and, frankly, wish that the appropriation process went on and read or that we would pass the appropriateappropriations for all of the government. i'm happy that the house has passed military construction and va bill in a bipartisan fashion and hope that the senate acts on that. and, frankly, i think that the entire government should be funding in that usual fashion, that this policy of containing resolution is just a bad policy. but nevertheless, then, i understand that we have to get something done. i have a couple of questions about the communications between va and the committee here. as i understand it, correct me if i'm wrong, apparently the department issued a notice in late september that 95% of the employees were either fully funded or exempted from furloughs, is that correct? >> i would ask for the opportunity to go and retrieve whatever this announcement you're referring to, but i would say that if you look at va as a whole, 90% of us are in the a. j. and they are fully fund. so as a one october hospitals are seeing patients, commend today's outpatient clinics are operating. i

. >> senders earlier after the passage of the continuing appropriations act. now the hasn't turned. the clerk: pursuant to the permission granted in the u.s. house of representatives, the clerk received the following message from the secretary of the senate on october 16, 2013 at 8:59 p.m. that the senate passed with amendments h.r. 2775, with best wishes, i am signed sincerely karen l. haas. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from from texas seek recognition? mr. sessions: the committee of 3880. o file a report on the speaker pro tempore: the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. . mr. sessions: i ask unanimous consent that it be in order at any time to take from the speaker's table h.r. 2775 with the senate amendments thereto and consider in the house without intervention of any point of order a single motion by the chair on the committee of appropriations or his designee that the house concur in the senate amendments that the senate amendments and the motion be considered as read. that the motion be debatable for one hour equally divided an

it would allow us more time to get the appropriations done. the president on september 30 indicated some ptsd counseling would be affected by the shutdown. is that true? >> i would say we are open for business at va and i believe as i've said, we have ties to other departments. e i.h.s. and h.h.s., the indian health service, we have veterans being served there. if those operations are not fund redirect examination not being seen for any variety of requirements, ptsd being one. lass can nate tives who are terans that we provide services to through i.h.s. or the con sorgs there are being seen. that's why i say we can focus on va as long as we understand there is a broader -- >> i understand the cooperation with other departments is going to be hindered by this situation. there are no medical centers being shut down though, right? >> there is one that is affected and that is north chicago lolve healthcare center. it's a joint initiative between .he united states navy and va it operating off a joint account in which we each contribute dollars. so t

it has been the goal of the appropriations committee to provide for the timely continued pay for our federal workforce through regular appropriations bills enact the before the end of the fiscal year and i hope we never have to come to this point again. i think i believe that most parties can agree that this bill is a step that must be taken just as we united this weekend to authorize retroactive pay for the furloughed employees on a unanimous basis. i thank the gentlemen and women of this committee for their consideration of this important bill and i strongly urge its adoption on the house floor today. thank you. >> thank you very much for being here today and your insistence to get this bill quickly done i hope was met with our resolve to meet today. i also want to welcome your dear colleague and my dear friend the gentleman from new york, the gentleman mr. serrano, is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. while no one could argue against paying our essential employees i wish that we were here to consider a bill that would reopen the entire government. this bill would pay all esse

more time to get the appropriations done. but the president on september 30 end kated that some ptsd counseling would be affected by the shutdown. is that true? >> i would say we are open for i believe v.a. and as i've said, we have ties to other departments. e i.h.s. and h.h.s., the indian healther is vess, we have veterans being served there who if those operations are not funded, are not being seen for any variety of requirements, ptsd being one. alaskan natives that we -- who are veterans that we provide services through -- services to through either the consortium there or through i.h.s. are probably not being seen. so -- and that's why i say, we can focus on v.a. as long as we understand that there's a broader -- >> right. i understand that the cooperation with other departments will be hindered by this situation. there's no medical centers being shut down, though? they'll be open, is that correct? >> there is one that's affected. and that is north chicago. it's a joint initiative between the united states navy and v.a.

also the appropriations staff. also to recognize university of georgia has one of its finest graduates, doug, who is celebrating his 27th birthday, harty congratulations and birthday to doug. the committee is now complete for now. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> with that the house rules committee has ended yet another meeting. one of a series over the last couple days. moving on the rules to bring legislation to the floor of the house today. the house rules committee working on funding for our national parks and museums, for washington d.c., for america's veterans, also for medical research and the national guard and reserves. as you heard from representative louise slaughter, who is the ranking democrat on the house rules committee and from representative alcee hastings, the white house has already indicated it would veto this legislation if it passes the house as expected, and the senate democratic leader, harry reid, saying it is

first, the four annual appropriations bills to fund the government in regular order . then three different continuing resolutions prior to september 30. and now these short-term c.r.'s to reopen parts of the federal government. in fact, more than 1/3 of it so far. but the senate is committed to inaction. they didn't pass any regular appropriations bills. they will not pass our clean short-term funding bills. and they so far have refused to join us at the negotiating table. mr. speaker, that completely puzzles me. it goes against the grain of what has gone on in this country since we've been a country, when the two bodies differ, the founding fathers said, if you can't agree, aupon the conference members from either -- appoint conference members from either body, from both bodies. it's always worked. except now the senate refuses to do their duty. i hope they'll consider this bill as a stepping stone toward ending the shutdown. we need to come together in a productive way with open ears and open minds to find a way to clean up this mess. i urge my colleagues to preserve

the speaker pro tempore: the chairs has not received appropriate clearance. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. -- moran: mr. speaker, i now i yield time to the gentleman to complete his unanimous consent request. mr. hastings: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that the house bring up the senate amendment to h.j.res. 59 to open the government and go to conference on a budget so that we end this republican shutdown and that's with or without clearance. the speaker pro tempore: as the chair previously advised, that request cannot be entertained absent appropriate clearance. the gentleman from virginia. mr. moran: mr. speaker, for the purpose of the unanimous consent request, i yield to the distinguished layy from -- lady from california, ms. bass. the speaker pro tempore: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that the house bring the senate amendment to h.j.res. 59 to open the government and go to conference on a budget so that we can end this republican government shutdown. as the chair previously advised, that request cannot be entertained absent appr

now, if you don't like something, use the appropriations process. that's a law-making process called the authorization process. when you don't like something, you take a different bill and fix it. you can say, well, we don't like it. well, the democrats didn't like medicare part d because of the way it was -- we never shut down government. we went around saying, yes, it's the law, let's fix it. we can fix things. but this isn't the process of doing it. not shutting down government. and the idea of bringing atever you like today, we're just going to vote one thing, one part of government, now we're on just one piece. but you know, they're never going to get around to all the pieces because they don't like all of government. so they pull these votes up. this is ridiculous. this is putting the country, the world and loss of people at risk and it could be done by just passing a keep-the-government-open bill which we've done 17 times since 2010. 17 times without this division. ome on. don't give us part of the truth ome of the time. mr. carter: mr. speake

budget was going to lead to appropriations. the house did appropriations, the senate did none, we had four important appropriations bills that are still sitting down at the senate without any activity whatsoever. so, once we got to august, it was obvious -- too late. i mean, even july, that's too late for a budget, it's now time, we've got to appropriate money, we're coming up against the hard end of the fiscal year, september 30, and we have got to get appropriations done. so, you can talk about budget conferees. what the house here did, for those who are confused and don't understand the process we use ere, when we pass a resolution appointing conferees, that's appointing negotiators. the house passed a resolution appointing negotiators. i felt like we should have had a counterproposal of some kind that showed some adult was acting at the other end of the hall, by producing something that indicated that people in the senate majority understood that there was massive amounts of waste, fraud and abuse in our federal money appropria

rogers, the chairman of the appropriations. he's asking for the opportunity for us to go to conference. to resolve our differences. people working together, people looking at each other as was suggested by the gentleman from, mr. barton, yeah, probably a tv would be in the room. and the american people would get a chance to weigh and balance both sides also. we think that's important. that's what we're asking for. that's why we're on the floor of the house tonight. the floor of the house of representatives tonight. and this is what we stand for. we're after fairness, we're after an opportunity to get these ideas and the issues resolved for the american people. so, i'm going to urge my colleagues to vote yes on the resolution and i yield back the balance of my time and i move the previous question on the resolution. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. without objection, the previous question is ordered. the question is on adoption of the resolution

the joint resolution addresses the appropriation of certain funds. the subject matter falls within the legislative jurisdiction and accordingly the house joint resolution 70 refers to that question committee. the instructions contained in the motion to recommit proposed an order of business for the house. that subject matter falls within the legislative jurisdiction of the committee on rules. for example, the chair would note the referral of house resolution 424 of the 106th congress, a measure that contained a similar order of business to the committee on rules. by addressing a matter within the jurisdiction of a committee not represented in the joint resolution, the instructions proposed to an amendment that is not germane, the point of order is sustained. . >> i move to delay the appeal on the table. >> the motion is on the motion on the table. those in favor -- those opposed -- the motion is it. not adopted. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> "washington journal is ne

we should do the homeland security appropriations bill and the homeland security appropriations bill. we should do the other bills necessary to defund the operation for the greatest country on planet earth and stop the homeland security appropriations bill and the homeland security appropriations bill. we should do the other bills necessary to defund the operation what we are doing her. thank you very much. >> the time has expired. .he gentleman from can techie >> i recognize the gentleman from texas, mr. weber, for two minutes. >> thank you. one, obamacare passed by the house democrats, 219 of them, 34 democrats joined the republicans in opposition. let's see how many join the republicans in this upcoming vote. republicans -- fact two, republicans have been and are poised to fun everything in the government at current levels and are eager to do so. fact three, polls show americans are overwhelmingly in favor of defund og ba ma cair. fact four, the house, like it or not, our colleagues on the other side of the aisle, the house is the keeper of the purse under the constitution and we a

that's our mantra in the appropriations committee. we are the guardians of the purse, but we need our tool. the government accountability office that we really rely on has furloughed 98% of its staff. i could elaborate on agency after agency, but what i want to show is just this. the consequences of shutdown are affecting people. if they are not on the job, they are not doing the job. the job of our inspector general offices, independent. they are supposed to come with incredible fiscal back ground, their investigators, their auditors, their people who have to know how to find a problem, see if it's criminal or civil, whether we can get our money back and whether we make sure it doesn't happen again. those people want to work, they love their job. it's a calling to them. we need to call them up and say you're back to work. so let's reopen government. let's find a way. let's fund government at a level that makes sure it can function the way it should. let's also pay our debts. i do not want our t bills to become junk bonds. i do not wan

let's debate the appropriation bills. i'm an appropriator. i'm the chair of the homeland security committee. thousands of people tomorrow are going to be laid off, people that protect our borders, help navigate international trade, help keep our hospitality industry going, passports, et cetera. are going to be impacted. but instead of the senator arguing, urging us as the ranking member of the budget committee to go to the budget committee to negotiate, they have objected. we can't go to a conference. senator murray passed her budget months ago. we passed a budget. the house has passed a budget. they aren't the same budget but it's their version, our version, let's go to conference and work it out. but no, we have to now threaten the shutdown of the entire government of the united states because the republicans, 40 years of debate was not enough. 40 years of debate was not enough. two presidential elections which they lost, not convincing enough. the majority of the senate fell to the democrats. not convincing enough. if the people who voted t

remind my friend from wyoming that earlier this year on the first appropriations bill that we passed out of the committee, under the leadership of senator mikulski, was the transportation, housing and urban development bill. if i'm not mistaken, it had some -- it had a number of republican votes in committee. it was brought out onto the floor, an extraneous amendment was offered on egypt by the senator from kentucky whereupon the -- i believe senator mikulski, our leader, filed cloture on the bill so we could vote on the appropriations bill. but, mr. president, i say to my friend from wyoming that all of the republicans on that side voted against cloture, voted against taking up that one appropriations bill. i'm sorry. i'm reminded that we had one republican, the republican from the state of maine, who did vote to go to cloture on that bill. so one republican out of all those on the other side. so i say to my friend from wyoming, we tried to bring up an appropriations bill. it was republicans who objected to even dealing with that appropriations bill. i thank my friend from wyoming. i

the senate has refused to pass any appropriations bills in the last three years or four years. appropriations are. it's a piece meal process where you look at government individually. so i'm really not sure where this argument is coming from. >> you do have 12 agencies. that is the entire federal government. but the fact is that none of the 12 in this instance went when you did have a shutdown. and mr. speaker, i was there in '95. there had in fact a number of the appropriation bills had been passed. >> we have passed four and the senate has refused to take any of them up. >> you have nothing that has finished the process. i'll give you one, for instance, labor, health and education. of which i'm the ranking member on that committee. that bill never even went to the subcommittee. never went to the subcommittee. >> you were right. in 1995 we actually had passed add signed into law six appropriations, half of the total before we got into this fight. >> that's right. >> but for example, i just went back and checked with congressman fred upton who brought to my attention, the vetera

the purse. it is congress that appropriates funds. nowhere will you find in the constitution that congress is relegated to the power of the rubber stamp. and so we know that the president and harry reid wants to -- want us to rubber stamp the health care policies of this administration that we hear about every single day. every single day i'm hearing from one of my constituents. congressman hensarling, they just cut me back to 29 hours because of obamacare. congressman hensarling, my health care premiums have gone up $1,500 because of obamacare. and yet we're told by the president, well, it's the law, don't touch it. well, it's a law that he's already changed seven times. and it is a law that's hurting our constituents. and, no, republicans never, ever, ever going to give up on our quest to have patient-centered health care that's right for our families and doesn't harm our economy, is not an affront to our freedom. we'll never give up on that. now, madam speaker, we know that the president's not going to sign away his signature item a

in the last three years or four years. that's what appropriations are, it's a piecemeal process where you look at government individually. you do have 12 agencies, but the fact is that none of the 12 in this instant went when you did have a shutdown, and speaker, i was there in 95. >> but you have is nothing that has finished the process. i'll give you within for instance. that bill never even went to the subcommittee. >> we passed and signed into law half of the total. veteran passed the house with 400 votes. it's now 127 days that harry reid and the senate have blocked it. they have a continuing resolution, they passed a clean continuing resolution for veterans. to see whether it was the fda, food & drug administration. i sat 2349 committee, quite frankly, where the ryans budget was a billion in the cut to head start. all of a sudden, people have gotten religion. it sounds like it's politics, that just a few months ago we can't fund head start. >> it's a billion in cuts. >> that's not funding head start. we're telling you that we're willing to fun

and that is what the house appropriations committee, under chairman rogers, is doing. and much of it with the support of democrat house members. but if we can get some of these things off the table -- could i have another minute. mr. crenshaw: i yield another minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia has another minute. mr. kingston: if we can agree on military pay and the civilian support staff for the military, if we can agree on furloughed employees, and we can agree with n.i.h. that science and public health should be off the table, then, madam speaker, that big gap that stands between us and the senate right now, it begins to narrow and we create a little bit of momentum for a solution. there are still going to be great differences that aren't going to be easy, but i think it is very important for us to come together and find the things we do agree and move in a positive direction on them. with that, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida reserves. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. serrano: i yield two minut

schiff, a member of the appropriations committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one and a half minutes. mr. schiff: as we approach the end of the first week of the g.o.p. shutdown, i want to highlight the impact it's having on one sector of our government, the intelligence community. as director clapper and others made clear in the hearing yesterday, 07% of key analysts have been forced to leave their posts. this is irresponsible, tragic and most painfully, completely avoidable. house republicans now say they'll put up a bill funding veteran bus not the intelligence agencies, or tomorrow the intelligence agencies but not the f.b.i. or the f.b.i. but not the department of homeland security or d.h.s. and n.i.h. but not the department of justice. this is ridiculous, senseless, and reckless. let's be honest about what the house leadership is really saying. we will choose, hostage by hostage, which agency of the government we will release and do so only to buy time until the ransom we want, we get, the repeal of

by lapse in the fiscal year 2014 appropriations. all medical facilities are open as you heard from the chairman, and operation under normal status. this will continue regardless how long the current government is shut down. it is clear now that in the midst of the shutdown that getting a vote on h.r. 813 as amended, the putting veterans funding first act is necessary and the critical step in ensuring veterans' benefits and services are not put at risk when there is a lapse in appropriations. mr. chairman, i thank you for signing on the letter with me to the speaker asking that h.r. 813 as amended be scheduled for floor action. i encourage all members of the committee to sign on to that letter and send a message that veterans should not and cannot and will not be disadvantaged by which party who is in control. mr. secretary, i look forward to your testimony and the questions to follow. mr. chairman, once again, i thank you very much for having this very important and timely hearing today. with that, i yield back the balance of my time

the faa already had the appropriations bill passed. here was the difference because there were a number of appropriation bills that congress had passed at that point. that said, the issue that you are raising is legitimate in terms of the importance today. we just signed a letter asking that he reexamine the clarification and characterization of the registry that should be accepted because as you look at the cumulative effect it might be hard to argue that there was immediate safety gratifications. but as this builds up we believe strongly not only do you have a genuine safety concerns of not being able to transfer the aircraft many of them knew but some of them are older ones but at the same time you have a big economic impact and the lack of funding that's going to be there. financing is expiring and you have 10,000 the month that you do need to provide the registration for and then there are security issues. the congress require that everyone register every three years so that we would know who is up there. it's important from the ho

the check point. our officers acted appropriately. one of our officers at the initial scene. [inaudible] >> i'll think that is being released at this point. >> can terrorism be ruled out? >> that's also under investigation but uniformed investigators and capital police >> there were no shots fired at the white house. these other locations are where shots were fired and again it's all under investigation. i will let the chief of the capital police talk about that. i will turn it over -- ed donovan from secret service. >> good evening. chief of the united states capital police. you have heard the puller eliminate information regarding what happened at the white house subsequent to that our offices offices -- officers attempted to make a stop at garfield circle. the vehicle eluded them and continued behind us on first constitutional avenue. it appears our officer in an attempt to pursue the vehicle struck the barricade. ultimately the vehicle stopped at second in maryland northeast where we were able to capture the suspect. >> do you have

the issue here. that has been law in this country for 3.5 years. we have been, appropriating money to keep government open. what is the difference now? newdifference now is a attitude, new breed, very mean, very conservative, very anti- government. theirre willing to bring internal kind of power within their caucus to shut down the whole country if not the whole world. it's totally irresponsible. they say we can do this if we can change the health-care bill. if it needs changing, bring it up in a bill, that's how we change things. this rule says let's perhaps 10 parts of government, let's have multiple-choice. whichave a triage, parts of government do you like? we cannot be against all healthcare. we will provide healthcare services for some but any other system that might provide assistance for other kinds of low income people, this is government by multiple-choice. ,et's bring the whole family the whole nation together, rejected this rule, reject the ability to the previous question. >> i believe i only have one more speaker in the room so want to inform my colleagues that

get the appropriation bills done. om our standpoint those on my side of the aisle feel that we don't get amendments. and therefore, it takes so much longer reach to reach unanimous consent agreements to bring these appropriation bills to the floor and we do not appropriate money in the regular order and when i was first chair, as a member of the house of representatives, the senate passed the appropriation bill and the house passed the appropriation bill and we didn't get them all done, but we had in the past and by and large we have at least half of them done for a good deal of the budget. so i would ask you. you mentioned this and you alluded to this in your written statement. will you agree that we got back to the basic process of the budgeting in the regular appropriations process. this would be helpful to your agency, the agencies that organization works with and having predictability. >> absolutely. as you know, senator. when i actually had the privilege of working with you and others on the committee, in craftin

continue conversations through the appropriate diplomatic channels. obviously when it comes to germany, we made it clear we do regardk information with to the president's conversation with the chancellor. >> we will leave the white house briefing to go live to the house. at this briefing continues on our website, www.c- span.org. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in rder. the prayer will be offered by our chaplain, father conroy. chaplain conroy: let us pray. eternal god, we give you thanks for giving us another day. on this day, we ask your blessing on the men and women, citizens all, whose votes have populated this people's house. each member of this house has been given the sacred duty of representing them. o lord, we pray those with whom our representatives met during this past week -- weekend in their home districts be blessed with peace and assurance that they have been listened to. we ask your blessing now on the members of this house whose responsibility lies also beyond the local interests of constituents while honoring them. give eac

aderholt: i yield four minutes to the chairman of the full appropriations committee, mr. rogers of kentucky. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. rogers: mr. speaker, this duringkes sure that even this shut down, the food and drug administration's critical safeguards remain in place to protect our food and drug supply, the health of our people should not be jeopardized. this legislation provides funding for the f.d.a. at the current post-sequestration annual rate. this will provide funding to maintain protections for food, drugs and medical devices and allow the f.d.a. to collect and spend user fees. the length of this authority will last until december 15 or until we enact year-long appropriations that addresses the funding of the federal government in full. as with each of the other individual bills we have considered this week, the language in h.j.res. 77 is nearly identical to what was included in not clean continuing resolution back in september. this bill moves us a step closer to the finish line. but we've got to remember that we can't get there

the spending cuts. i have an appropriations bill. the easier bills taken up before elections, the more difficult bills taken up after an election. we have $1 trillion in spending and that is a lot of money in which to make annual decisions. we could give agency stability for two years instead of one. let's stop making spending cuts hurt and start living within our means. i want to thank my colleague on the end government shutdowns act. it is a smart piece of legislation with incentives. what if we do spending bills one at a time and allow relevant amendment? that would speed up the process but allow script is a in dash scrutiny -- scrutiny as well. we have a spending problem, we don't have a revenue problem. need to raise taxes in order for washington to spend more. we can't spend our way to prosperity. i am a member of the finance committee. let's make it happen. tax reform will help create additional revenue to reduce the deficits and pay down the debt. i am ready to make that happen. my international tax plan would repatriate money

i wanted knowledge as well the ranking member of the appropriations committee, ms. wing, thank you for allowing me to share this evening. the comments and the appreciation and respect i have for bill young. first of all, i would like to say what everybody else has had -- what a great american, what a great patriot. what a great public servant. and bill, may you rest in peace. bill is on the floor, congressman young, chairman young, was on the floor of the house just a few weeks before he passed, and i think that is important to note that he was working every single day to make america better. he loved soldiers and veterans, he loved their families, and it is highly appropriate for him to have his name so honored, named as a veterans hospital. i want to say that it is particularly important to note that congressman young was able to speak to kings and queens and generals and people of high places, but he was best when he was talking to everyday people, to the soldier said he loved. he came from humble beginnings starting with his single parent, his mother, losing his

that's how the defense appropriations bill is put together. it absorbs all of the money and leaves all of the other budgets starving. i know defense is important. i supported a strong defense. i stood against irresponsible cuts to the defense department. but to take a lower number in the whole budget and say we'll take a lower number and give it all to defense and you can't find anything in health and education and social services that are so important. that's not right either. let me have one more point. i said one, one more point is this -- when the senator from tennessee has been very brave because there aren't that many brave people around here. he's said we may need to raise a few revenues here and there. we can't solve this problem by cuts alone, the last big deal we did, we were able to figure out how to raise revenue and make some cuts so we could have a good way, a steady way to balance our budget and not pull the rug out from underneath this very promising economy. i've got 5% unemployment in louisiana. i'm not talking as a state that

the funding will last until december 15 or until we and act a full your appropriations. urddition to providing for former servicemen and women, this bill will continue to move the ball down the field closer to our ultimate goal of funding the entire government. continue ons must how we as an entire congress can come to an agreement that funds every agency and department and ends the shut down and reopens the government. that's why i was so disappointed this morning when the u.s. senate declared that they did not want to meet with us to talk about how to end this shut down. we offered to sit down and talk in a conference committee. a.m. said no 9:30 way. we don't want to talk to you. i thought that's what congress was all about was working out differences across this body to the senate. apparently, i am wrong. i urge my colleagues to support our veterans. make the next step toward ending this unnecessary government shut down. pass this bill today. i yield back. the gentleman from texas reserves in the gentleman from georgia has the floor. i am delighted to yield to the dis

the joint resolution addresses the appropriation of certain funds. the subject matter falls within the legislative jurisdiction and accordingly the house joint resolution 70 refers to that question committee. the instructions contained in the motion to recommit proposed an order of business for the house. that subject matter falls within the legislative jurisdiction of the committee on rules. for example, the chair would note the referral of house resolution 424 of the 106th congress, a measure that contained a similar order of business to the committee on rules. by addressing a matter within the jurisdiction of a committee not represented in the joint resolution, the instructions proposed to an amendment that is not germane, the point of order is sustained. mr. van hollen: i repeal the ruling of the chair to keep the government open now. the speaker pro tempore: the question is shall the ruling of the chair stand as decision of the house. for what purpose does the gentleman from idaho rise? >> i move to delay the repeal -- to lay the appeal on the ta

there is a suggestion on the advanced appropriations on the full va funding is the way to go. without i think he and i yield back. >> thank you very much. if i can ask the committee's indulgence for just one second and recognize ms. kirkpatrick for an introduction. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i just wanted to welcome to the committing mr. and mrs. silver star in the back of the room. their son, daniel, an arizona veteran committed suicide earlier this year. we are going to be doing a roundtable with them in this committee room at 1:30 p.m. i want to acknowledge their presence and invite everybody to participate in a roundtable at 1:30 p.m. i yield back. thank you, mr. chairman. [applause] >> we welcome the summers to the the committee room and the congress and we certainly at our condolences to you, and thank you for your sons service. we are extremely sorry for your loss. with that, mr. amity, you are recognized. >> thanks, mr. chairman. going back to cemetery thing for just a second, under the heading of triage until something changes, d. your present procedures allow on a c

differences with the appropriations process in the house. today i want to speak about a particular issue related to the shutdown of the federal government, the lack of funding. prior to that occurring, prior to september 30, both the house and senate and the president signed legislation called "pay our military" act. it was designed to make sure that our military men and women had compensation, should there be a shutdown. and i appreciate that legislation passing and am pleased that it is in place now that we are in the circumstance that we're in. there were rumors and concerns about how that bill would be implemented by the department of defense. the senator from west virginia, senator manchin, and i led an effort in which we had 50 senators in a highly bipartisan way ask the secretary of defense to interpret that legislation in a broad way that would make certain that our furloughed civilian employees who support our military men and women as well as our reserve component, those who serve in the national guard and the reserve, would be put

i wanted knowledge as well the ranking member of the appropriations committee, ms. lowing, thank you for allowing me to share this evening. the comments and the appreciation and respect i have for bill young. first of all, i would like to say what everybody else has had -- what a great american, what a great patriot. what a great public servant. and bill, may you rest in peace. bill is on the floor, congressman young, chairman young, was on the floor of the house just a few weeks before he passed, and i think that is important to note that he was working every single day to make america better. he loved soldiers and veterans, he loved their families, and it is highly appropriate for him to namedis name so honored, as a veterans hospital. i want to say that it is particularly important to note that congressman young was able to speak to kings and queens and generals and people of high places, but he was best when he was talking to everyday people, to the soldier said he loved. he came from humble beginnings starting with his single parent, his mother, losing his home

yoder, a member of the appropriations committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. yoder: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the chairman from kentucky for his work on this legislation to help provide funding for head start kids to have an opportunity to realize all the opportunities that life presents. mr. speaker, i rise today to ask us to work together and setaside our differences for the good of the american people. we are divided. we have an ongoing dispute about whether congress should receive special treatment, and whether individuals should be given the same exemptions that business vs. been given under the affordable care act. that is in dispute. why can't we go forward with legislation and policies and things that we all agree on. the senate has a position and the house has a position and we can go on and on with this debate about whether we should fund special treatment for congress and for businesses and labor unions under obamacare, but there are unnecessary casualties to that debate.

the food and drug administration. continuing appropriations for head start. and salaries and related expenses of certain federal employees.$&ñ traditionally when we've had a situation like this when the employees do come back to work, they get compensated for the time they weren't there. you noi wha know what people ine think? how come we're paying people for not working? soy the solution was to get them all back to work. but then the people wouldn't be feeling the hurt out there. and if they don't feel the hurt, dhee know who to blame. and if they can blame one side or the other, that makes a difns in elections. that's not what this body is about. we should be about getting things done in the regular order, following the right spending process, which we don't do. and avoiding situations where we make it hurt. we've got a scwefts that's in effect. it is the first time that the federal appropriations, the federal spending has actually been cut since the korean wariments but it was a true cut. but it was a 2.3% cut. now, you won't find anybody agreeing that it w

now, looming reductions in the house budget and appropriation bills further threaten economic growth. we have a mandate from the american people to ensure that we do not face another shut down or default show down, and there is bipartisan support for ending automatic drastic cuts that cost 800,000 american jobs next year if left in place. the house majority could not pass any spending bills at the sequester levels. when republicans pulled the transportation hud bill from house consideration, chairman rogers said, quote, with this action, the house declined to proceed on the implementation of the very budget adopted, just three months ago. the house has made its choice. sequestering and ill-conceived cuts must be brought to an end, end quote. let's consider some of the sequester's impact on jobs and the economy. 1.55 billion less for the national institute of help to conduct ground breaking medical research, every dollar of which generates, and supports high paying jobs, and 57,000 fewer children and head start resulting in 18,000 staff members suffered pay cuts lost their jobs. 650,00

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the senate passed their appropriation bill. the house passed their appropriation bills. we do not get them all done. , you mentioned predictability and you alluded to this in your written statement. would you agree that we got back to the basic process of the regulard appropriation process? and this would be helpful to your agencies that your andnization works with having predictability. >> absolutely. when i had the privilege of working with you, so many others on this committee in crafting a viable budget for several of the agencies we work with closely now. both the faa and ntsb are the examples i am thinking of. viable to come to terms with proposing a budget, understanding the views of both house and senate. then you came together on a budget that had both predictability, clear guidance. we understood the priorities that made sense from the standpoint of congressional concern. we were able to act on that. that is an important thing. it gives a clear understanding have forhe taxpayers the constituents view. that is the way we used to do business. would give now anythi

the government. we had a partial appropriation. the pay our military act was in appropriation, so we kept -- except for that first four days, most of our civilians working, all of our military. i think that limited the disruption, but it was there. i'm sure we delayed testing, though i can't quantify it for you. my guess is that we will be able to catch up reasonably quickly for those kinds of delays, backlogs of vouchers we haven't paid. i'm a lot more worried about the morale effects of all of our people, but especially our civilians. and you've heard that story, but i think we all are concerned. i mean, it's not just this event. i mean, we've had three years of pay freezes, although i noted the cr did not prohibit the -- or either the military or civilian pay raise, so -- so far, it's still in place. we've had three years of pay freezes. we had the sequester furloughs, now the shutdown furloughs. i mean, my own people are kind of looking at me and asking the question -- most of them are seniors, so they'll probably stick around,

the democrats believe the appropriate number is $1,058 ,000,000,000. the republicans believe the appropriate number is $986 ,000,000,000. that number is right here. we've agreed to drop our number all the way down to $986 ,000,000,000, representing a $70 billion compromise. you continue to put forth this myth. as if we're the ones behaving unreasonably. the american people see through this factual misrepresentation. lastly, let me just say, we had another great myth put forth this weekend by none other than the speaker of the house of representatives. no, not the junior senator from texas, the other one from ohio. he said, there are not the votes in the house to pass a clean c.r. not the votes? i'm no mathematician, mr. speaker, but it's clear, 198 democrats have indicated they're willing to reopen the government if you put the bill on the floor. and if you add that to the 23 republicans who have gone on record back at home in their districts, that gets us to 221. the magic number being 217 to reopen the government. stop peddling factual misrepresentati