by then, the c.i.a.'ector general's report was partly declassified, detailing some of the program's excesses. mock executions. people threatened with power drills. >> rodriguez: yes. >> stahl: people told that... that you were going to go and hurt their children, rape their wives. >> rodriguez: stupid things that were done by people who had no authority to do that. >> stahl: and they just took it on themselves. >> rodriguez: correct. and we found out about it, and we self-reported and actually called in the i.g. and said, "you better take a look at what these people did and do what you need to do." >> stahl: you have some people out there who were taken to black sites. they were subjected to terrible treatment. and they hadn't done anything. i mean, they were taken mistakenly. they disappeared. what about them? >> rodriguez: no doubt, when you are involved in complicated covert action programs like this one, that some mistakes will be made. >> stahl: rodriguez retired from the c.i.a. in january, 2008. he

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the c.i.a. man in charge of interrogations talks for the first time to lesley stahl, and reveals what he saw when they waterboarded the master mind of 9/11. >> and khalid sheik mohammed would use his fingers to count the number of seconds. >> pelley: airport screeners arrested for letting drugs through security. brian rooney on how they allegedly did it. and our cultural correspondent wynton marsalis on louis armstrong's last trumpet performance, rediscovered after 40 years. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. the threat of a terrorist strike in this country did not die with the killing of osama bin laden in pakistan. the first anniversary of the seal team raid on his compound is next wednesday, may 2. now, law enforcement is on alert for a possible attack around that date. we're told that there is no specific threat, but there are more messages flying around on extremist web forums calling for attacks. bob orr has more on what we

on the next issue, the c.i.a. tortureer admits to being a war criminal on national tv. >> why is nudity effective. >> it's effective because people feel very vulnerable when they're nude. >> i'll shred that and tell that guy he's stupid. >> and i was at the conference center. >> i want to you meet someone. >> already having fun. >> fancy, huh? i'll tell you what happened behind closed doors. also at rebel headquarters, rodney king, josh singleton. good night. go time. ♪ >> i don't know if you know this, but the obama administration kind of got osama bin laden. and they're not shy about telling people. this is the vice president. >> osama bin laden is dead, and general motors is alive. >> well, that's a pretty good slogan, and of course the republicans feel hurt. oh, no, don't tell us the truth. here is ed gillispie. >> this is one of the reasons why president obama has become one of the most divisive presidents in history. it was an unifying event for all americans. something that governor romney congratulated him

the c.i.a. story in charge of interrogation after 9/11 is speaking for the very first time. in a "60 minutes" interview, jose rodriguez of puerto rico, tells lesley stahl about waterboarding the man who planned 9/11. khalid sheik mohammed was stabbed to a board, tilted, head down, a cloth placed over hissa face, and water poured over his mouth to give the sensation of drowning. but rodriguez steals staal that mohammed was tough. they had to pour the water more than 180 times. >> this is an individual who probably didn't give a rat's as, is about having water poured on his face. >> reporter: he never believed for one second you were going to kill him? >> no. let me just tell you, khalid sheik mohammed would use his fingers to count the number of seconds because he knew that in all likelihood, we would stop at 10. so this-- this doesn't sound like a person who is afraid of dying. >> reporter: if he's sitting there counting off, he knows you're not going to kill him, he knows he's not going to drown, then why do it? what's the point? >> i think the cumulative effect of waterboa

and the c.i.a. was left out to dry. >> what happened was that they didn't do enhanced interrogations anymore. and so the philosophy became, as has happened in the last couple of years, these drone kills. they've been successful in taking out members of al-qaida and other terrorists but the question remains have you taken away the tools in which the c.i.a. has traditionally worked? in other words, capturing terrorists, questioning them and not reading them miranda rights, etc., and maybe using enhanced interrogation? >> here's the thing, what did we learn from the enhanced spare gatien? what did they do and why did they do it? this is a battle between the f.b.i. and c.i.a. the f.b.i. wants to build a criminal case and the c.i.a. wants to prevent the best attacks. we have the best in the world to question the worst in the world and it yields with proof, hardcore proof what it gave us and what it prevented and everyone now sits back and says oh, america, this is beneath us. >> right. and so this adminis

to prevent future attacks and save american lives. >> the c.i.a. orture" they are also critical of the administration drone policy. >> we are not in a stage to explore lawfulness of the program. but what we know should give us pause. >> but there has been no pause. there is a base of operation for al-qaeda and other terrorists. >> bret: thank you. consumer spending grew .of a percentage point --% 3 of a percentage in march. income was up .4. the dow was off 15. s&p 500 dropped 5.5. the nasdaq lost 23. spain confirmed today it has slipped back in recession. spain joins seven others in the euro zone now in recession. inflation and the euro zone fell to 2.6% down from march but higher than expected. still ahead, part one of the series running with romney. tonight, the man who may be at the top of the list. first, president obama breaks out a new campaign slogan. [ woman ] oh, my gosh -- it's so good! [ kristal ] we're just taking a sample of all our different items in our festival of shrimp so we can describe them to our customers. [ male announcer ] r

the c.i.a., for years, had been after bin laden, they had taken a lot of heat. and for them, this was now their moment. this was something that panetta really pushed and obama, in the end,ecided to go with. risky was it, david? >> one of the smart things the president did here was to say we need to go for the way that's high risk, high return, but we need to protect ourselves with backup helicopters and troops in case we get in a fire fight so they had them there and were ready. one thing this shows me is that this president, however awkward he sometimes seems in publ, in side of his job, in private, in secret, he is a very decisive, tough man, and somehow he's going to try to tell the count thatn this campaign we're about to enter. chris: a few republicans are observinghe bin laden anniversary by going back over old ground. liz cheney and john bolton. >> the audacity of audacity, to the extent that there have been foreign policy successes on this president's watch, they're built on policies of the last administration. >> the only thing that barack obama did in

. >> well, now that the c.i.a. rned that in 2009 they launched a center for climate change national security and at the time leon panetta was the director. quote, decision makers need information and analysis on the effects climate change can have on security. the c.i.a. is well positioned to deliver that intelligence. so obviously our commanders are concerned about it. the c.i.a. is concerned about it. i want to bring on someone else who is concerned. admiral, commanding officer national security strategist, he commanded the third u.s. fleet now he's president of acore which is american council on renewable energy. admiral, great pleasure to have you here. >> great to be here, cenk. >> great. talk to me about you why you think climate change is a national security threat. a lot of people might be surprised about that. >> five years ago this month the cna advisory board consists of a dozen retired three- and four-star admirals and generals from all four of the military services put out a report, the name of the repo

it was controversial and the cry -- and the c.i.a. the "washington post" and going for do the same thing in yemen which is a major escalation. and now to judge andrew napolitano. maybe we should eliminate the judicial branch. jug disucssion -- >>judge >>jude napolitano: this is on the front page of the "washington post", classified behavior involving the death of innocence and says the c.i.a. is asking the president for permission to use drones in such a way that people other than those targeted could be killed. wait. the president doesn't have the constitutional authority to grant that permission under the constitution. only the congress can declare war. and declare war on a country or group or geographical area. war with a target. war with an end. where will this lead us if the president can secretly order the most secret aspect of our government to use secret devices that fly under the regard day secretly to kill people in another country. >>shepard: that is constitutional? >>guest: it exposes the president and others to prosecutio

the c.i.a. t will jeopardize security. they are vowing to appeal. >> a former bigwig blasting the obama administration for stopping interrogation techniques like water boarding. >> let me tell just tell you, khali shaikh mohammed would use his fingers to count the number of seconds because he knew that in all likelihood, we would stop at 10. so this doesn't sound like a person who is afraid of dying. >> jose rodriguez is the former c.i.a. head of the clandestined services and he says the interrogation methods used under president bush were legal, effective and no less humane than drone strikes approved by president obama. >> meanwhile, the colts officially have a new face of their franchise. indianapolis took stanford's andrew luck last night as first pick in the draft. luck who replacing peyton manning looking forward to playing. >> it's nice to officially be a colt and it's still sinking in. it makes me smile saying it so, you know, can't wait to get out there really and get in the locker room

last night on "60 minutes" jose rodriguez ran the c.i.a. nced -- sorry, clandestine unit in charge of getting the intel that eventually led to bin laden killed. listen to the first sound bite. >> we made it uncomfortable for a few days but we did the right thing for the right reason. the right reason was to protect the homeland and protect american lives. >> eric: so, bob, the intel that was gleaned from sheikh muhammad, was taken from the carrier. >> bob: all of that -- the point is all intelligence builds on other intelligence and it takes a long time. from the time they first got the information to the time bin laden was killed was several years. it takes a long time to put it together. >> eric: did you hear what you said? you just gave credit -- >> bob: i do give credit to george bush and i give credit to intelligence and the c.i.a. they did a remarkable job. the difference is i'm willing to give credit. you're so partisan you won't give him a break for one thing he did right. >> eric: why won't obama, the campaign or white house give cr

the nypd. this particular c.i.a. officer was the architect of these spying programs. >> brown: and then there were further questions about the program leaving the jurisdiction of new york city as well, right? into new jersey and connecticut. >> that came to a real head in january after we exposed the fact that the nypd had infiltrated newark as well and applied their same counterterrorism tactics there. >> brown: meaning into the communities. >> into the communities going to the mosque. at least one instance we found treating mosques as if they were a criminal organization. taking pictures of people's cars, photographing who went into the mosque. the mere act of being a muslim was almost as if there was a crime. >> now you mentioned the response from the mayor bloomberg and the police chief ray kelly. they're saying this is, you know, i mean it evolved as you said. this is within legal bounds. this is a tough job. they detered terrorism, right? >> the nypd says they did deter terrorism. they have a certain narrative t

>>reporter: the c.i.a. has no public comment on the strike in yemen and claims this operative is dead. >>shepard: the f.b.i. director is in yemen? >>reporter: that is right. the line is that the f.b.i. director is there to reinforce what they describe as "washington strong commitment to the new yemen president who is publicly committed to working with the united states to counterterrorism in that country." that said, the reality on the ground in yemen has been a bloody confrontation after the other teen the yemen government forces and al qaeda in the south where al qaeda has carved out a safe haven. in some cases al qaeda has overrun the military and seized weapons and tanks. a short time ago i reached the f.b.i. in washington but they had no immediate comment on the director's trip, the timing, and the significance. >>shepard: thank you, catherine. and now news just in a moment ago, the pool reporter who is traveling with the president reports that the president had a like event that we saw parts of like he

yet when the crisis broke, kennedy used the c.i.a. director. and they were suspicious and political ruse. chris: he taped the conversation. >> the advice was bad advice. chris: and khrushchev's memoirs as we now know, if he hit new york, was going to hit new york. >> when you are president of the united states and you don't fully trust your advisers, you trust someone who sat in that chair before you more than anybody else. chris: howard, i want to play this soundbite frr lyndon johnson, how ike helped him after jack kennedy was assassinated. >> eisenhower came down and spent some time with me exploring the problems that he expected to arise con fronting a new president. chris: kennedy getting killed was an incredible moment and here was the republican coming in and helping l.b.j. >> two things about that. first of all, ike as a figure, was a tremendously reassuring president in american life. if there was a monarch, retired monarch, it was ike, who had led us into world war ii and president during a calm period in american life. there was the p

their movements, monitors their phone calls, monitors their e-mail, and according to the director of the c.i.a., anticipates their behavior. what the president is attempting to punish syria and iran for doing, intelligence agencies in the united states of america do, as well. do you remember when the occupy wall street group tried to shut down the bay area rapid transit in san francisco? what did the city of civilian do? shut down the interpret and shut down cell phones. the very same thing the president wants to punish people who when they do it in syria and iran. >>shepard: your first reaction was "physician, heal thyself." >>judge napolitano: is the president serious? he wants to punish people for doing the same thing that his own government does? as something by his own direction and lead? yes, because he is running for re-election and syria and iran, they are immensely unpopular and attacking them verbally or legally is popular for politicians. >>shepard: there is a clinton statute that has expanded in george w. bush years that makes it possible. >>judge napolitano: that statute lets the

. >> not after writing the history of the c.i.a.. >> jon: i believe your next book is the pentagon, is's a trifecta. >> jon: you really have. enjoy your time in bolivia. i was always under the impression the history of the f.b.i. was that when hoover died, they destroyed all of his secret files, that he had a regular file and then a secret file. that is not the case apparently. >> there's one set of files, official and confidential. his secretary got from a to c before nixon's henchmen got in there and said stop. there's another set of files on secret intelligence, spies, saboteurs, traitors, subversives. >> jon: these are the ones we have heard about like martin luther king, that's where his stuff would have been, the weatherman. >> the ones i got nobody had seen before. they are the orders that went up to him. he put his handwriting on every one of them and sent them back down. 27 years of hoover thinking outloud on paper. >> jon: so the picture that you got of hoover from these little, i wouldn't say doodles-- were there doodles? >> there were angry words or funny words or sarcastic

when the c.i.a. wheezeles the way they did in that clip, then you're not getting the true facts. but from some of these cormss, as well. >> oh, lots of lawsuits. i'm having so much fun on that, but it is really entertaining. they're doing some wicked things. when they killed those kids in pakistan, that really annoyed me. we'll sue them in britain, pakistan, here in america. oleate matly, what we want is a big debate. and the fact that 80% of americans want to change is going to start. >> class smith, you work with reprieve organization, you were at the first drone summit. thank you so much for joining us early this morning. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> so what do we know now that we didn't know last week? my answer after this. hey, dad, you think i could drive? i'll tell you what -- when we stop to fill it up. ♪ ♪ [ son ] you realize, it's gotta run out sometime. [ male announcer ] jetta tdi clean diesel. the turbo that gets 42 miles per gallon. that's the power of german engineering. ♪ lightweight nourishment is the best of both worlds. [ female announcer ] it's new

people who leaked the name of some of the c.i.a. agents who were involved in the enhanced interrogations. they're now prosecution what civil libertarians think are the whistle blowers and they're furious on that. >> i covered the bush administration and i was reading about how the american public has been so september -- accepting with the kinds of trade-offs that we have made as a society. what does your reporting show about the tradeoffs we all as a civil society were willing to make under two administrations? >> it's a real good question. in a war without end in -- in the middle of a war the american people will give the government great latitude and the executive great power. when you get a war without end that never self-correct itself. now a majority of americans support torture and keeping gaughan tan mo open and support the drone strikes. the new reality is that's sort of the viewpoint of the american people. we've gotten into the consciousness that we are at war and justice many powers in the government. >> and that's suppos