but the individuals cia suppressed that and why? and the socialy tell you secrets are power and they lied to congress about this. in all of these cases, and there are dozens more reviewed in my book what is the consequence of this? and the answer is no negative consequences at all. so no firings, no demotions, no penalties, no fines and in fact the people who make these mistakes are viewed as the people who have chalk on their cleats to quote director michael hayden. they are the people that are aggressive and the ones we want at the top and they end up at the top of the cia. the cia today is populated at the pentacle with the people whose stories are recounted in this report. and this is the topic of i think a remarkable speech given by mark udahl who is saying we are not setting up tribunals but why are the people who did these things running the cia? we should have turnover in the personal. and i think the aggressive pushback from the cia is to brunt that and protect individuals who made gross errors and who now run the cia. >> so

the government is only looking at the cia. e of the same republican senators making those comments are the people who insisted that that be so. they insisted that in fact there would be no review of what was going on inside the white house and other agencies and for obvious reasons they were afraid that the results could be publicly embarrassing to the white house and other senior administration officials inviting from their week at the launch of the program and it becomes a multi-year exercise that is quite remarkable. we have any lawyers or commercial litigators here? >> what you see going on is exactly what goes on in the american commercial litigation. so with the cia saying we are entitled to do the review before we turn it over we can't just be asked to turn it over and we have to have plenty of time to do that and because we are dealing with top-secret matters, we are going to put in place all of these special precautions such in fact are going to take years to put into place before you can even get down to starting the

but the cia agents are angry. m says they think he has gone rogue. >> again, i improvised for myself. i took control. >> aren't they supposed to be running you rather than you running them? >> in the ideal world, probably, yes. >> bottom line, the cia can't be picky. to locate and eliminate awlaki, they need storm, and they are willing to pay. if his plan works. you get a quarter of a million dollars from the cia when aminah crosses into yemen? >> that's correct. >> after seven weeks, storm sent back to vienna for another meeting with aminah. the next step in the match making. he shows her this video from awlaki. >> this recording is done specifically for sister aminah. the brother who's carrying this recording is a trustworthy brother. >> what's her reaction when she's watching that video? >> she's full of joy and tears. you do really know him, she says. you do really know him. >> i hope you are well. >> then storm has her record a video for awlaki in return. >> my brother, it's me, aminah, and i just want to tell

i did start working for the cia overseas. came back to washington, d.c., works for them back here and that it was a series of overseas and back home and overseas and back home. it was a way to see the world. i highly recommend it. we have mentored a lot of young people into the cia. it's a profession, an honorable profession, a great place to w ork and dissipate to give back something to your country. i'm so proud at having served their. -- served there. having said all that, let's talk about some of the people we were working against. some of the enemies we were confronting, some of the techniques they were using, some of the techniques we use to try and stop them or at least nullify what they had done. in this lead up to valentine's day, i get hanna koecher as a subject. hana was one of the most attractive, really beautiful blue-eyed blonde, czechoslovakian intelligence officers working in the united states. she's an elusive woman to track down. she was part of a team. she and her husband came as a unit. they work as a unit.

i think, maybe, the cia gentleman behind "the americans," wiseman? i believe he was interviewed about this phenomenon of these shows that are based on former cia employees. that is the point of the show on sunday. >> [inaudible] >> abc. george stephanopoulos. they will address that. the thing that strikes me is the enduring popularity of the subject. i find it amazing. >> what you have, and many of you will remember in 2010 the y arrested 10 russians living here as what we consider illegals. if you recall, they traded them back, they being us, the u.s. -- for four people they had in prison. it was a fascinating exchange, it reminds you of the department of agriculture catch and release program for fish. we caught them and release them. [laughter] what you saw recently is the arrest of an individual in new york, in the banking industry, living as an illegal. that is, he was undeclared, he was not declared as a foreign agent, he happened to be russian. his two handlers happen to be in the russian embassy. in the case of "the americans," the big distinct

the obvious outstanding question about the role of the cia. i first approached the agency in 2009 after i returned to dc from moscow. i pulled pulled together what it together what had been written about the agencies involvement and the names of those that were suspected of working on the printing and prepared a memo about the potential book that i wanted to write. none of you probably will be surprised that the first response i got back from the office of public affairs was that the agency was not interested. i understood under the freedom of information act i would like to get nothing if i went that route and instead i spoke to a number of retired officers such as yourself and i would like to pause to remember one of the former members, the former cia officer and former journalist for "newsweek" and time who was helpful to me and who died before he could see this book through the good offices of bruce and some other retired officers the subject was path to the attention of the historical records division and are one of the meetings it was sug

so it starts with an invitation from the cia and the fact of this right now. and our staff went through the cables from various outposts and came back with a quick summary. and the summary was that it's very clear from what we read in the cables that the program, the interrogation program, does not respond to what was briefed to the committee. there are different techniques that are being used which are much harsher and it is much larger in scope. for some it seems far more severe than anything that we were told about before. this presented with the leadership with a dilemma on the basis of this sort of sample probe being told that you are misled about this. what to do. and then the decision was taken which was at the outset almost unanimous, all but unanimous, to go ahead and commission a full in-depth review of all of the cia documentation from the beginning. in the scope of review was also a matter of some controversy from the outside. in fact you will hear prominent leaders in the senate republicans saying that this report is no good because it doesn't dea

, the media and the american public. third, cia'sgement of the program was inadequate and deeply flawed. and fourth, the cia program was far more brutal than people were led to believe. >> do you remember when you heard this report in jail, were you were? i assume you watched dianne feinstein on the prison tv -- and your thoughts about it? >> i was sitting in the central one unit tv room watching it with bated breath. let me say that senator feinstein is one of the cia's leading supporters on capitol hill. so for dianne feinstein to come out with a report as critical as this report was, just shows you how wrongheaded the cia torture program was. >> the report comes out and it details a list of torture methods used on prisoners -- waterboarding, sexual abuse with broomsticks, what they call rectal feeding or hydration prisoners threatened with buzzing power drills in some captives were deprived of sleep up to 180 hours a time with hands shackled above their heads. the torture carried out up like sites in afghanistan, lapointe, romanti

he used the cia said his relocation to the united states which included essentially white washing his record of any notations to his nazi service, was what they called a reward for his cia service and in view of the quote-unquote innocuousness of his nazi activities. now, innocuousness is an odd choice of terms when you consider who he worked for in germany. his boss in the jewish affairs office was a man who i'm sure you know, named adolph eichman. the architect of the final solution. in the years before the war, he was not only a mentor and advicer to eichman and the nazis but a policymaker who devised ways of terrorizing the jews in the hope that they would be so victimized they would flee germany and europe altogether, so this is what he wrote for okay eichman in a paper in 1938 called the jewish problem. he wrote: a largely antijewish atmosphere must be created among the people in order to form the basis for the continued attack and the effective exclusion of them. the most effective means would be angering the people leading to excess in order to take away the sense of security

and as the senate report from the cia, the quantity and type of intelligence produced my zubaydah remained largely unchanged by the use of torture. kiriakou has come to feel very differently about the cia's detention and interrogation program than he did back in 2007. when we spoke yesterday, he gave me his perspective on what happened to abu zubaydah, starting with the mission to capture him in pakistan back in 2002. >> we were told by headquarters at the time that abu zubaydah was the number three in al qaeda. that turned out to just not be true. he actually had never joined al qaeda. and he had never pledged fealty to osama bin laden. but he was an al qaeda associate. and he was the director of al qaeda's two training camps in afghanistan. so, as such, even if he wasn't the number three in al qaeda, he was a pretty important target for us. >> but you're operating at the time thinking, we've got the number three. >> oh, yeah. >> you must have been stoked? >> oh, absolutely. in fact, a lot of us felt it was just too good to be true, that, you know, we've hit this one guy, we've hit this o

the white house. and in a couple of cases, people died in cia custody. i always maintained that there were torture techniques worse than waterboarding. sleep deprivation can make you so crazy you can't participate in your own defense. that's inexcusable. it's illegal. the cold cell, where a prisoner is stripped naked, placed in a 50-degree cell, and then has ice water thrown on him every hour. people die from those kinds of things. why aren't those officers prosecuted? >> that's interesting. so the line that you see for prosecution should be that things that were done within what agents were told was in the bounds of the law shouldn't be prosecuted, even if that actually retroactively was an

the white house. and in a couple of cases, people died in cia custody. aintained that there were torture techniques worse than waterboarding. sleep deprivation can make you so crazy you can't participate in your own defense. that's inexcusable. it's illegal. the cold cell where a prisoner is stripped naked, placed in a 50-degree cell and then has ice water thrown some him every hour. people die from those kinds of things. why aren't those officers prosecuted? >> that's interesting. so the line that you see for prosecution should be that things that were done within what agents were told was in the bounds of the law shouldn't be prosecuted, even if that actual retroactively was an erroneous legal judgment? >> exactly. i believe it was an erroneous legal judgment. i think that the justice department's office of legal counsel was wrong in issuing those opinions. but if you're a cia officer at the working level and the justice department says, go ahead and do it it's legal, well, if you don't have a moral problem with it what else are you going to do? >> but

and so we inside the cia felt that it was -- it was our fault. you know, we should have been able to find these guys overseas, we should have been able to disrupt the attack. we should have worked with the fbi which we famously different. >> how palpable is that? if i'm walking around languagely a week after 9/11, is it -- >> most people there in the building on 9/11 didn't leave for the first couple weeks. i slept under my desk for three days before somebody told me you really need to go home and take a shower. we even -- on the moving into the night of 9/11, you know, toward september 12th, we actually got bolt cutters and cut the lock off of the cafeteria door and stole all the food. it was a marriott contract. stole all the food and cooked it ourselves and placed on big tables in the hall so people could eat and not stop working and that went on for days. we ended up having to write a check for something like $15,000 for stealing all their food. most people didn't leave. if they left, it was only to take a shower and change clothes and come ba

>> well, i think one thing is how well can the cia do its job? and do we have the civil liberties guidelines in place? in order to do the job, you have to have technology experts in place. and they may not be the best for handling a human source for human tense but they may well be the best people for getting the data that you need and putting it into a package. >> let me set up the ultimate concern about privacy here. bren be said that he's trying to tackle the challenges, and can you describe some of those? >> i think that the big challenge is that the cia is operating in human intelligence, far away from headquarters and in the nsa they didn't have the same technology. when i was in the group that president obama formed, we found that the nsa had hired 300 people to do compliance on technology to make sure that it's done right. and i don't think that's at the cia, and i don't think that the cia has the civiller liberties officer the way that the nsa does, with snowden. and in this case, the nsa has tried to move it along and made good steps and

membership around the time the p cia was trying to have contact with hamas despite an official band andpy cables we have our exclusive report. >> reporter: the spy cables show us just how the u.s. israel and palestinian authority play political games with each other. >> the general conference has voted to admit palestine as member of unesco. >> unesco gave the state full membership in 2011 and abbas sought recognition since and they talk how they fight the policy to the highest levels and one 2012 cable reveals a secret call from the white white house to the leader and president obama threatened president abbas if he went ahead with the u.n. bid and just as the u.s. was pressuring palestinian authority it now emerges they were seeking contact with hamas, a group it considers a terrorist organization. a secret cable reveals a cia operative in east jerusalem to ask a south african counterpart to put them in touch and says the cia is desperate to make in roads in gaza and recommends they help and doing so they will benefit from the interaction and have requirements of the cia so in other w

so we inside the cia felt it was our fault. uld have been able to find these guys overseas and should have been able to disrupt the attack, at the very least we should have been able to work with the fbi which we famously didn't. so there is this feeling of collective guilt. >> how palpable is it? >> most people who were there in the building on 9/11 didn't leave for the first couple of weeks. i slept under my desk for two days before somebody told me you really need to go home and take a shower. moving into the night of 9/11 towards september 12th we actually got bolt cutters and cut the lock off the cafeteria door and stole all the food and cooked it ourselves and just placed it on these big tables in the hall so people could eat and not stop working. and that went on for days. we ended up having to write a check for something like that $1500 for stealing their food. most people didn't leave, or if of they left, they went home just to change clothes, take a shower and come back we did it to make up for this massive guilt. >> i

jonna herself was made chief of disguise at the cia, running that multimillion dollar program. there were a variety of people who are tech ops folks around the world. and she then retired from the agency in 1933, receiving the intelligence -- [laughter] all right. we will take it from the top. [laughter] she shook her head, and then you all reacted. she retired in 1993 and earning the cia's intelligence commendation medal. since then

so in other words they would know what the cia is up to. ile in 2009 south africa spy chief gets a direct phone call from assad boss mayor and is shocked at the breach of protocol and orders staff to ver vie the number and later a meeting and wants south africa to vote down the gold stone report a u.n. factfinding mission after the gaza war and richard gold stone led it and crucially the report said israel committed numerous war crimes. mayor says the palestinian leader abbas privately supports israeli position and also wants south africa to vote it down according to the top man he felt in favor voting in the gold stone report would weaken his position and in this way it reveals how the u.s. israel and palestinian authority are having alliances they would never admit to in public. >> joining us is the director of al jazeera's investigative unit interesting stuff, clayton, what do you think this says about the palestinian authorities standing with the americans, the relationship with them? >> well, with respect to the cable saying that the am

they say they want to keep the cia torture cases on parliaments agenda. >> to soccer now, and europe's champions league action continues this evening in a short while. much of the night, german side, schalke. >> tuesday, bayern munich failed to score in their match. >> people around the world have begun celebrating the lunar new year. >> according to chinese tradition, the year of the horse has drawn to a close in the year of the sheep has begun. for people in vietnam, the holiday has ushered in the year of the goat. >> the streets of hanoi's old town were filled with shoppers stocking up on new year's decorations bearing images of goats in the lucky colors of red and gold. the chinese call it the year of the sheep but in vietnam, it's a goat. the animals are seen as interchangeable in chinese culture. in hong kong, they were both noble and baser sentiments for the coming year. >> i wish everyone good health and to live and work in peace and happiness. maybe property prices can be lower so people can buy flats easier. >> speaking of commercial concerns one south korean cafe owner is ca

he also works for the cia. really? the epa and the cia. they did something really extraordinary, the government has never done this and never will again. they asked somebody at the cia. have you heard of jonathan veale? they said who? here is what they discovered. he does not work for the cia. he had been going on for 11 years. do you know what his specialty is? global warming. he has been doing this for 11 years. they finally fired him. going to prison, if he is not already. on the way out they could not do it in the proper way. anybody would have fired him. he would not be eligible for pensions. even on the way out they could not do the right thing. i'm imagining what this guy's life must've been like. is boss calls him, jonathan, we have not seen you. are you coming in? i imagine him at his house. i imagine he has a swimming pulled. he makes $150,000 a year. 100,000 people make under that a year. i imagine he is drinking a beer, he is in his lounge. the boss calls him. here is his response. no, i'm in istanbul on a secret assignment. [la

they infiltrated the cia and gathered top-secret information to the use of sex. one popular washington, d.c., swingers club counted at least 10 cia staffers any u.s. senator as members. that is tonight at 6:30 p.m. eastern on american history tv. >> monday night on "the communicators," we spoke with two industry executives at the consumer electronics show in las vegas. the senior vice president at ericsson and the cisco senior vice president. they talk about their companies and the technology on which the internet, mobile phones, and the cloud operate. >> in ericsson, we talk about a network society. and the network society is a society where everything that can benefit from having a connection will actually have one. and we put a a vision forward in 2009 in barcelona in the trade show over 50 billion connected devices in 2020, which has caught on very well in the world. and that opened many people's minds that the mobile industry is not limited to the smartphone and the devices we carry around personally. it also is a great technology that connects so many other

so the cia had a nuclear scientist on their payroll. these plans that had the secret flaw in them. they thought the iranians wouldn't be able to spot the flaw. and they sent the russian intermediary to shop the flaws to iran. and that's where it went wrong, because the russian scientist guy did give the iranians these plans for their nuclear weapons, but the russian scientist guy also told the iranians where the flaw was, where the wrong part was. so this supposedly genius plan to set back iran's effort to build a nuclear bomb, it might have actually helped iran progress further on the nuclear front. because once they knew to avoid that flaw that had been deliberately placed in the plans that the russian guy tipped them off to, once they worked around that flaw, the plans were helpful in building centrifuges which they needed for their nuclear program. this too-clever by half plan, turned out to backfire, turned out to help the people that the u.s. was trying to hurt. so, okay, try again. that happened in 2000. in 2010, this time, it was

. >>> the spy cables leaked documents show the cia tried to establish contact with hamas, despite an official ban. >>> and fifa shows the red card to a summer world cup in qatar, recommending a move to the winter months. ♪ >>> fighters from the islamic state of iraq and the levant have kidnappeded at least 90 people from christian villages in the northeast of syria. the syrian observatory for human rights says the villages were attacked on -- monday morning. they are working to find the missing people but have so far had no luck. >> translator: until now we haven't been able to contact any of the hostages as i said 90 to 150 people were kidnapped and two are missing so we think they have been killed. >> more now from zana hoda. >> reporter: the islamic state of iraq and the levant managed to push into a number of christian villages in the northeast of syria, and they captured at least 90 people. that is according to activists on the ground the syrian observatory for human rights telling us they are not even sure how many of the 90 people are women and children and the community is wor

and the cia blocked access to the dia for these documents.it is because the administration has a see no evil, and hear no evil approach to it al-qaeda. the president was in campaign mode and making the case that he was successful and run a successful nonwar, war on terror. and with the death of osama bin laden, would come the death of al-qaeda. it was not true. we heard from former head of diowa a that he was making the case that what the president said was not true in the campaign speech. >> what is the impact of this on public safety? >> we should certainly know more about this. the administration tried to make the case that osama bin laden was a lion in the winter in his latter years and before he died. as i understand it with people who have knowledge of the documents, the evidence shoes that bin laden was anything but and he was actively involved in the plotting and you have had people that worked for the administration saying that there is a lot to learn from these documents and osama bin laden for instance may have had a stronger hand

. >> today in a broadcast exclusive interview, we spend the hour with the retired cia agent who blew the whistle on torture. he has just been released from prison. he will join us from his home, where he remains on house arrest while finishing his two-and-a-half-year sentence. in 2007, kiriakou became the first cia official to publicly confirm and detail the bush administration's use of waterboarding. >> i've come to believe firmly that torture is wrong under any circumstances. it is not something that a civilized society should sanction. it is something that we as americans should oppose. >> john kiriakou is the only official to be jailed for any

or what was the oss which became the cia. it is important i think remember why this happened in the first case. many people say why did we have our allies spying on us, why did the british need to spy on us. most americans forget that in 1940 when churchill first ascent -- sent stephenson's over here to start building up a secret network the war was extremely unpopular in america. it was still called the european conflict and american newspapers well over 90 percent of the country adamantly opposed to becoming involved in the war. something called a land lease bill was been heatedly debated in congress and to look like a pass. roosevelt who is firmly with churchill who wanted to help churchill and wanted to send a -- aid to england could not be seen as lifting any hint to help england without losing his chances of reelection. the british desperately needed america's health, heather by now have marched across europe, he was only two or three months away by most people's estimations of invading england -- literally their only ho

the south african writes: so in other words they would know what the cia is up to. ile in 2009, south africa's spy chief gets a direct call from a boss. he is shocked at the breach of protocol and orders his staff to verify the number. later a meeting. he wants south africa to vote down the gold stone report a u.n. fact finding mission after the 2009 gaza war. prominent jurist richard goldstone lead it hah it said israel had committed numerous war crimes. the palestinian authority leader privately supports the israeli position, and also wants south africa to vote it down. according to the top man: in this way, the cables reveal how the u.s. israel and palestinian authority are privately forming clandestine alliances they would never aed mitt to in -- admit to in public. >> we'll bring you more top secret cables at 1800 hours gmt. and you can read the original articles at our website, aljazeera.com/spycables. and tell us what you think on twitter using the hashtag spycables. >>> palestinian officials say israeli forces have shot dead a teenager in this the occupied we

he was deputy director of the cia from 2010 to 2013. also served twice as acting director during that time. egypt launched airstrikes in libya yesterday. the attack was in retaliation for the beheading of 21 christian egyptian hostages. the killings raised concern that isis is expanding its global footprint. in geneva, international powers have entered a decisive phase in nuclear negotiation. they are slated to reach a framework agreement in march and a final agreement in june. iran's supreme leader remarked last week that no deal is better than a bad deal. american politicians have said the same thing. i'm pleased to have mike morell back at this table. welcome. mike: good to be here. charlie: someone said to me, there is a sense that somebody's got to come together. the isis and the extent of their footprint is much more troubling than anybody ever imagined. tell me how you see isis today based on what we just saw in egypt, i mean in libya, paris, copenhagen, iraq, and syria. what is the challenge here and what kind of response is dem

the mi 6. that is equivalent to our cia. but mi 6 is way more secret. the politicians are never supposed to say the name mi6 or admit that it exists. >> i appreciated the insights and perspectives of the leaders of the government and the head of mi-6. as we discussed syria. >> that meeting, had not been on his public schedule while he was in london. it was supposed to be a secret. he was definitely not supposed to talk about it with reporter and he found it too ir response thabl he had to tell them he had the meeting you are still not supposed to say it is with the head of mi-6. the daily mail was told his trip was a total car crash and worse than sarah palin. and that they said in meeting with him they found him to be devoid of charm, warmth, humor or sincerity. mitt romney in the summer of 2012 when he was running for president had a terrible trip to london. the sun tabloid newspaper summed up their take mitt the twit. wannabe u.s. president. mitt romney's olympics gaffe overshadowed his visit to london. mitt romney visits london while stumbling on alm

he headed up the most infamous post 9/11 interrogation not conducted by the cia. he went back to chicago until 2007. now there is a question of his interrogations back home in chicago. his cases back home in the chicago pd. like the case of boyd, arrested in 1990. he asked to be put into a line up after he was arrested. he said he didn't do it. nine eyewitnesss looked at him in that line up and none of the nine eyewitnesss picked him. one of those you witnesses said that he was not the guy. that this guy, definitely did not do it. that information never made it into the police reports and he was convicted and he served 23 years in prison before the state looked at his case again and they dismissed the charges and set him free after 23 years. >> i remained in that room through two lineups, and i remember i asked after that second lineup, i asked if anybody picked me out of the lineup, and he said no. and i said see, i told you. you have the wrong guy. and he smiled at me. and he said we're charging you anyway. it still doesn't seem real. or that i'm here. i'm just s

. >>> the spy cables leaked documents show the cia tried to establish contact with hamas, despite an ficial ban. >>> i have the sport as fifa recommends moving the 2022 qatar world cup to the winter months. ♪ >>> fighters from the islamic state of iraq and the levant have kidnapped at least 90 people from christian villages in the northeast of syria. the syrian observatory for human rights says the villages were attacked on monday morning. a head says they are working to find the missing people but have had no luck so far. >> translator: until now we haven't been able to contact any of the hostages. as i said 90 to 150 people were kidnapped and two are missing, so we think they have been killed. >> zana hoda is following this story in beirut. what is the latest? >> reporter: the christian syrian community is appealing for help. they do not know the fate of these 90 people that you mentioned. they pushed into christian villages in a province in the northeast of syria. what we understand is that there was heavy fighting many syrian christians managed to flee but's ill managed to capture

and a test by the cia to contact what the u.s. cads a terrorist group. we have the exclusive details. >> the spy cables show us just how the u.s., israel and the palestinian authority play political games with each other. >> the general conference for palestine, as member of unesco. >> unesco gave the state of palestine full membership in 2011. and its president, mahmoud abbas has sought wider exceptance every since, but the u.s. fought that at the highest levels. a secret phonecall from the white house to the palestinian authority leader. president obama threatened president abbas if he went ahead with the u.n. bid. and just as the u.s. was pressuring the palestinian authority, it was now seen that they were seeking to establish content with hamas, a group that it considers a terrorist organization. he asked his south african counterpart to put them in touch. the south african writes that the u.s. seems to be desperate to make inroads into hamas and gaza, and they would establish the collection priorities and the cia. so in other words they would know w

with respect to the cable that suggests there was a cia operative who asked south african operative toelp within roads to hamas, the south africans then write between themselves, how can we run the cia guy to see what kind of information they're after? it is a bleak window into what the cia's interests are. in 2009, president obama wanted to have a new relationship with the muslim world. he spoke in cairo. autocrats were adopted by the bush administration. obama thought, maybe there is room for political islam. this is when they were still open to the idea, let's say. it makes sense to me at least, reporting this interest was expressed. of course, we don't know if the cia to give forward to stop the mass has said on al jazeera today, they deny official contact, but they won't save it was unofficial. i think it is intriguing. >> you also know that a south african state security agency report from november 2012 records the palestinian intelligence officer handing over mmo detailing a phone call made by president obama to mahmoud abbas, were president threatened abbas if he goes ahead wit

he became the oss which would later morph into the cia. all of this amounts to a shadow force that waged war within this country breaking in some sense every law of the land to fight for england by means of sabotage propaganda, and political subversion. had congress or the american public known at the time that roosevelt invited the spies in. instructed hoover to look the other way, he would have opened himself up to impeachment proceedings. history proved him right. we looked back on this as a just war, a war we should have entered. we looked back on roosevelt and the british "irregulars" despite the underhanded means as on the side of the angels. so it's a case of doing wrong for the right reasons. but it is a very fraught piece of history as a result. one of my favorite lines about this period of history was uttered by earnest cunio. he was a pivotal figure. he goes through when chel's wartime columns and he was an operative who basically was the go-between between the british intelligence and roosevelt's brain trust. and he said, well,

the defense minister, or it is the truth from the intelligence perspective if you are the head of the cia. you are looking at this from the president's perspective. you need to be able to tell the president how you see the situation, how you see his actions and activities in that situation, even when you think he is not doing the right thing, and what you think the real options are. i often did that. a few time i got -- times i got my head snapped off. sometimes the president would be reading his crossword puzzle as i was talking, which meant that he was listening. [laughter] then i would go on my merry way. but that is the highest -- those simply are the truth tellers to the president from outside the bubble, outside the four walls of the administration. you are doing your job. >> general clark, can you tell us a little bit about the role that you came to play in pursuing for a policy for this administration? and i'm also curious, how did you get to know the president? you are from arkansas and i don't know how far back? >> it is a humble, humble story, and a lot lower what said he has d

the cia and gathered top-secret information through the use of sex in the 1970's. mendez reports that one popular d.c. swingers club, frequented by the couple, counted at least 10 study i -- 10 cia staffers and members -- as members.

he also works for the cia. really? the epa and the cia. they did something really extraordinary read the government has never done this and never will again. they asked somebody at the cia. have you heard of jonathan beale? they said who? here is what they discovered. he does not work for the cia. he had been going on for 11 years. do you know what his specialty is? global warming. he has been doing this for 11 years. they finally fired him. is going to prison, if he is not already. on the way out they could not do it in the proper way. anybody would have fired him. he would not be eligible for pensions. even on the way out they could not do the right thing. i'm imagining what this guy's life must've been like. is boss calls him, jonathan, we have not seen you. are you coming in? i imagine him at his house. i imagine he has a swimming pulled. he makes $150,000 a year. 100,000 people make under that a year. i imagine he is drinking a beer, he is in his lounge. the boss calls him. here is his response. no, i'm in istanbul on a secret assignme

frank, of course the cia and other intelligence agencies around the world have tried to do psychologicalespecially their opponents around the world. what do you make of this one? >> well this is not at all at the same level as what the cia did. the cia hired psychiatrists and psycho analysts who have done extensive research into these people, not just watching theme on videotape and dealing with their own fantasies about what different body movements mean. i was sort of surprised, really that the pentagon -- that the d.o.d. would pay this kind of money. the cia is doing an important job and they have made an effort. i felt it was important to do an analysis of obama and bush both of wish i have done were very serious, which, you know it's a very difficult situation, but it's important to know the psychology of who our leaders are. this thing about putin seems silly in a way, because asberger's people are not interested in riding around on a horse bareback or interested in doing all of the shenanigans he does stealing a super bowl ring from the owner of the patriots and then saying i coul