but, because we are doing two year budget cycling the lastier's budget had the money and this year's budget didn't and i did not want to hire someone for a position that would terminate at the end of the fiscal year in which they were hired and had the budget process yielded that funding again this year, i would have been, and let me use the word of filling the position but the money did not materialize so, it was there for much of it was there for the fiscal year that is over but it is not there in this fiscal year. >> as we go through many of these meetings, often times we talk about, we talk about the fact that certain actions are not taken because of we don't have enough staff. because we don't hear from you and every department says that. >> sure. >> and that is true. >> and so, here we have a situation where we have a staffing need for an investigator and it is in the budget, but there is no money that is being aportioned by the city to pay for it. what are we doing to get the money. >> well when we go to the appropriation's process every year, the budget process, i should not c

no one gets anything from the budget analyst, and you are wrong. and i would suggest, and i would really advise you to and work on the aspect of that. >> and i would have to say that i spend my year, defending the budget to the budget analyst so that they don't recommend the cuts in it and that is the process in my experience. and i don't want to use the term back door to scribe anything that the ethic commission does and i will see what and it shows, because if you look at our budget today as opposed to when i started here, it is significantly different. >> okay. >> but, there is nothing wrong with back dooring the budget analyst, because that is the name of the game, and not just to send in the budget and argue in front of the finance committee because by that time, everything is pretty much a done deal. >> i appreciate that and i have sat through the budget hearings every year that i have been here and i have never seen the budget analyst recommend an increase. so i will have to go back and look at how that works. >> it works. >> okay. >> and i w

he promised the american people a budget surplus in 1960 and on that rock the presidential aspirationsrichard nixon would soon founder. what could possibly be wrong with a budget surplus? the prosperity that began with the end of world war ii continued through the eisenhower years with only minor interruptions. but 1958 seemed to be a sharp step backwards the deepest recession since the 1930s. the government pumped money into the economy to stimulate a quick recovery, spending on such projects as the interstate highways program. this spending during a recession was called a counter-cyclical policy -- and it worked. by 1959 the economy was improving. president eisenhower wanted to leave office with a balanced budget so he began to push hard for a surplus in 1960. but vice-president nixon was running for president that year. he wanted a growing economy, so he argued for a deficit. many economists agreed with nixon, but ike stuck to his guns. his chairman of the council of economic advisors raymond saulnier remembers the pressure. you don't have any problem with how much money is going to

president i still remember when we passed the budget out of committee i forgotten the last budget i remember the look on our face it was either the sadness or relief or both i've seen monique getting upset about a policy i'm not the going to say what it is but it showed her absolute passion for the city and for the future of the city i also, we sometimes there's a lot and this was true in all government by especially in san francisco a lot of potshots and city hall and the government so the way we the choices we make about spending money and the size of the budget but what a lot of people don't realize as many champions and there are many there's ways to improve our budget and how we spend money we in a number of different areas san francisco is so far ahead of a lot of cities whether or not the capital planning process or the reserve policies or policies around issuing bonds or not raising property tax but one of the ways we're incredible strong is the controller's office i think that most people don't understand what a crucial rule the controller's office plays in keeping us on track in te

president i still remember when we passed the budget out of committee i forgotten the last budget i remember the look on our face it was either the sadness or relief or both i've seen monique getting upset about a policy i'm not the going to say what it is but it showed her absolute passion for the city and for the future of the city i also, we sometimes there's a lot and this was true in all government by especially in san francisco a lot of potshots and city hall and the government so the way we the choices we make about spending money and the size of the budget but what a lot of people don't realize as

and the house can't come to a budget. so we have all of these demands and are not airing the issues we need to speak about in order to make those sort of budgeting priorities. >> trivedi: the question was should we slim down the military budget and i am looking forward to answer the questions and not speaking general platitude and talk about spick policies i support. i think there is a lot of waste, abuse and excess in the general defense department. i saw some of the access. there are million and even billion weapon systems that will never see the light of day. contractors who have their claws in the pentagon. >> moderator: let me sharp n the question. if the percentage of government outlay is smaller than it was years ago and continues is that the right way? >> trivedi: as long as it isn't cutting had troops but the projects. i was on a project building a new destroyer class, ten year project and five years in they burned up all of the money and the contractor comes back and says they need more money, we had half the shi

the budget. and i want to say that i was facing a $1 billion plus deficit. most importantly, we were able to balance the budget without any layoffs. really was about focusing on eliminating suspensions of business to business taxes. it was about increasing taxes on the wealthy, being selective of how he would do that. most importantly, it really was about cutting the budget. after a pleasure request by more than a billion dollars. really is about having discipline, and i have always believed to walk the talk, to like it will apply done rather than what they say, and i have four years' proven what i would do to. >> could not answer none of the above. the better it is time for the kendis to ask each other a question. once again, we have allotted a one minute response time. your question? >> we just talked about taxes. so how can the people of hawaii to us that you will not raise taxes and/or increase the cost of living but yet you did so as mayor when you raise the taxes paid now you are promoting a

we have more money than what is in the budget. take it from the tax breaks. a real budget going. congress working. >> all right. gary, you are last. >> allocate money. >> a couple points. first, i just finished a set of pickle ball, so i'm feeling better about my health. >> i don't even know what that is. >> is it an inning? who knows. i agree with tracy. every government agency in the united states has a slush fund. it's called government ineptitude. as an example of the obamacare website, the website alone cost $840 million to date. don't you think we could have gone to five kids at cal tech and said here's $1 million, design a website. i bet they would have come up with it in a week and we would have $839 million left to spend on fighting ebola. look, the money that is in obamacare, if you went to every person, every department running this and say look, can you cut back 5%? they could find the money there. just due to inefficiency. just the website for an example. obama is asking for $88 million. it's nothing. we don't find it in obamacare, we could find

the issue is spending. we are spending more than we are budgeting. kly we don't have the transparency that you expect to see month-to-month from the department and the legislator has complained about it, they have been complaining about it since the spring. frankly they suggest that this is a bipartisan budget and frankly, it is not true. senate republicans created and passed this budget. >> moderator: a short answer to the governor. hassan: they voted 24 to nothing for this budget and that is a bipartisan budget and i will add to the extent that the republicans in the senate are complaining about the budget, they are the ones who didn't use their last target by a margin. >> moderator: let's switch gears >> in less than two weeks, massachusetts voters will be asked about online gambling to be licensed and next year. if they agree to support them, how are they going to be able to make the case? the one high and facility here in new hampshire being a reliable source of revenue. hassan: thank you for the question. since working with members of both parti

we have more money than what is in the budget. take it from the tax breaks. a real budget going. congress working. >> all right. gary, you are last. >> allocate money. >> a couple points. first, i just finished a set of pickle ball, so i'm feeling better about my health. >> i don't even know what that is. >> is it an inning? who knows. i agree with tracy. every government agency in the united states has a slush fund. it's called government ineptitude. as an example of the obamacare website, the website alone cost $840 million to date. don't you think we could have gone to five kids at cal tech and said here's $1 million, design a website. i bet they would have come up with it in a week and we would have $839 million left to spend on fighting ebola. look, the money that is in obamacare, if you went to every person, every department running this and say look, can you cut back 5%? they could find the money there. just due to inefficiency. just the website for an example. obama is asking for $88 million. it's nothing. we don't find it in obamacare, we could find

you praised the ryan budget in "the philadelphia inquirer." >> your view of the ryan budget is what? py to address the subject. what i think that we need to focus on is balancing a budget within a certain number of years. my opponent has offered nothing. nothing but criticism. >> what i support right now. let me know when i'm able to speak again. >> how about the paul ryan budget. >> vote yes or no on the paul ryan budget? >> very happy to address the subject. what i do at the county level is quarterly have budget meetings, look at what's coming in and look at what's going out. this month i'll pass another budget in chester county, 0% tax increase. what i'm not going to do is go back in time and look at a budget that made its way through the house that isn't being taken up by the senate from a democratic opponent who has offered nothing in terms of what kind of budget he'd vote for. that's just silly political stuff. let's address the fact that our budget, budgeting process is broken in washington, d.c. >> and you're saying the budget is not on the table anyway? >> it's not. let's fur

budget to a surplus. my agency has carefully and responsibly managed the fiscal year 14 budget to be their efficiency targetate government already has efficiency targets. we already beat that expectation over the last year. it's really important for people to understand that in addition to these efficiency targets my opponent would have a 90 million-dollar hole in the budget in addition to that. this. havenstein: 2.5% efficiency goals are to accommodate the tax reductions on businesses that are essential structurally. i would also suggest the governor's inaccurate when she said she met her 2014 budget. she didn't. she failed by at least $7.5 million in terms of the surplus that was expected and has identified $40 million overspending and health and human services for 2015. so frankly my view of her fiscal responsibility she has not earned his second term. >> moderator: governor do you want to respond? hassan: we managed the budget surplus. it has been approved by a bipartisan group of legislators both senators and house members. we agreed on those. we managed to surplus. we beat our efficiency expectations

bustos: i will address the budget. first of all, i voted in favor of the first bipartisan budget agreement in many, many years. was democrat paul ryan and patty murray coming together who came up with the budget. that is a budget that i voted for. and thin to support something like sequestration where it impacts our community to the tune of $100 million that is the votes in my opinion. >>moderator: the end of our questions but we do have 90 seconds to make a closing statement. bustos: you handled this honorably and i appreciate that and also to be engaged. this is a question of priority i will fight for the middle-class families. my opponent on the other hand, he and his allies ship jobs overseas and made to fight for middle-class families. mix of priorities and will continue to make sure i've fight for those on medicare and social security including my mom and for the right priorities for this district. i will continue to do that. we have to address the deficit. for government waste and abuse i also know and to deliver

the budget. they cannot leave home without it. 49 states have that requirement. but washington, d.c. doesn't. so that is the battle we face in that culture in washington. these career-politicians have been there too long and we need to change the house and senate by electing more men and women. >> isn't that bill just symbolic? there is really no teeth in it and in fact congress still gets paid if it passes because it only reduces a portion of the salary. so the ad is false in that respect. >> no, it would impact the current and future congress. that is why we have resistance from members of congress. we had discussions and they said that might mean i don't get paid. that is exactly the reason i in introduced that bill. because if congress refuses to balance the budget they will not get paid. we need to hit members of congress in their pocket books because they are hitting us in their pocket book. >> amanda, a quick rebuttal. >> i don't know if you are familiar with the average earnings in congres

congress's number 1 job is the to make sure we pass a budget. the no budget, no pay act hanging over us, saying angress, if you don't pass budget, you don't get paid, we passed a bipartisan budget for years.st time in many >> can i get a 30-second rebuttal? >> you both have had it. right there. i do want to move on. we're going to start with mrs. bustos. healthto do with a concern that a lot of americans are having worldwide. ebola. the centers for disease control -- has repeatedly warned us. they've toldime, us not to panic. now homeland security will start arypts.g at are you -- at airports. are you confident the government spread of thee virus in the united states and are you worried they might civil liberties in the process? >> it's a health threat that's very frightening to a lot of people. a lot of time talking to a lot of people. i would ask people, just in worriedtion, are you about this? we have moms of little kids who worry about the ebola threat. we have to respond to this with a sense of urgency. we are part of the the ice is part of

the public money but we're able to allocate that to other agencies. >> other agencies part of the city budget for whatever it might be are having to spend money stay great cost per tree because they don't have the in-house staff. >> that's valid. >> hi carla when our talking about transferring trees back to other agency when was that transfer made. >> it was done in fiscal year 2013-2014 and after we transferred trees to residential owners or homeowners. >> yeah. it's concurly we identified the trees adjacent to other city agencies but we're continuing to transfer trees to adjacent property owners and presumably if we come across other tree that is a city agencies responsible we'll transfer that. >> when the trees are transferred and accident homeowners are unable to pay is there some kind of a special program for a senior new tree owner. >> we've investigated this and worked with we have a program for sidewalk repairs for low income property owners it is a loan program but very if i people take advantage of this to qualify for the program you own property few people quality under the regulat

less than 1.7% of the budget goes to agriculture. so how can you expect them to do these type of enforcement programs or promote agriculture? i want to bring it up from where it is in the back seat, put it up front, support it and if we're going to label, it should come from the federal government so that we are all on a level playing field throughout america and not just high. >> thank you all. lets talk about taxes. mr. aiona. every governor since george ariyoshi has faced a fiscal crisis. if you run into a fiscal crisis, which of these would you put into place first? >> you know, i'm the only one here who's had the opportunity and experience that to have been through something very difficult on the fifth floor in the executive branch. we saw the bottom fall out of the economy. some difficult decisions had to be made. in response to that specific question, obviously what i stated earlier. we need to grow the economy. we grow the revenue that way. i'm not an advocate of growing our revenue by way of taxes. i think you've seen that in

the budget. the last two years of your diminished ration. you gave us furlough fridays and withheld tax refunds from the taxpayer and you stopped paying bills. how do you decide when to support and stand by the governor and when to say you are just an observer? >> let me start with furlough fridays. i find it very interesting that the very union that agreed to furlough fridays is now upset about it. why only now? it took to to agree to furlough fridays. this was not a unilateral decision made by governor lingle. second, in regards to balancing the budget, let it be known that it is the executive branch that submits the budget. it is the legislature that approves the final budget so any balancing has to go through the legislature. if you was one of 76, why did he let that happen? why did he let the mechanisms not happen? and why aren't you asking these me? it is incumbent is a that your administration would be like the abercrombie administration because he is the lieutenant governor. >> it is very

is about $30 million that's included in the green house budget. >> great mr. rose your report for item 2. >> mr. chair and members of the commission we note the approval of the contract is required by the state in order for the green house communicated health services to receive the federal and state fund to provide services with persons of mental illness and substance abuse we report that the board of supervisors previously appropriates the fund and the applicable state and federal fund in table 2 on page 18 of the report we recommend you, you approve this resolution. >> thank you, mr. rose colleagues questions he we'll open this up for public comment is there any member of the public who wishes to speak on items two or three. >> 3 days ago i just received number 17 invitation letter only to be after him this is an old-time all the south people love it so much i'm occasionally the international united nation ambassador for the airport so i feel but about mental health that's the issue this is what you call the mental whole i didn't way of first special soul th

the defense budget was increased substantially. but it's important to understand what that money doesn't do. it did not rebuild the military as was needed. instead it was eaten up by the cost of the wars. by the greater maintenance needs of an aging inventory. it is an illusion to think after the war spending increases that we have seen over the past decade and more that we as a nation are better position when it comes to our national defense. in fact, the reverse is true. by the time president obama had taken office, the american military was an increasingly fragile condition. the navy had fewer ships than anytime since before world war i. the air force inventory was smaller and older since the inception of the service. while the size of the army and marine corps was increased in 2007 to support the surge in iraq, both lacked the personnel they needed forcing far too many units to serve multiit'll tours of duty in iraq and afghanistan and increasing the human cost born by our war fighters. secretary gates identified $400 billion in

the employment rate was 4.8%. i got $70 million out of e-commerce budget. -- out of e-commerce budget. -- the commerce budget. good evening, everyone. issues on the eau claire county ballot next month is the statement on wage. the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. for some money working full time that is $15,000 a year. a complaint was filed under the living wage law recently, saying that $7.25 is not enough to live on, and they rejected that. please tell us if you believe a wisconsin worker can live on our minimum wage? if you believe the state has any obligation to make sure that workers are paid some sort of minimum wage? and if so, what that wage should be? do not think that our minimum wages enough for folks who live on. that is why i strongly support an increase in the minimum wage to the suggested $10.10 an hour over three steps. i have talked of business people, both small and large. they support increasing this. the reason is, first of all, it reduces reliance on government assistance. i want people who work full-time to have the pride of a job and being able to support themselves. at $7.25 an hour, that

analysts response that a lot of money has to be raise in the next several months or the budget analyst acknowledges that half a million dollars many worthy said the the number of proposals were supplied for grant and there's will man ta plan to raise the money what's the plan it's a good idea to brings it back to the board in 6 months. >> i'm happy to speak to that so as part of the approval early this year of the $38,000 that the city committed for moving the design work forward the friends agreed to raise an additional 4 hundred 36 plus a so we're underway that's your immediate priority and the relationship between the city and the agency is incredibly important we have right now proposals out for we're over $400,000 and have one of the proposals concluded the challenge grant so you know those are we won't beat around the bush those will be hard to raise but i think the leverage that the opportunity presents is significant so far we'll have favorable responses in terms of of the invitations so we'll be successful and happy to report back in april. >> business of luck too. >> okay. co

vowed toan ruiz balance the budget. each of us oh $55,000 to pay this debt. in congressman ruiz toss first term he raised $2 billion. billion.o cut $20 legislators to not get paid if the balance -- if the budget is not balanced. he voted for president obama 90% of the time. i have a proven record of being independent. my opponent claims to protect seniors but is reportedly cutting medicare by $700 billion. i will fight to return money to our seniors. like many parents we are concerned about our children's future and their safety. our country is at war. we battle terrorists from overseas and we must also protect our homeland. congressman ruiz proposed a bill that would secure our borders could i would protect our borders. higher -- higher taxes are driving businesses overseas. 80% of new jobs are created by small businesses. i worked to get the government out of the way. that is why i am endorsed by the chamber of commerce and the national federation of independent businesses. the bigger the government, the smaller your paycheck. thank you. >> thank you. mr. ru

stuff i did on the budget as chairman of the budget committee and as omb director working on budget agreements that ultimately helped produce a balanced budget. that felt very good. but i guess, you know, the one thing that is tough to beat is the operation to go after bin laden and helping to put that together, getting the intelligence, doing the work on the operation itself, and then having it all work. >> rose: but you were in charge. >> that's correct. c.i.a. director, it was a covert operation and i was responsible to oversee that. >> rose: what were the toughest moments that night? >> there is no question that when one of those helicopters went down, there were a lot of very nervous people. at the whitehouse, and i was at the c.i.a. this is two helicopters had to go 150 miles into pakistan at night, and hopefully not be detected as they went in. they were followed by thank god by two shinooks that was going as back up. you had two helicopters going in at night followed by two shinooks. we were following the operation and whatoimand there's been a hf heat on the ground and that heat is co

as a presence in the community in the short mulch of times unifying i've been there i sat in on the budget committee i was interested in hearing with the budgetary comments were going to be firsthand i stridden about the k 12 it was hard to wrap my mind around and i got it's as that investment by your need was so unusual in the location what's the cross street on front. >> at our old location was post and there will. >> post and there will i can't imagine someone started over there but the fact you're at this campus that's a struggle for sites and from our first few months and doing well, that when i saw students walking around and had some outside times which was free movement time i want to make sure i'm saying it right. >> the movement break and everyone notes a movement break right now (laughter) i just love to i think from what i've seen and witnessed for myself i'm a strong believer in seeing that for myself i see someone else's interpretation but i want to see it for myself that's why i went without an adult so i could see for myself the natural environment and habitat i like that t

of the budget deficit is still estimated at 4.3% of gdp. is falling far short of the eu target of 3%. under the eu's tighter laws for debt that came into effect last year, they must be below the 3% mark by 2015. friend says it will meet the target but in 2017. tough negotiations lie ahead in brussels. the european commission is set to be prepared to reject france's budget later this month. the same rule stipulates members must get the eu to greenlight their own budgets before their own parliament. a decision to send the budget back to paris could be made by the current commission. >> the former finance minister will also have to answer questions on this issue today. earlier, we spoke to our correspondent in brussels. >> he has to fill out a 22 questionnaire -- 22 question questionnaire. that will determine whether he will be given the job or not. in the questionnaire, he is asked how he will get the budget in order when he did not manage to get his country back on track. and what action should apply to member states? the authority been give

if the department meets its -- stays within its overtime budget, by the end of the year, 38% of the hours of overtime worked will have been worked due to people who are out on disability. and that equates to $3.6 million. out of an overtime budget of $9.5 million, you can see that is quite significant. and if you take those hours and equate them into fte, by the end of the year we'll have 25 fte hours and that is really quite a significant flush. number and to drive this number home, this program has been worsening with time if you compare the same three pay periods to last fiscal year 3300 hours more have been worked -- have not been worked due to disability than '13-14 and if you project that out to the end of the year, that is $1.5 million. so we agree this is an incredibly challenging department that is a problem that is facing our department and in our '15-16 budget we'll be seeking to correct this problem by looking for funding for 25 additional sheriff's deputies to back fill the staff that are unlikely to return. moving on to the second area of inquiry which was the custody functi

>> are you asking before on the balanced budget why the trying to change that aspect. >> i am i mean, i'm asking you from what k 12 do what will you all do to address that issue of i came back to this board for a renewal petition 5 years from now i think the board will sigh in the history we said why you had this issue so i'm asking you all what do i predict since you've seen it as an issue that's at&t's an issue here not a mystery so i'm asking you to think about how are you going do goat through to issue it's not an issue for you all but an issue for this board of education the governing body of the district you are residing in so i'm asking can you share with us some of our thoughts what you would do about this may be you don't have anything i don't want you to make up anything and i think i can only say my thoughts extend to what i said a moment ago it raised it to k-12 it has come up in other places it's confusing so i think that i think my opinion is k-12 needs to get better i've mentioned it k-12 needs to be better at telling its own story about what is doing in its view to inv

we are facing a $1.8 billion deficit going into the next budget. that is not a comeback, and it is not good enough. if we had kept pace with the rest of the country, the economy would be $4 billion bigger. that is money that could be spent in local businesses that and our communities. would be an additional tax base to fund education and infrastructure while reducing taxes. think about what that means for you. a better school for your child, more affordable college education, more economic security for your retirement. tax cuts for millionaires and special interest do not create jobs. growing the middle class and small businesses does. i will put politics aside and focus on what is going to work. i do not care if ideas are republican or democratic, just whether they will get the job done. and i will set a different tone. governor walker's tone has been , in his own words, to divide and conquer. that is not the wisconsin way. i will not only change the tone, i will change the system. there is no way that big-money special interest should have more of

a big piece of the budget and we had talked earlier about the paul ryan budget and what it would do regarding medicare. that was your position as has been reported in 2012. but let's talk about it now as we clarified earlier. how do you reduce medicare spending? >> first, let me go back to the border because he's gone over his time multiple times. there was a bipartisan bill that came out right before they went on recess before they went -- when push comes to shove, mr. barber talks about this but when nancy pelosi told him to line up he said yes, ma'am, and voted against her. this is what is wrong in washington, d.c. people that say one thing and then they vote for something else when the party tells them to line up. i've never supported the medicare voucher system and i've never supported robbing medicare by $716 billion in order to pay for obamacare. and you remember when i called him on this, he doubled down on it and said those are not cuts to medicare. those are over payments to providers, supporting them wholeheartedly. he now knows he has a problem with seniors, and that's why he is o

tennant: there is no one more serious about approving the budget and i am. i've given up to the taxpayers but i will not balance the budget off the back of seeing congresswoman capito has done. it's my priority. her priority as she has shown time and time again is wall street. now, she talks about medicare. she talks a big game but the dangerous budgets that she voted for four times cuts and makes medicare a voucher program where she's handing over to the seniors to say you're on your own when it comes to buying insurance. don't take my word for it. this is the record. the lifetime score they give for the congresswoman capito. she talks about being on the side of seniors are certainly not. she has a lifetime score of 18% for our seniors. that's the proof. >> moderator: secretary tennant, next question is for you. the state court recently ruled five to go nothing to the state election commission which you are a member of and not allowing the republican party to fill the vacancy on the house of the ballot. they said the commission blatantly ignored the law and

i actually came to the board any first year chairing the budget committee and being comfortable depositing doing that because of the working i've done offer the years with you you've made an incredible impact on the city i've mafshd how were you able to have a enpelvic knowledge if i asked any questions upper on top of that that's a rare thing it shows such a dedication to the city and i i know on top of i'm looking you and to your family i want to congratulate you for your decades of service and your work and bringing so many of us up here in the city to be doesn't budget watcheser and look at it for that the best interests of the entire city thank you very much and i look forward to seeing you not as an employee of city hall but in our other works wanting to be involved in organizations that support people entertaining with homelessness and looking forward to seeing you then. >> commissioner chan monique i was dreading that day i worked with you in the mayor's office and then as the atlantic aid staffing and now this rule you've been this instead person with the knowledge and

we were able to cut the budget and remove the funding by about $5 billion. we've also been able to make important fiscal reforms and made the states that are along the way i had to suspend the legislators pay checks including my own and we got the job done for the people. right now the state has a unemployment at its lowest level in six years. jobs are up, unemployment is down and it's a very important that we keep together and work together investing education we've been able to increase the investment in education and that has helped the state grow jobs. the best way to go is to stay in this correction and do the right thing. >> moderator: mr. rauner? rauner: thank you to the people of peoria and the people joining us tonight. i'm here because i would like to work with you. i loved illinois and i would like it to become the best run state in america. i've been blessed in my career for terrific result working for illinois teachers and police officers by investing in the pension money and then giving back to the schools. the red cross, the veteran services.