it belongs to a general who says he brought 400 fighters out to the creeks under the amnesty. of the strongest. >> he was paid by the government to protect the pipelines. now he has struck a deal to provide security for the oil company. >> they will give me a major contract. by two or three years, you will see me in a big mansion like the ones you have been seeing. >> the nigerian government is buying peace, but the underlying grievances remains the right of poverty, lack of development, and pollution very good it will be hard to stop people leaving crime pays. from leavinge crime pays. were america'se, earliest new colonists cmpbell's -- earliest olonists cannibals? cuba has allowed foreign journalists to visit some prisons. this is ahead of the review of the government's human rights record. >> a glimpse inside one of the high-security prisons. we were allowed in for the first time in almost a decade to see what conditions the inmates have here. it was designed to make a good impression. only we knew we entered, wing wetes -- the only entered common prisoners first in tucson.

does anybody think that barack obama would be president today if the 1986 amnesty act had not become i don't believe barack obama would be president today if ronald reagan hadn't made the most colossal mistake in his career in signing the 1986 amnesty act. he let me down that day. >> another comment on history from the guy who thinks president obama is an illegal immigrant, himself, came here after being born in kenya, that's what he thinks. >>> next, when outrage goes awry. pennsylvania republican governor tom corbett was asked whether he had any latino staffers, himself. >> do you have staff members that are latino? >> no, we do not have any staff members. if you can find us one, please let me know. >> either one of you want to come to harrisburg? >> here's a great quote. if you can find me one, let us know. the fact is, the latino population is on the rise. it increased by 80% between 2000 and 2010. in fact, the spokesman later said corbett does, in fact, have one latino staffer. this comes a few weeks after corbett suggested one reason for pennsylvania's high unemployment rate is

since the amnesty, it has soared and now the government is getting far more revenue, so it can easily afford to pay all the former militants. but some people are questioning the wisdom of paying people who took up arms. they're wondering what message it sends out to the rest of the country. some of the men who lay down their arms are now living big, and driving through here, you cannot miss big homes like this. this one belongs to a former militant. and this one belongs who to a former military one belongs brought more than 400 fighters out of the creeks with him under the amnesty, he says. >> was he the strongest out of this group? >> he was. >> he was paid by the government to protect the pipelines that his militant brothers once destroyed. they supplied me with chemicals. in a big will see me mansion in a few years, like the ones you have been seeing. >> the nigerian government for now is buying the peace, but the underlying grievances remain such as poverty, lack of development, and pollution. until they are dealt with, if it will be hard to stop people leaving that crime pays. bb

does anybody think that barack obama would be president today if the 1986 amnesty act had not become law? i don't think president barack obama would be president today if ronald reagan hadn't made the most colossal mistake of his career in signing the 1986 amnesty act. he let me down that day. >> a guy who thinks barack obama is an illegal immigrant himself, came here after being born in ken kenya. that's what he thinks. when outreach goes awry at an event put on by a spanish news organization last week, pennsylvania republican governor tom corbin was asked if he had any latino staffers himself. >> do you have staff members that are latino? >> no, we do not. if you can find us one, please let me know. >> i'm sure that there are latinos -- >> you want to come to harrisburg? see? >> well, here is a great quote, if you can find us one, let me mo. pennsylvania's latino population is on the rise and increased by 83% between 2000 and 2010. his spokesman says corbett does have one latino staffer, this comes a few weeks after he suggested one reason for pennsylvania's high unemployment rate i

what are report does is look specifically at amnesty and the cost of amnesty. t, our report looks at it in phases. you have under current law, this is how much unlawful households cost the taxpayer. and in the interim phase, which is the time in which they will have legal status but would not qualify for things like social security and medicare, means tested welfare and so forth. then the full amnesty phase, which is where the cost really take off. a reason why this is is because we have a government that is very much in the business of redistributing wealth. a quick statistic. in 1935, near the end of franklin roosevelt's first term, the government spent about three percent of its outlays on transfer payments -- that is, taking from some americans and giving to other americans. now the total is two thirds. we have a government who is very much in the business of taking from some people and giving to other people. that is why we thought this type of analysis -- again, i think we are the only ones who have done it -- is important to look at in terms of unlawful i

it does not count the amnesty numbers -- the 11 million. it take those aside, and deals with the future flow and it would admit 1.2 million a year and it exempts those that are here illegally that will be given amnesty. there are other provisions in it. i hope that we can discuss these issues and we will discuss them in the weeks to come. the numbers to me look pretty clear, mr. chairman, that we are not going to have the jobs that are anywhere close to the number thatbs that the number -- this bill would bring in and that it would weaken the quality of life for millions of legal immigrants to america and those that are native born. >> thank you. toeral members have asked put their statements on the record to save time and without objection that will be done. is anybody else wish to speak? senator graham, and then the clerk will call the roll. >> ui, mr. chairman. again -- thank you, mr. chairman. again, i know we want to get a bill done, but neither did it's very much worth having. at the -- but these are discussions very much worth having

reagan was honest enough to call the amnesty act. once he signed that bill, then there was document fraud and people that came across the border, the magnet of amnesty drew more people in and that number now, the lowest number that i see of those who received amnesty in 1986, or from the 1986 amnesty act, is about 2.7 million people. a lot of times you see three million is the quote, it'll go up to 3 1/2. let's settle on three million people. if three million received amnesty under ronald reagan's amnesty act and on average each of them and this is data that can be chased down, bigger numbers that i'm about to quote are available on certain studies but on average, a low number for family members brought in because of those that received amnesty, is about a factor of five or a little bit more. let's hold it on the low end, three million received amnesty, they averaged bringing in five people, by the family reunification plans that are there. now that's 15 million people. . some have died, some have gone back to their own country. but t

does anybody think that barack obama would be president today if the 1986 amnesty act had not become i don't believe barack obama would be president today if ronald reagan hadn't made the most colossal mistake in his career in signing the 1986 amnesty act. he let me down that day. >> another comment on history from the guy who thinks president obama is an illegal immigrant, himself, came here after being born in kenya, that's what he thinks. >>> next, when outrage goes awry. pennsylvania republican governor tom corbett was asked whether he had any latino staffers, himself. >> do you have staff members that are latino? >> no, we do not have any staff members. if you can find us one, we will. >> either one of you want to come to harrisburg? >> here's a great quote. if you can find me one, let us know. in fact, the spokesman later said corbett does, in fact, have one latino staffer. this comes a few weeks after corbett suggested one reason for pennsylvania's high unemployment rate is that employers can't find job candidates who are able to pass a drug test. and this is the governor of t

i remember the new rules that emerged from the 19 6 amnesty act. president reagan was honest enough and direct enough with the american people that he called it amnesty. we understood that's what it was. we understood the purpose for it. and that was to get an agreement so that we could enforce the law and put away the immigration debate for all time by allowing the people that were illegally in the united states, a path to citizenship, a full residency status, and path to citizenship, and the trade off was that would be the last amnesty, the promise that there would never be another one was the 1986 amnesty act. there was something like 800,000 people originally that were to be the beneficiaries of this plan. it turned out to be not a million, three million people. there was a substantial amount of documents, there was a larger universe of people than anticipated. does anybody think today, mr. speaker, that this universe of people is not larger than that anticipated by the senate version of the immigration -- comprehensive immigration reform bill?

if you consider all the factors related to the amnesty, believe me, this is comprehensive, it will haveegative long-term impact on our gross domestic product. we just want congress for once to count the costs of a bill. >> and now for the latest from boston. robel phillipos will ask to be released from federal custody later today. his lawyers say he had nothing to do with the bombings, he was simply confused and scared when he was questioned by authorities. they conducted another search of tamerlan tsarnaev's apartment yesterday. they are arriving in boston to lay the older suspect to left. the family is having problems locating a cemetery willing to take his body. the suspect's uncle says, quote, no one wants to associate their name with such evil. >>> let us know why you're awake. shoot us an e-mail at waytooearly ooth msnbc.com. the knicks open the semifinals as the favorites, but last night they got out muscled in game one against the pacers. nba playoffs ahead. >>> later "saturday night live" returns with zach galfanakos. that and more when "way too early" continues. >>> passengers

it would mean the net cost of amnesty might be a couple trillion. he bottom line, what i recommend in the report is if you are interested in saving the u.s. taxpayer trillions of dollars, do not allow people to ay because i came here, i had child born in the united states, i didn't have access to become a u.s. citizen is i came here -- i then have access to become a u.s. citizen because i came here had a child and have a huge cash benefit through these parental visas. i can guarantee you that i have yet to meet a single member of the senate or congress who understands that that loophole was there. and if we are interested in protecting the u.s. taxpayers, we should not grant amnesty and we should also close that loophole. >> let's open it up to questions from the audience. right here in the front. >> hello, i am with cns news. you are talking about redistribution. i think that it is true that the countries that have the greatest amount of redistribution have some of the strictest immigration laws. .ake denmark, for example in denmark, they have reall

it does not count the amnesty numbers -- the 11 million. you take those aside, and it deals with the future flow and it would admit 1.2 million a year and it exempts those that are here illegally that will be given amnesty. there are other provisions in it. i hope that we can discuss these issues and we will discuss them in the weeks to come. the numbers to me look pretty clear, mr. chairman, that we are not going to have the jobs that are anywhere close to the number of jobs that the number -- that this bill would bring in and that it would weaken the quality of life for millions of immigrants to america and those that are native born. >> thank you. several members have asked to put their statements on the record to save time and without objection that will be done. is anybody else wish to speak? senator graham, and then the clerk will call the roll. >> ui, mr. chairman. again -- thank you, mr. chairman. again, i know we want to get a bill done, but neither did it's very much worth having. at the -- but these are discussions very much wort

we look specifically at amnesty and the -- and the cost of amnesty. and the report looks at it in phases. under current law, this is how much unlawful households cost the taxpayer and then you have in an interim phase which is a time when they will have legal status but not qualify for things like social security and medicare and means tested welfare, and then the full amnesty phase and that's when costs really take awful the reason this is important is because we have a government in the business of redistributing wealth. in 1935, near the end of franklin roosevelt's first term, the government spent about 3% of its outlays on transfer payment, that is, taking from some americans and giving to other americans. now that total is 2/3. so we have a government that's very much in the business of taking from some people and giving to other people. that's why we thought this type of analysis, again, i think we're the only one that's done it, was important to look at for unlawful immigrants. host: cato put out this statement, the heritage 2000 study is its us

if you consider all the factors related to the amnesty. and believe me, this is comprehensive. it will have a negative long-term impact on our gross domestic product. so, we just want congress, for once, to count the costs of a bill. they're notorious for underestimating the costs. and not understanding the consequences. >> how can you say an amnesty, after it takes 13 years? the citizen track is very costly. you have to jump through a lot of hoops. now, i agree. background checks, make them learn english. make sure that they embrace american values. but you know, to say it's an amnesty -- it's not an amnesty. it's a path to citizenship. >> right. >> and also, there's legal -- there's legal immigration provisions in this bill, legal, for thousands of engineers that want to say here, software engineers. >> it's no accident that the business community is lobbying like crazy for this bill. that the agriculture community is lobbying like crazy. >> the big ag companies and -- chamber of commerce is for it. afl-cio is for it. >> a quick break. i'm going to repeat the question. do you

taxpayer and what came of this was that they mean the illegal immigrants and they receive amnesty they would generate a lifetime fiscal deficit of six point three trillion dollars over their lifetime ken can we talk about the difference between dynamic scoring and static scoring and did this study even take into account you know factors considering that once one becomes illegal they start going to school they'll get better jobs they're going to pay taxes you can you address this yes and the answer is no they didn't take that stuff into account so it's not it's not really dynamic in that sense it's it is. it has a lot of interesting facts and figures in there but their basic approach is very static it does not look at what happens to the next generation what does happen with immigrants typically is the second or third generation is basically indistinguishable from the native population and all sorts of measures including education in so what they've done is they've taken the current. a assume that the current the first generation of immigrants remains in the in the same education status

i talked to people that were beneficiaries of the 1986 amnesty act. they all understood where the political leverage was in this. the people in the 1986 amnesty act said, it was good for me, good for my family, i think we ought to give toyota everybody. people in 1996 who had their citizenship accelerated, they knew it was implied who they were to vote for in the re-election in 1996. we've seen as african-americans have been moved into a monolithic voting block. part of that is, let's see, i'll just suggest this, mr. speaker, that the people on the other side of the aisle understand how to divide people down their lines of race, thnicity, national origin, the biggest victimology, convince people they're victim and convince them the man is oppressing them and the only way to get even is income redistribution so they push for higher tax rates and more wealth redistribution, which discouraging the entrepreneur and the worker and now there's a public discussion about whether it's smarter to work or collect welfare because the welfare dollars go up higher a

taxpayer and what came of this was that they mean the illegal immigrants and they receive amnesty they would generate a lifetime fiscal deficit of six point three trillion dollars over their lifetime can they can we talk about the difference between dynamic scoring and static scoring and did this study even take into account you know factors considering that once one becomes illegal they start going to school all get better jobs they're going to pay taxes you can you address this yes and the answer is no they didn't take that stuff into account so it's not it's not really dynamic in that sense it's it is. it has a lot of interesting facts and figures in there but their basic approach is very static does not look at what happens to the next generation what does happen with immigrants typically is the second or third generation is basically indistinguishable from the native population and all sorts of measures including education in so what they've done is they've taken the current. a assume that the current the first generation of immigrants remains in the in the same education status w

the money? >> i think you get amnesty for 12 million. >> what happened to the statue of liberty? >> she's still there. >> what happened to that mentality? >> this isn't a charity case. >> she's not talking about charity cases. >> i thought america was about immigrants coming to the country and living the american dream. >> you've had periods of vast immigration 1890 and 1920 and zero immigration for almost 40 years. you can americanize these folk, put them in school. >> this bill has a million new immigrants coming in per year. >> we will be revisiting this several times. the 30 trillion-dollaaltonight will talk on a comprehensive transatlantic trade with the european union. >> within two weeks it was announced in a joint statement that the european counsel and the european commission had adopted internal procedures necessary to launch the negotiation on a transatlantic trade and investment partnership. unquote. the prospect of an eu, us trade agreement was described by the president as a quote, unquote game changer. it was create the largest free trade stone in the world. he say

you don't have to do the amnesty to get the benefits of reform. >> one thing that always comes up inontracts political way, that republicans, whatever their legitimate concerns about costs and whether it's a pile-on, alienate latino voters and is that's criticism fair? >> those of us here at heritage, we are advocating for the immigrants who have come here lawfully. because they're going to pay a steep price for this amnesty. so, we want to protect the opportunities and the incomes of those who are now americans. so, i think if we can communicate that to latinos, hispanics, all americans, that's what they need to know. this amnesty bill is not necessary in order to improve lives for the american people. >> neil: what are you saying about those at least 11 million who are here illegally? what's your message to them? >> our message to them is we need to fix our immigration system. certainly anyone in our country will be treated with civility but our immigration system should be for those who are here legally and for american citizens. that is what we should be focused on now. >> neil:

he called it the amnesty act. he didn't call it the comprehensive reform act. he called it amnesty because that's what it was. i appreciate the definition of the gentleman from south carolina. i hadn't heard that definition before. all the rights embodied in the constitution. granting all of those rights to someone who is here illegally would be amnesty. i defined it this way, not contradictory definition, it's the one i have long used. to grant amnesty is to pardon immigration lawbreakers and reward them with the objective of their crime. it's a pardon and a reward. and i don't know why they came here necessarily. we don't know. they might have come for a job. many did. some came to trade in contraband. some came to live with their families and not to work. but the presence in the united states is unlawful, becomes flaul with amnesty and the path to the reason they came here is opened. they didn't all come to be citizens, and they didn't all come for a job. only 2.5% are working in america today, not 100%. that's a little better than five out of 12 that are act

so much, and they were promises for the next group that would be amnestied. this group of 11.3 million they're calculating will be bigger than they say, that always has been the case. it was roughly going to be a million in 1986. it became three million in 1986. this number will be larger, it's predicted to be 33 million by the time you add in legal and illegal and i think that number perhaps grose from there. the assimilation that's been an important part of network is a different scenario than we have had in the past. i've noticed that the people for open borders aren't really the embracers of assimilation. assimilation is what has made america great, the giant melting pot. i'm for that. i want to see people co-mingle and intermingle and embrace what i call cultural continuity, the american culture and civilization. they promise about learning englishering it's easy to follow through with the promise, let's pass the official english bill. they don't do that because they're not serious. it doesn't take into consideration the illegal drugs that come across the

. >> they have to admit that ronald reagan on the amnesty act brought about barack obama's election. this is obama's america. a lot of people voted for him and if you see any of those people today, do me a favor, punch them in the face. >> if you see anybody that voted for the president, punch them in the face, reagan signing an amnesty act in '86 led to the election of president obama? this is some way out stuff, clarence. >> republicans have lost the popular vote in five out of the last six elections after winning the popular vote in five of the last previous elections. we've seen how important ronald reagan was. they've been divided ever since. we're seeing it now between the moderates and the conservatives. the conservatives spurred on by talk radio and var kbroious oth factors out there in the twitter verse and the right wing of the party has become more alienated from the mainstream. chris christie would be a favorite if he could just get past the primaries and that's where, if he runs, he's going to run into some problems, problems like south carolina, for example, would get a

that at its core is the gang of eight bill. an immediate amnesty, promises of enforcement, and that's not good enough, particularly when we have decades, decades of the federal government, republicans and democrats, who have promised this before and have never -- have never delivered. the american people say we'll trust but we want to verify. trust but verify. we need to see this enforcement in action before we move on to anything else. in fact, to in some ways this gang of eight bill is worse in terms of that basic model than previous versions like 1986 because if you look at page 70 of the bill, it actually has a period of an enforcement holiday. so two and a half years of a pure enforcement holiday, so not only is this amnesty now and enforcement later, maybe never, applied to folks illegally in the country now, but they can keep coming. the message will be sent out and they can come the day after the bill passes, the week after the bill passes, a year after the bill passes, two years after the bill passes, and it's part of the same amnesty. the

. >> we've confronted the reality of de facto amnesty for the 11 million or more people who came here illegally by proposing a lengthy path to citizenship that doesn't place lawful immigrants at a disadvantage and it and is contingent on doing everything possible to make our border secure and discourage future waves of illegal immigration. >> suarez: on the other hand, many democrats argue that the border has never been safer. they point to nearly 20,000 u.s. border patrol agents patrolling the boundary, and to a network of cameras, sensors, drones and some 700 miles of fencing. president obama made that point on his visit to mexico earlier this month. >> i think it's important for everybody to remember that our shared border is more secure than it's been in years. illegal immigration attempts into the united states are near their lowest level in decades, and legal immigration continues to make both of our countries stronger and more prosperous and more competitive. >> suarez: indeed, some 1.6 million people were apprehended on the southwest border back in 2000, while in 2012, the num

if you pass the legislation, that amnesty is on track. he triggers don't work and we will have that occur no matter why. then, what about the enforcement? this legislation on both accounts, weaken existing metrics. the entry exhibit of words in the reform act in an athletic commission insisted that we passed that law. this bill does not attempt to do the land borders. it does not complete entry exhibit b. for system and gao said without land borders it won't work and they are correct. with regard to the border, the reason they cite improvements is because during the 2007 debate on the bill failed, we did put in more money than president bush and perhaps present about mr. had more border patrol agents are higher. more agents at the border. a senator cornyn said, they tell us as many as one in three gigabyte for everyone caught we got 300,000 last year. that means a million people cross the border. this is not fixed. with regard to the idea the defense is totally falls. american people need to understand this is how you get taken to the clea

the net cost of amnesty might be a couple trillion. at the bottom line i recommend in the report is if you are interested in saving the u.s. taxpayer trillions of dollars do not allow what were people to say because i came here i had a child born in the united states i then have access to become a u.s. citizen because i came here and have a child and get a huge cash benefit as a result of that. i can guarantee that i have yet to meet a single member of the senate or the congress who understands that it was there and if we are interested in protecting the u.s. taxpayer we shouldn't grant amnesty but regional so close that loophole. >> i want to open up to questions for the audience. do we have a microphone circulating? right here in the front. >> you were talking about redistribution and it's true the country that has the greatest amount of redistribution has the strictest immigration law. take denmark for example, in denmark the of legal immigration law and we aren't even talking about if you are in the country, but that is because in d

i think after boston i think the president is going to get some border security. i think amnesty is dead when you are going to give that 12 million people. included in them are folks like the tsarnaevs. i don't think he will get that. unfortunately for our country iraq seems to be coming apart, the syrian war is disintegrating, and iran situation is not hopeful. the country has problems. this president is facing basically what he must see as a stacked deck. i don't see what he gets between now and november of 2014. brother trippi and i were talking about that in the greenroom. >> the gun legislation, didn't happen. and with the president we have zero chance of the global warming agenda? do you agree with that. >> no. i don't agree with you on the gun control. >> what happened then? >> no, he didn't get anything, but it wasn't just democrats. republicans were going to filibuster. >> whoa, whoa. democrats aren't supporting him, joe. >> three or four red state democrats. when you need 60 votes in the senate to get it done because of the filibusters, you need everything plus four or

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how to make people americans rather than an guest workers or voters and living which we had in the amnesty bill that i don't think is currently talked-about or how to assimilate or make them part of america. i think to lynch from the record would have agreed with that >> was clinched the constitution a living document? >> no. [laughter] they do a very good job of explaining the constitution is the form that gives life to the declaration but coolidge did not think the declaration was the only document of the importance. he would have listed the bible or number of things that we would think of as classically educated. a number of documents that we think of as important but absolutely not. no way you could see to limit to the united constitution this is the greatest document given to the united states. he would feel you should not tinker with that. >> i would like if you could comment of coolidge view how politicians should conduct themselves with character with which they should conduct themselves and as a preamble i will give you a couple of quotes that i have for an introduction to a bookt

but at the same time, we don't want to grant you amnesty and everyone go home. needs to be aligned somehow. >> okay. now, you know we have this report from the heritage foundation last week. >> oh, yes. >> on immigration. i don't know how, but you somehow managed to buy a degree from harvard, yourself, because you clearly didn't learn it, you didn't earn it. that report has prompted the head of the republican party's latino outreach effort in florida -- there he is -- to leave the republican party and become a democrat. is that surprising to you? >> well, you know what, in his words, enough is enough for him. when he was trying to support a party that maybe represented those conservative values we were talking about, but when there is an ignorant comment that now ties it into racism and assuming that race is is an issue for i.q., it takes you over the top. there was a lot of buzz in social media and a lot of us were very tempted to send our harvard dip ploalomas to the heritage foundation for cross referencing. >> the co-author of the unscientific study had to gi

republicans in the base who got george bush to withdrawal harriet meyers and got them to withdraw the amnesty plans. we will attack when our side is doing something wrong. the democrats will not. oh, they will not. nor will the media. >> geraldo: okay. we will have ann a chance to give final thoughts on this and i will give you my he takeaway on the significance of the upcoming hearings on benghazi gate including the two whistle blowers, after this. ♪ it was the best day whoo! yes! ♪ it was the best day ♪ ♪ it was the best day yeah! ♪ it was the best day ♪ecause of yo [sigh] [echoing] we make a great pair. huh? progressive and the great outdoors -- we make a great pair. right, totally, uh... that's what i was thinking. covering the things that make the outdoors great. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >>> the united states condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. we are working with the government of libya to secure diplomats and i also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world and make no mistake. we will

they think the amnesty is going to be probably passed. >> bill: pars of texas we don't have the fence lot of people there. >> right. >> bill: but say that the bill gets streamlined down and it's it, you know, a fairly exact thing as marco rubio wants, would you support it? >> well, that's an ambitious goal and that would be great but that's not what's happenings today for instance, bill. >> union row is staking whole political career on, this you have to assume is he going to be right on it. >> he is i like marco rubio. is he a good guy but i think he is incredibly naive in this regard. you don't go into a room with chuck schumer and bic durben and bob menendez and come out the end of it and they basically write the bill it's going to be good for republicans and good for enforcement and ultimately it's going to mean a perfect patch of all these immigration problems. let me just tell you two things quickly, bill. today, jeff sessions and chuck grassley both offered very common sense amendments to this bill. sessions wants a huge increase in the number of boots on the ground at the bord

it would mean the net cost of amnesty might be a couple trillion. the bottom line, what i recommend in the report is if you are interested in saving the u.s. taxpayer trillions of dollars, do not allow people to say because i came here, i had a child born in the united states, i didn't have access to become a u.s. citizen is i came here -- i then have access to become a u.s. citizen because i came here had a child and have a huge cash benefit through these parental visas. i can guarantee you that i have yet to meet a single member of the senate or congress who understands that that loophole was there. and if we are interested in protecting the u.s. taxpayers, we should not grant amnesty and we should also close that loophole. >> let's open it up to questions from the audience. right here in the front. >> hello, i am with cns news. you are talking about redistribution. i think that it is true that the countries that have the greatest amount of redistribution have some of the strictest immigration laws. take denmark, for example. in denmark, they have

the military this are supposed to be guided by law. they have to abide by some kind of loss. -- laws. hey act in off ocean -- >> amnesty international says the military is holding many young men. crisis gives them a mandate to hold the suspects indefinitely. including those who have confessed to being a part of the group. they will be held until investigations are carried out, or they appear in court. these group members do not want to wait. they are asking amnesty from the government now. >> the national rifle association has gathered in houston, texas for the second day of its annual convention. u.s. gun lobby group has laid out the challenges that lie ahead were members of the organization fights against barack obama's gun-control proposals. a colombian government continues peaceate a piece -- deal with a rebel group. -- andera sat down with send is this report. >> they have been fighting the colombian state for 60 years. for six months, they have been negotiating with the colombian government out of the conflict. on friday, the lead negotiator announced that he talks are not moving fast enough. have the obligation

the 1986 immigration law gave them amnesty, started this fight back then. never quite resolved them. i think that's what this new immigration bill is trying to do. >> looking at the point, on the mid 50s when the brassero started, it allowed agricultural workers to come and if back. illegal immigration plunged. >> we know how to fix illegal immigration. this is a supply and democrat issue. -- demand issue. if you want fewer people e people coming in illegally, give them more legal ways to come. it's not just a law and order issue. i think some americans are anxious about aimmunizations, for instance. we have -- assimilation for instance, we have more bilingualism. >> don't they have point? >>h absolutely have a point, paul. but go after the multi-cultu multi-culturalis multi-culturalists. leave the immigrants alone. people who come here, they're not the ones pushing pling wall education. it's these others -- particularly on the left, doing it in their name. the people pushing for ethnic gerrymandering, for bilingual ballots and so forth. but don't blame the

republicans in the base who got george bush to withdrawal harriet meyers and got them to withdraw the amnestyill attack when our side is doing something wrong. the democrats will not. oh, they will not. nor will the media. >> geraldo: okay. we will have ann a chance to give final thoughts on this and i will give you my he takeaway on the significance of the upcoming hearings on benghazi gate including the two whistle blowers, after this. you hurt my feelings, todd. i did? when visa signature asked everybody what upgraded experiences really mattered... you suggested luxury car service instd of "strength training with patrick willis." come on todd! flap them chicken wings. [ grunts ] well, i travel a lot and umm... [ male announcer ] at visa signature, every upgradedxperience comes from listening to our cardholders. visa signature. your idea of what a card should be. hey everybody, hi mom... streaming live with a tour of my new place... knowing you can still reach out. ... and now you've seen it. that's powerful. verizon. get mom a lucid 2 by lg for free. >>> the united states condemns in the s