look, the c.i.a. al intelligence has given intelligence during two wars and was aggressive during the eight years of the bush administration and prevented a second attack. now everyone interrogate something scared to death and nobody is going to do anything that is not exactly by the book and extremely passive and ineffective. secondly, the administration has removed the interrogation of high-level al qaeda out of the c.i.a. it is now going to be housed in the f.b.i. and directed by the white house. that means that if you catch an important terrorist, the c.i.a. is not going to investigate it, and if you catch, you know, a farmer in afghanistan who is driving a consignment of sheep across a war zone and you catch him, well, that's going to be c.i.a. work. it's been cut out of the main human intelligence gathering, and i think if i were head of the c.i.a. as panetta is, who has been trumped and rebuffed and humiliated, had his agency emasculated. he ought to resign on principle. bret: is this a very tou

i mean, the c.i.a. of actually interrogating, doing the interrogation of terror suspects anymore. that has gone to the f.b.i. the other thing you have to remember is this is not a new case. you know, there was a task force in the justice department in the bush administration done by the full-time professional prosecutors who looked into all the interrogations by the c.i.a. interrogators and said there is not enough evidence, that there would be no conviction here, and that the case should be dropped. this case is being reopened by eric holder, and i think entirely for political reasons. shannon: as we're learning more and more about what happened behind the scenes to this point, what do you make of the way it was handled by the administration? >> well, there is a great deal of reports that indicate there is a civil war within the administration over this topic. the key players would be c.i.a. director panetta and attorney general eric holder, holder feeling that he has to represent the notion that you f

and the c.i.a. how much american business will put themselves at risk for no profit motive in order to assist the american intelligence agencies. and i think that this -- what you may be seeing there is a version of trying to protect them from the kind of legal actions or at least public criticism that seems to be more prominent in recent times. as i've said before, the c.i.a. and n.s.a., and the intelligence community, did not live isolated inside the broader american culture. we rely on us as a society to help us achieve our mission. believe me, there's nothing that farious or dark about that, it's something if the story were better known most americans would be very proud of, but there's elements out there who seem to quote/unquote, want to go after anyone that becomes affiliated with us. and so it may have been that caution that caused what you described. >> [inaudible] >> there is transparency and it's a good, but not an absolute good. i mean, everybody has secrets and i could ask you about your

catherine herridge reports on tough times for the c.i.a. >> at c.i.a. headquarters in april, president obama said he was on the agency's team. >> i will be as vigorous in protecting you as you are vigorous in protecting the american people. >> but four months later, after another round of c.i.a. secrets were revealed in this internal report sought by the aclu, and a possible criminal prosecution is looming at the justice department department, some former c.i.a. officers speak of dismay and disappointment. >> the attorney jen general's decision and the context in which this is happening is having a devastating impact on morale. >> bob againier who, spent 27 years at the agency said he worries about the message sent to young officers. >> if they're asked to do that mission and things go bad, the politicians will run for cover and leave these officers holding the bag, facing the music alone. >> fox news spoke to five former c.i.a. officers for this story. most asked to remain anonymous given the sensitivity of the topic and the justice department probe. on

this follows the release of a c.i.a. report that details some of the methods used and says interrogators went too far in an effort to get information. justice correspondent bob orr begins tonight's coverage. >> reporter: the report, written in 2004 by the c.i.a.'s inspector general and released today, says interrogators warned 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed if anything else happen miss the united states, we're going to kill your children. a c.i.a. contractor beat another prisoner with a heavy flashlight. the report notes the detainee died in custody. and abd al-nashiri, the suspected bomber of the "cole" was threatened with a handgun and power drill. the debris from the report says "rey it had drill while the detainee stood naked and hooded." the report says field agents used mock executions and choke holds, but whole sections remain secret. details of the waterboarding of type al qaeda officials are blacked out, released in response to an a.c.l.u. lawsuit, the report shows some interrogators clearly went beyond t

gwen: the loss of a liberal lion plus the justice department versus the c.i.a. and the good news-bad news economy. tonight, on "washington week." thousands of mourners paid respects today to a man who lived the past and looked to the future. >> this november, the torch will be passed again to a new generation of americans. >> ideas and ideals are stamped on scores of laws and millions of lives. gwen: ted kennedy's passing was not unexpected but it leaves a void. on domestic issues like health care. >> my hope is that this will maybe cause people to take a breath, step back and start talking with each other again in more civil tones about what needs to be done. gwen: and on bipartisanship. >> he was never small. and in the process of his doing, he made everybody he worked with bigger. gwen: as massachusetts and the nation mourns, what comes next? in other news, attorney general eric holder goes toe-to-toe with c.i.a. director lee on panetta over detainee interrogations. >> threatening a prisoner with electric drill isn't torture, i'm not sure what is. gwen: how fa

and the c.i.a. how much american business will put themselves at risk for no profit motive in order to assist the american intelligence agencies. and i think that this -- what you may be seeing there is a version of trying to protect them from the kind of legal actions or at least public criticism that seems to be more prominent in recent times. as i've said before, the c.i.a. and n.s.a., and the intelligence community, did not live isolated inside the broader american culture. we rely on us as a society to help us achieve our mission. believe me, there's nothing that farious or dark about that, it's something if the story were better known most americans would be very proud of, but there's elements out there who seem to quote/unquote, want to go after anyone that becomes affiliated with us. and so it may have been that caution that caused what you described. >> [inaudible] >> there is transparency and it's a good, but not an absolute good. i mean, everybody has secrets and i could ask you about your

why he want to have the c.i.a. take all the -- [inaudible] does he think the c.i.a. is not part of darma? and the second is, i would like to clear one thing for me. what i heard is that in the dalai lama time, state and religion is one, and state and religion control the land. and when chinese come in, they distribute all the land to the people. and so when the dalai lama realized this, then he come out reformed. how true is this? >> sure. >> taking the second half first, the form of government that existed in tibetan in 1950, absolutely a theocracy, i mean, government and religion were very closely intertwined. you looked at the monasteries, they were everything from learning centers and universities to part of the banking system and sometimes they helped collect taxes and they became centers of resistance when the fighting actually took place. that said, after the 1950 invasion, i mean, the dalai lama worked on a number of reform attempts with china, his brother had a very ambitious series of reforms he tried to introduce in the mid 1950's in tibetan -- in tibet. i

." >> >> the c.i.a. under the spotlight for prisoner abuse, including threats to the children of the alleged mastermind of 9/11. forensic tests show michael jackson was killed by a lethal dose of the anesthetic propofol. greece, response to wildfires ravaging forests north of athens. my name is mike emblen. coming up later for you, the shifting landscape of china's energy needs, why the country is facing a particular challenge on climate change. why success in japanese politics often means having the right relatives. ♪ >> hello. allegations of prisoners threatened with execution, intimidated with an electric drill. one allegedly told his children would be killed. another that his mother would be sexually assaulted. as new details emerge in the u.s. of the apparent abuse of detainees in the war on terror, a prosecutor has been appointed to investigate c.i.a. agents who may find themselves on trial. high-level terror suspects will now be interrogated by a new unit supervised by the white house itself, but a

he calls the investigation into the c.i.a. purely political and claims president obama, in his words, is not prepared to do what is needed to proect the nation. live in our washington bureau, with the latest. what else did the former vice president say? >> good morning. the former vice president called the investigation of the c.i.a. interrogation technique asterable decision. he thinks it's a political move that the obama administration is caving to pressure from the left wing of the party and think it will be an enormous blow to morale of the c.i.a. more of the interview -- >> it's a very devastating effect, i think, it has on morale inside the intelligence community. if they assume they're going to be dealing with the political consequences -- it's clearly a political move. there is no other rationale for why they're doing this, then they'll be very reluctant. >> of course, what he's talking about is the attorney general's decision last week to investigate c.i.a. interrogate torse for possible de -- interrogators for possibl

or sued. >> are there things you can do that the c.i.a. can't? > there is a world out there and i've talked to my colleagues and having been on the other side of the table i know when their eyes gloss over and i know that mine would have glossed over as well, and i sat with one of your predecessors and they took copious notes and i know that i'd have to rummage through the trash and they thought i was trying to sell some product to them, which i wasn't. there is a world out there of talent and investigative skills that is huge. people that leave all the foreign services and leave the police and people that are journalists and not in the united states, of course, but that are out there and available to collect information. and i have everything from psychiatrists to record tollers and how you get in and swim in that water is not rocket science, how you utilize it is a different, a different matter. there are things that i can do that i don't think that the agents do because of its official position. what do i mean? in russia and china it would be v

we have also learned the c.i.a. director leon panetta will offer financial support to agents involved in the investigation into alleged interrogation abuses of overseas detainees. could the investigation do more harm than good? we're joined by republican congressman ed royce. thank you for your time today. i have to ask you, your initial reaction to the news this week about the investigation launch? >> i agree with leon panetta the c.i.a. director. i think country will pay a price as you said and as you pointed out the career professional looking at this said it was not warranted. it's the political appointee eric holder who is making the decision to prosecute and ross cute those individuals specific -- prosecute those individuals specifically going after the top two terrorists here who gave us information that allowed to us preclude attack on heath row airport and preclude attack on the consulate in karachi and prevented an attack in los angeles with a jetliner. all the information that came out, came out as a resul

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in fact back in 2004 after the c.i.a. inspector general did a report -- and let me make it clear what we're talking about. we're not talking about the entire interrogation program, we're talking about a few cases where a few -- about 10-20, where c.i.a. officers in their interrogations wept beyond what they were legally authorized to do. the justice department investigated all of those cases, decided they were going to prosecute one against a contractor, not an actual c.i.a. officer and they put him in jail. but in all of the other cases they said, either that there wasn't a violation or wasn't something they could successfully prosecute. in fact at the very beginning of the administration, the president said we're not going to do this, but attorney general holder reading the report from five years ago, has decided he'll not prosecute, but begin a preliminary inquiry into whether to prosecute some of the dozen or so cases. >> and how do you think this will affect the relationship between the c.i.a. and the justice departme

bret: coming up, we will discuss whether the just-released c.i.a. documents vindicate former vice president dick cheney's support for enhanced terrorist wren tear gation techniques. we'll be back after the break. geico's been saving people money on car insurance for over 70 years. and who doesn't want value for their dollar? been true since the day i made my first dollar. where is that dollar? i got it out to show you... uhh... was it rather old and wrinkly? yeah, you saw it? >> i have read the documents. the public reports and the public just fictions for these techniques, which is that we got information from these individuals that were subjected to these techniques. it doesn't answer the core question -- which is, could we have gotten that same information without resorting to these techniques? it doesn't answer the broader question, are we safer as a consequence of having used these techniques? bret, well, the documents the president was talking about back in april were the documents requested by former vice president dick cheney. those, at least

the justice department released details of a 2004 c.i.a. inspector general's report detailing chilling interrogation waterboarding. the attorney general ordered and investigation of what happened an appointed a veteran prosecutor to find out. did c.i.a. interrogators go if so, should they be punished? and should bush administration officials who authorized the techniques also be punished? we explore the moral issues with shaun casey, professor of ethics at wesley theological seminary in washington. shaun, welcome. let me take you back to the atmosphere after 9/11. there was tremendous pressure on the administration to prevent another attack, do whatever is necessary, find out whatever they could on if there would be another attack. doesn't that justify the interrogation techniques that were put into place? >> i would argue that it's precisely those moments of crisis that we need to rely on our moral and legal tradition and resist giving up respect and dignity for the human person. i think moral tradition argues that no matter who that person

to have the c.i.a. see this taken away from them i think is outrageous. the attorney general should be reminded we are still a nation alt war and c.i.a. shouldn't stand for "can't interrogate anyone." sean: at page 85, the government in its own report actually admits that the program was more successful, every c.i.a. director said they got more intense, more information, saved more lives than all our intelligence communities combined. i do believe there's a political factor here. as the president is on vacation i believe they want to change the story away from these town halls and their falling poll numbers. you don't think that's a factor? >> it may be, but they're multiplying their troubles. it's other high on the country's list of concerns. but the situation is -- sean: sorry. -- >> i think they're making multiple mistakes all at once. sean: there -- will they be successful in passing this or not? >> i sure hope not, sean. i hope and pray not. sean: thanks for being with us. coming up, the heartbreaking story of a woman who lost her battle against cance

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first, reports that the c.i.a. director may step down. >> dick cheney's not the only one who has doubts about the administration's ability to handle security issues. a report that after a "profanity-laced screaming match," leon panetta threatened to step down as head of the to step down as head of the c.i.a. [ female announcer ] introducing the latest body wash from olay. tone enriching ribbons. two separate ribbons. the white cleanses. the gold moisturizes and has a touch of mineral shimmer to enhance skin's tone. olay tone enriching body wash. for skin that shimmers. bonus on every single purchase. what you do with it is up to you. what will you get back with your cash back? it pays to discover. sean: there's been a great deal of debate in recent weeks about whether so-called death panels are part of this proposed legislation. while democrats continue to deny that such a thing exists, a government-controlled takeover off the health care system has some people skeptical. >> for those of you who still insist death p

is lee on panetta, the c.i.a. director, imtent now? has he lost his batle and now it's all up o holder? >> he mae his case that he thoughthis was the wrong thing to do. it would send a wrong message to c.i.a. eople, tht these thingsere investigated before and it wasn' fair. thehite house basical said to eric hoder, this is your call. you need to cide this. you'rehe attorney general. we can't et involve in making this decisi for you. is your decision. having made the decision n, they made it very cle that it was his and s alone. >> what about all hese documents that we w prts of at east this wek? did they ever did they take very far toward anwering the basic queson of the argument thapeople like dick cheney have been makg which is that ese techniqu, torture, are necessary to elicit the ind of informatio we need to prevent another -- gwen: it did wrd off action. >> there's no qestion. at everyone agrees whathese

for months but in naming a special prosecutor, he's poised cases which dozen alleged could expose the c.i.a. employees to criminal charges. >> america will have adjust -- will have a justice department that is truly dedicated to exactly that, justice. >> reporter: the administration also announced monday it's moving responsibility of questioning from the c.i.a. to the f.b.i. >> intelligence gathering is best left to the intelligence community. this is a way the intelligence community can best operate, especially in these instances. >> reporter: both moves are expected to launch a fresh wave of criticism by former bush administration officials like former vice president dick cheney who have defended the interrogators method. >> i value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al qaeda organization that was attacking this country. >> reporter: justice department officials say a long-time prosecutor in the justice department has been named to lead the probe into the c.i.a. an official announcement is expected later this we

. >> glor: tonight there are new allegation of torture by the c.i.a. "newsweek" magazine is reporting that a secret 2004 report reveals that interrogators used mox executions to intimidate prisoners and a federal judge has ordered the release monday of that five-year-old inspector general's report. earlier today, i spoke with one of the authors the article, "newsweek" investigative correspondent mark hosenbal, and asked about what was in the previously classified document. >> the report is going to reveal for the first time the the c.i.a. conducted what are described as mock execution of some of the high-valued detainees, more than one from the sound of things. and in the case of one detainee that we know about, somebody named abdel-rahman al nashiri, an alleged architect of the uss cole bombing, the report alleged at some point c.i.a. interrogator brandished a gun in front of this guy in an effort to frighten him and took a power drill in front of him and turn turned it on and went bzzz, implying they were going to use it on him. >> glor: does this rep

we learned the c.i.a. longer intergate high-level terrist suspect therwill be a w, special unit to do it which wil answer straight to the white hoe. >> the presint, aftethe consensus recommendation o his interagency task force on interrogations ofdetainees did put in place a new group, the high-valuenterrogation group which llbe house at the f.b.i. >> psident obamas ting to break with his precessor, george bh, trying to wipe out the stai left the persistent allegation that u. soldiers and intelligen officers committedtorture. an allegati evidented by images like the from abu ghraib and allegations that grossly undermined america's moral authority. the president is on holiday tonight with his fily. his admistration is haunted b thctivities of thec.i.a. he said hwants to look forward, not back. but today, it became much harder for him to lay the torture queson to rest. he long, bitter row about inrrogation techniques is already unr way, fueled by the details we're gtting in that newly declassified c.i.a. repo

a report by the c.i.a.'s inspector general released today describes severe tactics idea on terror suspects by interrogators after 9/11 including threats to kill one suspect's children and force another to watch his mother sexually assaulted. in afghanistan accusations of ballot box stuffing and voter intimidations in the wake of the country's second presidential elections. world leaders are now urging patients as an independent commission investigates. both the president and his leading challenger are accusing each other of fraud. hundreds of evacuated after a massive fire at a chemical company in detroit. witnesses heard several explosions inside diversified chemical technologies. investigators confirm tonight an explosion did spark the fire but what set off that explosion isn't clear. the company reportedly made chemicals used by two of the three big automakers. >>> a warning tonight for parents of teenagers. a report is exposing the new drug of choice of america's youth and it might be in your medicine ca

the c.i.a. and israel's spy agency have different estimates. >> the difference is a year or two years as a whole. the american estimation is three years. >> the obama administration wants to negotiate an end to iran's nuclear program, but israel's president told fox news his country has little faith that the u.n.'s nuclear watchdog can stop iran. >> so do you have any confidence in the iaea or its head? >> no, i don't think so. you know, they didn't even discover that there was a nuclear danger in syria. facts are stronger than institutions, and institutions shouldn't lag behind the realities. >> and one of those realities, warns "the wall street journal," is that the moolas ruling iran have decided they have nothing to fear. quote, they've long concluded that the u.n. is no threat as iaea chief has become an apology man for iran's program and can see that the west lacks the will to do anything. on fox news sunday, former vice president dick cheney was asked why the bush administration didn't tak

c.i.a. inpector general's report detaing chilling interrogation techniques, inuding aterboarding. the attorney genal ordered and inestigation of what happened an appointea veteran prosecutor to findut. d c.i.a. interrogators go if so, should they be nished? and should bush adnistration ficials who authorized the teciques also be punished? we explore the moral issu with shun casey, professor of ethic at wesley thlogical seminary in washington. shaun, welcome. t me take you back to the atosphere after 9/11. the was tremendous pressure on the administration to pvent anoer attack, do whatever is necessary, find out atever they could on if there wod be another attack. doesn't that justify the interrogation techniques th were put into pce? >> i would argue th it's precisely thoseoments of crisis that we need to re on o moral and legal tradition and resist giving urespect and dignity for the human pson. think moral tradition argue that no mter who that person is the result dignity is that they should not bsubjected to the pe of torture that went on. >> abernethy: and eveif you're pretty sure

since the use of the waterboard, the c.i.a. inspector general wrote:. and following enhanced interrogation: >> the enhanced interrogation techniques were absolutely eventual in saving thousands of american lives and preventing further attacks against the united states and giving us the intelligence we needed to go find al qaeda, to find their camps, to find out how they were being financed. >> reporter: lost in the political ruckus is the central question: can anybody connected to the harsh interrogation program be successfully prosecuted? career prosecutors who have studied the evidence say they don't think so. harry? >> smith: bob orr in washington tonight, thanks. coming up next on the "cbs evening news," four years of katrina, why are thousands of families still living in trailers? cbs news investigates. (cacophony of sounds) (announcer) excedrin pm. relieves pain fast. plus a sleep aid to help you fall fast asleep. excedrin. what ache? you have high blood pressure... and you have high cholesterol. >>. >> but how close are you to your goals? there ma

the private sector. speakers include former c.i.a. ector michael hayden and former homeland security administer michael chertoff. this is about 10 minutes. and the answer is, no, we thank you all for being here with us today for this joint newsmaker and book and author committee event. i am chair of the newsmaker committee and also washington correspondent for workforce management, a business magazine published by crane publications. and the book and author committee chair is andrew schneider and andrew is over here to my right, he's an associate editor at kipling washington editors. this morning we're going to explore the privatization of intelligence, a topic whose news peg was sharpened to my delight by today's front page stories on the c.i.a. outsourcing 2004 operations designed to kill al qaeda leaders. we have an outstanding panel to delve into this topic. general hayden to my left, he's a retired four-star air force general who served as the director for the national security agency from 1999 to 2005, and director of the c.i.a.

. >> the report is going to reveal for the first time the the c.i.a. conducted what are described as mock execution of some of the high-valued detainees, more than one from the sound of things. and in the case of one detainee that we know about, somebody named abdel-rahman al nashiri, an alleged architect of the uss cole bombing, the report alleged at some point c.i.a. interrogator brandished a gun in front of this guy in an effort to frighten him and took a power drill in front of him and turn turned it on and went bzzz, implying they were going to use it on him. >> glor: does this report make an investigation by attorney general holder more likely? >> attorney general holder in an interview with some of my colleagues at "newsweek" and other statements for the last two or three months has been making pretty strong hints he does want to conduct a criminal investigation of whether officials at the c.i.a. exceeded justice department guidelines laid dun by the bush administration. >> glor: mark hosenball, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> g

the report alleges c.i.a. ents threatened to kill the children of the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. another detainee was told his mother and family would be sexually abused in front of him. to investigate some of those older cases, the justice department appointed federal prosecutor john durham to lead a probe of possible anti-torture violations during the bush administration. to begin our lead story, i'm joined by mark hosenball of "newsweek." >> welcome to the program. >> thank you. >> suarez: does the content of the documents released today take us much beyond what we already knew in the years after the september 11th terrorist attacks? >> not usually. it certainly doesn't take us beyond what we knew following the release earlier this year by the obama administration of those justice department memos which actually told the cia what enhanced interrogation techniques they could use and how to carry them out. >> suarez: so it filled in the picture more. >> it filled in the picture and it goes somewhat beyond

intelligence sharing with the pakistanis that down the road could lead to eventually getting the man that the c.i.a. simply refers to as number one. chris: jennifer griffin reporting for the pentagon. thanks for that. by the way, national security advisor general james jones is my guest this week on fox news sunday. we will ask him about the situation in pakistan and bill clinton's trip to north korea. check local listings for when we're on in your area. three brittish power troopers and an americans service member were killed in taliban attacks today in afghanistan. 19 coalition troops have died in just the first week of august after at least 75 were killed in july. tonight, correspondent greg palkot rides along with marines through one of the most dangerous parts of that country. >> solemn words from the marine chaplain in helmand province. >> we watch that you -- we ask that you watch over this convoy. >> for good reason, these marines are driving into taliban country, driving a convoy to a new post in a northern town. >> do your part and make sure that everyone comes back. hoorah. >> hoorah! >>

but it was the national security team of the white house and the c.i.a. that briefed him twice before he left. shepard: of course most people knew this was not an entirely preefrt mission, that -- private mission that the white house was trying to paint it especially with the touchy situations with the north koreans. >> that's right. and he had three hours and 15 minutes sitting with kim jong il so it is hard to imagine the nuclear issue didn't come up. it was private from the point of view it was a private plane donated by steven bing the billionaire who is a big democratic donor and supporter. the u.s. military helped in refueling but that was the extent of their support. shepard: who was on the plane? >> john podesta, a lawyer, friend of clinton. he was there. we are told he had to argue before the north korean court for the women to come home so he provided a service as a lawyer. there was a doctor to check the girls' health. we understand that the doctor forgot his passport so the military had to help him get one en route. shepard: jennifer griffin at

the c.i.a. wouldn't talk to us about their operations. argues that the ability of these planes to sit over a target for extended periods makes them more precise than piloted planes. the crews spend hours studying suspected insurgents. they've just seen these men ambush u.s. troops. the pilot can take them out and still make it home in time for dinner. we joined lieutenant colonel gough one morning as he headed to work to ask him what that's like. >> gough: to go and work and do bad things to bad people is... and then when i go home and i go to church and try to be a productive member of society, those don't necessarily mesh well. >> logan: does it feel strange compared to being deployed? >> gough: yeah. when you drive past las vegas and look down to the strip, and turn the corner and head north to... to the base, you're leaving one world and you're going to the other. you know, we go from being parents and spouses to being warriors. >> logan: colonel chambliss and his wife, linda, have been juggling that lifestyle for two years. it's sort

was the c.i.a. outsourcing the jobs of killing top terrorists? we'll break that story down, and there has been plenty of killing leading up to killing leading up to bret: election workers in afghanistan are counting million of votes cast in today's election. the voting came off despite warnings of taliban interference. correspondent greg palkot has the story from kabul. >> it's election day in afghanistan. folks here are deciding whether president karzai will get a second term in office. there are crowds early at the school turned polling station in eastern kabul. young people -- >> this is an historic day for me. >> old people -- >> this is a good day for afghan people and a good chance for democracy for afghan people. >> and most strikingly, women showing up without the burqa, which the taliban used to make them wear. >> i'm very happy and feeling very good, says this young woman. i'm able to come and vote for our president. >> this election was conducted under the threat of taliban violence, however, prompting a major afghan-led security effor

operatives. >> because of the review of the intelligence program, senior intelligence officials say that the c.i.a. director panetta has decided to cover the legal fees for people involved. it is viewed as the further opposition to the attorney's decision. >>> and paper written years past explained a posion tonight. bob mcdonald wrote the paper as a master's thesis, it says that working women are wrong to do so. and bob mcdonald said the views on the issues have changed as he got older and believes that people in virginia will vote based on other moments. one spokesperson says that bob mcdonald supports and champions working moms. he is a true friend to the working mothers of virginia. he ran his 2005 campaign for attorney general while raising her two-year-old daughter. >>> and still ahead at 10:00, the space shuttle discovery hooking up. >> and the astronaut from northern virginia on board as well. >>> plus, one redskins quarterback going through a lot of emotions. dave ross on deck to explain coming up next. . >>> the team -- the redskins, i got it wrong. >>> one guy wanting to stick around, da

do you want to be in charge of the c.i.a. you have the speaker of the house calling you liars, number one, and really -- they didn't really ever settle that whole thing. they sort of let her skirt away with that. then you have now an investigation coming? dave: into our interrogators, the members trying to keep our country safe. gretchen: then he's going to be responsible for keeping this country safe? i don't think i'd want to be leon panetta now. brian: many people believe he shouldn't have been named to the job, has no experience. this could really cut his knees out. we'll see. 18 minutes before the top of the hour. here's what's straight ahead. doctors hesitant to give their prescription pad over to the government. can you blame them? why the president is offending some health care professionals. dave: then, are you prepared for a terrifying disaster like if your plane was hijacked? >> move to the back of the plane! move it! move it! dave: frightening. the crucial tips you need to know to survive worst case scenarios from

i worry about the more al and effectiveness of the c.i.a.. i worry about this thing getting out of control and us harming our ability to carry on the struggle that we're in with radical islamic extremism. look, i was radically opposed to it. i think it harmed us. i think torturing harmed us. i have a number of anecdotes that could substantiate that. i think it harmed our image in the world but for us now to go back i think would be a serious mistake. >> schieffer: the president had said that he wanted to go forward but this apparently is a decision made by the attorney general. and the president i guess says he's going to go along with it. >> well, the attorney general has a unique position in the cabinet obviously. he can't be told what to do by the president of the united states but i think it's a mistake. i think in the future we'll find its a mistake. at the same time we can assure the american people that it will never happen again. and people in the world that has harmed our image so badly. >> schieffer: do you agree with the vice presid

you've done this before with the fbi and the c.i.a. and now the secret service.hock you more than others what you found on the inside. >> this is probably the most shocking, the cutting of corners, when democracy depends on the ability to elect our leaders and have them serve a full term. and if there is an assassination it nullifies democracy. and so what could be more important than the secret service doing their job. the agents are dedicated and take a bullet for the president. it's the management at fault. >> the book is called in the president's secret service. award winning journalist ron kessler, thank you for joining us. >>> it is now 76 degrees, 7:41. up next, a rescue. what it took to get him out. >>> and redskins training camp. while they are battling the intense heat, they are also dealing with the injury bug. we're coming right back.  >>> 76 degrees at 7:44. this is a baby elephant stuck in a man hole in thailand. it fell into a drainage ditch and got stuck it. two took rescuers three hours and some help with heavy earth moving equipmento get it loo

the mastermind before 9/11 is now being called the c.i.a.'t source, that's a quote, on al-queda. according to "the washington post," the c.i.a. says it began getting information from him after he was subjected to waterboarding and sleep deprivation, this after obama orders a review of interrogation techniques of the c.i.a. in the days and months after 9/11. >> the tea party express is rolling through the country this morning. the anti-tax caravan, that's sacramento heading to washington d.c. the focus, government-run healthcare. >> regulated to death. everybody's scared to death. >> we have no jobs. i haven't worked all year. >> our freedoms and liberties are at stake. >> that tractor better have another gear. it's going to take a long time to get to washington. the tea party express arrives in d.c. on september 12th. >> overnight we learned adam goldstein was found dead in his apartment in new york city. they found a crack pipe and prescription drugs nearby. you remember he survived a plane crash last year that left four dead. he was known f

he predicted that the review of c.i.a. interrogations would be devastating to morale at the agency. and accusing the obama administration of political pressure to the left. to elect a special prosecutor would be up to a them but the ultimate authority should lie with the president. >> he has backed off and disclaiming he is not responsible. i just think high is trying to duck the responsibility for what is going on here. i think it's wrong. >> bush administration guidelines gave interrogators the ability to use water boarding that some consider torture. cheney says that kept the country safe from terrorist attacks but they question the value of the interrogation techniques. >> if you inflict enough pain on anyone they will tell them anything to make the pain stop. so you not only get right information but you also get a lot of wrong information. the damage that it did to america's image in the world is something we're still on the way to repairing. >> reporter: senator mccain opposed to the interrogation methods but he says it's a serious mistake on open the investigation because it

meanwhile, he wants to go after the c.i.a., the people trying to protect us.i want to balance this thing as unbelievable. i don't know. when i saw it during the campaign, i didn't understand it, the civilian army. glenn: right, i'm like you. somebody please explain what that meant. >> then i see there is this bill in congress that says we will ask people to volunteer to serve for ten years in the government and then we will pay off their college loans. well, i was on the board of the u.s. military academy at west point. we paid everyone -- we took all their room, board, education and stipend for four years and you had to serve five back to your country. i don't know what ten years is, unless that's permanent. i want to know where this comes from. the problem is there is so much going on that you have talked about, these connections to people, and i keep saying, but people in my own party better pay attention, because i hope it's not the president. i think he is literally being sabotaged. there is somebody else driving another bus here. glenn: control room, can