the next day the cdc said ms. vinson never should have gotten on that plane. >> the second health care worker reported no symptoms and no fever. however, because at that point she was in a group of individuals known to have exposure to ebola, she should not have traveled on a commercial airline. >> later it emerged why nurse vinson decided to do that. the cdc told her it would not be a problem. last night the cdc told "the kelly file" before we came to air that they were not blaming the victim here. but by this morning unnamed federal officials came out to say that ms. vinson had lied to them about how she was feeling. when challenged on that question today, the cdc director said this. >> i have not reviewed exactly what was said, but she did contact our agency. and she did board the plane. >> so the cdc director does not know if his own agency actually green lighted this travel while the nurse was showing symptoms. as has been reported. he says he doesn't know. others say it happened. in a court of law, that's pre

so who knows what is happening within the cdc. did dr. frieden know that and didn't reveal it in the press conference, or is he misinformed? is the communication that bad? and if so is that why the protocols or so-called protocols were not followed at the dallas hospital and why the nurse's union are saying they are not prepared. these are questions that need answers, and hopefully today we get them so this so-called panic in the american public can calm down, and the focus can go back to west africa where thousands of people are infected. the situation in america is alarming. beyond that the real story at this point is over in west africa. i cannot emphasize that enough, del. >> robert ray in atlanta. let's take a brief listen to the testimony happening right now. these are members of congress giving their opening statements. take a listen just for a moment. >> -- by isolating patients, the u.s. healthcare system can prevent isolated cases from becoming broader outbreaks. and that's why i'm glad dr. frieden is with us, and dr. varga will

the cdc only gives recommendations. it is up to the hospitals and the local department of health to follow them. i think that you be more people held responsible other than just barack obama and the cdc. guest: two good points. rick perry is returning to the events dates immediately, i believe. he has cut short his european tour. be hiss supposed to attempt to burnish his foreign-policy expertise as he is a potential 2016 republican presidential candidate. he stopped his tour and is coming back to texas, he announced. i think you will hear from him soon. in fact, i can almost guarantee that he will be out in front of the cameras talking about this. you also bring up the point about who is really responsible for dealing with ebola crisis. repeatedlyd this from officials and nonmedical experts who say it is the local health departments that are primarily in charge of this. health,s department of the hospitals where the patients are being treated. they need to be the first line of defense against this. i have heard a lot of

and outrage over ever changing statements from the cdc. americans asked to trust a system, so far a system that has failed. let's go "outfront." >>> good evening. i'm erin burnett and we begin "outfront" with the breaking news. a second nurse diagnosed with ebola in the united states. at this hour the patient being flown to emory university hospital in atlanta after what appeared to be serious missteps by texas presbyterian hospital where that nurse treated thomas eric duncan. and new information about where amber vinson was before she was under the influence. she boarded a flight despite a 99.5 temperature. and 24 hours later she was in the hospital diagnosed with ebola. we should mention that she was not supposed to be leaving her home. she was off work, supposedly monitoring herself for a fever. the said of the cdc said vinson should not have flown and from now on people monitored will not travel. and it is the latest example of how a system that the cdc has asked americans to trust has not lived up to expectations. late today the presid

the cdc told her she could do it. on this as we get it. >>> a disturbing report of leftover chemical weapons in iraq after the fall of saddam hussein. soldiers coming in contact with this until as recently at 2011. the majority of discoveries happened in an area that's now under the control of the terror army known as isis. general jack keane, former army vice chief of staff. good to see you. the "new york times" is reporting that the chemical weapons first have already been used against u.s. troops in the course of our first stint in iraq. and that the government, the u.s. government decided to keep it quiet. is that true? >> well, i find that hard to believe. well, frankly the weapons could be used by isis. obviously they found some of these old weapons. and go back to the '80s, et cetera, our troops found some of them as well. their mission was -- our troops mission was not to clean this up. that was something the iraqis was supposed to do. and obviously they didn't do a very good job of it. so isis had those. and

i'm reading the statement from cdc and frontier. se of the proximity and the evening flight and the first report of the illness the following morning this is why they've taken the action to notify 132 people. >> i think there's a couple of things going on. one, just because you're not symptom -- they don't have enough infor example to spread to other individuals. that's what we've identified as when people are truly having symptoms then they finally achieve that threshold of enough virus to actually pass it on to someone else. however, i think the other issue right now there's a big perception problem. everything that has gone wrong down in dallas there's a feeling a that we're not doing enough. i think there is actually we're going -- the pendulum will swing to the other side and we'll try to do more than what we have to do in order to at least make other people around the united states as well as other airline passengers and the passengers themselves to understand that we're going to do a lot more now. maybe even more than we have

the cdc has protocols. ey have been trying to do some education but clearly that hasn't been effective enough that's why they are ramping up attempts to train infectious disease workers across the u.s.. the hospital leadership and their infection-control experts and each has their own infection-control department. they should have trained their staff. >> let me just get this in. this is a statement from the hospital from texas presbyterian. they say quote, we take compliance very seriously. we have numerous measures in place to provide a safe working environment including mandatory annual training and 24-7 hotline and other mechanicsisms that allow for anonymous reporting. here's the question. maybe it wasn't the anticipation that this actually happened here, that there would be this person that came from liberia who had been exposed and ultimately got sick and died. but i'm curious, there's only a finite number of beds in this hospital that can handle patients like this. emory being one of them. do you thin

more importantly, the head of the cdc, dr. frieden, said you don't need a special hospital room to take care of ebola. all you need? a private room and bathroom. he said essentially any hospital in the country can take care of ebola. he said that less than two weeks ago. how could they have been so wrong? >> yeah. he was wrong. and what's interesting is josh earnest for the second straight day said, look, we have full confidence in dr. frieden despite some of those comments. the other issue they're they've got questions today about who's really in charge here. you've got dr. frieden. then all of a sudden, sylvia burwell, popped up on the "today" show. there was a convention call to be led by dr. frieden. secretary burwell took the lead instead. seems that they're now trying to eclipse dr. frieden even as they say full confidence. based on statements, they bringing in all kind of other officials to show a leadership role. in the end, that could be problematic, as well, if you don't have one top official who's really taking the r

it's not just the cdc's lack of leadership. it's also a combination of creating dread by the media that helps encourage this. however, i think that that public dread is more pronounced among parents than there are people like me who hang out all night and get drunk. but there's also an interesting contrast of reaction to danger. there's been research that shows that conservatives react more strongly to negative challenges like disease and terror than liberals do. and you can see this in a way in the administration and in places like fox. this suggests to me, and i think bob will disagree, that liberal leadership can only exist in times of calm because theyer slow to react to deadlier threats. so this is why when america is screaming for more serious people and more serious response, it's because the sense that the administration doesn't take their threats seriously. instead the think about childhood obesity and think about climate change as the real threats when in fact the urgent threats, whether it's isis or whether it is ebol

and the cdc says it deeply regrets that decision. that nurse was flown to atlanta, to emory university. she just got into the ambulance. robert ray is there. what's the latest? >> reporter: indeed john, we are waiting for the arrival of the 29-year-old who flew from dallas to emory university. she will be quarantined immediately and tested and her vital signs and continuing the process like the other patients here. i just got off the phone with a federal official inside the centers for disease control which is about five blocks up the road right now. that person like you said confirmed that the cdc an epidemiologist inside the cdc told the patient before she was about to get on a plane in cleveland that she could get on that plane and travel because her temperature was under the threshold of what an ebola symptom could be. that is 100.5. that official also told me they deeply regret this and when i asked the official how could something like this happen? why would you even take that risk? why wouldn't you just send her to cleveland cl

between the cdc and the nih. and go to fact of the matter is the cdc has already blown it. no matter what they say right now, they've lost the confidence in terms of all the things they've changed in the last week, in terms of the execution and/or the parameters. the unfortunate part of the matter is that in general doctors don't tend to be great public communicators. and that is an extremely important skill right now in terms of being able to understand the problem and being able to communicate that to the public. >> maybe that's why they went for a political guy. maybe that's your argument. a doctor needs to look at the medicine behind it, and the political guy can communicate it. maybe that would be an argument for them. >> that would be an argument for him. we need a real surgeon general. scrap this nomination which nobody really wants. and let's find somebody else. >> the democrats are saying, the republicans need to stop their opposition to this surgeon general -- let's just get a completely different nominee. >> we don't need a poster child for obamacare. we need some

members of congress expected answers from the cdc. they got is this. >> i don't know the details. >> reporter: time and again tom frieden dodged questions like how did two hospital workers get the disease. >> i still don't feel like we have a good answer of why nurse one and nurse two contracted ebola. is it because there was a problem with not following the protocol or is there something wrong with the protocols? >> and i think what the american people are wanting is some assurance that somebody does know the details. >> the investigation is ongoing. we've identified some possible causes. >> so we don't know. >> reporter: another question, why did the cdc tell the second nurse she could board a commercial plane even with her temperature rising. >> i have not reviewed exactly what was said. but they r she did -- but she did contact our agency and she did board the plane. >> and she said she was told to board the plane. >> that would be correct. >> now your august 22nd protocols say people who are being monitored should not travel by c

this health care worker had been under the self monitoring regimen prescribed by the cdc. based on involvement and caring for the patient thomas eric duncan during his care that started on september 28th. individuals who are being monitored are required to take their temperatures twice daily. as a result of that process, the caregiver notified the hospital of imminent arrival and was immediately admitted to the hospital's isolation room. the entire process from the patient's self monitoring to the admission into isolation took less than 90 minutes. the patient's condition is stable. a close contact has also been proactively placed in isolation. the caregiver and the family as already stated have requested total privacy, so we can't discuss any further details of the situation. the judge mentioned we've known that further cases of ebola are a possibility among those who are in contact with mr. duncan before he passed away last week. the system of monitoring, quarantine and isolation was established to protect those who cared for mr. duncan as well as the community at large b

the cdc has now talked to every passenger on board that flight. but in the 24 hours after vinson got off the plane, it made six more flights carrying up to 800 people. you might ask, what's the risk if she's not on the plane? well, it turns out ebola can live on a dry surface, like a tray table or doorknob for several hours. in body fluids like blood or urine, it can live for several days. which is why frontier airlines is planning to replace the carpets and material on the seats. megyn. >> "the kelly file" got an exclusive look inside the very plane in which ms. vinson flew on october 13th, just one day before she was officially diagnosed with ebola. and everyone from the ceo to the head of the cleaning crews says no doubt about it this plane is safe to fly. fox news contributor dr. mark siegel has more from newark airport. >> with us is the ceo of frontier airlines to walk us through what the flight was like for her, where she sat and what she experienced. >> nice to meet you. come on aboard. let me show you around. >> amber vinson came onto the

they go above and beyond what the cdc recommends. u can't see his whole body there, but take a look specifically at the neck, the hood, the face shield. that is the point. you don't want anything exposed. it is not a respiratory virus so you don't need respirators, but you need what he has here, and it sounds like she did not. >> she is a very brave woman, she is speaking on behalf of health care workers. they asked why aren't we looking at doctors in west africa who treated ebola and they're wearing hoods and face shields but here in the u.s. the guidelines are very piece meal, you put on a mask, a pair of gloves, oh gown, you may or may not put on a different pair of gloves, so we're seeing very different criteria in the u.s. >> when the head of the cdc was visiting in west africa, he was not wearing what the nurses in the hospital were wearing. he was wearing that pull protective suit, correct? >> correct. and you know he was doing what all the doctors do there. i should point out sometimes you hear we're making a distinction, if y

we heard thomas frieden yesterday saying they'll have some of the cdc s.w.a.t. team that will go to places like texas presbyterian should other cases develop? >> yeah, if we could just send it in and get the hospital in order and get them to change their ways and do a better job of protecting their workers. but i think there may be a newer level of thinking which is wait a second, if these teams haven't been drawn and if the hospital doesn't have such a safety track record, can you really send a s.w.a.t. team in and fix it? i think that's going to be discussed at the highest levels of the centers for disease control. is it possible to parachute in and fix things. i'll tell you, safety measures are tough to do. and they're a pain in the neck to do. they're not easy. it's a lot easier not to do them. hospitals in general, many of them have been accused of just not being tough enough, not being rigorous enough. i think questions will arise can you just parachute in and fix hospitals. or do you want to just designate certain hospitals that have a great track record.

we have a lot more on the cdc. coming up on the program tonight, and ebola, members of the obama white house are taking heat for downplaying this threat from the very beginning all while the left is trying to politicize this and blame it on republicans. we'll check in with the architect on the politicizing of this. we'll get his reaction. but first meet the parents of the nbc cameraman who did come down with ebola. an exclusive update on his condition. that's coming up. later tonight, our question of the day. much more straight ahead. why do i cook? because i make the best chicken noodle soup >>because i make the best chicken noodle soup because i make the best chicken noodle soup for every way you make chicken noodle soup, make it delicious with swanson® >>> and welcome back to "hannity." doctors say the american video journalist who was infected with ebola while working in liberia, ashoka mukpo, continues to show improvements every day. we're happy to report that mukpo was even well enough to return to social medi

the cdc says that this was not part of their crew. dallas officials had said this was not part of their crew, phoenix air, the transport company is saying this was a medical safety coordinator working for them. however, they are not identifying that particular person, not giving out that name, tamron. >> all right, thank you for that. this morning, dallas county judge clay jenkins told my colleague he only wants one patient treated at the hospital at a time. and craig joins us from dallas. so craig, is that the explanation of why ms. vinson was transported to emory? >> reporter: that is the best explanation we've gotten so far. that would go a long ways in explaining precisely why it is that nina pham remains here in good condition. he would not confirm that is the only reason that jenkins went on to say that it is a matter of using this hospital's resources most effectively. while i'm talking to you, tamron, roughly three miles away here at north dallas we're seeing the second round of cleaning at amber vinson's apartment. i think we

the cdc only gives recommendations. it is up to the hospitals and the local department of health to follow them. i think that you be more people held responsible other than just barack obama and the cdc. guest: two good points. rick perry is returning to the events dates immediately, i believe. he has cut short his european tour. be hiss supposed to attempt to burnish his foreign-policy expertise as he is a potential 2016 republican presidential candidate. he stopped his tour and is coming back to texas, he announced. i think you will hear from him soon. in fact, i can almost guarantee that he will be out in front of the cameras talking about this. you also bring up the point about who is really responsible for dealing with ebola crisis. repeatedlyd this from officials and nonmedical experts who say it is the local health departments that are primarily in charge of this. health,s department of the hospitals where the patients are being treated. they need to be the first line of defense against this. i have heard a lot of

what is the cdc saying about that? >> i think we're going to hear some changes in the guidelines specifically. ana, you and i talked about this yesterday. i did a demonstration of exactly what the protocol was for health care workers when they're taking care of a patient with ebola, and when showing that, you know, it was easy to see there are areas for example of the skin that were not protected, my neck for example not protected under those strict protocols that i was following and that's a problem. i think that you're going to see some changes in those guidelines and maybe make it more uniform. they have to balance this to be fair, ana. they don't want to make it too complicated. the more steps you add, the more chances for error. on the other hand, protecting the skin from bodily fluids potentially getting on it is a very basic core concept. >> protecting the spread, we're talking this morning about a woman who had contact with thomas duncan, she was supposed to be self-monitoring, she ended up on the airplane. let'

maybe he'd at least have an m.d., maybe did a stint at the cdc or some place. this is so obvious this is a political choice. >> but wait, it's the same in many ways as with what's gone on with the islamist militants in iran and syria. we've got this under control, you people are overreacting, overreacting until the political pressure becomes too great and you say what can we do to shut them up? what can we do to keep the critics quiet? how do we respond to this in a way that is going to be okay? because in this case they believe what they're saying. what they believe is things didn't work out so great. somebody with ebola did come into the country. and the containion occurred and people got on cruise ships, for goodness sakes. >> right. >> but they still think it's going to be okay. what they want to do is create contain oncontrol for political damage. >> maybe that is it expertise. here's an unelected official, yet another czar, does this guy get a budget? does this democratic political operative get a budget of our money? >> no, he gets force whatever the part

frieden to lead the cdc at this time? and also, is the administration going to rethink the idea to appointment someone to be an ebola czar, given this new urgency? >> the answer to your first question is, yes. throughout this process and dating back to march, i might add, this administration has been guided by the science. by our medical experts who have experience in dealing with ebola outbreaks. for almost four decades now, the global health community, led by the united states, has been dealing with ebola outbreaks in africa. and as we are dealing with a public health situation in this country, we continue to be guided by the advice of medical experts and scientists, who have knowledge in this field and can use that knowledge to protect the american people. as it relates to a so-called ebola czar, what i -- i'll reiterate what we've said in the past on this, which is that we've designated very clear lines of responsibility in terms of which agencies are responsible for which aspects of this response. we've got cdc and us

the cdc official -- what'd you say? k the lead on this here and city and federal supported them. you can't just blame the president. >> but you have county officials that trusted the guidelines of the cdc, and they were a failure, and so when you're a governor, your job is ultimately when you realize that you have no faith in the federal government to do this and handle this the right way, when you see health care workers in new york calling in sick, faking that they actually need to go to another hospital so they don't have to if to work, i think that tells you a whole lot about the health care society and how many of these people say oh, it's fine, i'd treat them, until they have to deal with them. look at new york now. you actually have workers saying i'm noting if to work. you had the same thing happen in dallas, they said get these patients out of here because we don't trust the protocols of the cdc. you have experts say oh it's fine. ask the experts that have to deal with ebola and they're saying i don't want to de

is it the cdc? i don't think it is the cdc.ocused a lot on what's happening in the united states, appropriately. but at the same time we have a global concern and liberia and in this epicenter overseas. and we need one person that is the spokesperson, it does have the medical knowledge. they can coordinate with clarity, with consistency around the country. ultimately, though, it's going to be a local response. the typical american today is not at risk. there are 23,000 people who die of the common flu every year. and people need to recognize that. and relax in many ways, recognize it's very significant, but this is not something that the average american needs to be overly concerned about in terms of their own safety. >> that is great perspective to be reminding people of this morning. sanjay, do you think that is the answer, having one point person going forward? >> yeah. i agree with the senator on that. you know, in part what i think is what you're seeing is while the local health departments are in charge of what's happenin

our time at the cdc here in atlanta today. and as we come on the air tonight, there is a new development about amber vinson. that second nurse who boarded that plane from cleveland back to dallas. i want to bring in our chief medical editor dr. richard besser, who is live in dallas tonight. and rich, you're learning that she might have shown symptoms before we even knew about it? >> reporter: that's right, david. the cdc just told me that as part of their investigation, they learned that amber vinson was already feeling unwell on friday, before she headed up to cleveland. so, they're going to expand their investigation and track down every passenger who was on the plane going up there. just also part of an abundance of caution. >> that's going to widen this circle, rich, because we know she went to that bridal shop and other stops along the way, after showing symptoms, as you're reporting here tonight. and rich, i wanted to ask you about something else the cdc told me there, the experimental treatment being given to those two n

what's the late of the you're hearing well? >> cdc investigators are taking a look at this latest outbreak. two health care workers now inpekted and they're takinga i look at the early days when thomas eric duncan, the first patient who died from ebola last week, they're taking i look at the early days as one of the areas of greatest concern. >> the second infected nurse, amber vinson is a 29-year-old registered nurse from ohio. she like nurse nina pham had close contact with duncan before he died from ebola. after caring for duncan, vinson flew to ohio to work on wedding plans. she then flew back to dallas from cleveland on frontier airlines 1143 monday evening one day before her ebola diagnosis. >> although she did not report any symptoms and she did not meet the fever threshold of 100.4, she did report at that time that she took her temperature and found it to be 99.5. the cdc says she should not have flown and is reaching out to passengers on that return flight. >> we want to deal with facts, not fear. >> battles on two front as t

so far the faa has punted to the cdc. the faa put out a press release saying it's up to the cdc. cdc said they will conduct the screenings, if someones that the elevated temperatures they will do the questioning and have seclusion rooms where they can decide what to do. but as you and i know, if someone is sick and needs to go to the hospital they don't have a lot of ability to detain people, et cetera and we're about to head into two seasons, one bad, one good. flu season and thanksgiving and christmas holiday and the peak travel season of the year. people traveling with children as well. so that poses a lot of problem for the cdc on retaining and detaining people. and i think that is probably where we run into problems with false positives. it's not going to work for long. >> one additional question. let's assume that today someone

thomas freidman is the director of the cdc. we have the direct of the the cdc. llergy within the national institute of health. we have the assistant for the preparedness and response at the cdc. we have the assistant commissioner at the counter terrorist food and drug instruction. we have the field operator within border protection at the office of homeland. and dr. daniel varga is here from the texas health center joining us on the screen. i will swear in the witnesses. you are aware the committee is holding an investigative hearing and when doing so has the practice of taking testimony under oath. any objection for taking testimony unoath? >> no. >> no. >> under the house of the and committee you are entitled to be advised by council. do any of you advise you would like hat? >> no. >> no. >> everyone said no. in that case, rise and raise your right hand, do you swear the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> i do. >> you are under oath and subject to the penalty set forth in section 18 of the code. dr. frei

but the cdc head was saying don't worry about it. you need is a private room with a private bathroom. you don't need anything else beyond that. how could he be so wrong and be the head of the cdc? >> well, the argument that the obama administration is giving, they don't make any sense. so for example one argument they're giving is they say they've implemented screenings in five airports. now, that's a positive step. but the problem is screenings only work if someone is demonstrating symptoms. since ebola has up to a 21-day incubation period, if someone is not demonstrating symptoms, the screenings are ineffective. you know, mr. duncan who flew from liberia and was able to fly to the united states to dfw airport here in dallas, from what we know when he came over, he didn't have a fever at the time. he wasn't demonstrating symptoms. which means he would have walked right through the screening. what the administration is doing isn't enough. and what's amazing, sean, this shouldn't be a partisan issue. this is a simple matter of common

you can see the cdc director, dr. ieden testifying, continually now for the last couple of hours, taking questions from members of congress. keeping it here on that. we'll bring you the latest and breaking developments when warranted. >>> in the meantime, a lot of moving parts in the ebola story today. the white house trying to keep a lid on it, scrambling to ease concerns and calling for calm. >> this is ray draft that's being circulated around the pentagon and elsewhere in the government that would potentially have the president call up of national guard to get more men and women in uniform over to west africa to deal with this at the source. now, the key, though, is the president has not yet signed off on it. number two, the president also authorized up to 3,900 u.s. troops to go to west africa. about 500 are either there or en route. it's hard to this will be that new or whether it's partially for show. looks like they're doing more when, in fact, troops are already headed there. we're told by some officials, this

and the cdc says okay.this is all the result of one guy. >> right. >> now you got to get in touch with all 133 people and in touch with all the people they got in contact with and so on -- i feel like a commercial. and so on. right? >> well, that was a lapse. at this point we're doing a mid-course correction. we have to support the efforts being made. this is what we need to do. we need to get all hands on deck. >> do you feel confident a political hack could do that? >> i believe we need a leader capable of dealing with the pentagon, centers for disease control and prevention -- >> how about a world renowned doctor? >> it's possible. but physicians are meant to diagnosis and treat patients. we do not know how to run things in washington. >> the world renowned doctor that has public health experice or maybe combined with the military guy that can organize things. not a political hack. >> time will tell, but we need somebody who's had experience with that. we don't know anybody at this time who could do it.

step one they say, making sure the cdc s.w.a.t. teams are ready to roll any time there is a new diagnosis. brian. >> chris jansing on the north side of the white house tonight. all of these jitters about ebola contributed to a wild day on wall street. when you think about it it makes some sort of sense that airline stocks took a big hit in particular. at one point the dow was down 460 points before rebounding some, finishing the day down 173. nasdaq, s&p were down as well. there is good economic news as well, especially gas prices. cnbc's david faber eto talk abot all this. the market has been making a lot of news. >> it is. you certainly can't discount ebola. there's certainly fear. fear moves markets and to the extent that's growing, that's having an impact. as well as a practical impact. if we believe people will change their behavior, perhaps they won't travel as much and we've seen airlines and car rental company stocks come down even before this recent dip in the market. it's not just ebola. there's also continued concerns geo

the cdc is consistently revising them. w more about whatto have they learned as they've examined the situation in texas to keep everything possible to keep our staff and patients safe. >> when you look at the instructions that the cdc puts out and you look at people who treat ebola patients in west africa, and how they credress. there is a difference. there is a chasm. the cdc do not recommend a head covering and two sets of gloves, only one set of gloves. they don't recommend covers for shoes or boots. it it just seems as though even though we have been seeing this crisis across the ocean and slowly come and make the way here, it seems as though everyone is just caught as if we didn't know what was coming. >> when you look at the cdc guidelines there are the protective guidelines for precautions and those are the ones that you prescribe. there is an escalation in the secretions and that's typically vomit and you do escalate to full covering. i think what we're realizing now is there may be no time to really evaluate when y

to the cdc for the work they continue to do. >> thank you. thank you for the terrific work your team is doing there. theeally do appreciate partnership in your work on the ground makes a big difference. we are honored to be part of the team doing that with state, city at hospitals will stop the bottom line here is we are very concerned a preliminary positive has been identified in a health-care worker who provided care to the index patient. confirmation rate testing later today at the cdc and we will identify any additional contacts that individual had before they were diagnosed and other individuals who may have divided care for the x patient that may have similarly been exposed and actively monitor those individuals. also undertake a thorough investigation to understand how this happened and we will ramp up infection control to do whatever we can to minimize the risk that there would be any future infections. finally, our thoughts go out to the health-care worker, their family, understanding how difficult a time this is for them and other h

thomas frieden, the head of the cdc, the leader, know that she spoke with someone inside the cdc to sayhat she had a fever? did she have that information? because if he did have that information, he did not reveal that in the press conference earlier today, john. >> so she's taken on private plane now from dallas to atlanta. why was she taken to emory instead of staying in dallas? >> they could take a third patient if someone else were to become inif he had, john. >> do we know much about the other patient that is at emory that has ebola? >> well, we haven't known a whole lot until today. >> other patient flew in from sierra leone on september 9th. so quite some time ago. >> patient put out a press release earlier today. the patient said that he was in critical condition at some point after arriving here in atlanta and that, you know, he hopes to be out of the hospital in the coming days or weeks, that he's on his road to recovery, john. >> robert ray, thank you. now, president obama today cancelled high-profile campaign event so he could address public concerns about ebola. he has been

that's what the cdc is saying. i know people don't always trust it these days but if you think about who caused the disease, it's not people who knew duncan in passing. those 48 people now look as though they aren't going to catch this. they are past their peak time that he would catch area they are heading towards the second half of the period. the people that caught it or the people that are really handling the disease, you know, who dealt with duncan when he was in the throw of this. there were front-line workers dealing with bodily fluids directly. people sitting on the plane even if you are sitting next to somebody that you're just sitting there and the chances of you catching it according to the cdc is zero. so if you look at it that way, it makes sense that the cdc says we are not particularly worried people caught the disease but she was at the threshold when it could have been dangerous it is the next day or the day after. >> host: the call for the global response, what has been a response in the other coun

and there is that information on the cdc website. but i think what we have asked for and identified, that needs to be escalated sooner. and i think that was probably the biggest gap that we saw at the texas hospital, and again the delays, i think, that allowed nurses to be exposed were very unfortunate, and really have been corrected now, and i think as we're spreading information to hospitals across that the full suits with everything from head covering to shoe covering jumpsuits that cover front and back and the double gloving and taping them to the suits are extremely important. we've actually done very well for over two decades of preventing the transmission of infectiius diseases. gerri: it's not just what people are wearing, but how they put it on and take it off. anddmy question for you is, i know the complaints early on were the cdc is showing a link to go to but what we really need is somebody to talk to us about this, show us how we're suuposed to take it off, which is the critical point. do you feel like you're going to get

we don't know if there is a supervisory system, and the cdc guidance and the protocols and the cdc arewhat they do, but it is the implementation, and we are not getting enough information, and now as we go to talk about the hospital preparedness and readiness throughout the country, the hospitals have the facilities, but they don't have are the management systems and the how to implement in place, and to say we are not ready, and this is what we need, but we are using the protocols to help them with the national program. >> and this is going to be working with other diseases as well, and it is a same protocol for a lot of the contagious diseases, and not just in case you get ebola, but other times that the procedures can be used. >> candy, winter is flu season, and we are about to hit the flu season, and at the moment, a few ebola case, and we have flu cases coming in with the fatigue, and the body aches, which is the same, and we have to look at the e trtriage and t national strategy plan as to what to do with the flu is season. >> and elizabeth, one of the things in the show that cam

the cdc said she felt tired, had to rest on several occasions. as not exhibiting symptoms, but she certainly was feeling off. vinson may have felt ill all the way back to friday when she took that flight up from dallas to cleveland. >> we can't rule out that she wasn't ill, okay, for the time that she was here in ohio. and so we're going to be very conservative. we're going to be very aggressi aggressive. >> because she may have been sick on that flight up on october 10, the cdc is now contacting everyone who was on board that aircraft. they're making good progress. they've contacted more than 50% of the passengers. they also say they have contacted everyone who was on the return flight back from cleveland on monday. in ohio and dallas, officials are actively monitoring 12 people who came in contact with vinson, many of them family members. all of them said to be cooperating, though some family members are leaping to her defense. her uncle reportedly telling people she did nothing wrong, also insisting she did not contact the cdc directly before s

joining us from the cdc headquarters in atlanta is robert ray. what are we expecting from this press conference this morning? >> good afternoon, david. dr. thomas frieden is likely to come out and answer some of the questions you just brought up, and also probably go into detail about the new team that has landed in dallas will be investigating, what they're going to be sifting through. what they will consider the breach, the protocol breakdown and figure out how that occurred with the nurse and the potential for the fact that there may be other health workers that may come down with symptoms in the coming days. we're expecting to hear from him very shortly. as you say a lot of controversy--you know, one of the biggest questions that we keep hearing if this hospital wasn't prepared or up to par to treat someone with the ebola virus, why didn't they originally move there duncan to university of nebraska in omaha or even here to atlanta to emory university hospital, which is just a few blocks down the road from the cdc. >> there has been controversy

there's going to be a news conference from the cdc coming up shortly. you know this is going to be topic "a" and this story has ratcheted up considerably because of the fear factor, the concern people have about what this means and the fact it wasn't all contained here in dallas. it went outside dallas to another city and back with passengers along for that ride. >> and, mark, even within dallas, from the briefing we heard earlier and at 1:00, there's going to be another cdc briefing and we'll be hearing more. even within dallas, we were told repeatedly that cdc was on the case, they were there in dallas, that hospital was doing the right thing. now we learn that they acknowledge they were late to get there and that the procedures clearly failed. now, you still have not been told you all covering it in dallas where the breach was, but clearly, according to at least the nurses who were overnight on that conference call organized by a labor of organizations representing nurses. there were serious breaches from people who went in and out of containment in t