the ap story, the benghazi story, the irs story.e not only scandals, but they are substantive news stories. to use the word scandal, i think, is misleading. these are important issues about whether the administration is, in fact, following the law. whether they're treating americans properly. >> jennifer rubin, david shuster, thanks very much. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] the only patch for the treatment of mild to moderate alzheimer's disease is exelon patch. now with more treatment options, exelon patch may improve overall function and cognition. your loved one can get a free 30-day trial. and you can have access to nurses. it does not change how the disease progresses. hospitalization, and rarely death, have been reported from wearing more than one patch at a time. the most common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, fall, loss of appetite or weight, application site redness, and urinary tract infection. the likelihood and severity of these side effects may increase as the dose increases or if patients weigh

the ap is saying their sources are frozen. >> i'm sure one of the things. >> we rely on the ap to give us news. >> we rely on the ap to give us news but there seems was an absolutely legitimate pursuit on the part of the government and i support the president's comments. >> no organization is going to exist solely on a leaker from the administration. >> on monday may 13th, doj, broke the sore he story about subpoenaing ap's phone records from the last year. the chilling effect hits now in the aftermath of the irs story. >>> we'll be right back with prescriptions. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. >>> p

. >> the ap courses are narrow. they often will cause teachers to teach toward the test. >> it's the research into the belief ap students do better than those who don't take ap course that is stirred up controversy. she says the jury is still out. a claim that has the folks who administer the ap balking. >> she makes itd provocative. there's no relationship between that and college success. that's what we object to and can't figure out why she said that. the study does not say that. examination scores are among the best predictors. >> one thing both sides agree on is the need for moderation. >> you have to look at the whole schedule next year. everything else you are doing and taking. get the sleep you need. adolescences need nine hours of sleep. not many get that. >> it's a message they are incorporating in the classroom. >> help them handle this piece of ap test prep. we need to relax about it, do our best but not get overly stressed. >> a student who once struggled, things are looking up. >> it's hard in the begin

it was at the lab in quantico. an ap with that story and when it did people started freaking out in the administration. how did they get this, what did they know. there was a briefing given by brennan. >> john brennan, now head of the cia. >> he was. someone who knows about yemen, counterterrorism. he went out to try to also calm some public opinion. he said, look, yes, there was this plot but the bomb has always been in our possession. it was always under our control was the specific word, which means that there was never a threat that this bomb that was being made in yemen was going to blow up an aircraft. that the u.s. or u.s. friends -- because what was under our control, it wasn't under our control. it was under the uk's control but since we're all friends in this, the u.s. and uk, it was under friendly control. >> so him saying -- i think inside control. inside control, our control, putting that together with the detail we've got the bomb in our possession. there's not a big leap to think there's got to be a mole.

i don't know if the ap went to the cia or the cia went to the ap, it's not material. aid that she this is dangerous. please don't put this information out. the ap as news organizations do, held off on this story. right? the cia never asked them to kill the story. that's very important to know. for five days the ap sat on the story, they took care of their asset. the cia said that it's safe to run the story. a few hours later it, they said we need an extra day because we want to put out a press release. now, what happens is, other news organizations is going to be less trusting of the government. >> but, ron is right. it extends worldwide. we are the standard bearer of freedom of the press. and then you have these nations suppressing information, they'll look to the united states saying, oh, well, president obama is doing that to their press we can do it, too. ron is absolutely right. if you can start saying, look, we're going too take your logs out, it's all about relationship and trust. and if those sources say, hey, i'm not going to do this because in fear of possibl

the ap records secretly obtained by the justice department. benghazi case, and the irs targeting conservatives and other groups, all of the latest news out of the white house. we'll bring it to you live. jenna: well it is a stunning revelation today from oscar-winning actress angelina jolie. in a "new york times" op-ed she writes see had ma preventative double mastectomy earlier this year after genetic testing she was at a very, very high-risk for developing breast cancer. dr. leigh vinocur is here to talk more about this. doctor, tell us about this option. who is a good candidate for this type of surgery? >> so you look at hereditary breast cancers which are really own by about five or 10% of all breast cancers caused by her red at this or in your family and, there are many different genes but two particular genes, brca 1 and brca-2 cause the preponderance of these hereditary breast canners and where the general population might have 12% risk over their lifetime of getting breast cancer people with these two gene mutations, because the genes

so, how is the ap going to win this fight? joining us now is david schultz, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you, rachel. >> i'm sure that long exposition of the facts and my take on them does not exactly comport with yours, but in term of the ap's role in this, i should ask you -- >> i think you got it just right. >> it is a constant balancing act in the united states. t prel security or anything the government doesn't want disclosed. is it the ap's position that the justice department is within its rights to be investigating these leaks? it's just that they are doing it in a way that is too rushed. >> sure. i think the key, there is an inherent conflict between the government's ability to keep secrets and the ability of people to oversee their government, that you have to have access to government information. you need confidential sources to give you that information or the only things you're going to know about the government is what they're going to tell you. the real problem here is is that in the mess after

you're talking about the ap as we should know. mes," where has the coverage been in these last few years? when you have seen sfieing on american muslim communities, on dissidents. patriot act passed through without much thought. journalists allowed to be eves dropped on this isn't an apology for the obama government. so, there's a transpartisan problem. >> i'm glad you asked that question. what are the investigations into muslim communities? the associated press, investigation into profiling here in the city of muslim community, that same team, that same team was that the administration came to and said, please don't print this. oversaw two wars for the associated press. this isn't their first rodeo. >> that's right. >> the ap is never compliant. the ap is responsible. >> to hold -- >> the administration is denying this whole investigation is about that story, about al qaeda leak story. >> it's broader that. george, jeff raises, i think you have a third of the committee investigating the administration, it seems the rest of the pre

in terms of the press, they are upset about the ap. they have been obsequious but all of a sudden they are very upset. it is their own prerogative and privacy. i think he asked to make his peace with the press on that because they are the ones mediates between him and the public. >> when nixon got in trouble on watergate, which was at the a burglary, he was hurt because he did not have friends. he did not spend a lot of time stroking senators and playing golf. he really paid for it. i am not saying this is on that scale. i dislike these analogies to watergate but there is a point that obama needs to have better friends on the hill. >> where have you heard that before? >> from every democrat in town from day one. tot to add to the point, richard nixon, it was said that he once said politics would be great if it were not for the gd people. he loved the strategizing. quite honestly, the personal relationships are not there. can see jeanne shaheen, new hampshire, mark udall, kay hagan, all getting daylight between themselves and the preside

this went by the guidelines and the ap wrote a response, bro, not true. check out what you told us about. i want you to talk me through the law at issue here starting with just this basic question. before we get to the -- subpoenaed phone records from the phone company, can the government just do that when they want to see the phone records of anyone? >> well, no. i mean, they have to have probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed and under the regulations, which go back to the watergate days and were passed in light of watergate, it's important, it's necessary to negotiate with the reporter, to pursue less drastic alternatives than actually a subpoena. the only time that a subpoena can be issued to subpoena the phone records of a journalist is when the attorney general thinks it might pose a substantial threat to the investigation to negotiate and let the reporter know they're investigating, but the attorney general has to sign off on this. evidently, the attorney general recused himself, so now, the deputy attorney general has signed off

he probably can't say much more about the specific case of the ap. what happened here, he said he was one of the people who was read into this highly classified program to foil al qaeda plot to bomb an airplane, because he knew about it, he said he was questioned by the fbi, and for that reason, he said he took himself off or -- to use the legal term, recused himself, putting the deputy in charge of supervising this. the investigation is being run by the u.s. attorney here in the district, but perhaps that's the area where members can talk about the policy of doing this. this is hardly the first time that the federal government has ever gotten reporters' telephone records. what seems unusual is the comprehensiveness, the main off number for three a.p. offices here in washington, new york and hartford. that i think is a somewhat surprising aspect to this. >> pete, thank you. i have to point out we're looking at the chairman of the committee, a republican from virginia. he is talking about the boston bombings. this hearing ostensibly brought to discuss

's phoneng at the ap records. >> this was a serious week. a very serious leak. it put the american people at risk. >> there is the attorney repo to suggestions the department of justice was out of line going after the ap phone records without prior notice. evan, the ap calls this an unprecedented intrusion. you wrote a book about the cia. what is your take? >> it is an intrusion. ofre are millions investigations but as they go along, the government is careful to narrow them because they don't want to have massive investigations they get the press mad at them. for some reason that did not happen. it is typical prosecutors want these things but usually somebody at a higher level says wait a second, let's tone it down. that did not happen. i do not know why but it is puzzling. i will say it seems like a bad week -- leak. there is evidence it was harmful. >> you are in journalism but you have been part of the security apparatus. conducted investigations. i remember interviewing an official suspected of leaking. there was nothing else we could do. the idea of going af

i've talked to multiple people at the ap and their lawyer. they were not notified about this as the law requires. had they been and had the obama administration been deft, they might have worked this out. they violated the provision requiring the notice. >> it's also pretty clear that the white house, well -- the ap was going to blow the cover on this story that the white house was getting ready to announce and that may be the source of all this. >> that's exactly right. to follow up on what jim was saying, there was an agreement between the white house and ap to hold this story action the story being the foiling of an al-qaeda plot for five days and then monday came and they had another quick meeting with administration officials and the ap said it was going to go ahead and publish anyway, even though the administration was going to announce this plot the next day. so the administration goes ahead, the c.i.a. goes ahead and says, well, they violated security here and we're going to investigate it using that as a pretext when they were going t

you can survive the ap. when i have a criminal defendant who is originally charged with robbery he is clearly taking the let's wait and see. it is a huge problem. this could be the end of eric holder. it is that big of a deal. it could be the time where the president called him and it says you have done a great job for me. thanks. melissa: through it all the market actually rose. let's pivot back to the stock market. we have breaking news on dell. the dow is approaching a 100 point gain right now. nicole petallides has been on the floor of the new york stock exchange. also i imagine listening to press secretary jay carney. i do know, nicole you want to bring the latest on dell because it is moving markets. >> we're finding out from dow jones what numbers dell is expected to report, we're hearing first about earnings per share of 20 cents, versus the 35 cent analyst estimate. that looks like is it will be below. operating income of 600 million. back to you. lori: nicole, thanks so much for that. again the dow

. >> if you question on the subpoenas of the aps own record. did you sign off on this subpoena for two months of recrods? records? to whom did you delegate authority for the information? the ap call this a violation of the department own guidelines and asked you to return the records and destroy all copies. would you consider doing so? in june 2012d

the answer is no. >> the ap says their sources are frozen. we rely on them to give us news. >> this is a legitimate pursuit on the part of the government and i support the president's commons on those. >> they have -- comments on those. >> at 6:14 p.m. they broke the internal revenue service story. and they broke a story about ap's phone records from the last year. this is the aftermath of the internal revenue service story. issue three, benghazi document dump. >> the white house has released 10 pages -- 100 pages on the attacks on benghazi libya and the atck on ber 11th resulted in the deaths of four americans. christopher stevens was among those killed. some members of congress has accused the white house for intentionally changing how it was covered by blaming them about an anti-muslim video rather than an intentional attack. they revealed the talking point from the cia which was produced at 2:27 p.m. three days after the attack. it says the attack may have been spontaneously inspired by the u.s. embassy in cairo and evolved into a direct a

that indicates that the ap was amenable to working with you on this matter. if that is the case, why was it necessary to subpoena the telephone records? did you seek the ap's assistance in the first place, and if not, why not? >> again, mr. chairman, i don't know what happened. there about with the interaction between the ap and the justice department. i was recused from the case. >> meanwhile today, the president honored law enforcement killed in the line of duty on capitol hill today. but last night, the president responded to the internal report on another scandal that being the irs, targeting conservative groups. the president said in part the report's findings or intolerable and inexcusable. i've directed secretary lew to hold those responsible accountable and each of the inspect general's recommendations are implemented quickly so that conduct never happens again. joining us is kelly o'donnell. let's talk ago attorney general holder. there would be some anticipation that there would be this grilling. we know that a lot of high-level rhetoric coming in re

what did jay carney say about the president's response to this ap controversy? >> well, we understand the president could not have alerted the press because he didn't know about it. jay carney said it is entirely appropriate, that criminal investigations be independent of any white house. he says the president, attorney general holder talk about policy, but not investigations, which is why the president says he found out about the ap phone records subpoenas from news reports. >> in a case like this when according again to the attorney general that this is an investigation that has to do with an egregious leak of classified information, it would be doubly inappropriate for other components of the administration to cross that line and to communicate with the justice department about that ongoing investigation. >> mr. obama has been accused of a failure of leadership for finding out from news reports about a number of issues, not just the ap phone subpoenas, but the irs scandal and even the fast and furious gun walking. shep. >> shep: the president has not said whet

i know you don't think this is a very big situation with the ap. understanding of it than the irs thing. >> i am not going to go to the ap knowing to have a history of them snooping on their home phones, work phones. neil: you want to find out who is, mice and that security within the government. i know i am sounding out of sync, but there are extenuating circumstances. not on this. using it to sort of embarrass you and call you out, that is never good. >> on friday we also had the white house have a secret meeting taking a handful of reporters to come talk about benghazi. some are saying why wasn't i invited? there are all these scandals adding up, benghazi, the irs and they cannot ignore it anymore. neil: how long do you think that will last? >> it will continue to get worse. more and more leaks. neil: we shall see. in the meantime, forget about the irs snooping on you. did you hear about the iimigration belt that is doing all of that and on steroids? ♪ neil: wait until you hear about your privacy and to hear critics and tell us that is not the h

let's start with the ap deal. e not sure if it's such a big deal. >> miss laura on fox & friends called it a scandal. it's know the a scandal yes. holder has a press conference coming up in a couple of hours. what usually happens in these kinds of things, is a via operation or covert operation, all right and they get wind of it. the justice department goes in and tries to find out who the leak is. and they've done this since george washington, it happens all the time. and congress and the supreme court have allowed them to do it, so let's just wait and see what this is. martha: clearly there is something that needs to be investigated, because there is other ways to go after a journalist and say we think there is a national security interest in understanding how you knew about this bomb attack that was thwarted, right. >> remember wikileaks, bradley manning the sergeant, they want to find out if there is a mole, they being the justice department inside the cia or the nsa or any of these intelligence outfits and that

going to the ap scandal. realized lieutenant a lot of this came together in the fact that the obama administration has declared war on the press. you have the ap, basically all their phone records were taken. and then you go over to see what happens to the journalist james rosen. we now know that the authorities were following him around, tracking his movements, in and out of buildings, looking at his phones. yes, all i want to say just one quick point, i think the only recurs to this kind of behavior by the government is to say back to the government we declare war on you and from this point forward we should no longer as a whole cooperate in any manner with the government in terms of when we're doing national security stories. we should withdrawal all of our cooperation and public everybody we know because it is a free press, it's not a free except when the government tells you to do it press. we've been way too easy going with these guys. we've let them tell us what to print, what not to print. i say be don

noted the phone records were subpoenaed because the justice department told the ap. the president find any way that may fit in the balance you say? >> it would be inappropriate to comment on the specific investigation and the methods that have been reported. i can tell you that it is important to protect our national security, classified information. it is also in the president's view essential to allow journalists to be able to pursue in an unfettered way pursue investigative journalism. >> you keep talking about then senator obama as a fact he killed the legislation in october 2009 that made it so that the protections that he supported having judicial review. there was an opportunity for this still to be passed. chuck schumer was supportive of it. >> i think first of all, you are talking about separate pieces of legislation and legislative history that bears more looking into. the president has the same position as he was at senator. i cannot appropriately apply his support for that measure -- >> we wouldn't be having the conversation today. he supported a judicial

the ap is still fuming this morning that government seized phone records last year. at issue the 2012 ap report revealing the cia's role in thwarting a terror plot in yemen. on tuesday eric holder defended the actions calling that article quota serious leak. >> this is among if not the most serious it is within the top two or three, most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk and that's not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who is responsible for that i think required very aggressive action. >> holder recused himself from the matter because of a conflict of interest. the white house maintains it has no prior knowledge of the ap investigation. >>> for the second time in as many weeks a military member in charge of protecting victims of sexual assault is facing allegations of committing that crime himself. the pentagon says the coordinator of fort hood sexual assault prevention program is accused of forcing at least one subordinate soldier into prostitution and for sexual assaulting two others. he's bee

so, david, it's a lot, especially when you begin with benghazi, move on into the iris and now the ap/fbi. i looked up in the cable coverage this afternoon, was asking is this the curse of a second term? >> well, there's some of that and this is a trifecta that really goes to the president's trust that goes to the question of incompetence within the administration. the irs issue stands out to advisers i have talked to in the white house, to outside allies to the president. they say this is so egregious something has to be done. there's frustration, i can tell you, within the administration that more was not done within the treasury department to deal with this a little bit more quickly and this outrage that is being directed toward the white house would like to be reciprocated but some advisers tell me, look, there are limits to what the president can do right away to start firing people, for one. the irs is insulated in a way. why? to protect against the kind of political interference that they say was, in fact, running amok within the agency. so there's going to be more calls from th

the ap knows its phone records were subpoenaed because the justice department told the ap. the president -- i find any way that that might fit in the balance? >> again, it would be inappropriate to comment on the specific investigation and the methods that have been reported. i can tell you that it is important to protect our national security classified information. it is also in the president's view essential to allow journalists to be able to pursue in an unfettered way, investigative journalism. >> jay, you keep talking about the then-senator obama supported a certain piece of legislation, that is a fact that as president he killed that piece of legislation in october of 2009 made it so the protections he supported, having judicial review on this -- >> the president -- >> then there was an opportunity for this bill to be passed. chuck schumer was supportive of it. and he said it was the white house that killed it. >> i think, first of all, we're talking about separate pieces of legislation and a legislative history that bears a little more looking into. the president's p

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i think the press, i think is agitated especially over the ap story. on is what does he have that would satisfy them? when you hear all of the analogies to nixon, in terms of the irs investigation. when you hear the level of acrimony coming from the press all of a sudden, and, you know, you can't help but remember that so many people have viewed the press as too kind to president obama, but when you hear it at that level i don't know that there is anybody who could be the white house spokesman who would be anything at this point but a target. jon: is it the ap story that really tipped this thing over the edge? the benghazi story, fox news was reporting on it for a longtime, not getting a lot of our brethren in the media to follow, then all of a sudden when the ap gets targeted apparently by the justice department, that's when all hell broke loose. >> it's when your cow gets skwerered. >> there are real questions about the extent of the threat being face eld. the one point i would make is that the just disdepartment had made clear to the ap that their so

we'll get the ap's side from their top executive, gary pruitt. plus analysis from dan balz of the "washington post," lois romano of politico, david sanger of the "new york times," and our own john dickerson. >> commissioner miller, why didn't you tell the truth when you were asked directly by cngs? >> schieffer: it's the question of the week and we'll try to get answers on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: and good morning again. dan pfeiffer is a senior adviser to president obama. we welcome you, sir, to the broadcast. so the white house is involved in all of these controversies all of a sudden. but yesterday, the white house leaks the story to the "new york times" that says the white house chief of staff, dennis mcdonough, has told his staff not to spend any more than 10% of their time on these issues. does that mean you don't take any of this seriously? >> oh, no, absolutely not. there are some very serious issues here, particular let's i.r.s. where wh

in tonight's class action, studying up on the ap. >>> so let's go to the first flight. >> they're brushing up on bacteria in ap biology in san francisco, prepping for the all-important exam. advanced placement classes like this one are college level courses so they're hard. so hard, in fact, that they have ten commandments to keep it all in check. >> thou shall not cram, thou shall get sleep and not panic and try your best. >> reporter: some students take it to heart. >> i don't feel very stressed out about it. >> i still managed to get eight hours, do track, get all of my stuff done for my ap's. >> but for others, it is a struggle. >> i had no sleep, i took a lot of my time, sacrificed a lot of social life. >> there is a proliferation of the classes. >> she is a co-founder of the nonprofit, challenge success, which recently examined the common assumptions about the ap. >> it is a real fallacy staying take every ap test. >> they say the courses may not always live up to the reputation as being a gold standard. >> the ap courses are often really narrow. they often will cause teachers to sor

the irs really riled up getting them alert. th apsituation has rated over 100 employees telephone records, in the south you say sometimes you just kicked the wrong dog and what they did, they kicked the wrong dog because you go out and mess with the press and start impeding their ability to do their job as the watchdog, now you have a whole different environment i don't have the white house has ever faced a hostilepress, and they face one now. neil: to your point, don't think we've ever heard so many tough questions. normally the one f news guy. how bad do you think this really gets? one thing the market has been doing their r own thing, they ae convinced this really doesn't get to be watergate type crisis, but it does prevent the president from doing a lot of the things he likes to do and i know that sounds like a perverse logic, but that is my investment world and that is what my investment friends tell me. >> i think you are spot on. business is afraid of what obama can do, what he has done. obama is becoming increasingly unable t

and then the just department admitted the ap reporters targeted. john mccain calling for a special committee to look into benghazi on this show. others demanding reporters. reporters up in arms and a who is press secretary up against the wall. it's not how many of these scandals keep popping up but how fast they keep popping up. so here's what could be another summer bummer for an embattled white house all over again. what are we to make of this? >> well, neil, all coming together all at once for an administration that, you're right, has had a bit of a ride for a while that the press was seen as being fairly lenient with it, we'll say. but now it is clearly engaged across the board on a number of fronts, and the irs scandal is coming to a head. you can see democrats and republicans coming out with statements left and right that disthis will really be something that both sides of capitol hill will look at intensely, with hearing after hearing you have the ap situation, attorney general defending actions, although he recused himself in the actual acti

one of the scandal that would be ap, the irs story it could be heading there. on "face the nation" sunday, president gary pruitt attacked the department of justice for its sweeping subpoena of phone records used by hundreds of ap reporters. >> so sweeping so secretively so abusively and harassingly and overbroad that it it's an uninstitutional act. >> john: the justice department said it obtained the records to stop a national security leak. on sunday pruitt said the doj's actions were already damaging the news agency's journalisms and the public's right to know. >> officials who would normally talk to us and people we talk to in the normal course of news gathering are already say to go us they're reluctant. it's not hypothetical. we're seeing impact already. >> john: now the justice department also under fire for using search waters warrants to investigate james rosen who allegedly obtained classified information from a state department contractor on north korea's nuclear intentions. they not only got their phone records but read e-mails and label him a cocons

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, the doj going after the ap. ing points up on the screens. if you go on tv this is what you should say. what was interesting to me, there was a good point. this caused a lot of media outrage how can the left be ignoring civil liberty concerns. but the point was made nobody wanted the talking points. did you actually -- i didn't see anybody or hear anybody on the left on the air this week saying any of this stuff. it was interesting to watch that. >> the left is disorganized. i've never known the left to be that organized. also there's this ambivalence among the media about the idea if you're reporting something that really could outsource, apparently there were cia agents who had to move their families as a result of this coming out. there really is a true danger of exposing information that could get somebody killed. let's keep it real. i think a lot of media is ambivalent about that. that's why you have organizations including the associated press go to the administration, warn them they are doing the story and

lori: back to the specifics with the ap situation. why didn't the attorney general or those in the department go through the proper meek nations? we had app interesting conversation with judith miller who went through something similar. why do they think that? just go in and take the phone logs? >> well, some of those republicans in that committee room this afternoon say because they comment to intime at a time not -- intimidate not just the associated press, but the media, such extraordinary irony here, and, of course, there's the attorney general, in that we got a president who promised open, transparency, higher ethical conduct, and he's been ham fisted in the dealings with a press that does everything it can to kiss his feet as he walking before them. it's amazing to witness. lori: lou, a pleasure. thank you for the thoughts and wisdom. >> my pleasure. lori: the president is calling the latest actions taken by the irs intolerable and unexcusable following the agency targeting conservative groups. rich edson is live from the white h

will the ap get more traction, is there more there, there as the president would say. >> the ap story hits home with reporters, and jay carney, of course is a former newsmagazine reporter. everybody is afraid of the chilling affect of having the government engage in this intrusive behavior. it seems to me withholder having stepped aside and they apparently fingered the deputy who gave this order and he'll be on the hot seat. i think holder is a short termer any way. i don't think he'll stay the full term. the president is a constitutional lawyer. he was getting questions about how does the constitutional lawyer feel about the sentencing at the administration. one reporter asked why doesn't the president call up he can holder and ask him what is going on? well there is that wall between the fbi and the white house which we have thankfully result of the abuses of the knicksin' administration. if the president called up eric holder and asked what the hell was going on, the republicans may truly have an impeachable offense. watching all of these scandals erupt, and he's waiting for the i.

lot of questions today, and in particular, on the ap story, why the department secretly collected twonvestigation why they leaked information to the ap for a story in may last year about a failed terrorist plot. the ap says there is absolutely no justification for the broad subpoena of the telephone lines. they want to know why the justice department felt it kneeledded to do this. >> we have a lot more to learn about this so we shouldn't draw cop collusions hastily, but we should ask questions about why that fishing expedition was so broad and why there was not a more targetedded approach to finding out what they needed to find out. >> with some democrats concerned about the ap invest gages, holder can expect a bipartisan grilling today. >> good television if nothing else, and interesting to hear what he has to say when he defends himself. thank you very much. again, attorney general eric holder is going to be testifying today before the house judiciary committee happening in 27 minutes from now. we'll bring it to you live on fox business. you do not want to miss that testimony. >> ho

the ap story is needed the narrative that the president has been trying to sell.ve defeated al qaeda. al qaeda is on its way out. this whole associated press story that they are now trying to get to the bottom of, the doj is, is just like benghazi. this subpoena is way overbroad and it is illegal. dennis: dylan, one last question here. the president did not find out about any of this until friday. the sr. people of the irs knew about this a year ago. jeanette they have known about this long ago. >> i used to have the privilege of being in that spot at the white house. i think it is very odd that the president or people close to the president did not know about this. i think that this further erode the confidence that people have in our government. especially when you think about the fact that the government is about to implement this new entitlement in terms of obamacare. in terms of confidence in the government's ability to get things right and to orchestrate things, this has to be a very chilling -- dennis: it is taking ablow. dennis: jay carney addresses all of

who's going to take responsib responsibility. >> so, when we talk about again, this is concerning the ap with eric holder, then there's the irs issue and republicans are certainly taking the opportunity to talk about this and pounce on what are the details in this, at least as they've emerged so far. this could be truly election gold for mitch mcconnell, who's been very forceful on this. i want to play for everybody what he had to say about this from the senate floor. >> the administration needs to make witnesses available to testify on this. and on any other incident of targeting the administration's id logical opponents. today, other senate republicans are joining me in this call. more than 40 members have signed a letter demanding as much of the president. >> so, we have congressman jason chafe its using the word impeachment. charles krauthammer has come out on fox news saying he doesn't want to see republicans overplaying their hand on this one and they might need to dial it back. do you think there is the perception being that they may overplay their hand on this? let the facts emer