>> reporter: the c.i.a. y together in operations like the bin laden raid. it wasn't like that at the beginning. >> the whole u.s. military was caught flat footed. i don't think anyone had ever raised the issue how do we go into afghanistan? >> reporter: the c.i.a. team linked up with fighters from the northern alliance who were trying to break through taliban front lines and head for kabul. they couldn't do it without u.s. air strikes. who's directing the bombing? >> nobody was calling the shots. it was almost useless bombing. because it... we really weren't impacting the front lines which is where the taliban fighters were hunkered down. >> reporter: it took another two weeks for american special forces to arrive from w laser devices to pinpoint the targets. then the bombing finally began shifting to the front lines. once it did... >> our guys were listening to the radios and the panic, the screaming, the shouting as bunkers down the line were going up from 2000 pound bombs, i mean, they were just simply dev

pakistan, began this vaccination campaign, this hepatitis b vaccination campaign, at the behest of the c.i.a., who wanted to get into the compound in which they believed osama bin laden was in. now, it's not believed that he was able to obtain those d.n.a. samples. apparently one nurse was able to get into the compound, but not to take samples. but, even then, the pakistani authorities rounded up a large number of people actually after that raid in which bin laden was killed. dr. afridi being one of them. he is just one of those who remain in custody. now the abbottabad commission says a case of conspiracy against the state of pakistan, and, as you say, high treason, should be launched against him. >> the latest there from pakistan. now, we're going from one set of nobel peace prize winners to one individual laureate, because in south africa, archbishop desmond tutu has been celebrating his 80th birthday. it's been quite a celebration. we've had all sorts of superstars appearing on the screen, but there's also been a church service in the course of the last few hours. at st. george's cathedr

do you want to turn it over to the pentagon or the c.i.a. or the t.s.a.?nd see how good they are snont you won't worry that the states would develop their own mechanisms. >> let's hope the people would work on it and make it, you know, due... decent. that was the wonderful part about our country. look how the financial systems in some of the mid western states destroyed their jobs and they moved south because they had more favorable conditions for working conditions and less taxes. so people migrated down. but unfortunately the whole country.... >> jon: now it's a global correction. we have to go down all the way to like china. >> what has happened is that we've undermined our whole environment. our monetary system, our tax system. the regulatory system. so there's no place to go. so they do go overseas. we've chased our jobs overseas. that's strongly related to the monetary system too. when you print money it's a good export. just export our money. as long as they take it, we can buy stuff for free. that's our big problem. >> jon: listen, it's always grea

government, if the president wants to kill osama bin laden he gives an order to the c.i.a. that's correct and the secretary of defense and that goes through the channels of government. the iranian government is split between the government that's in a secular form which is the president and the prime minister and their legislature but the really governments the -- this is launcd by the irish government -- iranian got without a lot -- >> charlie: you were telling me about the iranian killed at a berlin restaurant in 1992. you have contacts, extensive contacts. >> based on what i know from the pattern of iran's behavior since 1980, none of this is unusual and there is great precedence for everything that we find in this story. first of all this is not the first time iran has had, has tried to conduct an operation here in washington d.c. in 1980 iran conducted the operation against a former deputy of the shah in the suburbs of maryland. and there's also precedence for iran wishing to assassinate a former saudi ambassador. in fact, in 1990, there was an assassation attempt by a

>> he spent 47 years in the c.i.a.. he was the first to identify alaki as a threat to the u.s. >> i believee became radicalizing radicalize had and with a certain power of way of presenting his brand of extremism to young people n here in the united states. >> did he have a demanding personality. >> i would hate to use those words but, yeah, he was very charismatic. >> every person will have two wives. >> his specialty is painting very elaborate graphic picture of the carnal pleasures that await the martyrs in paradise. >> two wives in paradise but he preaches a different story. >> that is disgusting. whole thing is disgusting. >> so where are we right now. >> we have to hit oklahoma boulevard which apparently somebody found entertaining. >> what he found very entertaining a local hooker, but he was arrested twice in san diego, 1996 and in 1997 for soliciting prostitutes. and there is more. >> he was picked up for loitering around a school. >> so what was this like in 1996 2000. >> do you remember where he was picked up

allowing the detainee issue to deny the c.i.a. the authorization they need to protect us all is dangerous. to put the men and women's needs in uniform in terms of their health care, their pay, their ability to take care of their families, secondary to detainee policies that make no sense driven by the far left in this country is what this debate is about. well, to the white house, we're not going to change this bill. mr. mcconnell: would the senator yield for a question? mr. graham: yes. mr. mcconnell: then am i correct, i would say to my friends from south carolina and new hampshire and arizona, that because of the administration's opposition to a detainee treatment provision that was, i gather, approved overwhelmingly in the armed services committee, we will for the first time deny everybody in the senate an opportunity to offer any amendments on any subject to the d.o.d. authorization bill and in fact will not consider it on the floor of the senate for the first time in four decades? mr. graham: the minority leader is absolutely

and the concern also is that these drone attacks are apparently from the reports being managed by the c.i.a., not by military personnel. soldiers are allowed under the rules of war to engage in combat against those who are bee ledge rents but does this apply to the c.i.a.? and how does this authority apply in yemen or somalia or other places where we are using this? this broadly stretches any kind of legal justification, and i think goes beyond what is permissible under the rules of war. and under our own legal standards and principles. and moreover these weapons are, i think, perpetuating the illusion that we can defeat terrorism with military force. we should know by now that this cannot be done. we need to prey tekt ourselves, yes. security measures are part of the mix but ultimately terrorism is is a political phenomenon. it must be defeated by political means through bargaining and negotiation, through police work, law enforcement. it will not be defeated through military attacks. the more we use the drone, the more we increase animosity towards our countries. >> brown: and i want to g

organizations that did, is listen to the dissenting voices inside the bush administration, particularly at the c.i.a., who thought the evidence that iraq had a weapons of mass destruction program was very flimsy indeed and instead, we let the war of other top government officials drown out those voices and it was not a moment of glory, broadly speaking. tavis: some argue in retrospect that the media gave mr. obama a pass. that a few years ago everybody seemed to want him to win, hence all of these accusations of the so-called liberal media bias. your thoughts about that and how you think the times is going to cover successfully this race for the white house? >> we have always been equal opportunity tough at the "new york times." during the 2008 campaign, we ransom investigative stories that the obama campaign definitely did not care for and we have had very sober assessments of his performance in the white house and will cover the campaign the way we always cover campaigns. we get behind the curtain and dig and look at the donors and what the candidates are saying and truth tests of statements. tavi

. >> a secret memo shows the justice department gave the c.i.a. approval to kill anwar al-awlaki, a charismatic u.s.-born cleric and al-qaeda operational leader. the memo, placing al-awlaki on a "kill or capture" list, calling him a combatant targeting u.s. citizens -- that took away his protection, says an american. the justice department justifying his killing as an act of self-defense. awlaki was killed in a c.i.a.-led drone strike on september 30th. he's been connected to the fort hood shooting and failed underwear-bomb attack. israel welcomes parts of an international proposal to resume long-stalled peace talks with the palestinians. the plan, by mid-east mediators known as the "quartet," calls for a peace deal in a year and asks both sides to produce comprehensive proposals on territory and security within three months. israeli officials expressing concern about the plan's timetable. palestinians vowing not to return to talks unless israel freezes settlement building and accepts the pre-1967 war borders. defense secretary leon panetta says th

allowing the detainee issue to deny the c.i.a. the authorization they need to protect us all is dangerous. to put the men and women's needs in uniform in terms of their health care, their pay, their ability to take care of their families, secondary to detainee policies that make no sense driven by the far left in this country is what this debate is about. well, to the white house, we're not going to change this bill. mr. mcconnell: would the senator yield for a question? mr. graham: yes. mr. mcconnell: then am i correct, i would say to my friends from south carolina and new hampshire and arizona, that because of the administration's opposition to a detainee treatment provision that was, i gather, approved overwhelmingly in the armed services committee, we will for the first time deny everybody in the senate an opportunity to offer any amendments on any subject to the d.o.d. authorization bill and in fact will not consider it on the floor of the senate for the first time in four decades? mr. graham: the minority leader is absolutely

. >> you think the c.i.a. was in there helping this? >> i think american -- >> of course they were! >> jonas of right now. my guess is the americans carried this thing out. i don't know who else could handle something like this. but again, i agree with ron paul raising these issues, but i also agree that the president of the united states, this guy is an enemy in a time of war. and they've got the evidence. >> who can tell me about yes, ma'am pen their involvement or non-involvement? >> we have not declared war on yemen. but we know that al-qaeda network moved to yemen. and he was the operational head, and that's their major base. and they're the most dangerous network that we face today, is al-qaeda. basically move from afghanistan to yemen. so this is a war without borders. >> exit question, has al- awlaki's death removed the number-one terrorist threat to the united states? pat buchanan? >> no, i still think it's probably czar hero, but there's no doubt this guy is a major voice and he's a local operative. >> how many months will -- before -- >> i think the president can seal team

clinton led a high-profile delegation to islamabad, including the c.i.a. chief, david petraeus and joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey. it was a clear sign that washington is determined to get its message across. >>> more space junk is hurtling our way. the german aerospace center says nearly two tons of debris from a dead satellite is falling towards the atmosphere. it may reach the surface of the earth in the next few days. the aerospace center projects the satellite known as rosat will re-enter the atmosphere between october 22 and 23rd, utc. it ss i cannot predict the precise time and locationsf the re-ery rosat was used for research on black holes and knew tran stars, its telescope performed the first all-sky survey of x-ray sources. germany launched the satellite in 1990 and ended operations in 1999. the german aerospace center says most parts of the telescope will burn up on re-entry. but it says, up to 30 fragments, weighing a total of 1.7 tons could crash into the earth. the largest piece of the satellite that could reach the ground is th

carrier jets flying from an amphibious carrier off the coast were ready to take a shot if the c.i.a. drone missed. there was even an option for sending in marine ospreys with special operations forces to collect any intelligence left after the strike, but that was never used. it was all part of a secret buildup which has occurred in and around yemen as that country emerged as home to one of al qaeda's most active branches. >> this is further proof that al qaeda and its affiliates will find no safe haven anywhere in the world. >> reporter: since the bin laden raid last may, the u.s. has killed seven other senior al qaeda operatives in pakistan, somalia and yemen. al-awlaki is number eight. >> schieffer: all right, david martin. because al-awlaki is a u.s. citizen, some civil rights groups and republican presidential candidate ron paul question the government's right to track him down and kill him without a trial. let's go now to bob orr, who will tell us what who al-awlaki was and what the government thought he did. bob? >> reporter: well, bob, in many ways we could say that anwar al-

we did have a reporter of a colleague i love and value who was picking up from the c.i.a. that there were ubters of the evidence and he would do stories and sometimes they would sit for days or they weren't played as prominently as these other stories and i did learn there from that that if there are dissending voices, listen and evaluate them. >> rose: as we say good-bye to "the puppy diaries"... oh, can i show you this before you g thas in the by againing when she first came to new york. the this was like cssin tg west street forheir t fst time. >> this is in the foothills of... >> of connecticut. this is scout when i first met her, when we went to visit the breeder. >> rose: (laughs) i >> i know. >> rose: oh, look at this one. is this right out of the book? >> rose: that's right out of the book. >> rose: what is in the a broader sense that we owe audiences and readers and viewers? >> right now the economic struggles of the world from china through europe to what's happening in our country, just a huge story, one we're well placed to cover because we do have both the glob

my colleague porter gos who -- goss, who took over the c.i.a., i have talked to him. there's a heightened thought of what to do because of potential terrorism. >> have you heard about the n.s.a. we know about the warrantless eaves dropping and the flap over that. the president seems to not only successfully not been hurt by it, but he comes out a winner because the congress has come away from it because they don't want to appear soft on security. but the n.s.a., it is said, put cookies on those computers that inquierd into the n.s.a. have you heard anything about that? >> no, i know it's cookies are put on my computer all the time. it's not only cookies we had a bill dealing with the spyware and that has not passed. >> do you think that the federal government is doing enough with this new phenomenon where a person's identity cannot only be penetrated and exhausted but also stolen? >> i think the government does not have in place the legislation. this bilil has not passed that i have. we don't havehe bill in place dealing with pretexting, protecting information from you

>>reporter: refreshing moments in the hearing came from a former c.i.a. ficer who was straight talking and who tracked iran and hezbollah. >> operationally what i am suggesting the committees look at, look at canada. that is where the iranians have had much more success in developing contact networks and i suspect what they will try to do is move the type of operations they have in canada, move them south. >>reporter: a used car sales man seems unlikely choice for the alleged plot the former c.i.a. operative saying it really fit iran's m.o. >> i believe iran is intent on attacking us in the homeland. all one needs to do is to review their strategy, their behavior, their attacks and their targets of the past three decades. >>reporter: one surprising thing at the hearing was the idea that iran's operations are not as sleek as people say and they are sloppy and an example is that former street vendor, fruit and vegetable vendor in paris was recruited. >>shepard: that is weird. weird. what are the experts saying of the u.s. response to the provocations? >>repo

>>clayton: new evidence that al-awlaki could have been involved in the terror attack. a former c.i.ait is interesting why we are just learning. >>alisyn: and political ads are shaping you. what do the ads say about the president am candidates? [ male announcer ] to the 5:00 a.m. scholar. the two trains and a bus rider. the "i'll sleep when it's done" academic. for 80 years, we've been inspired by you. and we've been honored to walk with you to help you get where you want to be ♪ because your moment is now. let nothing stand in your way. learn more at keller.edu. if something is simply the color of gold, let nothing stand in your way. is it really worth more? we don't think so. chase sapphire preferred is a card of a different color. that's because you always get two times the points on travel, from taxis to trains, airfare to hotels, and all kinds of dining... from fast food to fine dining. and that's not all you get. there are expert advisors who answer immediately, whenever you call. and absolutely no foreign transaction fees. does your card do all that? apply today and earn 50,000

if i was the c.i.a. rever you went. >> has said we're not a threat to national security, even the government itself said we're not. >> bill: ok, all right, doc. i'd still shout at you. i'd go to denny's with you and everywhere you went. someone who wants to cut down on aids transmission, hey, we'll have our parties but we're not going to allow any illegal drugs in there and you're going to behave yourself. why aren't you saying that? >> illegal drugs don't equal unprotective sex! >> bill: every study says -- >> can i be -- remove h.i.v. out of the morning -- >> can you shut up for a minute? >> bill: funny accent. >> i'm in america. are you telling me that foreign people don't have the same rights? >> bill: i was told you might have snuck across the border. i might have to make a citizen's arrest. >> no! >> bill: you're finally in the no spin zone. >> i'm dizzy. >> bill: you're dizzy with excitement. >> with excitement. >> bill: it took a long time to get you in. >> i had to sacrifice myself. i'm not talki

that was actually it wasot ruled out that since president tavich won the eltion, he invited both the c.i.a. and the f.b.i. they were part of the team looking for these guys. >> charlie: so that's where -- >> so actually, you know, once -- the current president, president tarnich asked the foreign intelligence agencies. once they're in the serbs are clearly not draing their feet. they really went for it. they went hard and they went hard and the decision was made every time when she said go in and get her. and thank god for that is all i can say. >> charlie: i wanted to see them in the same cell and have that cell tapped. >> i once interviewed, i was sort of off the record theguy who ran the prison and he told me an amazing story pause all of them kroate -- they showed respect. it was really bizarre. >> charlie: at the gue. >> yes in the prison. they were mixed together. and there really is -- there's a marvelous play to be written. >> charlie: i was thinking the same thing. all right, thank you, misha. darkmarket is the book. thank you for coming by. great to have you in new york. captioni