interaction around the world. "clinton cash" is published by harper collins, a sister company to fox news. >> shortly after the earthquake took place, the u.s. ambassador in haiti sent a memo entitled the gold rush is on. it was about the fact that businessmen were showing up in haiti trying to seek lucrative contracts. >> it was the job of the ihrc to oversee this process and to ensure no one took advantage of the situation. but what if it was part of the problem? >> a number of members of the ihrc actually wrote a letter expressing their concerns that they were not involved in the process, that all the decisions were being made by clinton and belaree, and they argued that the national priorities of haiti were being totally disregarded by the decisions that were being made. >> as haiti dug itself out of the rubble, many projects were initiated often with u.s. money and a connection to the clintons. for instance, there was the haitian mobile money initiative where a much-needed system was created to help transfer money via

the clinton model is unique. you look at the website and you see bill clinton and chelsea and hilary clinton holding children in africa or asia but they don't do a lot of hands on work with people in those countries. they partner with other organizations that do. they function as a middle man as it were. the world needs its middle man. but it is not like doctors without borders or american red cross or other organizations doing the work. the clinton foundation is more like a management consulting firm working in the area of charity. this is the reason why, for example, a charity navigator won't rate the clinton fundation because of what they call their unique business model and they have been dinged by the better business bureau because they lack internal control retlated to finance. >> eugene in hickory, kentucky. go ahead. >> caller: i am not a republican, democratic libertarian, i am an american. and i don't believe in being affiliated with a party. my question is if you or i or any other average american were

i think it's incumbent upon the clintons to stop the statements that former president clinton has said about me and engage in the conversation about the troubling fact patterns. >> host: you ask in your your book there your book you realize how shocking these allegations may appear. are these activities illegal? that's not for me to say you write. >> guest: yes look. if you look at the tone of this book and peggy noonan of the wall street general had a call about the book. she points out i'm not bombed during contrary to what the clintons say i'm doing. i'm laying out the facts. that's really what i'm doing and i'm not an attorney. i don't pretend to be an attorney. what i will say however is if you look at some of the recent cases of political prosecution on corruption whether that's in virginia or senator hernandez in new jersey or if you look in oregon with the governor's resignation i would contend from what we know now the fact pattern with the clintons is far more troubling in development then it wasn't any of those cases. that's why think it warrants investigation by either the

the clinton foundation model is incredibly unique. you look at the website and see bill clinton and chelsea and hillary clinton holding children in africa or asia but the clinton foundation really doesn't do a lot of hands-on work with people in those countries. they partner with other organizations that do. they function as a middleman as it were. and he needs a middleman but it's not like doctors without borders or american red cross or some of these other organizations actually doing the hands-on work. at the the clinton foundation is more like a management consultant firm working in the area of charity and this is why for example the charity navigator that as well regarded as an evaluator of charities you can look online they won't even rate a foundation because of what they call its unique business model and they've been deemed by the better business bureau because they are lacking internal control as it relates to finances and governance etc.. so there are real problems there. >> host: eugene in hickory kentucky. please go ahead.

i think it is now incumbent on the clintons to stop the sly statements that former president clinton has said about me and engage in the conversation about eight troubling fact pattern. host: you ask in your book "i realize how shocking these allegations may appear. are these activities illegal? that is not for me to say," you write. guest: if you look at the tone of this book, and the wall street journal has a column about this. i am not a throwing, contrary to the clintons's claim. i'm not making outrageous accusations. i am laying out the fact. that is what i am doing. i am not and do not pretend to be an attorney. if you look at some of the recent cases of political prosecutions on corruption whether that is mcdonnell in virginia senator menendez in new jersey, or the case in oregon with the governor and his resignation, i contend that from what we know now, the fact pattern with the clintons is far more troubling and developed than in any of those cases. i inc. this warrants investigation by either the fbi a federal prosecutor, or by a congressional committee with subpoena power.

did stephanopoulos coordinate with the clintons? earlier today he said he'll not host the abc republican presidential debate in new hampshire. here with reaction the reporter who broke this story, andrew styles is with us. and let's go over some of the history here with clinton and stephanopoulos and the clin tonies and him talking about hillary and schweitzer's book. >> it's pretty clear if she decides to run based on what we know for at least a while she would be the front-runner. >>. this is a tough one. he even say there is's no evidence of any direct action taken on behalf of the donors. democrats said this is indication of your partisan reaction. how do you respond to that? >> andrew the most experienced person ever to run for president. he's such a hack. i mean how could he possibly have not known that he should reveal this? do you believe that? >> yeah i don't know. it's certainly questionable that he seems to have forgotten about it and is just coming forward now. the thing about george stephanopoulos is that i mean most peo

deals for 16 of the countries that donated to the clinton foundation. both figures represent significant increases over the same period during the bush administration. the story says that at least seven foreign governments that received state department clearance for american arms donated money to the clinton foundation while hillary clinton was the secretary of state. those countries are algeria, oman, qatar, kuwait, thailand, norway and australia. the government of qatar owns this network. joins me from denver to discuss the article and what it suggests is david sorotta. david, thank you so much for joining us. slate said in a blog post today that in the end, quote, the ibt piece doesn't reveal any smoking gun evidence of a corrupt quid pro quo transaction. that's the end of the quote. the most you can say about this is the clintons didn't pay enough attention to the appearance of conflicts of interest. you have to get in line if you want to make that allegations. it seems like everybody is doing that right now. we haven't got a connection. it doesn't

corporations and fraud associations lobbying the state department under hillary clinton. the list include the national retail association, and others paid $200,000 in the 3-month period that they lobbied the state department. once hillary clinton took over dell received $28 million in state department contracts. now, it's true that these allegations about greed and conflict of interests come more than nine months before votes will be cast in the 2016 presidential primaries. at this early stage of a presidential campaign, first impressions can be lasting. there's no denying a poll showing 54% of american voters say that hillary clinton is not honest and trustworthy. we spoke with david schroeder from "the business times" who wrote about the payments made and asked whether the payments were made to the clinton or their charitable foundation. here is his response. >> this is the key point here is that this is money going into ostensibly the clinton's personal bank account. money from companies that were actively lobbying hillary clinton's state department for government polic

and there have been some selective leaks by the clintons. there have been some things behind the scenes that frankly are a little bit disturbing. but the fact of the matter is that here we are talking about the book before it's even out. >> let's talk about a couple of those disturbing things. one of the things that must be disturbing to the clintons and some of her strongest supporters, despite all, is "the new york times" has given your book -- it is moving with your allegations allegations, your charges and then using it as a foundation for its reporting. you've got to really love that. >> well, they're great reporters and basically their position is, you present us compelling evidence and information, they're going to report on it. that's what a great reporter does. that's what "the times" reporters have done. the facts are the facts. the trouble the clinton camp is having is they want to make the conversation about me. they're sending out nasty tweets about me making personal attacks. >> but they first called i think -- i may be wrong. b

here the clintons denny wrongdoing. here have been flags and i think there is enough there that i think the fbi should already be involved. the fbi says we can never comment on whether we are or not investigating. that doesn't reassure the american people that justice is being served. >> i think we should hope that they're investigating and using the grand jury, for example that there are secrecy requirements that therethat would make it -- >> the point the bureau made to me if they say they're investigating the clinton foundation automatically the clintons look like they're guilty. and that's a legitimate point. but there comes a time when the american people have to be reassured that the whole government is not corrupt. and let me give you an exam pull. muller the former fbi director didn't know anything about the irs investigation in his testimony against the house committee. and nothing happened. >> i don't think congress can investigate this, but one thing they can do is pressure the fbi to at least make it known to

the clintons are moving up the financial ladder as well. in her last disclosure hillary clinton declared she and her husband had made at least $16.7 million in 2012 that of course was before she hit the speaking circuit. the clintons' effective federal tax rate in 2014 was 30%, that tax information, by the way, is not part of the financial disclosure form but the clintons are clearly trying to get the information out there as a way of pointing out that they pay taxes on earned income not invested income though the clintons have been criticized for giving highly paid speeches for key players in the financial industry hillary clinton, by the way, claims they were dead broke when they left the white house in 2001 the same year they made roughly $12 million. megyn? >> trace, thank you. >>> in poll after poll when americans are asked what ails america, their number one complaint is dissatisfaction with government and this clinton controversy captures some of that. as she continues to dodge the media, a growing number of voters think she is dishon

i think it is now incumbent on the clintons to stop the sly statements that former president clinton said about me and engage in the conversation about eight troubling fact pattern. host: you ask in your book "i realize how shocking these allegations may appear. are these activities illegal? that is not for me to say," you write. guest: if you look at the tone of this book, and the wall street journal has a column about this. i am not a throwing, contrary to the clintons's claim. i'm not making outrageous accusations. i am laying out the fact. that is what i am doing. i am not and do not pretend to be an attorney. if you look at some of the recent cases of political prosecutions on corruption whether that is mcdonnell in virginia senator menendez in new jersey, or the case in oregon with the governor and his resignation, i contend that from what we know now, the fact pattern with the clintons is far more troubling and developed than in any of those cases. i inc. this warrants investigation by either the fbi a federal prosecutor, or by a congressional committee with subpoena power. you

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obviously the clinton camp wants that to be pointed out. some liberal bloggers have been pointing it out as well. what's your reaction to this issue of the corrections that have to be made? >> oh yeah. i mean the corrections are very straightforward and very simple. there's a couple of dates that we got conflated instead of something in 2011 it was in 2010. probably the most changes -- i think there's two of them -- is in a section on haiti. so you know, these changes are very minor. they don't go at all to the core of what's in the book. and they don't really change at all the details of the timing of the flow of funds and beneficial actions that she took as secretary of state. >> peter, thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >>> in the hour since i spoke with schweizer, he has been in touch of abc but there's no indication that he'll be appearing in "this week." he's not the only one criticizing the network. my next guest is one of several who say the donations taint stephanopoulos's ability to cover the 2016 e

and by the clintons that bill clinton will not raise money for her. ee the logic in him not being a fundraiser at private events this year? al: i think that becomes immersed in what you just asked about, the foundation and all of those conservations -- controversies. i would not be surprised if they altered that a little bit as the season proceeds. as we know, bubba can do anything. whether it is give a speech for her or enlist political support or raise money. john: we talked yesterday on the show about your column, about hillary clinton and trade, and you said she could not continue to waffle. she has waffled comfortably so far on that question. i think part of the reason is that they want to make sure that no one can get any oxygen on her left. do you see the political logic of that? you see that, but you think that trumps what we all suspect, that she is a free trader at her heart? al: as you know, you could just see the conference calls and the debates. almost every single positive that policy advisor she has says to be for the tpp. it's better th

they say the clintons are tough. democrats. they have affection for her policy positions, they're glad she's moved to the left. but this is not something they think is going tory make washington. there's no love affair with her the way there was for president obama for instance but they don't think elizabeth warren can beat her and they don't think any other democrat can hold the white house. >> elizabeth warren may make them feel good stand on their feet but she doesn't have what hillary clinton has which is hillary's tuough and to beat republicans you've got to be tough. >> just listening to that snippet from that focus group, she's in very very good shape. >> she's in great shape. >> if that focus group is reflective of democrats in other states, she's great. ambitious, strong confident, not afraid to say no a better woman than i am one of the participants said. and she's not perfect and gets stuff done. >> that's pretty good. >> and they're tuned out. they don't know what she's done and they don't care. they're j

nancy pelosi: the clintons will have to answer for the foundation. uld imagine president clinton's participation in that event increased the take and the money spent at the foundation was a very good cause as well. everyone benefited from it. no question, it raises questions they have to answer. john: ouch. with friends like that who needs enemies? which of these three developments are the most ominous for hillary and bill clinton? mark: in 2008, nancy pelosi was often not the most supportive of democrats for hillary clinton. i think it is a tie. in both cases, you have people speaking out and being critical of the clintons and not helping them in a way that is ominous because if people are not afraid to say what they think and what they know about the clintons' past practices, they will have a tough time emerging as a general election campaign in a strong position. john: i think it is unequivocally the third story. everybody looks at the clinton foundation -- the thing with the charity is sort of shocking. the fact of nancy pelosi not being more robu

the clintons do something opposite. they go on the attack they actually entice the media because it's a good story to have clinton scandals. i've written this before, i don't think it's going to be a big scandal that takes down the clintons. i think it's the mock -- the clintons. i think it's the mockery, the "saturday night live" spoofs. i think it's the thing like when she launched her campaign and didn't leave a tip at chipotle. i think it's that the press is going to essentially go after her with these little things making fun of her. >> there's a difference between going after, pushing back, between needling somebody and taking them down. taking them down says to me that, you know she won't be table continue -- >> compare the press obama got to the press hillary got -- >> by the way, the clinton people made that argument about obama getting this glowing coverage. don't forget, this is the same you know if anybody views the media as trying to take a candidate down they say the same about the media trying to take repu

>>> the clintons go to war with non-profit charity watchdog. the man at the center of that war with the clintons is here tonight. >>> drones take to the air and promise to change the way we get our food. >> you're looking at me on the picture, the picture from the drone camera. gerri: all that and more on "the willis report," where consumers are our business. >>> tonight's america's newest mid-sized suvs are put to the test. the insurance institute for highway safety crashed seven of the newest models on the market, the results, well it may make you think twice before stepping inside. the institute's vice president joins us with the results. russ, great to have you on the show. little us a -- tell us a little bit about the test because it is different than the government uses. >> this is a different kind of test. this is called a small overlap front crash test. it is done at 40 miles per hour. it replicates what happens when a vehicle may drift over the center line of the highway and just clip other vehicle, headlight to headlight or go off the

except the new york times reported today bill clinton appeared to have much less concern about conflicts when he worked with frank juice stra who was heavily involved in the uranium one deal and helped set up a canadian affiliate of the foundation that shielded the iedsities of 1,100 donors whose money founded clinton foundation programs. flying in the face of a memorandum of understanding signed before hillary clinton was confirmed as secretary of state. >> no president has ever disclosed the contributions to his foundation so when my husband agreed to disclose the contributions to his foundation that was a very unprecedented event. >> reporter: today state department spokeswoman ma reharf defended colon. >> i haven't talked to anyone who has seen a link between actions by hillary clinton or speech which are the two things that fall under the mou she signed. >> reporter: how the boston globe is reporting another foundation offshoot clinton health access initiative did not disclose its massive foreign donations either. this charity took in $26.7 million in foreign donations in 2010. $55.

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the clinton administration, for the clinton foundation are entitled to. bill clinton, all right? he is the big boy. is he in charge. now, his travel is paid for by the foundation if he is going on charitable explore explore -- exploration right? >> that's right. bill is on the board of directors not a officer. they have chose not to compensate the board members. none of the board members north bill, not chelsea who is also on the board get compensated when hillary was on the board she didn't get compensated either. however, they are entitled to have their travel, reasonable travel expenses reimbursed. >> okay. now reasonable is not a private jet. right? >> well, in most cases and for most organizations a private jet would not be reasonable. however, in the case of bill clinton, a former president who traveled with secret service, the case of hillary clinton, former secretary of state, they do have some extra security concerns. if you look at the irs form 990 that the foundation filed. they note this. they say former president bill clinton and hillary clin

so why was such a corrupt institution sending money to the clinton foundation, and what about qatar'srelated contributions? with us now, byron york, washington examiner political correspondent and fox news contributor. what's the connection between the clinton foundation and fifa? >> well, the clinton foundation, supporters would say, nothing out of the ordinary. they would say that the foundation has connections with so many entities around globe that, well, if there's some corruption problem, that's not really -- don't touch the foundation. on the other hand, what we know now is this has to do with the awarding of the world cup. remember in 2010 bill clinton was on part of the team trying to bring the world cup to the united states. afterwards the winning team for 2022, the winning country, qatar. basically, the government gave at least a million, maybe as much as five million to the clinton foundation -- david: so let me just stop you there, was that kind of like a consolation prize? sorry, bill, we took the world cup, but, here, we're going to give you a couple of million? >> we d

on the democrat side this is amazing to me. i don't know how hillary clintonrved some time in prison given her background and what she's done. now they set up this front group to loan their money through so the sources of the money wouldn't be known. that bill clinton receives. there's so much corruption and sleaze in this family and what they do. yet, apparently that's the definition of the democrat party. she is right now, take the goofball from vermont, she's right now the only so-called serious candidate the democrats have. >> yeah. last question. if you were running against hillary, they've gotten away with so much in the past. do you focus on the scandals or focus on how to get 93 million americans back in the labor force, 50 million americans off food stamps and out of poverty. do you focus on the debt and deficit, securing the boarding do you focus on energy? you have to have a positive agenda and tell people how to get them back to work and stop robbing her kids. >> i think you have to do both. i don't think the candidate should get into e-mails and w

not publicly disclosed by the clintons. what did the clintons do about that? candal manual. it must say something about that in here. oh yeah it calls for the aw shucks response. >> i asked kelly about this -- hillary about this and she said, you know no one's ever tried to influence me by helping you. john: say what? no one ever tried to influence them? people gave billions to the clinton foundation, including some who want special treatment from our government. but there's no problem? no says hillary. it's just i money for charity. >> i am very proud of the work the foundation does. john: but what work? the foundation hasn't geffen much to charity -- given much to charity. that's repulsive, but apparently the clintons are teflon. brian williams misremembers hostile fire, he loses his job. hillary says i remember landing under sniper fire, we just ran with our heads down to get into our vehicles. that was supposedly in bosnia. when she was caught in the lie hillary just said oh, i misspoke. but she didn't misspeak, it was total fabrication. the clintons lie, t

the clintons say the book is a dud. it has no impact. they're attacking me. put a two and a half minute video that's highly deceptive. you have president clinton that's sort of going after me directly. so clearly they're concerned. and if you look at book sales and mainstream media coverage of the book. the networks, the new york times, clearly everybody recognizes there's a problem and that the book has uncovered some really substantial problems that need to be addressed. >> peter, thank you for coming on the show tonight. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> still to come, jeff flock takes us up to a job fair in gary, indiana. and the punches keep coming for manny pacquiao. he could be in the courtroom. our legal analysts debate the case coming up. ♪ >> all right. believe it or not there are unhappy boxing fans out there. manny pacquiao claiming shoulder injury before getting into the ring with floyd mayweather in last weekend's boxing fight of the history. medical let's and criminal defense attorney, and okay. do they have a standing. >> absolutely the

which democrat will soundtand up for the clinton's? s? nancy pelosi. y pelois: i believe thereir participation increased the take and it is for a good cause as well. everyone benefited from it. no question, it raises questions have to answer. john: ouch. with friends like that who needs enemies? which of these three developments are the most ominous for hillary and bill clinton? mark: in 2008, nancy pelosi was often not the most supportive of democrats hillaryfor hillary clinton. in both cases, you have people speaking out and being critical of the clintons and not helping them in a way that is ominous because if people are not afraid to say what they think and what they know about the clintons' past practices, they will have a tough time emerging from the general election campaign. john: i think it is unequivocally the third story. everybody looks at the clinton foundation -- the thing with the charity is sort of shocking. the fact that nancy pelosi is not being more robust in the defense of the clintons. she is a canary in the coal mine. if other demo

launching the campaign on april 12th mrs. clintont answered seven questions from reporters. that is astounding when you consider all the controversy surrounding her e-mails and the clinton foundation and provocative statements such as this. >> i would fight to stop the attacks of people such as this that would put those at risk of deportation, and if congress refuses to act, i would do everything possible under the law to go even further. >> joining us now with reaction from washington katie pavlich. all right, richard, i'm going to let you make an even stronger case than was made in the previous segment. hillary clinton has promised -- like barack obama of course transparency and openness she is on a listening tour but there is going to be a lot of transparency in this campaign. do you think her response to the legitimate questions about the deleted e-mails and now the clinton foundation is an example of that type of transparency? >> well laura, let me ask a question -- >> is that a yes or no? >> if a candidate answers hours of ques

even as bill said this week one for the clintons and one for everybody else. >> guy's got to pay the bills. got to pay the bills with $500,000 speaking engagement. leave it right there. coming up troubled cities like baltimore spending big bucks on school kids but are taxpayers getting a good return on their money? we debate, you decide. is there with what voters are looking for. we'll see you at the top of the hour. >>> kauls growing to get more morning to inner city schools in the wake of the baltimore riots, but listen to this. in 2012 baltimore public schools spent more than 15 grand per student, the third highest of any large city and 3% higher than the national avrnl, but only 16% of their eight graders are proficient in reading and 13% in math so michelle throw more money at this. >> when you have a problem in america, throw more money at it. >> it's the liberals. obviously, it's not working. i really think this is a civil rights issue of our generation that people cannot choose the type of school the type of education they want. that they can only go to the school in their ow

the clintons is his achilles heel with the background. i used to interview him and spun by him as a campaign operative and a wlin on the white house aide and as an anchor to give the money to the clinton foundation while covering the story is in itself a grave error in judgment but then to not tell his bosses at abc news to not disclose it to the viewers, it's unthinkable. >> what -- now that abc comes out and says we stand behind him but as you point out, he's removed himself from hosting abc's presidential debate. so my question to you is if you do that as a journalist and you acknowledge that you are too conflicted to host the presidential debate aren't you too conflicted to cover the presidential race? how are the view earls supposed to trust him in the lead-up to the debate and the postmortem after the debate but not the debate itself? >> the point is he's going to be covering if abc doesn't change the mind on this wouldn't give him a rhetorical slap on the wrist. covering the campaign of a woman he worked with as first lady. the cli

he worked for the clintons. is is all about hillary, this was an anti-hillary campaign against her. the gop does not want her to be president and they will do and say everything they can. george has established himself as a credible anger and newsperson. he has made the transition from the political world into the media world. i do not see the conflict at all. host: back to jack shafer's article in "politico." will stephanopoulos survived in his role as abc news' chief anchor? he has agreed to give up his role as the moderator of the gop debate. richard is in san diego. what is your view? caller: my view is that he has committed absolutely no breach of ethics in interviewing peter schweitzer. you had peter schweitzer on for 45 minutes last friday. he was followed up saturday and sunday. i have not seen any follow-up on his defense, which has done great work. to argue the speculative nation of the investigation, i do not think it presents any conflict. this is a mean of getting hillary, as in earlier caller said.

the clintons i think represent a unique example of that. they've taken in some $130 million in bill's post-presidential years. this arrangement you had with her as secretary of state and him taking in large sums of money from foreign interest. we've never been there before. my fear with this is that this could become a model for other politicians. >> and i think you raise important questions, but you do describe yourself as a conservative journalist who has worked for conservative politicians, so can you how there would be skepticism among liberals and those in the media that you are pursuing an agenda? >> no. i think what people should do is look at the facts. my skepticism and conservatism springs from a skepticism about centralized political power. i'm a libertarian in that sense. and i think that's a legitimate position to have. i think the question comes down to the reporting and to the information contained in the book. and that's ultimately how i think it should rise or fall. >> you don't think when you work with republican politicia

donations were made to the clinton foundation by not only fifa but the government. bill clinton was very vocal about trying to get world cup soccer to the united states. he failed on both accounts. a huge rumor we are following for you right now. the government gave the clinton foundation money after the fact. first, $110 million alleged in bribes. this is world cup soccer. billions of dollars in business. $5.72 billion in revenue. also the entire system, shockingly rumored to be corrupt. we are talking about racketeering. wire fraud and money laundering. countries getting the world cup. shelling out more than $400 million for the last cycle for broadcast rights.entieth century fox. $1.1 billion. the next cycle. all of this is unfolding moment by moment. we have a feeling that the story will continue and get even more interesting than it is right now. melissa: cheryl, thank you so much. fifa donating thousands of dollars to the clinton foundation. let's bring the panel back in for discussion. >> out there lobbying to try to get the games. they reportedly gave 250-$50

were not facing the allegations of the paid information to clinton. is yet more information to come out on the activities. >> i know the democratic spin is this is old news vast right wing conspiracy after "the new york times" and "the washington post." and even "the atlantic" wrote about this. do you think this is a little odd at least, if this involved a republican secretary of state democrats would have just shrugged it off, as well? >> no i think a lot of questions are fine. but that is not hard evidence. even the author of this book said there is no hard evidence to back this. so looking at the spin zone if you trace back everything that has been haunting hillary clinton as a candidate even before she announced, let's start with the e-mails, her favorability rate and the way people see her as a leader has only gone up. >> we're about to dissect that right now. >> you can do that all you want but this is supposed to be -- >> i just want to make sure on the record on the record you want to say that you would take the same attitude with an appearanc

this is the best thing for the clintons and i look forward to both purchases from the hillary clintonuper pac. that's all i can say. they have done two things simultaneously. they have claimed that there's nothing to this book that it is a dead end their words. but at the same kind of mounted a very aggressive campaign against me. so what is it? is that they died or something are concerned about? i think they're concerned about the they've seen the recent poll numbers but the fact that well over half of the american people don't consider hillary clinton trustworthy and that approach to this that i think reinforces it. she's not discuss these issues at all. she's avoided it when the press pool has asked her questions about. when the book was first coming out before cannot be selectively leaked it to allies inin the press. they then had chelsea come out to vouch for the wonderful work of the foundation is doing and the ethics of the family. when that didn't work they had bill clinton make these sort of frankly bizarre statements about me from africa and it still hasn't gone away. so the

but of course he worked for the clintons. sh for the last 18 years. >> this blunder by stephanopoulos is so severe it threatens to undo what he's accomplished in his 18 years at abc news. i used to interview him. yes it's that serious because the clintons is his achilles heel because of his background. for a top abc anchor to give the money to the clinton foundation while covering the story is a grave error in judgment. but then to not tell his bosses at abc news, to not disclose to it the viewers it's unthinkable. >> brian williams gets suspended and then abc starts running the nightly news battle and feeling pretty good. this could hurt their overall brand as people say isn't that the place where george steve, how fair and balanced is he. >> he'll no longer be partake i in that debate. he was asked by john stewart about those donors and foreign donors. >> he says give donations for influence. >> you wonder who else was part of those donations out there? >> will it taint his legacy. >>> 12 minutes now after the hour. he proba

and i expect the public to go, well, it's just the clintons. ink that really people are just immune to the fact that they're associating the clinton scandal. charles: i hear you. >> is it just the clintons or really just politicians? >> no. >> they're a little bit worse than the rest. charles: i've heard people say, listen, it's the right and the left. they've taken this bad boy to a whole new level. >> absolutely agree. charles: this is like steroids. all right, but, lori, let's talk about college tuition. a lot of parents watching the show, they wish they had been in some of these stocks. they don't know how they'll do it. it's a painful time. it was revealed, yale published their financials two nights ago or last night. and the presidents, these guys making four, five, $6 million. how do they get away with that? >> it's a vicious circle because these institutions have the cash because they're able to raise the tuition. we know the answer as to why. we talk about the student loan debt bubble. just the next bubble likely to burst. i mean, gover

he says the clintons, it was a difficult transition from the bushes to the clintons. ian: here is gary walters talking about the impeachment time in the white house. >> we talked about tough times in the white house in early administrations. what about times during the impeachment? how did the staff deal with that? brian: quiet. the resident staff takes its lead from the first family. when things aren't going well. when family have lost their parents. mrs. clinton obviously did. the president did. there have been times like that. it is very solemn. we just do our job and try to make things as mundane as possible. was there a door slammed here and there? possibly, but we just carry on. brian: how much of the stuff you wrote about the clintons made it a bestseller? kate: the fact she is running, people are intensely curious about her and what they are really like. i think the book shows her as a multifaceted person, like everyone is. not only was there difficult times, but there are also very sweet stories. there is a story in the book about how a president was very upse