exact same thing about the cia but so do you think that just means that they've shifted more to proxies for example like the president somalia that jeremy scahill reported on. yeah well you're making a criticism but john you has been articulating a number of prisoners on the republican right their argument right now obama to see the black hole where i think it's right that simple and i think and you put your finger on it i mean there are the robert that relationships the u.s. intelligence community develop with really intelligence community the usual people and somalia cases one case where we noticed there was a major relationship that's war with the moroccans ordaining and we know what happened with the park expanding its unraveling smeary very slowly right now with the afghans and the iraqis but certainly the cia has many many relationships of this sort parable and most senior cia officials don't like the idea of running prisons to start with they think they are applicants know the training of the resources they

is up to so the more militarized the cia becomes and the less we know. well that's right i mean i think we have you know we have the armed services committee and we have the intelligence committees in congress and everything to do with the cia is the maynards of intelligence committees which are very tightly controlled but i think we've seen over certainly over the course of the last six or seven years the process of what sociologists call capture that is the agency dominate the maybe the merits very little harsh oversight or critical questioning of the agency because on the intelligence i mean it's a little bit war and the armed services committee but not a lot more so i think i think they're in an area extremely weak oversight and now we see the possibility of raging military operations in or so avoiding any serious aggression roadsides that's i think the big concern that the worst. and so if we have an intelligence committee that the cia basically runs the intelligence committee like you're saying in the cia i mean this is just checking up and judging

the cia began building its base there in 1955 with the youth 2 spy plane because the cia wanted to spyssia and see what they were doing. one of the other men i interviewed was pretty stockman. he had two month ago, really interesting side note that the men that i interviewed are really in the last chapter of their lives. but her be stockman explain to me what it was like to be the first man to fly over the soviet union in u2. he agitated nikita khrushchev greatly and there was a lot of fallout between the eisenhower administration and the soviets over this buying that was going on. but at the same time, what stockman brought back in the film canisters of his u2 was over 400,000 square feet of film of spy footage, about what was going on in the soviet union. as he said to me, the cia was able to learn and understand that in fact the soviets were not lining up for world war iii as many members of the air force wanted to believe. certainly general lemay who is a character in my book as well. you might call him the antagonist. when you consider that the cia's job is to present intelligence

the cia and fbi and nsa and all the other agencies. it took me about a year to complete a decent catalogue of the government entities and corporate entities that work in this world. >> narrator: they discovered they were the only people in the country collecting such detailed information. the only way they could verify any of it was to go there in person, hundreds of secret locations hiding in plain sight in office parks. >> priest: this is a gate to... to the nsa? >> lane: there's a government facility back in there. you'll see it better after we turn down this road. >> narrator: inside buildings like these, they launch drone strikes, gather and spread secret information, engage in cyber conflict. >> lane: you've got titan in here. csc is in one of these buildings. general dynamics. >> priest: so you really have the big mega-firms, the giants of this whole industry here: northrup grumman, boeing... >> lane: with a security station here at the front where they... they check out the cars and look underneath. >> priest: yeah, that... so

the cia wanted to know if one of the men was khallad. soufan took the photo back to quso. >> and he said, "this guy looks like khallad, but he just looks like him. i'm not sure if it's him." >> smith: soufan was incensed that the agency hadn't shared their intelligence months earlier. the cia asked him to look at yet another photo. >> and basically, my answer was, "how many people need to die in order to know how many freaking photos there is out there?" so we get another photo. i mean, i didn't need to ask quso. obviously, it's khallad. we know what he looks like. this is definitely khallad bin attash. >> smith: khallad was linked to the 9/11 plot. from malaysia, he had flown with two of the hijackers, khalid al mihdhar and nawaf al hazmi, to bangkok. from there, mihdhar and hazmi bought tickets and flew to los angeles. >> now we know why quso delivered the money. >> smith: so you're looking at this... >> yeah. >> smith: ...and you're seeing al midhar with khallad, and you're told in the report that al mihdhar was on flight 77... >> yes

islamophobia on the other we're asking the former chief obvious i'm a bin laden tragedy units in the cia michael. who were still attack in u.s. history terrorists hijacked four planes and two of them into the twin towers of the world trade center in new york city one into the pentagon while do force was presumably targeted at the white house in washington. it crashed into a world the horrific attacks which al qaeda eventually admitted left some three thousand innocent people dead and created a perception that no place soon earth is safe from the threat of extremism the immediate u.s. response was to war on terror declared by president george w. bush it instigated highly controversial military campaigns in iraq and afghanistan they were on terror has been criticized many times it's counterproductive because in a further escalation of violence one of the legacies of nine eleven is the guantanamo bay detention base where l.h. terrorists have been held the methods used that have been condemned by organizations like amnesty international and human rights watch is something which turns a war o

up next hour into the show spotlight and in this judicial days michael sure therefore what cia man has a son of bin laden's childcare host i would often ask him whether the leader's death has changed anything in world politics. hello again they're welcome to spotlight the interview show on our c i'll do it all from today we're charting a ballot nine eleven. this year marks the tenth anniversary of september eleventh attacks in the united states two passenger airliners crashed into the world trade center buildings in new york and one into the pentagon building in d.c. almost three thousand people died in the attacks started a new era u.s. led a war against terror which sparked two major military operation in iraq and afghanistan just two months ago the u.s. enemy number one salah bin ladin was killed in pakistan but did his death really change any of the ten years down bin produce any result except the growing insurgency on the one hand and islamophobia on the other we're asking the former chief of the assam a bin laden tragedy unit in the cia michael showing. who were stare at tuck in

it's dedicated to the heroes of the cia, fbi, military. when you work with somebody on the front lines and you're far away in dangerous areas, you only have each other to depend on. so many of the heroes in the book basically are cia officers from the cia officer who, you know, tried to get all the information from a detainee so the detainee cannot be rendered to a cia officer who actually walked before me out of the zubaydah interrogation and came home. he said, that's not worth it. to a cia officer in guantanamo bay who basically was a phenomenal leader in guaranteeing there is no institutional barriers between the entities down there and all of us work for uncle sam. so i have a lot of great appreciations for the men and women in the cia and we have to actually remember one thing, rachel, that it's because of the employees of the cia, the enhanced interrogation techniques and that program was shelved. it was them who went back and complained to their inspector general and a lot of complaints happened over the years. then the inspector sw

losing the job when the cia once again did it. well i resigned finally b.s. they i resigned. because i had managed to speak publicly about this i think the most important issue for the united states and certainly its allies in nato is to realize there is no way to win this war or to end this war as long as our foreign policies remain the same in the in the muslim world as long as we support whatever the israelis want to do as long as we're the primary backers of the saudi police state as long as we. are dependent on oil in the middle east. all that means this war is that this war will continue that the islamist movement will continue to grow and that we will be in essence the the engine of islamism because it is our foreign policies and their impact that genuinely motivate the enemies that we face in the field today we certainly have failed miserably in killing enough of the enemy we haven't killed nearly enough of them but killing is never enough you have to have policies that they're kind of make recruitment more difficult in the coming generation and so far since nine eleve

the cia demanded heavy cuts. it is, he believes, part of a wider attempt to control the official account of 9/11 and allow us 10 years. -- the last 10 years. >> in response to the allegations in this report, the cia issued a statement to the bbc saying, "and suggestions that the cia purposely refused to share critical information on the 9/11 plots with the fbi is baseless." adding, "the cia suggested -- any allegations that the cia suggested the allegations because it does not like the -- suggested reductions because it does not like the content is ridiculous." japan.to japanow to there are fears that the worst hit town from the tsunami may never recover. 5000 are still missing. >> the water, you would think, for a tsunami survivor would be terrifying. the six months ago, xchihiro was swallowed by the waves. she saw more than half her swimming team swept away. today, she is back in training and says it holds no fear. it when japan's earthquake unleashed a tsunami, her team was swimming near the seashore. this is n

on the cia, ironically the military unit has maintained a level of secrecy and the cia hasn't even been been able to pull off. but these two organizations in particular, and i argued the fbi, too, the counterterrorism focus organizations that have experts that have been looking at this for a long time not reinventing the wheel and doing the sort of broad dragnet approach to the counterterrorism analysis, they have been successful in killing off most of the 9/11 organizations that perpetrated 9/11 we see things popping up in al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. but in general, no one in government has had an honest conversation about what is the strength and what al qaeda and those that match not only the amount of the resources we are putting into finding them still but the sort of resources and in this book we talk about many organizations wanting to go to counterterrorism because there's a place to be to help out, but they have no expertise. the end of reinventing the wheel, and to me that was the most frustrating part of the book is seeing these large military organizations when there'

that's the former cia chief and osama bin laden tracker under the spotlight is coming your way. hello again our walk and truth squad like the interview show in our sleep i'll do it all for him today and we're talking to a bad guy until. this year marks the tenth anniversary of september eleventh attacks in the united states two passenger airliners crashed into the world trade center buildings in new york and one tenth of the pentagon building in d.c. almost three thousand people died in the attacks started a new air raid u.s. led war against terror which is part two major military operation in iraq and afghanistan just two months ago the u.s. enemy number one salad bin ladin was killed in pakistan what did his death really change any of this big ten years now being produced any result except the growing insurgency on the one hand and the flower phobia on the other we're asking the former chief obvious hamad bin laden tragedy units in the cia michael kelly. who were stare at a target in u.s. history terrorists hijacked planes and koresh two of them into the twin tower was of the

you're talking about the cia. >> not as an agency. e in the agency knew that nawaf hazumi were in the united states. we were looking to people connected to the u.s. assault for a few months. for about more than a year in yemen. and here are two people who we know from our investigation have met with the person who facilitated the attack and his job was to videotape the operation. and one of the suicide bombers in southeast asia. and we put at least three requests for information, not thinking then they knew. we're investigating, we're getting information. we share the information with everyone. and hoping that any intelligence agency, law enforcement, you know, anybody who has some information to share it with us because we're investigating the death of 17 of our heroic sailors who perished on october 12th of 2000 on the "uss cole" in yemen. nobody told us anything until ten years to the day, december 12th. ten years to the day. i still don't know the reason why the information was being withheld. i don't know if it's intentional or no

it's a major tactical victory it's a wonderful victory for the cia of the united states special forces we're much better off as a as a country and i probably as an alliance with him dead but the time has long past where he would have been his killing would have been sufficient to end the problem mr clinton had that opportunity ten or twelve different times in one nine hundred ninety eight one nine hundred ninety nine it would have made a real difference there but bin laden it's very good that he's dead he was a very talented very inspirational leader but the movement the islamist movement is much bigger today much more geographically dispersed than it was at nine eleven primarily because of the invasion of iraq. our invasion of iraq and subsequent occupation really created a situation that did for bin laden and al qaeda what it probably could never have done by itself the occupation of iraq made al-qaeda it turned out to rather from a man and a group into a philosophy and a movement and now we're living with that philosophy and that movement mr sure why did you why does you say that bi

i was covering the cia and the intelligence community. bill arkin, a long time defense analyst, and he works on a lot of documents. he was seeing a pleat dpelethra of code names on job sites and all sorts of areas. they were not warrior, things we assign to wars but things like sky rider, pin wheel, things that didn't make sense, and there were hundreds and hundreds of them, so he was seeing this happening in his way in a very document-oriented way. i, at the same time, was uncovering a lot of the programs that were set in place among the most secret of our agencies, the cia and special operations military units, and as i learned more and more about those, those needed more and more support organizations, but as well, every unit in the military that could call itself now a counterterrorism unit or could make a case, and they didn't really need to make a very strong case, couldn't get funding from congress to try to do something about it, and i saw also a proliferation of these sort of secret organizations that frankly, you know, at the ti

he left the location... >> logan: another cia agent on the ground? >> soufan: yeah.ually, he left before me. and then... and then we finally reported to headquarters that, you know, "this is what's happening," as i called it in the d.o.j.-- department of justice inspector general-- report, "borderline torture." and-- fbi headquarters said, "you know... you know we don't do that, just..." and, eventually, after that, they pulled all fbi agents from high-value detainees interrogations. >> logan: soufan never saw abu zubaydah again, and only occasionally saw these techniques being used after that, but he claims that when president george bush addressed the nation in 2006, the american people were being misled. >> president george bush: we knew that zubaydah had more information that could save innocent lives, but he stopped talking. it became clear that he had received training on how to resist interrogation. and so the cia used an alternative set of procedures. >> soufan: i think somebody told the president some fake information, some false information. zubaydah did no

i was covering the cia and the intelligence community. bill arkin is a longtime defense analyst and he looks a flood of of documents. he was seen a plethora of code collaborating on government contracts, jobsite, the code names for different. they weren't like justice is shared and thinks that we assign. there were things like anchovy and sky writer in pinwheels. and there were hundreds and hundreds of dead. so she was seen this happening in his way into very documented oriented way. i had to save time with a a lot of programs set in place among the most secretive of our agents these, cia and special operations military unit. as i learned were it more, those needed more in order support organizations. but as well, every unit in the military that could call itself now a counterterrorism unit or could make a case and they didn't need to make a strong case could get funding from congress to try to do some about it. i saw also a proliferation of the circus secret organization that frankly at the time we both decided this was something worth d

the u.s. cia is very skilled at this information and it's interesting here because the attempt is to play this in front of arab audience is this show gaddafi is being the u.s. ally even though the forces fighting it i have had a coordinated six month bombing attack with nato and the u.s. on their side but this is playing to arab nationalists so that the n.c.c. can be seen as some sort of anti imperialist front when in fact they are agents of u.s. imperialism well they should be looked at in the context of the rock that was a temporary one as it turns out where libby essentially tried to get itself off the sanctions that had you know they suffered for a decade or so and to be allowed to trade in the international community the cost was very high i guess that shows that collaboration with the united states does not guarantee that you'll be able to continue in power the allegation is that al qaida is very heavily nested into m.t.c. if this group actually ends up being the government of libya they cam

things like we really should i mean i think he is the perfect imperial cia director. and i'll be back with the recap of our top stories in about ten minutes time but next more insight into what's happening in a libya with a leading a middle east analyst in our latest interview. i'm joined by rosemary hall is the professor of middle east policy studies at city university in london rosemary thanks for speaking to r.t. so how well has the international community handled the libyan crisis will you make a distinction between the nato members some of whom are extremely proud of what's been achieved so far in libya and the broader international community who are adjusting to developments in libya and deciding to be on the side of the future though not every government around the world has yet recognized and accepted the national transitional council as the government so did they do the right thing to begin with i think the u.n. responded to an emergency the arab league made a plea for some sort of intervention to save the citizens of benghazi from massacre . but only over the

the cia demanded heavy cuts. it is part of a wider attempt to control the official account of 9-11. >> in response to the allegations in this report, the cia has issued a statement saying any suggestions that the cia purposely refused to share critical lead information on the 9-11 clocks with the fbi is baseless. the suggestion that the central intelligence agency has asked for reaction is because it lacks content is ridiculous. the cia declines to comment on the record about accusations about waterboarding. >> makes sense of international news at bbc.com/news. >> funding for this presentation was made possible by the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vermont, and honolulu. newman's own foundation. and union bank. >> union bank offers unique insight and expertise in a range of industries. what can we do for you? >> bbc wor

our attention on the cia.ronically, this military unit has maintained a level of secrecy that the cia hasn't even been able to pull off. but these two organizations in particular, and i'd argue the fbi, too, the counterterrorism, the very focused organizations that have experts that have been looking at this subject for a long time; not reinventing the wheel and doing broad sort of dragnet type approaches to counterterrorism analysis, they have been successful in killing off most of the 9/11 organization, most of the al-qaeda that perpetrated 9/11. we see things popping up, you know, al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula. but in general, nobody, no one in government has actually had an honest conversation about what is the strength now of al-qaeda and does that match not only the amount of resources we're putting into finding them still, but the sort of resources? and in this book we talk about many organizations that wanted to get in to counterterrorism because it was the place to be, and they wanted to help out,

record at a time the commission wanted to blame the cia. ad george tenet say we did a terrific job and the commission saying it doesn't appear you did a terrific job because we have this monumental terrorist attack. >> host: interesting character in the drama before the commission and after the commission he has written his own book. one thing you make clear is in the reporting that the commission which was made of democrats and republicans came to not believe george tenet to be credible. when he would come to testify and make it clear he forgot a few things and there were things he could not remember doing and what eventually recall in his memoirs. i am a little uncertain as to what the explanation is. i suspect you are too. is very best guess you can make about why his performance in front of the commission was more ragged? >> guest: i heard the allegation that george tenet represents a certain client. he wants to make a person in front of him feel good. he wants the person in front of him, wants to give the answers to the person in front

the man who headed up america's moves in iraq and afghanistan is now top dog at the cia general david petraeus spent thirty seven years as a soldier but is now at the pentagon after president obama's national security reshuffle his predecessor the impasse is now defense secretary to discuss this bring into the conversation how to go and she's assistant professor at new york's university gallatin school thanks for being with us it's appreciated now general petraeus was of course known for leading the country into iraq and afghanistan two very unpopular campaigns one of his new appointment tell us about the thinking of the american decision makers right now that. yes well you say that the campaigns were very unpopular but petraeus got away with being a very popular general and i think that obama's appointment. as head of the cia reflects the sentiment that is a hero according to most of the american public so you think it's a good thing that he's been put in charge is a good movie oh no i don't but i think that it reflects obama's strategy. many people have been calling the war in afgha

has an ever expanding drone program they just don't talk about it we talked about the fact of the cia has in fact become a killing machine instead just of. some intelligence gathering agency but the mainstream media conveniently ignored that story too so what a shock and they also ignored a ruling from a federal judge last friday and the cia gets to continue not having to release any records related to its use of drones to kill in afghanistan pakistan and elsewhere now the a.c.l.u. brought this lawsuit of a judge there rejected the notion that lethal drones are really involved in acquiring intelligence too so if there's some intelligence acquiring going on then the cia gets to stay out of the reach of all scrutiny all legal bounds who cares if they're killing people it's for intelligence so more money spent more drone strikes are launched more lives are taken all without anybody anybody able to hold the cia accountable and that's actually thanks now to the courts in this country but that's what the mainstream media chooses to miss because they'd rather keep getting surprised that ther

the man who headed up america's moves in iraq and afghanistan is now top dog at the cia general david petraeus spent thirty seven years as a soldier but is now at the pentagon after president obama's national security reshuffle is pretty panetta is no defense secretary let's get some reaction to these military musical chairs shall we and talk to retired four star general cone. thanks for being on the line tonight on r.t. general petraeus presided did me over the long running of let's face it unpopular campaigns in iraq and afghanistan what do americans make of now being in charge of the national security was the word on the streets. most americans are not paying attention they are just not paying attention to what's going on in washington. smooth operator who has a great reputation in the media here in the united states so he's popular he's seen as on in. the congress like so and i think in many ways he is a. great agree cover for what the cia is continuing to do and what it will continue to do what. they often say during their new broom sweeps clean what changes come we expect at the

agree i agree cover for what the cia is continuing to do and what it will continue to do what. they often so do the new broom sweeps clean what changes come we expect at the cia then under patrol. well it's hard to say he has a way of making really bad things look good his. experience in iraq and afghanistan he has made it look successful even when it's not been successful at all i mean he doesn't stand up to washington he just takes what they give him and kind of wraps it in new wrapping and it sells he's almost like an advertising dream so the cia has a terribly bad reputation and has done terribly bad things looking at cheney's two increasingly become involved in military operations military style operations that is you know not constitutional it's not part of what the cia should be doing i expect the traitor at the cia will be able to spin their for media consumption as a good cia he will make it look good even though i don't think fundamentally will change anything here probably continue it exactly as it has been going you see your take is that he's got one reasonable broad

director petraeus on your new role in the cia. you'll do a great job, every place you've been, you flourish. we appreciate all you've done over the last decade for this country and look forward to watching you progress in the next few weeks and months. i do have a question about our foreign lang capabilities, and, you know, one of the united states greatest weaknesses is collecting intelligence around the world beuse we have a small group of intelligence officials with enough foreign language capability and specific areas of expertise to access denied areas and blend in like locals, we just don't have enough people who have at expertise, but coness has supported programs like ncep, the boren psychological lores and -- scholars and fello, and my question is what has the intelligence community learned about penetrating terrorist groups over the past decade? have we made sufficient strides in develops foreign language capability, and have we seen any improvement in our ability to collect intelligence as a result? >> well, i think the

the cia and the u.s. government supported seven different afghan factions who were fighting the soviets. the arab factions, osama bin laden was one of the smaller arab faction leaders. they were never funded by the u.s. government or the cia. they prefer did mostly out of saudi arabia and a collection of other donations from gulf arab states. they had a different goal. the afghans just want their country back. the saudi backed mujahedin wanted to create an islamic state in afghanistan. these two groups didn't work together. they have a common goal in that they liked to kill soviets but the arabs didn't like to kill them very much. there were very few reliable accounts of arabs fighting soviets. they spend a lot of time fighting each other. one thing i realized was the car bomb before it existed there was something called the camel bomb where they load camels with explosives and allow them to detonate against rival arab factions in afghanistan. so into this mix plunges ksm. he goes to see founder of what l

director petraeus on your new role in the cia. ou'll do a great job, every place you've been, you flourish. we appreciate all you've done over the last decade for this country and look forward to watching you progress in the next few weeks and months. i do have a question about our foreign lang capabilities, and, you know, one of the united states greatest weaknesses is collecting intelligence around the world because we have a small group of intelligence officials with enough foreign language capability and specific areas of expertise to access denied areas and blend in like locals, we just don't have enough people who have that expertise, but congress has supported programs like ncep, the boren psychological lores and -- scholars and fellows, and my question is what has the intelligence community learned about penetrating terrorist groups over the past decade? have we made sufficient strides in develops foreign language capability, and have we seen any improvement in our ability to collect intelligence as a result? >> well, i thi

things like we really should i mean i think he is the perfect imperial cia director. take a look now at some other stories making headlines across the globe the trial of ousted egyptian president hosni mubarak over the killing of protesters in february is set to resume in cairo the hearing will be held off camera unlike previous sessions monday the court adjourned the trial after the hearing after hearing the testimony of several witnesses before the session scuffles broke out between pro and anti mubarak protesters outside the court leaving ten people injured. british lawmakers are considering a recall and the chairman of news corp james murdoch for further questioning over the phone hacking scandal a day earlier two former employees of the country company suggested he misled m.p.'s about his knowledge of widespread hacking at the company james murdoch has maintained that until recently news corp thought the illegal phone hacking was limited to one reporter who was jailed in two thousand and seven murdoch and his father rupert have already faced a committee of m.p.'s

military operations military style operations that is you know not constitutional it's not part of what the cia should be doing i expect the trades at the cia will be able to spin there for media consumption as a good cia he will make it look good even though i don't think fundamentally will change anything here probably continued exactly as it has been going i think the d.c. establishment will love what he does at the cia and you know we will hear much more here negative things like we really should i mean i think he is a perfect imperial cia director. take a look now at some other stories making headlines across the globe the trial of ousted egyptian president hosni mubarak over the killing of protesters in february is set to resume in cairo hearing will be held off camera unlike previous sessions monday the court adjourned the trial after the hearing after hearing the testimony of several witnesses before the session scuffles broke out between pro and anti mubarak protesters outside the court leaving ten people injured. british lawmakers are considering a recall in the chairman of news corp

commander in iraq and afghanistan has now become america's top spy he's taken over as director of the cia replacing leon panetta who's moved on to become defense secretary a former u.s. air force lieutenant colonel karen quiet koski believes petraeus will serve as washington's p.r. man to hide the community intelligence of the intelligence community shortcomings. petraeus is a smooth operator who has a great reputation in the media here in the united states so he's popular he's seen as on inside. the congress like something and i think in many ways he is a great degree to cover for what the cia is continuing to do and what it will continue to he has a way of making really bad things look good. his. experience in iraq and afghanistan he has made it look successful even when it's not been successful at all i mean he doesn't stand up to washington he just takes what they give him and kind of wraps it in new wrapping and it sells he's almost like an advertising dream so the cia has a terribly bad reputation and has done terribly bad things looking at these two increasingly become involved in

things like we really should i mean i think he is the perfect imperial cia director. is next with dmitri stay with us here on alt. morning and welcome to the business update on r.t. moscow's largest construction company in tech around changed hands mid-cap landa been bank boards ninety five percent of the company from you in about today another wife of the former mayor of moscow burbank took the remaining five percent of the company's been valued at one point two billion dollars but given its debts the value of the deal could be about two hundred million but when it became the richest woman in russia with a three billion dollar fortune during her husband's stewardship of moscow. was fired last year by president medvedev over a lack of trust he often claimed his wife's business success had nothing to do with his running russia's biggest city. to look at the markets now will is up with nymex and brant both up around forty one cents per barrel forty one actually to be exact that's ahead of an energy department report which is expected to show a decline in stockpiles as tr

>> the tip that captured ksm came through the cia. the largest cia station in the world is in islamabad, pakistan. they are fishing where the fish are, and that's where most major al-qaeda figures have been killed or captured. ksh is catchtured, and that famous photo of his hair askew and that hairy-chested photo, he was woken up sleeping on a floor, i believe the spare bedroom on the second floor of a house. s that is a joint operation -- that is the joint operation, the pakistanis were involved, but the intelligence originated with the cia partly through a walk-in. you know, anyone who's been to the spy museum knows that most of the time walk-ins are not trusted by embassy personnel or cia personnel because there's all sorts of reasons for walk-ins. um, sometimes it's a foreign service just trying to test the agency's procedures or to discover who is the intelligence officer in that delegation. and sometimes it's people offering false information for money. but this particular walk-in announced that he was going to be seeing ksm for

the cia didn't give it to the fbi. if you have a map of al qaeda, largely drawn from the telephone number, imagine drawing eight lines from yemen to san diego in january 2000. how obvious would it be? >> host: he was going back and forth getting new visas. >> guest: he pressured the muscle hijackers then it became one of the 9/11 nurse. >> host: one less scared are missing from the book. the religion of islam. it is so disturbing as they read this and the most recent article in "the new yorker," to see what is rather smallish group of people have done to their faith. and for someone who has lived in egypt and saudi arabia, friends everywhere. that's a painful story for muslims to see people debating the degree of savagery that is important, this colt is no longer their religion has come to define it. talk to me as we close out. >> guest: well, as long as in a period of introspection. relations change over time. christianity is certainly not the same as it was during the inquisition. every religion -- i. could go down t

the cia demanded heavy cuts. is, he believes, a wider attempt to control the official account of 9/11 and the last 10 years. >> and now to japan word has been six months since the massive earthquake an sazanami that brought such widespread destruction to the north of the country. almost 16,000 people are known to have died and nearly 5000 more are still missing. there are fears that the worst hit town may never recover. here is this report. >> the water, you would think, for a tsunami survivor would be terrifying. six months ago, he was swallowed by the waves. he saw more than half of his swimming team -- she saw more than half of her swimming team swept away. but today she is back in training, and she says, with no fear. this is new footage of that day. the town lies submerged. the building with the arches is where she was trapped. after the disaster, a teacher showed us how she did -- she survived. a mark on the wall shows the tiny space where she found she could breed. of her teammates, seven died. -- where sh

highest ranks as general david petraeus moves to the top job at the cia. but first egyptian police have been put on a state of high alert after protesters attacked israel's on the sea in cairo they destroyed a wall near the building and tore down the israeli flag replacing it with an egyptian one hundreds of demonstrators had been injured police using tear gas on the crowd israel's ambassador along with his family was flown out of the country anger swelled last month after israeli forces responded to across the border a militant attack mistakenly killed five egyptian police the protests also came out of china in time of change seven months after the popular uprising that ousted hosni mubarak from power thousands i gather in the capital stalker square urging an end to military rule and pressing for urgent reforms the president of the arab warriors' associations are worries islamic groups might ultimately benefit from the . the various political movements vying for part of the ad trying to show who is bigger than the other i think this demonstration it's only