what comes out of the cdc at the end of the day is dr. redfield's conclusions around science and evidence with the support of his team. that is how we operate and that is how we are going to keep operating. yes. reporter: the cdc guidelines on [indiscernible] being within six feet of someone for a total of 15 minutes or more. it is reported there is an to shorten the isolation or quarantine time for schoolchildren [indiscernible] can you talk about that? dr. redfield: sure, thank you very much for the question. think to take the big picture, as we said before, the cdc is science-based and data-driven. as a consequence, as we get more data and understand the science of covid, we will continue to incorporate that in our recommendations. originally, contact, as you know, that was considered to be high risk for potential exposure to covid was someone within six feet that was for more than 15 minutes. there is some recent data that has, that has been determined, the individual who had a series of shorter contacts, but over time, added up to mo

in this. >> i think in the report one of the recommendations is an independent review of the cdc and i think at this point, what we do need in order to rebuild confidence is an independent review that looks at the question of what types of influence as you describe occurred at the cdc and o whether other issues and i think that will be an important part of rebuilding confidence in the cdc, an organization i had the opportunity as you describe the work with and depend on in terms of the incredible work and the work around the world area we use south korea as an example. outbreak that they learn from , that we talked about sort of how they learned was they depended on our cdc experts. that was at a period in time where that was the largest case, those were the largest cases of the middle east respiratory syndrome outside the middle east and they called upon cdc to be partners in developing their response so i think we have to return to the place you have described. it's an important place for us as a nation in terms of how we on scientific, fact-based information and the cdc has his

the cdc is science-based and data-driven. as a consequence, as we get more data and understand the science of covid, we will continue to incorporate that in our recommendations. originally, contact, as you know, that was considered to be high risk for potential exposure to covid for someone within six feet that was for more than 15 minutes. there is some recent data that determined, been but that individual had a series of shorter contacts, but over time added up to more than 15 minutes, became infected. clarifying that new science, that new data into our contact recommendation is what you are alluding to. that, it is raised on data one did not have four months ago but it is data now that we have based on situations so we reported it. the second part of your question , could you say it again for a second? .eporter: efforts in quarantine dr. redfield: as you know, the data we have right now that is individuals that have had a high-risk exposure have a. -- a periodr that of time after that when they actually become undetectable

and how will the cdc get that trust back in your mind? core when you read things like that, and you see intense after intense of political interference of one's work. i think it can be regained, where cdc where it's clear there is a firewall between the work that cdc is doing and the political level that would be attainable, and there are thousands and thousands of scientists, professionals who continue to do great work, and they are putting it out. you can see the work, and you can see it in other places, when you have to filter it and the you're not sure which tie items are coming forward that are pure public guidelines, then it's really challenges. it's much easier to maintain, and regain it once you lost it, and taning that trust requires on going lady communications from the scientists at the cdc directly to your public. >> and the vaccines, alex aczar projects the u.s. will have enough vaccines for every american who wants one by april or march of 2021. do you they is a realistic time line? he was standing next to president trump whe

a committee advise the cdc, the advisory committee on immunization practices. extremely important. itn fda approves a vaccine, will come into this committee at cdc to make recommendations on who should get it, when it should be given, how it should be given. very important process to make sure that there is no political aspect to that. host: richard besser joins us from the robert wood johnson foundation. obama on the cdc for the administration back into thousand nine. if you want to call him with questions, it is 202-748-8000 for the central and eastern time for the02-748-8001 mountain and pacific time zones. we will take you back to your time at the cdc. the administration at that time had to do with h1n1. could you compare and contrast what you learned during that process? i suppose the good things and bad things you learned, particularly kind of talk about how that applies with coronavirus relief today? at cdc duringd democratic and republican was intrations, and i charge of emergency response for the years at the end of bush administration. as the acting director. i was a civil

the cdc has put its name to guidance about opening schools. this news also comes on the heels of our own reporting of director redfield ordering his own cdc scientists to water down their recommendations on meat p packing plants on a recommendation. robert redfield may have lied to congress when he was questioned about the meat packing thing a few days ago. he asked to speak with tammy baldwin by phone, which is an unusual thing for a cdc director to ask for a phone conversation with a senator. she spoke with him on the watering down of the meat packing situation. it's something for the cdc director to have succumbed to the trump administration in the middle of a virus that has killed over 2 million people. it's bad enough they've been succumbing to pressure from the white house, but if this cdc director lied to congress when he was asked about doing that, that is another level of danger for the director, and we don't know if director redfield has had that call today or tonight with senator baldwin or if he will be reconsidering or changing his

the cdc and fda and really it does require a single point of contact in the white house to coordinate the inner agency but also it's going to be a global effort and so you also need someone of th at the ambassadorl at the state department to coordinate the international response. i think all of those pieces lead to a quicker more effective and efficient response. >> i'm going to bring tom in right now. there is very strong language in the report about [inaudible] before we get to the other part about moving forward and what specifically should be done, there is a lot dedicated to why we are in the place we are now. and i want to start with china's performance and lack of transparency early on in the pandemic. what are some of the takeaways? >> thank you. first, i'm pleased to be here. i'm grateful for your willingness to do this and i want to express my gratitude to sylvia and fran for the job in this task force. i'm grateful to have had worked with them and other task force members as well as my colleagues and the large team that is responsible for this large report. so, the report d

the cdc director is considered of resigning. if he were required to over see policy that compromised public health. he apparently thinks this cruise ship policy compromises the public's health. his threshold for whether or not he'll resign. that's why i am raising these flags right now. because this comes right at the hills of "the new york times" this week about the cdc advise of opening schools being over ruled or circumvented by the white house. cdc put its name to guidance about reopening schools. that's what the white house wants and not what the cdc's scientists believe what's right for public health. this news comes on the hills of our reporting. director redfield ordering his own scientists to water down their recommendation on meat packing plant. of pressure from the administration. "the washington post" is advancing that story reporting on concerns that robert redfield may have lied to congress when he was questioned about this meat packing a few days ago. we learned robert redfield asked wisconsin u.s. senator tammy ba

vote 'yes' on prop 19. >>> the health lead, inside the fall of the cdc. propublica" describing the crisis and handling of the pandemic with internal e-mails and interviews that report details how white house pressure left cdc officials muzzled and how politics and missteps at cdc, one revealing frustration over revising guidelines on reopening churches, cdc's head of coronavirus respond told his colleagues, quote, i'm very troubled on this sunday morning there will be people who will get sick and perhaps die because of what we were forced to do, unquote. i want to bring in "propublica" patricia callahan among the journalists breaking the story today. you've interviewed more than 30 cdc interviews, contractors, trump administration officials. you're reporting opens with that frustration from cdc's chief official on coronavirus response around memorial day over changed guidance on church reopenings. describe what led to that e-mail. >> the center for disease control cd head issued safety advice for houses of worship earlier in the spring. the white house fou

the president complained of the cdc guidance on reopening schools. and according imparted very tough and expensive. how expensive was the life. into into that classroom. after the president complained. is revealing too any new coronavirus cases. in all called him again. slowly down the testing. hhs altered key testing guidance. they claim the people without symptoms did not need a test. even if there were exposed to the virus. that decision was reversed only after this select subcommittee and any others objected. when the president complained, deep state at the fda is not moving fast enough to prove treatments for the november election, the fda recommended thousand therapy of their rejection of top scientists. the secretary, president of the press conference. in repeated false statistics about the therapies effectiveness. now the ministration appears intent on politicizing vaccine. in the president is pressuring the fda to approve the vaccines before election day. and cast doubt on the efforts to ensure that the vaccine would only be approved based on

the white house declined the cdc's offer of contact tracing. declined the offer of experts by contract tracing by the cdc. think about that. why would the white house decline the cdc's expertise in this. what are they trying to hide? even if the white house is doing their own robust contact tracing which there is not evidence of, it can be effective because contact tracing do not have the critical information needed to accurately warn people. that's because the president refuses to let anyone reveal when he last tested negative. there are two critical questions tonight. when did he test negative and when did he first test positive. the president is trying to cover that up. that is a fact. we know this because his own doctor refused to give those details citing hippa laws. laws design to protect patient privacies. those laws can be waved when the patient is willing to have the information known. the president does not want you to know when he last tested negative. instead he's making his doctors cover it up. >> on testing, can you tell us when he

the cdc has to be invited. ey do not have the authority to go into a state to conduct an investigation. >> the former pandemic preparedness chief roughly resigned today. his attorney put out a statement saying, he no longer works for the administration. he went onto assign no meaningful work since september 4th. i don't know if you know him particularly but i mean how concerned are you about what's happening to science in this administration? >> i am very concerned of the mixed messaging from science and politicians and they're not being guided by the best science. i think anyone who's in a leadership position in government especially in a science position has to have a line in the sand that they're not willing to cross. any sicientists willing to go against the science due to political reasons, really need to look in the mirror, why am i in this job. >> up next, i will speak to patty davis, daughter of nancy and ronald reagan. how about no no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual

allow the cdc to put out accurate public health guidance. the fda approved treatments and vaccines in their approving safe and effective, not when they're politically convenient. and that constant stream of disinformation coming from the white house. to control this virus we also need the administration finally in place a coordinated national strategy to respond to the pandemic. a strategy i have been calling for since the subcommittee's very first briefing in may. the plan must include a strategy to increase testing and chronic shortages. and also other supplies and will effectively and efficiently and equitably target the test that we have. the federal government must also use resources to procure and distribute masks. metro there see and will be helpful the white house would send in the back to the plan and send a mask to everybody and i would be pleased with the president to have the presidents signature on it. metro to see that. and he's now requiring that his name be a letter signed by him being another one of those boxes from the sampl

including the director of the cdc. a new version was less restrictive of the ledger services because of the first amendment, because someone at the cdc went ahead and published the original unapproved document online anyway. when this was discovered, the employee said, it was within bounds to publish incongruen int guidance. no one was punished. something similar happened last week when the cdc posted and retracted an alert on transmission. if these weren't mistakes. although, that's how the media reported them. they were deliberate attempts to sabotage the oversight of elected officials of the cdc for political effect for the benefit of one political party. the people responsible for this should not be working from home, they should not be working for the pro-government period. this is what you're doing? we will continue to monitor the story. i'm next, a highly detailed book about what's actually happening inside google, facebook, and twitter. the most powerful companies in the world working to change the election resu

the cdc is the premier epidemiological organization on the face of the planet. when we go to other countries as i did before the covid pandemic, they are named the blank centers for disease and control. this is the crown jewel of the american public health. but cdc plays a rule in what is an unprecedented pandemic. it's been 100 years since we've had a public health crisis of this type. this is bigger than h1-n1. this is not sars or mrsa. cdc plays a very important role in that. it plays a role of public health and epidemiology. there are other key players even within my department. mental health agencies, opioid abuse during the pandemic. nih and fda around research and counter measures. veterans department around care for our veterans, the defense department around force for protection. transportation, dhs around transportation issues, international commerce, the state department, international relations. spread of disease globally. the cdc plays a very important around vital role but in a pandemic of this scope, size and magnitude, it plays a role, not just t

north carolina as the daily cases have peaked and the president is downplaying the fatalities as the cdc projects another 23,000 americans may die by the end of the election week. the president is in miami as he and joe biden prepare to take place in competing town halls tonight. it is the alternative to the second debate canceled because mr. trump refused to participate virtually. straight to the chief white house correspondent jim acosta in miami tonight. the president is complaining about the town hall tonight and renewing the attacks on dr. anthony fauci. >> that is true, wolf. the president is on the way to miami after he backed out of what was supposed to be a presidential debate the joe biden and he is claiming hae is set up in the town hall which is not true, and he is attacking one of the top health experts dr. anthony fauci even after the president was using him in one of the campaign ads saying that he is fine in one of the campaign ads claiming this is fine. >> reporter: on the dueling town halls, the president is saying that there are imaginary forces against him from the ne

more bad science from the cdc? edicine cabinet is here in moments, they will walk us through the latest walk back from the government and the response to dr. fauci's comments on covid lethality, stay there. ♪ acelet that had the names of her children. she asked me, 'doctor, am i going to be okay?' and i could not give her the answer that i wanted to give her. there is no excuse for why we don't have this under control at this point. joe biden listens to medical experts. he actually has a plan that does the things that we should have been doing many months ago. and joe biden is not going to let his ego get in the way of fighting the disease. ff pac is responsible for the content of this ad. >> you've got to look to the science. >> the white house deciding its smarter, it can do things better than the scientists who are trained to do this for a living. >> listen to the experts. >> listen to the science.to >> laura: which experts? their experts, the ones that keep e contradicting themselves. they seem to flip-flop on t

is the president breaking his own cdc guidelines by working from the oval office and walking from theesidence to the oval office? >> yeah. the cdc guidelines are pretty clear on this. i mean, he has known covid disease. he should be in isolation. isolation is for people who have disease, quarantine is for people who have had exposure to the disease. it's vel clery clear and cdc gue gives you how long he needs to be in isolation. we can show this. basically, you know, admittedly, people might clear virus at different levels but as a general rule, ten days since people develop symptoms, you want to make sure they are likely to be contagious. at least 24 hours since the last fever. without using medications. important to point out that the president has been on dexamethasone and probably still on it but the doctors have not told us one way or another. that will suppress a fever. so it's really hard to read into his symptoms right now. he absolutely should be in isolation. it's not good for him to not be in isolation. it's not good for the people around him. >> let me read from the cdc gu

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cdc's guidance. so dr. redfield is the director of the cdc. as i said in my opening statement, we harness the best doctors and scientists to our agency, dr. fauci, dr. birx at the white house as a national coordinator. there is debate, discuss on any of these critical guidances but at the end of the day if guidance comes up from cdc it's dr. redfield. if it is at the approving, it's fda privy. if it is an aids trials and data than it is in nih. >> unclutter september 18 you reversed yourself and recommended that asymptomatic people to get tested if they are exposed to the virus. we are currently seeing a spike in many cases, in many states. has hhs determine how many of these new infections may be the result of americans following your inaccurate guidance that they first read before it was corrected? >> that would affect nothing to do with the spread of disease. what we are seeing is community-based transmission now in the upper midwest and the northwest. we had an initial come some cases coming from universities getting back together but that

thee white house does oversee te cdc, it always has done. apparently, theouse asked thely cdc to lease data on the mental health cost the coronavirus lockdown, that's a completely fair question. 's costs have obviously been profound. the white house also asked the cdc to incorporate data on coronavirus deaths of people under the age of 18, again, a totally fair question that the public has the right to know the answer to. the cdc apparently from us with an outrageous request, releasinr scientific data to the public? no way! that could hurt the biden campaign. they want instead to hide the data showing that children are not actually dying from this virus, because the more afraid you are ahead of the election, the better. what happened on monday was not unusual.ma back in may, cdc produced draft guidance on restrictions of religious services. that guidance was rejected by officials in washington, including thees director of the cdc, robert redfield. officials agree on a new version that was less restrictive of religious services, in part because, oh, yeah, th

. >> there are millions of people that are still hurting and i worked across the aisle by which the cdc curve respond to the public health crisis and that is and the overall package for care spending and covid-19 it is impacting the country and for all of those and this distract for the quality of life. host: that concludes the first portion now take turns asking each other question and now karen you may ask the first question. handel: i would like to know since we are in the middle of the supreme court hearings do you support packing the court because the process in the nomination andno process with the supreme court justices to come to the house of representatives and the judiciary committee so yes or no do you support the legislation to expand the supreme court? >> as a two time breast cancer survivor i and concerned about the record on healthcare because she supports the decisions that would take away the affordable care act for millions of people and also william who know what's best for their body and all the people want to pack the supreme court and president trump and frankly i

more bad science from the cdc? medicine cabinet is here in moments, they will walk us through the latest walk back from the government and the response to dr. fauci's comments on covid lethality, stay there. ♪ >> you've got to look to the science. >> the white house deciding its smarter, it can do things better than the scientists who are trained to do this for a living. >> listen to the experts. >> listen to the science. >> laura: which experts? their experts, the ones that keep contradicting themselves. they seem to flip-flop on the science more than the cdc itself and the agency declared that covid particles can hang in the air for hours and infect people more than 6 feet away. just two weeks ago they put up and took down guidance on the exact same topic, so what is it? last month the cdc reversed its stance that people without covid symptoms didn't need a test, and in june the cdc admitted that covid does not easily spread after all of us are freaking out about our fedex packages and amazon packages, they've be

richard investor the acting director for the cdc under president obama. started with your reaction to president trump still contagious going to the oval office this afternoon. white house chief of staff mark meadows and aide, president trump's social media adviser have been with president trump in the oval office today. what do you make of this? >> what i would love to see is our political leaders modeling the behavior that cdc and local and state health departments are calling on every to do. that is if you're infected you need to stay away from other people. jake, for millions of americans, that is not possible. people live in apartments with multigenerational households. for someone who has the ability to stay away from other people, they need to do that. >> meanwhile, the cdc director said that it is safe for vice president mike pence to attend tonight's debate in utah. i have to say the cdc's own guidance says, quote, stay home for 14 days after your last contact with a person who has covid-19. we know the president -- i'm sorry, vice president pence

>> the has definitely put out messages. i know that currently cdc is working with the racial ethnic approaches to community health and funded groups to look at flu vaccine messages specifically focused on adult influenza and those groups that were funded through that project. i think that when we look at those messages ensuring people at the local level can then further take what cdc has put out and look to see what messages resonate with their particular population. whether that is the ability to have formative research or the ability of just knowing your community and your community population and the way in which the messages may resonate. people we areny particularly very nervous about this flu season, particularly about what could possibly be a emic.deming -- twin-d flu hospitalizations and covid-19 cases increasing and again experiencing --pitalization >> is available and effective and folks should take their flu vaccine starting now and well into december and onward if possible. >> i agree with michelle. clear and consistent messaging is impo

we have done this in partnership with the cdc. this has been underway for number of months in the state of california. this formal role in partnership. it relates to the effort we have long been in the vaccination business. our experience of mass vaccination makes us a unique partner for the cdc and dod. based on the scale and scope of the vaccinations that occur on an annual basis here and typical due course here in the state of california. consider 19 million annual flu shots typically distributed here in the state of california. in 2009, around distribution of vaccinations and therapeutic related to h1n1. the work we have done historically with hepatitis a. and of course childhood vaccination protocols. well-established partners at the grass roots level with information gathering, confidentiality agreements, and the like. giving a sense that the experience with vaccinations is well established here in the state of california. as we work to advance the protocols and partnerships as we advance our formal planning and engagement wi

>> steve osunsami, who has been at the cdc for us for months. steve, thank you. >>> coming up, newly released video this evening showing an officer attacked inside a police station. >>> and we remember a very >>> now to the body cam images made public tonight in a brutal attack on a los angeles police officer. jose guzman fighting with officer anthony freeman, beating him in the head with the officer's gun. >> he's got my gun. >> a shootout erupting. no one was hit. police tackling guzman a few blocks away. that officer did survive. >>> when we come back here they do one of the most deven in normal times.s, our frontline health care workers. and when these heroes lack the resources they need, that risky job gets ten times harder. prop fifteen makes corporations pay their fair share. to invest in our communities, in our clinics, in the essential workers who treat everyone- rich, poor, and in-between. whether it's this pandemic or the next health crisis, vote yes on prop fifteen. for all of us. zb >>> singer/songwriter johnny nash has died. best kn

helped them which you would expect the cdc to do we know the cdc is helping us state governors forxample do contact tracing in the places where president trump traveled to however for some reason the white house is not involving the cdc. >>alexander le mon reporting for us live from washington. thank you for that information. >>i just left walter reed medical center. and it's really something very special the doctors, the nurses, the first responders and i learned so much about coronavirus. and one thing that's for certain don't. let it dominate you. don't be afraid of it you're going to be that we have the best medical equipment we have the best medicines all developed recently. and you're going to beat it. i went i didn't feel so good. and 2 days ago i could have left 2 days ago 2 days ago. i felt great like better than i have in a long time i said just recently better than 20 years ago. don't let it dominate don't let it take over your lives. don't let that happen with the greatest country in the world. we're going back with them back to work will be out front. and you leader i

than in the cdc, so my faith is more in the w.h.o. than in the cdc. st countries around the world actually follow what the w.h.o. say, and when we hear -- president donald trump coming out, taking his mask off, saying not to be afraid of the virus, not even mentioning the first lady, if she is ok, does that mean that authorities have to be even harder in trying to make people understand that this is a serious virus? sam: sure. to a degree you kind of answered your question there by showing w.h.o.ou know, all the can do is give advice. then the governments, it is up to them whether they take it. even you have infighting within countries, so the spanish government has a view and the madrid governors and people around the city have a different view and pushing back. same in marseille. unfortunately, that comes down to how strict the top government wants to be. francine: how close are we to a vaccine that will be distributive? are we closer than we were three weeks ago, or is it still touch and go? sam: every day and every week that passes we are getting t

tonight, the cdc ripredicting 20,000 more deaths until election day. >>> the new covid setback for the nfl tonight. the team now sending players and coaches home. >>> and remembering an all-time major league great. >> good evening, and it's great to have you with us as we near the end of another week. but it is not going to be an easy night ahead for much of the gulf coast. as we come on the air tonight, the major hurricane bearing down now on the u.s., making landfall this evening. hurricane delta, wind up to 100 miles per hour. this is the tenth named storm to hit the u.s. this season alone. that's a record. the fourth to slam into louisiana this year. ahead of this storm, the urgent rush to safer ground causing traffic jams on the roads out of lake charles. the route to houston, two and a half hours or so taking ten hours for some. lake charles hospital evacuating its smallest patient from the neonatal intensive care unit. tarps cover homes already damaged by hurricane laura. fierce winds and giant waves as the hurricane moves in, flooding already tonight. an anxious night ahead for

the cdc has never recommended against asymptomatic testing. what the guidance posted on august 24 said was testing for individuals with symptomatic illness, individuals with significant exposure including those who are asymptomatic vulnerable populations and healthcare a center workers here what happened was there was a statement in the guidance that said asymptomatic close contact do not necessarily need to be tested. the idea was they wanted to ensure people not be a negative test as a get out of jail card. that they were done because of course you have an incubation period make. they want to make sure you consult with a medical professional or public health person to guide you through the time of the potential incubation. that was so misinterpreted outside that the cdc then later revised that to clarify and say yes, test asymptomatic, close exposures. >> well, i think from the very beginning scientists were saying that asymptomatic, you could get the virus from an asymptomatic person. you could get it from molecules in the air and that -- th

the cdc is now redefining the term close contact. it previously defined close contact as someone who spent 15 consecutive minutes within six feet of someone who's infected. now that definition is changing. can you walk us through the new guidance? >> essentially it's based on an incident where a prison guard was in contact with a number of people, prisoners who were subsequently found to be infected, and the total amount of time he spent with each of them separately added up to about just over 15 minutes, but not all at one time. so it does appear that exposure to individuals at close contact within six feet is cumulative rather than just one event. >> there's new research on the dangers of carpooling. one study finding the trip to and from school on a bus can be more dangerous than actually being at school. what's the take-away here? >> this really points to the fact that very close contact, especially within poorly ventilated areas with a large number of people can still be a big risk. it really does come down to close exposure, an

the cdc said the same.st in those critical three weeks the opportunity to see where the virus was going and to contain it. even after testing was finally approved, the administration hadn't prepared for the infrastructure to administer testing so we didn't have swabs, we didn't have a system set up. it's in such bold relief to what happened in south korea which discovered their first covid patient on the same day, january 20th. seven days after that happened they had a full system up and running with pharmaceutical firms working with the government to administer a national testing and tracing program throughout the country. as a result, south korea never had to shut down its economy and today with a population of 51 million people, less than 500 people have died. >> i was going to ask you about that, the comparison to south korea, but you laid it out right there. they didn't have to shut their economy down because they got up and running very quickly first with testing and then with contact tracing. they al

can we talk about the morale inside the cdc, seeming like the morale has plummeted in the cdc, staff news that intense pressure to align with the narrative even though that narrative could misalign their work could damage the reputation. we know the president has criticized the cdc and this organization has had an impeccable reputation throughout its history. also the new england journal of medicine going so far to say that they're worried about the cdc's reputation. can the cdc bounce back from this, dr. patel? >> i have close friends who have been career scientists and have worked for the cdc for decades. they are holding on by their fingernails. they are dedicated people who really don't care about the politics, they care about good science. that's what we want them to care about. i tell you this, if there is not a change in leadership in many directions, including the white house, there will be incredible exodus from the cdc and other public agencies. by the way, that's been by design. the trump administration has actually inserted unqualified political appointees which is unchara

they are not saying that the cdc is helping them. the white house going on to say that a cdc epidemiologist has been detailed to the white house since march but it's clear that more than one person is needed to try to drill down on this very important contact tracing that is needed right now after the president's diagnosis. john? >> as you note, yet another example of the white house deciding it's smarter, it can do things better than the scientists trained to do this for a living. nick, thank you very much. >>> coming up for us, early in-person voting begins in ohio and indiana. the ohio secretary of state joins us next. - got a taste for a deal? want a hamburger, some fries, a drink, nuggets? boom, rewarded with the wendy's '4 for $4' perk on grubhub. (doorbell chimes) - grubhub. (upbeat music) >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story. this couple was on a camping trip... ...when their windshield got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really?

as we do that we cited data directly from the cdc. pulled off their website as well as other scientific sources. "science" magazine for example. one study found that more than 70% of patience who contracted the coronavirus said they had always won a mask. another 14% said they usually did. we told you that last night we posted the segment on facebook. today we learned that facebook is calling our reporting "partly false." we quoted the cdc! they restricted the distribution of the post to prevent people from seeing it. we can't say this enough. the data that we put on television last night were from the centers for disease control. we use their numbers. we didn't make them up. but facebook censored it. where is this going exactly? saagar enjeti is an opinion post at the hill and we are happy to have them. where is this going? >> it's a great moment in american history. it's a declaration of war by the big tech companies in this particular case. we need to understand this for what it is. it's an in-kind donation in the hundreds of milli

the cdc guidelines say he should quarantine. you're trying to saying he's running all over the country, meeting voters campaigning, an essentially worker business -- i don't think it is, but why is he not wearing a mask? i haven't seen any pictures of him on the tarmac or anywhere wearing a mask. should the american people follow the cdc guidelines or not? the vice president is not. >> well, i can tell you he is wearing a mask. he will be wearing a mask today, as we have this. obviously when you have an exposure, you have to take additional mitigation factors to do that, but the other part of that is this, jake. even the experts are talked about, when we talk about masks, if masks is the answer and man adapt i masks is the answer, can we put students back in schools? >> should americans following cdc guidelines? >> will they be safe? and the answer was no. >> should americans follow cdc guidelines? >> so certainly americans should following cdc guidelines. >> they should? does that include the president. >> that includes the pres

you brought the cdc. we are paying close attention to the cdc.they are scientists and experts much more than i would suspect any of us ever paid to the cdc for covid. talk about the power. with the national review. they were a piece that headlined the cdc and the power grab and i think one question here is one really relevant here. if kids food residential evictions. with the administrative state what can't the administrative person do. there are still trails around what congress can do it is an extremely broad power. under the commerce clause. they have permitted congress to most of what it wants. that's not really commercial behavior. guns in schools. that's not really commercial behavior. it has to involve some sort of commerce. they let it go pretty far. it was a challenge to the federal drug laws. someone was convicted under federal law. i wasn't selling it. and arguably it could affect the president from the new deal. at the same basic logic where a farmer was using as own crops for his own uses on his own farm. even though you're not selli

director for the cdc and he joins us he served as director for the cdc and hejoins us now. wondering is was vice president biden exposed during the debate on tuesday? that would have been about 48 hours before the president's diagnosis, and we usually go back 48 hours to say when someone may have been infected. because president trump has tested regularly, concerned that he was infectious during the debate are somewhat lower, and shouting and raising your voice increases the risk of spreading covid. ensuring by vice president biden has two negative test will have the monitor to see whether other people at the debate then you also are positive around that time, and what of the risk may be. i don't know if you've looked at the reports we've had from the white house doctors, but they are saying that mr trump is receiving covid synthetic antibodies. can you shed some light on what they are? this is an experimental treatment. there's only data on a few hundred people who gotten it in a roiling trial. the idea is if you use these anybody's very early before someone who's made thei

>>controlling the cdc's message. a new details about how th >>details tonight about a bombshell report over covid-19 information messaging the associated press says that the trump administration installed political operatives at the centers for disease control the purpose to oversee what information made its way to the public our washington correspondent trevor shirley reports. >>the associated press says the white house and stole 2 republican party operatives at the cdc in june to try to manage the information the cdc released about covid-19 the trump administration took unusual steps to control the flow of information the story's author e p reporter jason dieron says it's not clear how much either operative actually influenced what the cdc told americans about the pandemic now congress is investigating this and the role of these political operatives in the meantime congress also continues to work on another covid-19 relief bill senate majority leader mitch mcconnell plans to bring what he calls a targeted 500 billio

at the cdc, a letter from a former director to the current one is opening eyes wide. dr. william foege, who worked under president reagan, calls the government's response a "slaughter," and says the current cdc director needs to expose the administrations mistakes even if it costs him his job. >> and i kept hoping that the task force would see what they're doing isn't working and would change. but this is going to go down as one of the worst responses to a pandemic. >> reporter: here at the cdc, the director has shared no public sponts to that letter, but there is something new tonight from "the new england journal of medicine." the respected medical journal is out with an unusually harsh critique of the trump administration's response to the covid crisis, using worlds like reckless and dangerously incompetent. david? >> steve osunsami, who has been at the cdc for us for months. steve, thank you. >>> coming up, newly released video this evening showing an officer attacked inside a police station. >>> and we remember a very popular singer tonight and his signature song. no

so pence's team says accurately that that means the dividers are not medically necessary, so says the cdc. the campaigns and the debate commission are expected to discuss this issue later tonight, and you can watch the debate tomorrow at 9:00 eastern on nbc >>> the covid outbreak in the white house and highest levels of our national government keep spreading, and now it reach the pentagon, and there's a late breaker. nbc news confirms some of america's top generals are self-quarantining after the coast guard second in command tested positive. defense officials tell nbc news that the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the heads of the air force and space force are all quarantining because they, too, may have been exposed. nbc news confirms a fourth white house press office staffer and one of the president's military valets have also tested positive president trump is still infected but says he plans to debate joe biden next week, even though he might still be contagious according to the cdc somebody infected with covid can spread the virus for up to 20 days after first showing sympt

they learned that he see went on, and that's why their guidance, including from the cdc, changed. that's not the way the president has used it. he hasn't gone after the surgeon general for what he said about not wearing masks earlier on in this pandemic. instead he's chosen only to attack dr. anthony fauci who, of course, has higher approval ratings and has been prominent in interviews. so the response to the pandemic is going to be a question of how that looks in the eyes of voters who so far have rejected the president's handling of coronavirus, and that's something he even acknowledged at his rally last night in pennsylvania. i was there, and he was saying if it had been pre-pandemic he likely wouldn't have needed to go to a place like erie, pennsylvania like he was last night because his numbers are so good. but he acknowledged that his standing has been hurt by the coronavirus, and that's something his advisers worry will cause him to lose re-election just two weeks from today. >> last night during his rally in erie, he criticized the commonwealth of pennsylvania for having mo