this legislation would provide that if the board is required to legislate for a project to happen, the board of supervisors becomes the c-e-q-a decision maker and the c-e-q-a item automatically comes to the board and is agendized along with the underlying zoning change or whatever the legislative change is and the board considers them, the two items together, and then the full board takes action. not deprive anyone the ability to comment [speaker not understood] c-e-q-a. in fact, it came to an automatic appeal. another change is that currently when a c-e-q-a appeal is filed, no action can be taken by anybody, by the board, by any commission. and that means there are plenty of times where actions need to be taken but don't have any physical impact or irreversible impact, but everything is frozen. this will provide when c-e-q-a appeal is filed, actions can continue to occur. for example, the hpc can continue to consider a landmarking or similar kinds of process, but no physical change can be made to the property. and, of course, the c-e-q-a determination is overturned, those decisions will be

the full board? and is that different than today? >> if the board needs to hear the entitlement, they typically hear planning entitlements at the land use committee. it is not an approval but a recommendation. a recommendation for approval. and it typically goes to the full board. in this case and also as the board procedures there's no public comment typically at the full board, but for appeals. so, if this were to go through, i believe what would typically happen would be the board could have a decision that they could make -- take all the public comment for the public at the committee level or the board sits as a committee as a whole at the full board. so, they could also choose to -- the committee could not hear it at all and the full board could hear its sitting as a committee. the full board as a whole [speaker not understood]. >> thank you. i think that is an important distinction and disdifference to what it is today and what it might be in the future. it is not for us to decide, i think it is for the board to decide. i just wanted to highli

while here on sean's last board day for those of you who don't know carmen and i have watch as he has a sticky pad on the board to could you please tell down his days on the board here and so he has come over the last months and so he commented after the number of days after three years missing only three board meeting and this has been your life and i know you are going to go onto beinger and better thing but i did some back calculations here and that is, you know over 70 -- what is it 73 days of your life have been spent in board meetings here in this champ better yourself and just alone in public comment if you take averaging generally speaking it's over 500 hours in public comment and that is 20 days of your life have been in public comment and so i can't wait to see you in public comment at the next board immediate peating and i know you are not going to be there and so i was looking through and found some old pictures and so i put an old deck here but jest i don't know if you can put pull it up on the screen here but -- i don't know if ughs you guys can pull it up ... i don't know if it needs to be sensorred we will see. it's probably too late at this poi

the rent board? that troubles me a lot. i would ask you to continue this until the opportunity for the rent board to talk about this and we can talk about this at the rent board. we have been through many, many hearings at the rent board where everyone gets up and talks about their perspective and that's happen. i'd like to see that happen if it's allowable by you. thank you very much. >> thank you. renee' currin, kendra frashman, victoria hamilton. >> hi, i'm renee' currin, also a counselor at the tenants' union. my understanding is the rent board isn't handling harassment per se as a decrease of services so that may be why they are not hearing a lot of those cases. that may be my misunderstanding but that's what i've generally told tenants, you know, to try to call it a quiet enjoyment issue and i think that can be very discouraging to tenants, that there's a difficult way to quantify these issues. we do have a lot of tenants coming in with, like, stacks of superficial or unsubstantiated eviction notices. a lot of perfectly educated tenants who think that means they have to move out don't understand that there has to be a s

members of the public have up to three minutes each to address the8 9m board and no rebuttal. please speak into the end of the microphone. to assist the boardpreparation of minutes you are asked to submit a speaker card to board staff. speakere>bí are available on the left side of the podium. the board welcomes your comments and suggestions. there are customer satisfaction survey forms on the podium for your convenience. if you have questions about requesting a rehearing, the board's rules orl8 schedules speak to staff during the meeting or call or visit the board office at 1650 mission street in sweat 304 which is located between dubois and van ness avenue. this is rebroadcast on fridays at 4:00 pm on channel 26. dvds of this meeting are available for purchase from sf gv. we will swear in those who intend to testify. if you wish to have the board give your testimony evident den shear weight stand, raise your right hand and say i do after being affirmed. note any member of the public may speak without taking the oath pursuant to their right under the sunshine ordinance. do you solemnly swear or affirmc the testimony you're about to give wil

the board board and the rest of the city family who has made this event possible. we are also honored to be joined by several giants dignitaries. president and ceo larry baer and his wife sam. [cheers and applause] . giants vice president and general manager brian saibian and his wife amanda. [cheers and applause] the wife of the skipper mrs. kim bochy. and let us now welcome distinguished members of the giants ownership group, charles johnson, david jenkins, trina and rob veen, tory and steven humphrey and allen baer. and we also joined by past giants owners. please welcome the family jamie and kim rupert and peter stoneum. also here with us today bob and connie laurie. peter and debbie mc clawlin. bill and sally newco. and now let's give it up for your giants training staff. david, mark and carl, and harold. [cheers and applause] [inaudible] your assistant coaches. shawn dun can, dave stone and the there will will clark. [cheers and applause] . and the manager for the past 54 years the legendary one, mike murphy. [cheers and applause] and we would also like to ex

the board and no rebuttal. please speak into the microphone. to assist the board in the proper notes you are asked to submit a speaker card when you come up to speak. the board welcome yours comments and suggestions. there are customer satisfaction forms on the podium for your convenience. if you have questions about requests a rehearing the úp@ppx@ú >> good evening and welcome to the december 5th, 2012 meeting of san francisco board of appeals. the presiding officer this evening is board president chris hwang who is engined by vice president frank fung, commissioner [a-ers/]ia hurtado and commissioner ann lazarus and welcome to our newest member commissioner honda. deputy [khr-frpb/] or city attorney will provide the board with any needed legal advice and the legal process clerk and i'm cynthia goldstein and we're joined by departments scott sanchez here, the zoning administrator and also representing the planning department and planning commission. joseph dusty representing the department of building inspection, and department of would now like to, urban fores

i've dadev kahn, [speaker not understood], on behalf of the san francisco downtown parking corporation board. * david i'm working with the board, san francisco downtown parking board to finalize use agreement for the 5th and mission garage. i've been speaking the last several days with the city attorney's office and actually this afternoon with mr. roberts and mr. katari. we have a few remaining issues with respect to the lease termination. it is the expectation those remaining issues will be resolved and the language finalized no later than friday at 12 o'clock. i've discussed that with mr. katari. the staff recommendation as the board understands it is to approve the lease termination subject to the ability to ratify the language provided that it remains substantially similar to the agreement before the board and we agree with that recommendation. >> sir, thank you. anybody else care to address the board? if not, we need to do the amendment first as described. there is a motion to approve the amendment. is there a second >> second. >> discussion all in favor say aye. >> aye. >> opposed? okay. [laughter] >> okay. the man is w

but we began to quoth watch sean's career unfollowed as the board board laze horizon [spelling?] and so, just how it man nested and this is a guy that started off as a legislative aid, to a supervisor to the supervisor the district seven. become to board liaison and then get approved to board supervisor and ran in his own right and it's been remarkable to stand by the shrines and watch you. personally when i first ran -- when i first got the idea to run for office, sean elsburnd was not the first, actually i think fee i don't evenna may have been one of the first thank i have reached out to talk to and he brought me into his office and it was around september of 2009 and i said, sean i'm thinking about running for supervisor and he said mal lea are you sure? and then he showed me his bar of scotch. and is this not public information -- i'm sorry -- my apologizes and he sat me down for a couple of hours and walked neither through the ins and outs of what to did and he said get out there and when you come out you come out strong and i took his advise and definitely credit that advis

the board and no rebuttal. please speak into the microphone. to assist the board in the proper notes you are asked to submit a speaker card when you come up to speak. the board welcome yours comments and suggestions. there are customer satisfaction forms on the podium for your convenience. if you have questions about requests a rehearing the board's rules or hearing schedules please speak to board staff during a break or after the meeting or call or visit the board office. this meeting is broadcast live on sfgovtv cable channel 78 and rebroadcast on friday's at 4:00 p.m. on channel 26. dvds of this meeting are available for purchase at sfgovtv. we'll know swear in and afiscal year all those who we are to testify this evening. if you wish to have the board give your testimony evidenciary weight please stand, right your right hand and say i do after you having sworn-in or affirmed. any member of the public may speak without taking oath under the sunshine ordinance. do you settlemently swear or affirm that any testimony that you give is the truth, the whole truth and

the board. assuming you would certify the document. when it gets to the board, the board would be required before it approves the project, to affirm that certification, which is exactly what it does when it hears an appeal. it gives it -- it affirms the action taken by this body. so, i think as supervisor wiener explained, it's essentially an automatic appeal. so, if they have to approve the project, it would go to them. the c-e-q-a issue would go to them along with the -- whatever the approval action related to the project that they're being asked to take, they would consider them together through their normal processes ann marie explained. and before they approve the project, if they decide to approve the project, they would have to affirm the c-e-q-a decision that was made by the planning commission. >> but doesn't that -- i don't know what the state law says. but other people have claimed that that skirts the state law because the state law says a certification can be appealed to the legislative body. >> only if it's not -- if they're not the final decision

i would want to know that the rent board has -- and one person referred to the rent board considering harassment, i'm sure the rent board has considered harassment, but the question is whether the rent board has considered and commented on this particular piece of legislation. so i am just surprised the rent board wasn't here today to make comments on the legislation so i'd be interested in hearing from the rent board about that. so i'm inclined to support the motion. >> thank you, supervisors. let me also thank everyone for testifying today and thank supervisor olage and the housing organizations for bringing an issue forward that many of us know anecdotally and with stories of friends and others that have faced harassment. i do know it's a real issue in the richmond district but also throughout the city and i do know how challenging it is to get data on information and even to know the subjective line of what is harassment and what may be a landlord requesting basic information or having some legitimate need to communicate to a tenant that may be perceived as harassment