he will provide the board with any needed legal advice this evening. at the board is christopher pacheco. we are joined by representatives by some of the departments that have cases before the board . scott sanchez is here and representing the planning department and ethics -- >> >> planning commission and we have ed ris kin here and christine who is the director of the municipal services and taxis and have an officer from the san francisco police department permit bureau. if you could go over the guidelines and conduct the swearing in progress. >> the board requests that you turn off all phones and proceedings. please have conversations in the hallways. the rules are as follows representatives each have seven minutes to present their cases and three minutes for rebuttals. parties affiliated within these matters must be complete within that time and members of the public have three minutes to address the board but no rebuttals. to assist the board members who wish to speak on an item are asked but not required to have a speaker card what you come to the podium. car

the board staff when you come to the podium. speaker cards and pens are available on the left side of the podium. the board welcomes your comments and suggestions, with survey forms on the left side of the podium as well. if you have questions about requesting a rehearing, board rules or hearing schedules, please speak to board staff during a break or after the meeting, or call the board in the morning. the board appeals office is broadcast live on san francisco government tv, sfg tv and channel 78. and thank you for your attention. at this time point in time we are conduct our swearing in process. if you plan to speak at any part of tonight's meeting, please stand and raise your right hand and say "i do" after being sworn in or affirmed. please note that any member the public can take this oath according to the sunshine ordinance in the code. >> do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >> i do. >> thank you. >> vice president fung, we have one housekeeping issue, 12-041, this is regarding a letter of determination, ha

i have committed to the board to maintain the board's website in the rpñ?ñ?otioneñ?ñ? to accepte changes that we've @zñ?ñ?discusd today, i'm certainly happy to answer any questions. weugñ?ñ? would appreciate the dt then sitting in your committee for several weeks, for a motion to continue would also'wñ?ñ? ben order for the 15th of novemb??ñ?ñr. >> chair kim: thank you, madam clerk. and certainly&6ñ?ñ? appreciate e work that is involved in cleaning up the language around our board rules. and i think this is certainly helpful and also more clear, and also puts into writing some of the things we've been doing practice, including as you mentioned revenue measures which have already been referredgl9ovo our budget and finance committee instead of our rules committee. around website design and maintenance acknowledging that is something the clerk's office will continue to do. before we take a motion to accept these amendments, i'm going to open this item up for public comment. so if you'd/qñ?ñ?ñ like to speao minutes. >> david pilpel. i haveneñ?ñ? spoken to angela,

this legislation would provide that if the board is required to legislate for a project to happen, the board of supervisors becomes the c-e-q-a decision maker and the c-e-q-a item automatically comes to the board and is agendized along with the underlying zoning change or whatever the legislative change is and the board considers them, the two items together, and then the full board takes action. not deprive anyone the ability to comment [speaker not understood] c-e-q-a. in fact, it came to an automatic appeal. another change is that currently when a c-e-q-a appeal is filed, no action can be taken by anybody, by the board, by any commission. and that means there are plenty of times where actions need to be taken but don't have any physical impact or irreversible impact, but everything is frozen. this will provide when c-e-q-a appeal is filed, actions can continue to occur. for example, the hpc can continue to consider a landmarking or similar kinds of process, but no physical change can be made to the property. and, of course, the c-e-q-a determination is overturned, those decisions will be

the board board and the rest of the city family who has made this event possible. we are also honored to be joined by several giants dignitaries. president and ceo larry baer and his wife sam. [cheers and applause] . giants vice president and general manager brian saibian and his wife amanda. [cheers and applause] the wife of the skipper mrs. kim bochy. and let us now welcome distinguished members of the giants ownership group, charles johnson, david jenkins, trina and rob veen, tory and steven humphrey and allen baer. and we also joined by past giants owners. please welcome the family jamie and kim rupert and peter stoneum. also here with us today bob and connie laurie. peter and debbie mc clawlin. bill and sally newco. and now let's give it up for your giants training staff. david, mark and carl, and harold. [cheers and applause] [inaudible] your assistant coaches. shawn dun can, dave stone and the there will will clark. [cheers and applause] . and the manager for the past 54 years the legendary one, mike murphy. [cheers and applause] and we would also like to ex

finding no. 2, the jury said that the retirement board did not complete a failure analysis downturn. the pension boardnd staff responded that the losses were the result of unprecedented conditions in the financial market. they say that the board did conduct an analysis because they asked their advisers to make a report on the reasons for thee

the board or staff was unethical. findings 6 states, the -- >> supervisor elsbernd: a quick question on that finding. as you know i served on the board anonymous board members quoted. i don't remember any discussion whatsoever, any evidence in any public hearings ksz and you tell me if you had it in any public discussions of the fund talking about increasing its investment return number. we've talked about decreasing it from 775 to 75. was there any discussion about going higher? >> no. >> supervisor elsbernd: well you're saying -- you have a finding here that says the fund can artificially reduce the city's estimated liabilities by increasing its investment return. i agree, it could. but -- >> it says -- >> supervisor elsbernd: okay. but respectfully, i would suggest if you're going to put in a hypothetical like this, maybe it should be grounded in some sort of fact. otherwise you could say things like, yeah, i mean i could come up with all kinds of hypotheticals that have no fact. i mean no one even jokingly said so i just get very concerned when a document goes out with the grand jury stamp of approval that has something that has