understand because your argument you seem to be saying that what's wrong with the arizona law is that the arizona legislature is trying to control what its employees are doing, and they have to be free to disregard the desires of the arizona legislature, for whom they work, and follow the priorities of the federal government, for whom they don't work. general verrilli: but they but with respect to immigration enforcement, and to the extent all they're doing is bringing people to the federal government's attention, they are cooperating in the enforcement of federal law justice kennedy: but the hypothetical is that that's all the legislature is doing. general verrilli: well, except i think, justice kennedy, the problem is that it's not cooperation if in every instance the officers in the state must respond to the priorities set by the state government and are not free to respond to the priorities of the federal officials who are trying to enforce the law in the most effective manner possible. justice sotomayor: i'm sorry. i'm a little confused. general, i'm terribly confused by your answer. okay? and i don't k

the state of arizona? >> that we know for sure. >> reporter: with that in mind, the arizona legislature took up a bill to dissolve the office and leave enforcement up to the sheriff. under the law, any arizona police department in which more than half of the officers were decertified by the state for corruption or crime in an eight-year period would be dissolved. >> if you have more than 50% of your officers decertified, do you have any business having a law enforcement agency? i mean, that's ridiculous. >> reporter: colorado city currently has six cops. six other cops have been kicked often with the past eight years. the state says each of those cops was decertified for different reasons such as felony sexual conduct with a minor. bigamy, refusal to testify and answer questions in a grand jury in a deposition and seeking advice from a fugitive, that fugitive being warren jeffs when he was on the fbi ten most wanted list. a letter recovered when jeffs was arrested written by the former chief declared, i am praying for you to be protected. and yearn to be with you again. the arizona senate passed the bill unanimously. but then somethi

the arizona law? the supreme court has been taking up that law which the arizona legislature passed, arizona law enforcementrequired to check the immigration status of people they pull over for violations. >> the president added a very complicated gloss to that by the decision that he announced last friday when he on his own rewrote immigration regulations to say that if you came here before you were 16 and you're under 30 and still here and came because of your parents and didn't break the law and went to high school and graduated or in the military, a bunch of regulations he put in there you can't be deported. so if the supreme court upholds the arizona law and if arizona decides to enforce federal law where with the federal government is not, which federal law will they enforce? the law is writtens by the congress or laws rewritten by the president? this will become enormously complex. what will the court do? the oral argument, again questions by the justices seem to indicate that they were favorable towards that arizona statute but again, we'll find out in a couple days. maybe as soon as thursday. jon:

. >> host: stacy a useful tool in the arizona constitution. legislatures will consider the mets have faith that the last, the right groups are fearing bias. watching to see how states move forward on this issue. let's hear from bruce, democratic caller wisconsin. good morning, bruce. >> caller: good morning, thanks for c-span. the question has been framed incorrectly for years now. we need to ask, how many people do you want here and when you want to get there? we have a population of 315 million. we have population 100,000,000,030s, to undermine the late 70s, projected to be 450 million by 2050. we don't have enough oil or water resources are short. the places to recreate or crowded. i would like to see this aster both presidential candidates. i supported obama, but i'm upset with his stance on immigration. i would like to hear how many people as you think we should have in america and my midget like to see us get there? , my kids to be out of have grandkids. thank you for taking my call. i'll hang up and listen. >> guest: it is something that we said and

the border. >> arizona has an all-out border problem there that's not just about immigration, it's about security, and its legislature, frustrated with inaction from the federal level, reacted with this law. what i've said is i believe arizona has a right to pass that bill. i understand why they did it, but i don't think it's a national model and i don't think other states should follow suit. for example, i don't want to see a law like that in florida. immigration is not a black-or-white issue, a yes-or-no issue. it is complicated because it has a deep human element. these are human beings who find themselves here undocumented, but the vast majority of them are here in search for a better life and opportunities for their children. >> president obama has scored major political points with latino voters after he announced the u.s. government would block the deportation of young, undocumented immigrants who had some high school education or military experience. the "usa today"/gallup poll last week shows 82% of americans approve of the decision. according to another poll, the president had an overwhelming lead amongst h

supreme court happens to strike down the arizona law or if they hold it as legal, you'll see many others states duplicating the arizona law almost immediately. legislatureo create the same law themself. >> jeff makes an important point. it has nothing to do with racial profiling at this point, what it has to do with is whether or not arizona has the legal right to enforce immigration laws as well. >> reporter: but there are other states, you're absolutely right, other states have already jumped on the bandwagon, especially in the south. where more conservative states have tightened immigration laws. i agree that if the court gives the green light to arizona, you're going to see more of those laws upheld and probably more of them passed. >> we should read those states we had a map up of states that have immigration enforcement laws, utah, arizona, indiana, georgia and south carolina. those that are considering same legislation, kentucky, tennessee, mississippi, florida, north carolina, virginia, rhode island, kansas, massachusetts, nebraska and pennsylvania. >> notice no other border states though. >> it was interesting -- >> not california, texas or new

the sunshine state could see. that's coming up, a full update right after this. >>> arizona has an all-out border program not just about immigration but about security. the legislaturefrus freighted with reaction from the federal level. i believe arizona has a right to pass that bill. i understand why they did it, but i don't think it's a national model and i don't think other states should follow suit. i don't want to see a law like in florida. immigration is not a black or white issue or yes or no issue. it's complicated because it has a deep human elements. these are human beings who find themselves here undocumented, but the vast sa mort are here for a better leaf and tupts for their children. >> there's marco rubio from florida talking yesterday on meet of press about the impending ruling from the supreme court athat we now have. we have that ruling. we continue to stay on today's breaking news. the topic of the supreme court decision on arizona's immigration law. i want to get reaction that we've got in copies from senators jon kyl sxwrand john mccain. while they want to review the supreme court decision, today's ruling has a key component of the law. the air

this limited way reframed by the court you see in south carolina, georgia, utah and indiana attempts by state legislatures to model what has been upheld at least in arizonarestingly those with the exception of indiana are all really red states, romney states. they won't engender a whole lot of activity in terms of the political action in terms of the electoral college, but you are going to see, i think, an energized community, the latino community is going to see even this aspect that has been upheld as a threat. it's going to be something that democrats can use. >> and let's talk about those states where it really will and could potentially make a difference, chuck. i think that there is generally a feeling and a number of republicans have said this that mitt romney needs to hit that 31% that john mccain had. where are the states where at the margins an energized electorate one side or another could make a difference where this ruling on immigration might a difference? >> reporter: there's three object juvious states, nevada, o and florida. i would also point you to north carolina and virginia, where you have had north carolina with the fastest growth a

the arizona decision by the u.s. supreme court is very instructive. we immediately proposed a repeal, but they threw it to a public toin maine and came up with remedies, two of which they forwarded to the legislature. we did not do that. our committee voted to repeal the act. thank you very much. >> first and foremost, i was the proponent for proposition f. i encountered a it rogue developer that spent $10 million. we, the people, spend $5,000. you need to think about this, referencing all the amendments that are made in this legislation. i would like to see an independent body. this ethics commission is not an independent body. therefore, item #6 and item number seven, and one of you means well. the other one does not mean well. you are going to send it back to the ethics commission that is dealing with ross mirkarimi and all of those things. what focus will be given to the agenda items? that is my concern. supervisors, whether we like it or not, we need to have an independent body where people do not take instructions from outside. right now, we have very corrupt politicians. let me repeat, very, very corrupt politicians. and i come from a federal agency. i even worked for law enforcement. we kn

our portion of the alabama bill was similar to the arizona bill in many aspects. we did come back in the legislatureake some major adjustments to our bill. we left in part that i'm opposed to and that's the part where it requires schools to determine if students are there and if the students are legal. i continue to hear from my school, people, administrators and teachers that they are there to teach and not enforce the law. that's one of the parts i wanted to change, but we did not do that in the session. >> that was a huge part. that's the first the nation heard about children being checked as far as their immigration status goes. i do want to ask you, you reference major changes. there was a bit of an embarra embarrassing incident in your state where two police officers pulled over two foreign national who is were in your state for work. they didn't have proof of documentation at the time and that's when you started looking at this law and thought there needs to be changes. is that the part of the law that you and your colleagues changes? >> yes, we did. that was part of the law that was there an

john, there is no question that the action of extremists in our state legislature and even sometimes even on the part of our governor has caused economic loss to arizonat there are those who are joining together to tell the real story of arizona, which is a story that is welcoming that is tolerant, and that has a long history of a diverse population. that's the story we wants to tell about arizona. >> john: well, your you're extremely dip mat tick, and i'm sure jan brewer is very impressed the way you can "walk the line" how can people learn more about your campaign? >> john, one of the things that we're proud about in our campaign is my ability to work with anyone, republican or democrat. anybody who wants to learn more can go to my website at www.kyrstensinema.com. that's kyrsten www.kyrstensinema.com. >> john: good luck. that is kyrsten sinema running for congress in arizona. we'll continue our look at lgbt candidates tomorrow and wednesday. for more info check out www.current.com/pride. the team here has done a fantastic job on this issue because governor granholm does not hire chimps. it's worth checking out. now coming up next, what do the tea l

goes back to the district court for further interpretation by the arizona courts as to what exactly was meant on behalf of the legislature show papers or required to show papers, a person like me with brown skin because of my heritage and i am suspect by vir shoe of how i look? that is what we fear the most, u.s. citizens and legal residents are treated differently by virtue of the color of our skin, the accent on our tongue, and that is truly fundamentally un-american. >> thank you, arturo, good to speak to you again. we will speak with you shortly. >>> and immigration is not the only story that latinos are watching. they are also watching mexico who will pick their next president. >> reporter: a rallying cry growing louder for young people here tired of politics as usual. what started as a student protest is becoming a movement focused on the presidential election and beyond. how important is this election? >> it is very important. it can give us real change to give us freedom to go out to the streets and not be afraid. >> reporter: the fear is that democratic progress will be stopped or reversed if the dominant party

fought the state of arizona on how they could impose illegal immigration status release check on i wille immigration status. police officers in arizona right now were instructed by the state legislaturegrant, they could then demand prove of citizenship. critics, including the obama administration says that is racial profiling and do not agree with it. that is a huge political issue as well that we'll hear this week in court. >> i often wonder if i was driving through arizona if anyone would ask from my documents because i'm a new immigrant in this country but i think i wouldn't be asked. it's nice to wake up with us. haven't seen you in a while. >> this is fun. >> open invitation. nice to see you. >>> an anonymous donor is offering to pay the cost for president obama's visit to the a new hampshire town. it caused a ruk us when it asked the obama campaign to cover up to $30,000 in police overtime costs for the president's visit to the high school. the campaign refused and the town is honored to be hosting the president and the issue is not political. >>> this is a first time ever for saudi arabia, decided to allow women to compete in the olympics. isn't that nice? saudsdy arabia is th

. >> arizona has a border problem not just about immigration, it's about security and its legislature reacted with this law. >> reporter: while immigration is a hot button issue, the obama care ruling will be a judgment on president obama's signature achievement if not his political legacy. >> as i watched the news coverage everyone seems to assume it's going to be overturned. it may not. >> from main street to pennsylvania avenue, all eyes on the supreme court. and some big decisions. brian mooar, nbc news, washington. >> in egypt the week-long wait for election results is over. mohammed morsi has been declared the winner. there is a great deal of uncertainty about how much real power he'll have. >> reporter: egypt's supreme election commission declared mohammed morsi as the winner making him egypt's next president, scheduled to take office july 1. celebrations among the supporters of the muslim brotherhood and all who voted for him are behind me and other parts of the country. no doubt just as soon as he will assume power there will be many questions whether or not he actually has the power to be the president. that is because the supreme council the armed force

the legislature to sign a loyalty oath to their legislature's republican leadership. then two weeks later at the national level, members of the republican national committee were invited to a private meeting with mitt romney in arizonabut in order to attend that meeting, rnc members were told they had to sign an oath pledging their loyalty to mitt romney, in writing. this is not just pledging that you do to -- to say that you really support your party. both parties occasionally get people to swear to that, in terms of participating in open primaries and stuff like that. but what the republicans have become rather comfortable with is pledging an oath to a particular republican politician by name. i pledge allegiance to mitt romney. perhaps the most striking one of these was reported a few days ago in massachusetts, where the state republican party has frankly seemed a little flummoxed about what to do with all the ron paul supporters who took over their massachusetts delegation to the national republican convention. i mean, yeah, massachusetts may be mitt romney's home state, but the ron paul folks took that delegation over, just as easily as they took it over in minnesota and nevada and iowa and all the other places

. >> and beyond the voter suppression, i think a lot of these immigration pieces of legislature that you see in arizonanted immigrants who are leaving the the state. it is the mixed status families. you see an exodus of latinos, who are u.s. citizens, leaving these states and i think there is a very similar calculus. >> is it now we have an internal migration also caused by a set of jim crow policies, in this case, antiimmigrant policies. more in just a moment, but first, it's a time for a preview of weekends with alex. >> we have new reaction today on the jerry sandusky verdict. i spoke to one of the victims' attorneys and he tells us the remarkable story of how his client acted. >>> mitt romney and the gop retreat. why are jeb bush and former secretary of state condoleezza rice going? could they be on the short list? >>> the lady bullied on the schoolbus. in a matter of a month, she may be a very rich woman. now it's a story about the kindness of strangers. >>> in office politics, martin bashir is at once moving politi bash ir is moving and moving and he'll tell us a love story, melissa. >> i love ma

the state of arizona. and the key is -- now, this is all based on if the legislature made $100,000 over a year, after 20 yearsld have an $80,000 pension because he used a multiplier of 4%. but steve, when you look at, for instance, just a state employee, it is half that number. we'll move that graphic here in just a second. ok. look at that. 80,000 for the legislature and only about $43,000 for the average state worker. >> right. same amount of time spent, same final salary but they -- the formulas are very complex. that's one of the problems that we have with the system. people who don't understand what the real costs are so they give themselves a better formula than state workers. >> you mean the multiplier. >> yeah, exactly. that's one -- again, these systems are so complex and the formulas in how you figure it out, that's part of the problem. they add to it because we don't even realize sometimes that they have a better pension because we don't realize the formula is so complex in their favor. >> it's not like they're going to tell us. >> that's for sure. >> you look at a place like kentucky, their multip

legislature. arizona as a constitutional right to do what it did. i don't think that should be a national model. i think ther the federal government to do its job to continue to improve security at the border to verify, to modernize the legal immigration system. these are the sorts of things we should be doing at the federal level but the federal government is not going to act states like arizona facing a public safety crisis are going to. >> you wrote in the book you were conflicted about president obama. on the one hand the nieftz elected you were working on a local television station. you got caught up in the moment of the first african american ever elected president and you were emotional about it. on the other hand you write about his -- you felt the need to messages you write it was a left of center policy agenda the country didn't need. you think in that sense he hid who the real obama was during that campaign? >> absolutely. if he had run on some of these issues he wouldn't have been elected. why didn't he campaign on obama care when he was running for office? why didn't he campaign on the stimulus

arizona for simply attempting to do what the federal agencies have miserably failed. he sued florida because they're trying to remove the names of dead people from voter rolls. he sued texas because it's duly elected legislature rightfully refuses to spend their money to give money to those who kill unborn babies. >> when serious national security leaks endanger american military and intelligence personnel as well as foreign nationals who seek to help us fight terrorism, he appoints a couple of his own justice department lawyers to look into it. one of them was a generous campaign contributor to president obama. even though the individual might have impeccable integrity, it just doesn't pass the smell test. justice it supposed to be blind, but this justice department winks at the law, the constitution, and the authority of congress. if the nation's chief attorney can't be trusted to follow the law, then how in the world do we explain to teenagers that they've got to do it? i expect that it's going to be assumed that my call for eric withholer'withholder's renailing to be about the politics. it would be better for the republicans if withholder holds on. he's too easy a target going into the heat of the electio