the c.i.a. being under the microscope, whether the c.i.a. spied on the senate intelligence committee. whether the committee had documents they shouldn't have gotten, and you write about dianne fienstein, who has been a supporter of the c.i.a. she says you write about what she calls a defining moment for the oversight of the spy agencies, saying that for an intelligence committee, buffeted. the rupture with dianne fienstein, one of its closest congressional allies could have brode ramifications, what do you see happening? >> that was extraordinary, is that as part of the fight between the committee and the c.i.a. over the legacy of this program, you have accusations of each side spying on each other. it's now with the justice department. to sort out whether crimes were committed. i don't think the justice department will take up the investigation in the sense that they'll charge anyone with crimes. it has real effects. one is the constitutional issue of separation of powers. the c.i.a. monitoring the people. secondly, you have the political st

in the aftermath in the c.i.a. at the time you describe it, septemberseptember 12th onward,y told to produce intelligence that fit a narrative? i know that's a pointed question, i'll let you deal with it. >> it wasn't that clearcut. let me say around 2003 when i had decided to resign from the agency for a number of reasons, one of those reasons for me personally was chatter i was hearing in the hallways about the so-called enhanced interrogation program. >> yes. >> i heard about someone higher up on the food chain than myself. i do know this person's name, i won't reveal it, but coming back from guantanamo bay, and gathering a group together, and openly bragging about the methods that we were using to try to extract information from these detainees. that was kind of appalling to me. none of us in the clandestine service were trained interrogators. >> that's an important point. that's an important point to make, lindsay. >> well, we were trained to gather intelligence in the traditional method of basically making fri

so not just the c.i.a. of the pentagon that have sort of blended together over the years to do these kind of secret mission. >> stephen: the blowing stuff up with drones-- there was a lot of criticism and obama says he's not doing it anymore of strapping guys to tables and pouring water over their face or making them stand up for 36 hours or in a brightly lit room for seven days or something like that. but there doesn't seem to be a big public outcry about blowing them up real good in some place sandy and rocky. why do you think the difference? >> i think there are different reasons for that. i think that some democrats have been less hesitant to criticize a democratic president about this. but there's also differences in, you know, warfare when you have someone in your custody, you're supposed to treat them humanely, versus a battlefield kill. this is the argument that's made -- >> stephen: let's just never have them in our custody. >> exactly. >> stephen: what does "the way of the knife" mean? it sounds l

the c.i.a.'s then most senior analyst on terrorism an outstanding officer whom this committee knows well, wrote the first draft of the unclassified talking points. neither the white house, the state department, nor i did so as ome have alleged. after our top analyst wrote the first draft, many changes were made to the talking points over a period of time. including some by agency officers, some by other agencies, and some by me. the process inside the c.i.a. to produce the talking points could have been better in several respects. and i discussed this in detail n my written testimony. but to be very clear, the white house did not make any substantive changes to the talking points nor did they ask me to make any substantive changes to the talking points. and while the talking points could have been better, the judgment that the attacks evolved from a protest was fully consistent with the intelligence community's classified analysis at the time. three. on the morning that i editted the talking poin

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the c.i.a.'s then most senior analyst on terrorism an outstanding officer whom this committee knows well, wrote the first draft of the unclassified talking points. neither the white house, the state department, nor i did so as some have alleged. after our top analyst wrote the first draft, many changes were made to the talking points over a period of time. including some by agency officers, some by other agencies, and some by me. the process inside the c.i.a. to produce the talking points could have been better in several respects. and i discussed this in detail in my written testimony. but to be very clear, the white house did not make any substantive changes to the talking points nor did they ask me to make any substantive changes to the talking points. and while the talking points could have been better, the judgment that the attacks evolved from a protest was fully consistent with the intelligence community's classified analysis at the time. three. on the morning that i editted the talking po

there are no direct interviews with the c.i.a. e in the bush administration. no republicans joined the investigation. they thought it was biased. >> i was never in favor of this report being done. i think it was a waste of time. the general public can make up their minds about whether or not this was done properly. >> the c.i.a. claims the committee accessed information without being authorized. committee chair dianne feinstein accused the c.i.a. of spying on the investigation. now it's up to president obama how soon this report goes public. >> he would expect that the actions that are necessary to declassify a document like that be conducted in all due haste. >> that's tracy pots reporting. the co director of the liberty and national security program at new york universities center for justice joins us. thanks for being with us this morning. the big truth that may come out of this report is we may find out that the c.i.a. went much further than watergateing. what is out there in the stratosphere as far as the spheres what the c.i.

. >>> the c.i.a. coming under fire as richelle carey reports on its controversial tactics. >> reporter: the report of extreme torture methods used by the c.i.a. during the bush administration. it reports on the use of enhanced techniques. the harsh methods might have been illegal even under the deaf fission of torture including waterboarding, stress positions, sleep depravation, confinement in a camp bo cramped box. >> the report exposes brutality that stands in stark contrast to our values as a nation. it chronicles a stain on our history that must never be allowed to happen again. >> the washington based m mccatchy service, the report is 6,000 pages long. the first being the interrogation techniques did not assist the agency in acquiring intelligence. it goes on to say that the they misinformed the public, congress about the necessity of their tactics, and said that the c.i.a. employed techniques on detainees that were not authorized while wrongfully detaining others. the findings were that the actio

also ahead this tuesday, a senate report charges the c.i.a. misled the government and the public about its harsh interrogation program. concealing brutal methods and overstating results. >> ifill: plus, the push in many states to expand pre-school, and to make sure the places that do have it are offering a quality education. >> most four-year-olds who go to preschool programs, go to programs that aren't good. the standards are so low, its questionable whether you should call it a preschool education. >> ifill: those are just some of the stories we're covering on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> at bae systems, our pride and dedication show in everything we do; from electronics systems to intelligence analysis and cyber- operations; from combat vehicles and weapons to the maintenance and modernization of ships, aircraft, and critical infrastructure. knowing our work makes a difference inspires us everyday. that's bae systems. that's inspired work. >> i've been around long enough to recognize

(applause) folks, the c.i.a. no longer has an enhanced interrogation program. and we know that because we've been assured of it by the people who said we never had one. some people still whine about it, but like a detainee in a stress position, these critics don't have a leg to stand on. because enhanced interrogation worked. >> the steps we took, including, i think, things like enhanced interrogation techniques, made it possible for us ultimately to provide the intelligence that was required to take down bin laden. >> if you're going to say that we should not have conducted the enhanced interrogation program, you've got to be willing to say how many american lives would you have been willing to put at risk because you didn't want to waterboard khalid sheikh mohammed. >> anybody who has seen "oh dark thirty," knows that there are pretty good arguments that those interrogations gave us a lot of intelligence information. >> stephen: that underinflated macy's balloon is right. (laughter) anyone who's seen "oh dark thirty "-- as no one calls it -- knows that torture

the former c.i.a. fficial accused of covering up the truth is back on the stand today. and this morning we have some exclusive new information you will only hear here on fox. >> wow. if government isn't paying our health care, here's their advice. find a sugar daddy. just when you thought it couldn't get worse, we have a way for you to pay. hey, mornings are better with friends.ç >> it's so much easier to pay all the bills if you've got a sugar daddy. >> that's actually it. it's a candy and it's a way for you to tax-free be supported. it is another way this administration is subtly trying to support obamacare. >> absolutely. you can be sarcastic as you will, but americans no it is no laughing matter here. it's been a hard sell, though. that is one of the many. that might have just tipped the iceberg. >> we will get to the president's victory lap yesterday in the rose garden but right now we have breaking news. >> we're following some destruction that took place in chile overnight. five people, at least

not something that i think is out of the question that we at the c.i.a. y have done, but when i heard it was an i.d. program i was taken aback. >> that's puzzling because they try in the public, at least, to stay out of things like this. so do you think this was organized. >> and a hand full of people that were playing speak a little bit, and it got out of hand. and it isn't that the program itself smacked of covert action, but the fact that they went to such lengths to keep it covert. that they were using front companies and bank accounts in the kaman islands and recruiting unsuspected executives. like stuff that we at the c.i.a. would do. >> it is wild, because you have to think as we move into this extreme digital age, people are craving this information, facebook is banned in some countries twitser bans in some countries is this type of an operation, something that could be useful to the cia or other agencies in. >> well, absolutely. i mean i think we have used spy ofs for a long time. and we have a long history of using them, in latin american, all ov

>> the c.i.a. described its program repeatedly through the department of justice and to congress to getting unique otherwise unobtainable intelligence to disrupt terrorist plots and save thousands of lives? was that true? vice president cheney said it was true so i have no reason to doubt it wasn't true. if you country trust a man that shot his own friend in the face because he thought he was a bird i don't know who -- >> the answer is no. >> jon: i'm so naive. you got me again. you old face shooting fella. [ laughter ] all right. so vice president cheney's response to his role, you like that? vice president cheney's response to his role in this shameful episode of american history is abject black and white reality denial. how does donald rumsfeld live with himself, sorry deal with it. we'll find now the a clip from the documentary the unknown known. >> what about the so-called torture memos? >> there were what? one or two or three? i don't know the numbers but there were not all of these so-called

it's been suggested that the c.i.a. is dragging its feet, and that the white house has not cooperated with the release. it's back to whether the agencies and the chows want the report to be released. the chairman of the senate intelligence committee hopes the report will be released been 30 cause. the pros is expected to take some months. >> a major restriction on independent campaign spending is gone. the supreme court's decision means that wealthy donors can spread their money to as many candidates as they want. there's a cap on how much they can give to one candidate. the rolling comes as the campaign season kicks up. the landmark case is mckuch jp v the federal election commission. good evening, sir, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. glad to be here. >> what were your campaign contributions looking like. how much will you give? >> well, they'll look good. i'll give more than usual. >> give us a sense of how this compares to the last election cycle for you? >> well, you know, as far as directly to canada, it

>> well, you know, here's the thing, the c.i.a.'s made up of many very patriotic americans who take risks to protect our country. good intelligence presents conflicts, that's one of the hopes that we have, and it has been our experience. so some of what was done at the c.i.a., in my view, came from a -- shall we say -- higher paid rate. came from higher ups to direct them to do what they were doing. we'll see what they did. i am not surprised by it at all. they hold a meeting, controlled the report on it, add facts after the -- not facts -- add mythology or whatever, their view, after the fact. absolutely no review of consensus of the meeting. and then they -- and then they do what they did to the -- alleged to have done to the senate committee. what will happen, if it passes out of committee which i suspect chairwoman feinstein has the votes to do, then it will go to the c.i.a. for a classified vetting, am i correct? i'm not finished. it goes to the c.i.a. for some classification vetting. and then it goes to the president. and the

. >> we'll have live coverage of the hearing at 2:00 pm eastern time. >> there's a report saying the c.i.a. misled the government and the public. the agency hid details about interrogation matters. the report find that harsh methods of torture did not lead to useable intelligence. the senate committee is expected to vote to request whether the report is declassified. >> in a unanimous decision the ukrainian parliament voting to take part in exercises with n.a.t.o. near the crimean barder. secretary-general angus foe rag mussen sharing concerns that russia will not withdraw troops from crimea. many are question n.a.t.o.s mission. >> the political crisis in ukraine, and what n.a.t.o. considers the illegal russian annexation of crimea has the alliance stressing why it is relevant. >> for more than 60 years we came together in n.a.t.o. not to claim lands, but keep nations free. >> some say n.a.t.o. naeeds to return to europe. >> they felt things in its neighbourhood were under control and they had the experience to under take missions in far away places. >> originally the 28 member countries a

it turned out the c.i.a. came to the same conclusions when they looked at the house, which is why they didn't trust to tell the pakistanis. >> what do you say to the man that was the u.s. ambassador to pakistanis, he said he did not believe that the isi knew and the u.s. didn't end up independently figuring that the isi knew. >> yes, i've had a lot of talks with cameron, the ambassador. i don't agree with him. i think he - he's interested in preserving the relationship with pakistan, so he's been cautious on what he thinks they knew. he says we didn't trust them, pakistan, to tell them about the raid. we kept it silent. i think that, to me chose -- shows there was a lot they knew that they didn't tell you. >> you write that pakistan were undermining our afrts, not that they were hiding osama bin laden but they were undermining the efforts. that the isa was maintaining and protecting the taliban. you say the pakistani military and taliban proxy forces lie in wait, as much of a threat, lying in wait for the u.s.

matthiessen was an environmentalist, activist, explorer, founder of "the paris review," c.i.a. and buddhist teacher. first and foremost a writer, produced more than 30 books in his career and remains the only author to win national book award for fiction and nonfiction. his last work will be published april 8. he was born into a wealthy new york family, profess add life long unease about unearned privilege that fueled his need to explore the larger world. he moved to paris after graduating. he founded "the paris review." moved to new york in the '50s and spent the rest of his life writing about the natural world and humanity, the snow leopard, at play in the fields of the lord and trilogy of watson novels which he compressed into one long work, shadow country in 2008. matthiessen is survived which wife maria eckert, four children from two previous marriages two, stepchildren and six grandchildren. he appeared on this program many times in the last two decades. here are moments from those conversations. what was it that drove you to go to africa and to go in search of something?

the c.i.a. ut islamic extremism from the talking points. wait 'til you hear why. >>> good morning. today is thursday, april 3. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. it happened again. another deadly massacre at fort hood. we are live at the texas base with what we know about the shooter and his motive for murder. >>> why wasn't the shooter stopped sooner? >> we are trained to be able to operate these weapons and make good decisions with the weapons. if you are allowed to carry the weapons on the base, that's a deterrent. >> that's right. despite the 2009 terrorist attack, soldiers at fort hood were banned from bearing arms. >>> and then there is this guy. piers morgan. cnn guy. he says the shooter was a nice guy. it's the gun's fault. and you wonder why he doesn't have a show anymore. it's a wednesday morning. you're watching "fox & friends" on the fox news channel. >> thank you very much for joining us, a special edition of "fox & friends." it has happened again. we were told five years ag

the secret program created by a c.i.a. officer in 2003 sent plains clothes police officers to eavesdrop. the idea was to stop potential terrorists. in 2011 the associated press revealed the program stirring waves of resentment and suspension throughout the community, and why the commissioner at the time raymond kelly defended the practices. >> he continued to do the things that he believed we have to do to protect new york city. certainly the number one terrorist target in this country. >> reporter: undercover cops would befriend muslims and start conversations with them, noting their feelings about america and u.s. foreign policy all while they ate, shopped, and prayed. >> we wouldn't be praying for the soul of america. we feel so much harm and so much suspicion has been taking place. now we find out that our law enforcement at the highest level is considering our community a suspect. more importantly they're attacking the most important thing we believe in, that is our faith. >> very cute to go in and blame everybody and

also ahead this tuesday, a senate report charges the c.i.a. misled the government and the public about its harsh interrogation program. concealing brutal methods and overstating results. >> ifill: plus, the push in many states to expand pre-school, and to make sure the places that do have it are offering a quality education. >> most fo

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the senate intelligence committee has voted to declassify parts of a report on c.i.a. interrogations after 9/11. the report concludes methods such as waterboarding were often cruel and ineffective. today's vote comes as senators accuse the c.i.a. of spying on their investigation and deleting files. the c.i.a. says senate staffers accessed the information illegally. hopes for progress in middle east peace talks are fading. israel announced today it will not release another group of palestinian prisoners after all. it blamed palestinian president mahmoud abbas for resuming a push for u.n. recognition. abbas had cited delays in the prisoner release for his decision. in algeria today, secretary of state john kerry appealed to both sides. >> the leaders have to lead. and they have to be able to see a moment when it's there. there's an old saying you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. now is time to drink and the leaders need to know that. >> ifill: kerry had set the end getting a framework peacefor agreement. the government of chad announced today it's w