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in the instance with the city unions, the city unions did not use the same approach or go into the discussions with the same approach as -- melissa: mayor, i want to make sure i'm hearing you correctly because every otherrtime we talked about this you've been very sympathetic to what is going on with unions and pensions and it sounds like you're blaming them now? >> not blaming them. what i am saying is that they have forced the issue. the pension fund have forced the issues, not the, not the afscme, not the teamsters and not the other unions. they have been at the table, wanting to be at the table but the pension funds decided that they were going to move and move forward and start this lawsuit to preclude the governor and the emergency financial manager from starting, or at some point going into bankruptcy. and that forced the hand of the emergency financial manager to move forward. melissa: yeah. >> what this does is to put on hold the case that was going to be argued before a judge in ingram county to determine whether or not the temporary restraining order ought to be issued. so it was fo
in the instance with the city unions, the city unions did not use the same approach or go into the discussions with the same approach as -- melissa: mayor, i want to make sure i'm hearing you correctly because every otherrtime we talked about this you've been very sympathetic to what is going on with unions and pensions and it sounds like you're blaming them now? >> not blaming them. what i am saying is that they have forced the issue. the pension fund have forced the issues, not the, not...
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the city entered into a long period of decline. in jordan as the bombardment. after the fall of the soviet union, the city will from hibernation. -- will from hibernation. hibernation. but behind the facade, the toll of nearly a century of neglect hidden from view. in these once grand and now faded entrances, with many of the city's pour. crowded into apartments now coveted by russia's new rich and aspiring middle class. galina. she lives in a beautiful, but dilapidated building along the innks of the nevsky river, one of the most prestigious parts of town. like many, she obtained her apartment when property was privatized amid speculation and property wars. this is the story of galina and her neighbors, poor people under constant instigation of schemers. >> [speaking foreign language] >> in this communal apartments on millionaires street lives irina. >> [speaking russian language] [cat meows] >> [speaking russian language] >> galina's top floor apartment on millionaires tree was damaged beyond repair, and a wealthy man paid-up local officials to obtain a permit to build a loft on the roof. gali
the city entered into a long period of decline. in jordan as the bombardment. after the fall of the soviet union, the city will from hibernation. -- will from hibernation. hibernation. but behind the facade, the toll of nearly a century of neglect hidden from view. in these once grand and now faded entrances, with many of the city's pour. crowded into apartments now coveted by russia's new rich and aspiring middle class. galina. she lives in a beautiful, but dilapidated building along the innks...
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we also heard from the city union to not approve the rate of the package and want to address the implications for not approval for you along with the suggested action plan. turning to page 4, the aggregate premium for all employers is a 2.43 percent increase. this is remarkable and is made up of all of our health plans, our dental plans and our long-term disability and life. so if we look at those we have a 5.22 increase in our kaiser rate, increase in blue shield rate, our dental plans are running at 2.48. we believe it's due to more increase. we think it's going to moderate in 2014. our lifetime disabilities in 2014. our pay rate is $659 million. the members cost on this is $84 million. that is an 11.3 percent of the premiums. on the next page is the summary of the impacts. >> can i ask a question. from previous documents that i thought it showed that the blue shield premium decreased in previous documents along with the city plan as well, but the aggregate premium increase shows that blue shield went up. can you explain that discrepancy. i can't remember where that was where the document t
we also heard from the city union to not approve the rate of the package and want to address the implications for not approval for you along with the suggested action plan. turning to page 4, the aggregate premium for all employers is a 2.43 percent increase. this is remarkable and is made up of all of our health plans, our dental plans and our long-term disability and life. so if we look at those we have a 5.22 increase in our kaiser rate, increase in blue shield rate, our dental plans are...
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>> the city and the unions make promises to workers that they could not keep. hey got to say we got a huge pay increase, the city did not have to pay for these increases now. there is just no money anymore. they were lied to for generations. they would not be better off it had a 401(k). they did not have to worry about the city going under. dennis: imagine if the pension plan had money in the stock market in the 401(k) instead of the pension problem rising since '09. one shows how many cities face underfunded liabilities, detroit 5.1 billion, i heard that was 9 billion. another chart that they're going to to show, political spending by unions $1.1 billion through 2011. unions represent less than 7% of private-sector workers and 40% of government workers. is this one big self-perpetuating money machine where the unions elect the government people who will vote to keep paying to the unions who get more dues, meanwhile taxpayers, the rest of us are on the outside and we are getting hammered. >> if that is the case, they did a very poor job in detroit. the payout is
>> the city and the unions make promises to workers that they could not keep. hey got to say we got a huge pay increase, the city did not have to pay for these increases now. there is just no money anymore. they were lied to for generations. they would not be better off it had a 401(k). they did not have to worry about the city going under. dennis: imagine if the pension plan had money in the stock market in the 401(k) instead of the pension problem rising since '09. one shows how many...
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the san francisco cab drivers association and the united taxi cab workers plan to hold a rally at noon at san francisco city hall. the union says california law prohibits ride sharing for profit. they also say ride sharing companies like lift, uber and side car could pose a safety risk because they claim to be exempt from vehicle inspections and insurance requirements. >>> officials at sfo say they have made seven citizens arrests to ride sharing drivers this month. the arrests come after officials sent cease and desist letters to side car and uber in april. officials say ride sharing is not allowed at sfo and drivers are being arrested for trespassing. >>> time now is 4:36. let's check in with sal this morning and see how traffic is going. hey, sal. >>reporter: hey, brian. you know, we're off to a good start. right now traffic is doing very well around the bay area. it's nice and quiet and hopefully it'll stay that way, but we'll see. out to the live pictures we go to the east shore freeway and the traffic here looks pretty good as you head out to the macarthur maze with no major problems. also the traffic is moving along
the san francisco cab drivers association and the united taxi cab workers plan to hold a rally at noon at san francisco city hall. the union says california law prohibits ride sharing for profit. they also say ride sharing companies like lift, uber and side car could pose a safety risk because they claim to be exempt from vehicle inspections and insurance requirements. >>> officials at sfo say they have made seven citizens arrests to ride sharing drivers this month. the arrests come...
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unions have the right not to grant concession, they granted no concessions and hostess went out of siness and lost all those union jbs. shouldn't employees in detroit in making concessions to help the cityget back on its feet? >>he cit of detroit unions have made concessions anwould make concessionsoing forward, but what has to happen is a have to b a dialogue betwe the city and the state. the state cut the revenue sharing last year by approximately the same amount as in taylor pensio imac enterra p. dennis: we're going to have to wrap. i was live got another more, but we lk for the rattle rousing on the other my apologies, thank you for being with us. now we want to know what you guys think. should workers in bankrupt ties lose their pensions? log onto griwillis.com, vote on the right-hand side of the screen and i will share the results at the end of the show. a lot still to come this hour in putting tips on e best way to rent your vacation home. and taco bell shocking the fast kids meald by sayg adios to ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. ♪ get the mercedes-bz yove been burning for at the summ event, going on now at your authorized mercedes
unions have the right not to grant concession, they granted no concessions and hostess went out of siness and lost all those union jbs. shouldn't employees in detroit in making concessions to help the cityget back on its feet? >>he cit of detroit unions have made concessions anwould make concessionsoing forward, but what has to happen is a have to b a dialogue betwe the city and the state. the state cut the revenue sharing last year by approximately the same amount as in taylor pensio...
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then you had the police and firemen union are not the unions that bankrupted this city. lot of people say, oh, the policemen and the fire. i grew up in a family with a policeman and fireman grandfather, my father-in-law is a police officer. these unions are not bankrupting these cities. >> if we're not going to invest in detroit, we need to just sell it to canada because canada seems to be able to balance government services and creating a strong business environment. if we're not going to put money into our cities, maybe we should sell it to somebody who will. >> during the break, we'll place a call to the prime minister of canada, who knows. >> why president obama is in injecting himself into the george zimmerman case. >> sign up for my facebook page and follow me on twitter. you can find the link to that and more at mikehuckabee.com. ♪ you like to keep your family healthy and fit. and now there's a new way to do the same for your dog. introducing new purina dog chow light & healthy. it's a no-sacrifices, calorie-light way to keep him trim, with a deliciously tender and
then you had the police and firemen union are not the unions that bankrupted this city. lot of people say, oh, the policemen and the fire. i grew up in a family with a policeman and fireman grandfather, my father-in-law is a police officer. these unions are not bankrupting these cities. >> if we're not going to invest in detroit, we need to just sell it to canada because canada seems to be able to balance government services and creating a strong business environment. if we're not going...
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chapter eight, detroit utterly ruined by corruption of the local government and union demands for a bigger piece of a shrinking poi. the city'sovernment didn't have the will to reign in the corruption or the guts to say no to the unions and that took them to chapter nine bankruptcy. the saddest part of the detroit story, not that it is a failed city who couldn't. it is the story of one of the world's great and most successful city and was willing to sell its soul for lesser things and tolerate unthinkable things. >> the unemployment rate tripled and street lights don't work regularly than the people. 40 percent of the street lights stay dark. and for 20 years tis considered one of america's most dangerous cities and takes police in detroit an average of 58 minutes to respond to the call. just under 80,000 city structures have been abandoned. detroit was once the leading edge of america and now the bad news, it still is. take a good look at detroit in all of its former glory and current gore, and it was on the front of america's trends, it still is. detroit is today what the rest of america is on track to being in another 20 y
chapter eight, detroit utterly ruined by corruption of the local government and union demands for a bigger piece of a shrinking poi. the city'sovernment didn't have the will to reign in the corruption or the guts to say no to the unions and that took them to chapter nine bankruptcy. the saddest part of the detroit story, not that it is a failed city who couldn't. it is the story of one of the world's great and most successful city and was willing to sell its soul for lesser things and tolerate...
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it will be the largest city in america ever to go into bankruptcy, federal bankruptcy. everybody, kern workers, carothers 47 separate public unionscity of detroit. in fact, some of the unions have only one member. it's hard for me to envision. of one man union. and i just don't think politically a union can go to its members and say we agree to wage cuts or cuts to pensis are cuts to health care which is why i think it ends up in front to a federal judge. the emergency manager of the charge might not say this to anybody. i think he prefers to be in chapter nine. he has more power. a judge can say to the unions, you know, you can protest all you want to value a michael ix:00 monday morning. you have an hour to make your case and then on m decision. i really think that he prefers to be in chapter nine. john: how big hair cut? three in a half billion in the red which means a union worker thinks he has 50,000 year might only get 30? >> well, the judge is going to make tt decision in a bankruptcy court. and i really -- let me just say this. i have a great deal of sympathy for the average pensioner or the average retiree because they a
it will be the largest city in america ever to go into bankruptcy, federal bankruptcy. everybody, kern workers, carothers 47 separate public unionscity of detroit. in fact, some of the unions have only one member. it's hard for me to envision. of one man union. and i just don't think politically a union can go to its members and say we agree to wage cuts or cuts to pensis are cuts to health care which is why i think it ends up in front to a federal judge. the emergency manager of the charge...
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the city's union slam emergency manager on pricey consulting fees. we'll have the first on cnbc response from mr. orr himself to the unions later in the show. and don't forget free market capitalism is always the best path to prosperity and that path right now is being littered and blocked by a highly flawed obama care system. i'm sorry to say that, but the whole thing should be put off and redone. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. our commitment has never been stronger. wi drive a ford fusion. who is healthier, you or your car? i would say my car. probably the car. cause as you get o
the city's union slam emergency manager on pricey consulting fees. we'll have the first on cnbc response from mr. orr himself to the unions later in the show. and don't forget free market capitalism is always the best path to prosperity and that path right now is being littered and blocked by a highly flawed obama care system. i'm sorry to say that, but the whole thing should be put off and redone. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals:...
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chapter eight, detroit utterly ruined by corruption of the local government and union demands for a bigger piece of a shrinking poi. the city'sovernment didn't have the will to reign in the corruption or the guts to say no to the unions and that took them to chapter nine bankruptcy. the saddest part of the detroit story, not that it is a failed city who couldn't. it is the story of one of the world's great and most successful city and was willing to sell its soul for lesser things and tolerate unthinkable things. >> the unemployment rate tripled and street lights don't work regularly than the people. 40 percent of the street lights stay dark. and for 20 years tis considered one of america's most dangerous cities and takes police in detroit an average of 58 minutes to respond to the call. just under 80,000 city structures have been abandoned. detroit was once the leading edge of america and now the bad news, it still is. take a good look at detroit in all of its former glory and current gore, and it was on the front of america's trends, it still is. detroit is today what the rest of america is on track to being in another 20 y
chapter eight, detroit utterly ruined by corruption of the local government and union demands for a bigger piece of a shrinking poi. the city'sovernment didn't have the will to reign in the corruption or the guts to say no to the unions and that took them to chapter nine bankruptcy. the saddest part of the detroit story, not that it is a failed city who couldn't. it is the story of one of the world's great and most successful city and was willing to sell its soul for lesser things and tolerate...
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then you had the police and firemen unions are not the unions that bankrupted this city. the policemen and the firemen. i grew up in a family with a policeman father, those unions are not bankrupting these cities. >> i think if we are not going to invest in detroit, we should just sell it to canada because canada seems to be able to balance government services and creating a strong business environment. if we're not going to put money into our cities then maybe we should sell them. >> i'm going to make a call during the break to the prime minister of canada. we'll see if he's interested. who knows. coming up, i'm going to ask why the president is injectinging himself into the zimmerman martin case once again. we'll talk about that when we return. >> i'd like the hear from you. go to my website. tell me what you think on the lead feedback section or sign up for my facebook page and follow me on twitter. you can find the link to that and more at mikehuckabee.com. ] eh, hold on brent what's this? mmmm, nice car. there's no doubt, that's definitely gonna throw him off. she's s
then you had the police and firemen unions are not the unions that bankrupted this city. the policemen and the firemen. i grew up in a family with a policeman father, those unions are not bankrupting these cities. >> i think if we are not going to invest in detroit, we should just sell it to canada because canada seems to be able to balance government services and creating a strong business environment. if we're not going to put money into our cities then maybe we should sell them....
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automatic stay will be issued on the city's obligations to halt creditors from collecting debts this includes losses lawsuits against the city from pension officials and union members the automatic stay will allow the city time to renegotiate its contracts then the droid's will have to meet eligibility requirements under chapter nine the first one is authority the city was allowed to prove its insolvent and has a desire to adopt a plan to adjust its debt and the court grants detroit the ok to move forward the reorganization plan will have to be voted on by creditors this bankruptcy could take in an unknown amount of time before an agreement to be made the city has around eighteen billion dollars of debt making it the largest municipal bankruptcy in american history creditors range from secured bond holders general obligation bond holders secured unsecured creditors and a union pension board's a showdown of who will end up with what is sure to occur here according to the detroit news or offered to the city's unsecured creditors including unions and pension funds just ten cents on the dollar while at the same time or reportedly agreed to pay two big bang's ba
automatic stay will be issued on the city's obligations to halt creditors from collecting debts this includes losses lawsuits against the city from pension officials and union members the automatic stay will allow the city time to renegotiate its contracts then the droid's will have to meet eligibility requirements under chapter nine the first one is authority the city was allowed to prove its insolvent and has a desire to adopt a plan to adjust its debt and the court grants detroit the ok to...
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will continue to get paid is under the rules they would be able to seize city property if they were not paid. after that, the city starts cracking down likely on unions. there is a pension fund that is $3.5 billion in the whole on health care costs alone. that is where the city workers are concerned. they know one thing the city will go after is those funds. they will be trying to negotiate down one debt after another. pensions are a big part of that. there will be other contracts that may get pennies on the dollar from the city. >> thank you, reporting from detroit. send all is to refugees that arrive by boat to new guinea. more than 15,000 asylum seekers arrived by sea this year alone. the prime minister says from now on, no one will be allowed to stay. australian elections are soon. over boat arrivals is a major issue. >> we intend to make sure the message is delivered loud and clear to people smuggling networks around the world. those criminal elements in austria who may be supporting them. the hopes that the offer their customers for the future are nothing but false hopes. >> >> we have more from the capital. >> the labor. minister has announced
will continue to get paid is under the rules they would be able to seize city property if they were not paid. after that, the city starts cracking down likely on unions. there is a pension fund that is $3.5 billion in the whole on health care costs alone. that is where the city workers are concerned. they know one thing the city will go after is those funds. they will be trying to negotiate down one debt after another. pensions are a big part of that. there will be other contracts that may get...
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have the consumers have a place to park and got together with the city and the first partnership to build parking in the city and under union square and people were asking how did you do this thing all over the country and we built more of these types of garages under parks and helping to pay to keep the parks in business. the next thing that happened started in oklahoma city. they found they had to put in meertds to cause turn over for the merchants and of course as san francisco as other cities did this say source of spare change while doing good and turn over with parking but we continue in san francisco doing a pretty silly thing. in 1955 the zoning codes were changed to require that if you want to build a house, an apartment, or anything you have to provide a parking place. now did people want that to park on the street? did they want that so there is no development in the neighborhood? who knows but this is a major problem and increases the number of cars. later on the next thing happen you continued building nor garages and followed by building a freeway virtually on geary street and convenient for people to drive do
have the consumers have a place to park and got together with the city and the first partnership to build parking in the city and under union square and people were asking how did you do this thing all over the country and we built more of these types of garages under parks and helping to pay to keep the parks in business. the next thing that happened started in oklahoma city. they found they had to put in meertds to cause turn over for the merchants and of course as san francisco as other...
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it will be the largest city in america ever to go into bankruptcy, federal bankruptcy. everybody, kern workers, caroer47 separate public unionscity of detroit. in fact, some o the unions have only one member. it's hard for me to envision. of one man union. and i just don't think politically a union can go to its members and say we agree to wage cuts or cuts to pensions are cuts to health care which is why i think it ends up in front to a federaludge. the emergency manager of the charge might not say this to anybody. i think he prefers to in chapter nine. he has more power. a judge can say to the unions, you know, you can protest all you want to value a michael ix:00 monday morning. you have an hour to make your case and then on my decision. i really think that he prefers to be in chapter nine. john: how big hair cut? three in a half billion in the red which means a union worker thinks he has 50,000 year might only get 30? >> well, the judge is going to make that decision in a bankruptcy court. and i really -- let me just say this. i have a great deal of sympathy for the average pensioner or the average retiree because they ar
it will be the largest city in america ever to go into bankruptcy, federal bankruptcy. everybody, kern workers, caroer47 separate public unionscity of detroit. in fact, some o the unions have only one member. it's hard for me to envision. of one man union. and i just don't think politically a union can go to its members and say we agree to wage cuts or cuts to pensions are cuts to health care which is why i think it ends up in front to a federaludge. the emergency manager of the charge might...
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city employees. all running on a normal schedule this morning. workers walked off the job this morning. the city and the union plan to be back at the bargaining table next week. the oakland tribune reporting one meter maid crossed the picket line. that worker was ticketing cars telling one reporter he is well-paid and did not support that strike. city leaders telling people there would be no park enforcement during the strike. they say they can't stop workers from crossing the picket line. the city won't say if the tickets will be forgiven. >>> christina loren talking about the heat this week. >> it is on. good morning. welcome back. i want to start with your 24 hour temperature change to show you how much warmer it is this morning. ial could use the word warmer. nine degrees in livermore. six degrees warmer in fairfield to start the day. it is going to be a summer time scorcher. i want to make sure you are ready for this because we are starting out so mild high pressure is going to do its job to bring temperatures up rivaling all-time records for the month of july. 73 degrees in livermore. 66 in san jose. lo
city employees. all running on a normal schedule this morning. workers walked off the job this morning. the city and the union plan to be back at the bargaining table next week. the oakland tribune reporting one meter maid crossed the picket line. that worker was ticketing cars telling one reporter he is well-paid and did not support that strike. city leaders telling people there would be no park enforcement during the strike. they say they can't stop workers from crossing the picket line. the...
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the raises double the amount allotted in the city budget. the unions did not agree to new concession the city was asking for including paying for health insurance and more toward their pensions. >>> no verdict yet but a lot of action today. the 6 jurors determining the fate of george zimmerman are working into the night on their deliberations.cbs reporter susan mcginnis on the question from the jurors that sent everyone back into the courtroom. >> reporter: demonstrators awaiting a verdict rallied outside the seminole county courthouse while jurors inside considered the fate of george zimmerman. >> justice for trayvon! >> reporter: some are here to support trayvon martin's family. >> we want justice. we want to make sure that zimmerman is convicted of second-degree murder and nothing less. >> reporter: for others, justice is an acquittal for zimmerman. >> i'm hoping for a not guilty which is the way it should be. >> good morning, ladies. >> reporter: just after 9 a.m., the jury of 6 women began a second day of deliberations. about nine hours into their
the raises double the amount allotted in the city budget. the unions did not agree to new concession the city was asking for including paying for health insurance and more toward their pensions. >>> no verdict yet but a lot of action today. the 6 jurors determining the fate of george zimmerman are working into the night on their deliberations.cbs reporter susan mcginnis on the question from the jurors that sent everyone back into the courtroom. >> reporter: demonstrators awaiting...
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the city over the weekend. city negotiators plan to meet with the union on friday. >>> meanwhile, the east bay regional park rangersave declared a two-day strike. that is going to start on thursday. that's the 4th of july holiday. protestors will be picketing at most east bay regional park includes tilden, at the mesko and lake chabot. rangers demand an increase because of rising cost of living. >>> bart trumped you out for the lead today. >> that's not right. [ laughter ] >> weather is a major story today. >> it's hot. >> the heat. those water parks, that's where i'd like to be now hanging out there enjoying the slides. the hot temperatures returning once again to the valleys, triple digits again showing up inland but what a contrast at the coastline. interestingly today we started out with a couple of scattered light showers a lot of monsoonal moisture wrapping around that very strong ridge of high pressure that's bringing you the heat also helping to bring a couple of scattered showers. we continue to see some fog out toward the golden gate and, of course, this is where we're seeing those much cooler temperature
the city over the weekend. city negotiators plan to meet with the union on friday. >>> meanwhile, the east bay regional park rangersave declared a two-day strike. that is going to start on thursday. that's the 4th of july holiday. protestors will be picketing at most east bay regional park includes tilden, at the mesko and lake chabot. rangers demand an increase because of rising cost of living. >>> bart trumped you out for the lead today. >> that's not right. [ laughter...
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cat executive director of local 1021 and the labor council committee representing all of the city employee unions just to follow up on that we want to thank supervisor farrell for reaching out and having the discussions with us. i will point out that in the past we have supported measures that have increased contributions for city employees and those cases where it made factual sense to do so. we invested heavily in passage of ballot measures that raise our contribution rates because it was a necessary part of the solution. in this case the facts showed it's not necessary. the alternate plan as supervisor farrell and others have developed will solve the problem without increasing cost to public employees and we are appreciative when the solution to a problem like this is fact based and not political because it could have had political implications and supported for all the wrong reasons for a solution not based on facts so we're appreciative of that. we try to take a long-term view what is best for the city's long-term financial health and align that with what is good for employees as well and th
cat executive director of local 1021 and the labor council committee representing all of the city employee unions just to follow up on that we want to thank supervisor farrell for reaching out and having the discussions with us. i will point out that in the past we have supported measures that have increased contributions for city employees and those cases where it made factual sense to do so. we invested heavily in passage of ballot measures that raise our contribution rates because it was a...