he did not assert himself as the moderator. cnbc paid no attention, to all the signals that were pointing at they were the low hanging fruit and the candidates were going to go after them. the third leg of that stool you've got to come to a debate armed with good questions and your sources and where you got that information so that when trump through that very disingenuous misstatement back at the cnbc questioner, she had nowhere to go. she couldn't immediately say it's on your website. you've got to be able to be armed with the weapons that you need. in a way it's weapons because the goal is not to beat the candidates. the goal is to have the candidates emerge and speak so that voters know who their going to have to go into that booth or caucus and support for president. >> absolutely. thank you so much for being here and shearing your perspective. >>> you have to hear from dan rather. his surprising view of cnbc's performance. also a look at whether the real loser is journalism itself. >>> we'll reboot and take a look at apple's a

\s >>> on the buzz beater, the republican party declares war on nbc after the awful debate on cnbc, with the moderators sometimes sounding snarky, conned se condesce condescending. >> they said you have as much cutting taxes without increasing the deficit as you would away of flying frrp from that podium. when you look at the average of national polls right now is donald trump. when you look at him, do you see someone with the moral authority to unite a economy. >> that's such a nasty question, but thank you, governor. >> even in new jersey what you're doing is called rude. >> the questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the american people don't truth the media. >> the democrats have the ultimate super-pac, called the mainstream media. >>> why is the business network being so widely panned. will the rnc dump the upcoming debate. >>> and launching a deathwatch for jeb bush. >>> and why is donald trump after losing his lead in some polls calling the media scum? >>> and we unveil our new microscope using cutting hef edge technology to how the candidates are being

the real loser of that debate turned out to be cnbc and the real winners, i think cnbc, let's give them credit, they did one thing i didn't think was possible. they brought all the republican candidates together on that stage. they brought us together in spirit and unity in our equal contempt about the manner in which that debate was conducted. >> i really appreciated what you did during that debate because you, governor christie, marco rubio, and ted cruz got it all started. you guys took on the media, but you also did something that impressed me, you said i'm wearing a trump tie and everybody up here would do a much better job than our current president or any of the democrats running for president. i'm sure that's not easy to do when you want the job, but you did it, anyway. >> well, look, i think all of us are trying out to be the quarterback, but i want to get the job because i play a better game, not because i broke the legs of the other people trying out. the fact is i don't like anybody -- >> you're not planning on breaking any fellow republicans' legs in the course of this? tha

it got so bad that after the cnbc forum, the candidates toyed against the media and their own party eventually backed off. nobody is refusing to participate. but in fact, all of the capped dates want a podium for the main event. why? a year away from election day, we'll be debating the debates. it's the "inside story." >> welcome to "inside story," i'm ray suarez. while the democratic debates have been rather sedate affairs overall, the gop encounters have not, one candidate made fun of another's looks, and one got away with missing a question about tax plans by turning the answer into an attack on the media. the republican national committee yanked a scheduled debate from nbc to punish the network for the cnbc debate. but no candidate has talked about not participating. quite the opposite, everybody wants to play and grumble about the proceedings. more from michael shure about tonight's debate. >> the way that the republicans were united, how it was at fix, we all don't like the way that the cnbc debate happened. we want to revolt about the questions and how they put it on. but when they got

. >> on the buzz beater this sunday, the republican party declares war on nbc after the debate on cnbc with the moderators sounding snarky and hostile. >> is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign? they said you have as much chance of cutting taxes as flying away from the podium by flapping your arms. when you look at the average in the national polls the leader is drum truck. do you see someone with the moral authority to unite the country. >> such a nasty question. but, thank you, governor. >> i have to tell you the truth even in new jersey what you are doing is called rude. >> the questions that have been asked so far in the debate, illustrate why the american people don't trust the media. >> the democrats have the ultimate super pac, called the mainstream media. >> why is the debate being so widely panned? is the press that declared marco rubio calling him the winner looking for a death march for jeb bush. why does donald trump call the media scum? >> we have our new media microscope using cutting edge technology on how the candidates are covered on television, radio,

the republican national committee yanked a scheduled debate from nbc to punish the network for the cnbc debate. but no candidate has talked about not participating. quite the opposite, everybody wants to play and grumble about the proceedings. more from michael shure about tonight's debate. >> the way that the republicans were united, how it was at fix, we all don't like the way that the cnbc debate happened. we want to revolt about the questions and how they put it on. but when they got to the table, and we want to figure out how to make it better, they all had different ideas, and they all didn't sit down at the same table. ben carson, his reason for being there was to get more time and more statements. and chris christie said ask me anything, and i'll answer. and jeb bush wanted more time to answer substantive questions, and they all came with different ideas and all left unhappy. nothing happened there, and donald donned said that he would negotiate directly with the networks themselves. but when you talk about the debates, you talk about having nine debates, only nine debates. last

the biographies and graphics used for jeb bush didn't mention he was the governor of florida in the cnbche interesting twist is that donald trump has decided he will unilaterally negotiate for himself and not be part of this group negotiation. there was a real reaction to the cnbc debate, and like grandpa said, they're a pretty hot commodity. networks are making a lot of money off this. i think in some ways this is a side show. if they get all these things, we can then maybe have a debate about their actual ideas and we'll see if it's helping the party or not. >> you mentioned donald trump. he wants to negotiate directly with the networks. a couple of the candidates, chris christie, carly fiorina said, i'll debate anywhere, any time. you set up the podiums, we're ready to go. >> john kasich's campaign is not likely to sign this letter, maybe some others. i think this will end up back with the rnc after all this hubbub. the problem with the cnbc debate was that the mod rarts didn't seem to take conservative debates seriously. i'm not friend of donald trump, but the question about him runn

the host after cnbc was bashed by republican officials last time around. st night the candidates, at least, they seem pretty happy. >> i thought it was great. i thought the moderators were elegant. i thought the questions were really, really on point. >> i think the moderators stuck to the issues. we each had time to make our debate. >> i thought it was a food debate. i had more time. i had a few more opinions i wanted to express. >> brian in milwaukee. >> hey, john, hey, christine, the reviews are in. they're positive for the fox business network. definitely a lot more positive two weeks ago. the moderators of the cnbc debate were almost universally criticized for the tone of their questions and letting the debate get out of control. what we saw from the moderators on fox business, it was a more controlled debate. there were only a few times it seems like the candidates took over. one of those times was when donald trump, himself, acted like a pod rater. here's what he said about jeb bush. >> they moved a million-and-a-half people out. we have no choice. w

the biographies and graphics used for jeb bush didn't mention he was the governor of florida in the cnbc debate. the interesting twist is that donald trump has decided he will unilaterally negotiate for himself and not be part of this group negotiation. there was a real reaction to the cnbc debate, and like grandpa said, they're a pretty hot commodity. networks are making a lot of money off this. i think in some ways this is a side show. if they get all these things, we can then maybe have a debate about their actual ideas and we'll see if it's helping the party or not. >> you mentioned donald trump. he wants to negotiate directly with the networks. a couple of the candidates, chris christie, carly fiorina said, i'll debate anywhere, any time. you set up the podiums, we're ready to go. >> john kasich's campaign is not likely to sign this letter, maybe some others. i think this will end up back with the rnc after all this hubbub. the problem with the cnbc debate was that the mod rarts didn't seem to take conservative debates seriously. i'm not friend of donald trump, but the question abou

in fact, republican ted cruz, who led the rally against the cnbc moderators was still talking about it while on a hunting trip to akron, iowa last weekend. >> the democratic primaries are moderated by liberal democrats and that's perfectly fine. that's what you would expect. but i have suggested a very, very simple rule, how about the moderators of republican primaries actually be republicans? stacey: we will bring in dennis on this discussion, does he have a point? >> i have always said that the constituency of the moderator is the voting public and the job of a debate moderator is to try to get as much information as possible and draw distinctions as clearly a month candidates -- among candidates. >> you are nodding your head. an answer for a question. these are based on policy and making the candidate as much as possible, getting an answer to that question. sometimes that means you play the devil's advocate, maybe it's adjusting a point of view and asking the candidate to tell you why it is wrong, that does not mean you insult the candidate. candidates, they must defend their candid

the polls i've led every date. number one in every debate. even cnbc said the last debate, it was their debate, they said i won the debate. i like the debates -- >> let me ask you a very important question. >> i like the debates. i don't really care that much, to be honest. this is more of an issue for other people. the networks are making a fortune with the debates. i think they should give money to the wounded warriors and to the veterans. they are making a fortune. they used to have 2 million people watching. now they are having 24, 25 million watching and even though it's because of trump and i won't say that, 24, 25 million people watching, they should give some of the money to the wounded warriors and to the veterans. >> let's say you become president. let's talk about the first 100 days. what would you do specifically on the economy? what would you do on health care, the borders, what would you do about putin and this horrible iranian deal? walk me through those 100 days how fast you think you could act and get on that path, as you say, to make

harry truman 30 second response. >> here are the cnbc question to you. what's your biggest weakness. which other candidate is crazy? what about the export bank. student loans and marijuana. those aren't tough questions. i have a tough question to you. how do you explain to the voters, the g.o.p., the republican holes say we are against everything obamacare yet you took money from obamacare and how you handle your obamacare subsidy in ohio? how do you respond to that? >> first of all medicaid is is the program for the poor. i took the growth from 10% to 2.5%. we didn't cut bun benefit. what we have learned about that is healthcare reform which is providing quality not quantity healthcare. i have a plan to replace obamacare so people don't lose health insurance. you can't say you are going to get rid of aobamacare without having viable alternative so we can begin to reduce the cost of healthcare make sure people don't lose their health coverage. >> i interview a lot of candidates. i talk to at love people and the perception is, kasich, we love him he is mor

and that was a mistake that the cnbc people made. >> jimmy: but now it's a big deal. now they're signing letters. they're not gonna go. jeb bush wants to do telemundo then donald trump says no way. he's not gonna do it. it's like -- it's insane. it's great for us. great for comedy, but -- [ light laughter ] >> the next debate is next tuesday on the fox business channel. >> jimmy: yeah. >> so they're prepping now for it. i think you'll see a different presentation, but as we said in

asking trump where she read jim: the audience for the cnbc debate was how many million? pat: 14 million. john: why so far below the first two republican debates? how many in the first? pat: 25 million, fox. john: what was the second one? 22. you have to get with it. 23. pat: you're reading from your card now. [laughter] the presidential debates that had to compete with a world series baseball game. pat: also on a much smaller network. john: rank has its privileges. pat: look, john, one of the reasons it's smaller. we all tune in at one time or another to ms, fox, cnn. we all don't tune into the cnbc business channel. eleanor: it was a big all of a sudden for them. john: huge. speaker, a new deal. pumpkin excitement is back at dunkin'. pick up your favorite pumpkin-flavored baked treats and beverages, like the new pumpkin macchiato before pumpkin season is over. i'm chris bosh. when i was sidelined with blood clots in my lung, it was serious. fortunately, my doctor had a game plan. treatment with xarelto . hey guys! hey, finally, somebody i can look up to... ...besides arn

the candidates did not like the cnbc debate because the questions were disrepectful. the cnbc folks in the early debate did fine but it's good for the candidtes to flex their muscles a little bit so that they aren't at the mercy of the netwtwk or the rnrnthat organizes so it's sort of that ti-etababshment part but at some point, it starts to devolve into one candidate wantone thing and anoher wants another thing but they are competing with each other r so there's no surprise there." every week -- we'll be going inside iowa politics -- talking about the people not trying to move into the white house. is week -- people across the nation went to the polls for an off-year election. election.no federal offices were decided this year but one major issue was in ohio.that state was considering legalizing marijuana for both medicinal and recreational use. they'd be following in the footsteps of states like colorado and washington -- who have gradually built a large and legal network -- selling the drug like any other product.but ohio said no and for some -- that's a big proble

it's all a part of the backlash following the cnbc debate. candidates cite si s criticized for its part and criticized the moderators for so-called gotcha questions. it got me thinking, what constitutes a gotcha question. i posted that on my facebook page, and my followers wrote back in force. this from she says, it seems the question is a question the person answering doesn't want to answer or doesn't know the answer. this could be an example. watch. >> can you name the president of taiwan? >> li. >> the new pakistani general just elected. took over office. he appears to bring stability to the country, and i think that's good news. >> can you name the general? >> i can't. >> prime minister of india? >> the new prime minister of india is -- no. >> okay. so robin has a different view. quote, i believe a gotcha question can be summed up as a question where the answer is going to get you in trouble with people, no matter what you say or how you answer it. it wasn't that long ago when cbs reporter drew criticism for this gotcha question. >> can yo

>> well, the tone was very, very different from what we saw late last month about with the cnbc debate. as you eluded to before, there was a lot of criticism for how the moderators handled that. fox business network and "wall street journal" who hosted this one said they really wanted to focus on policy and i think we did see that tonight. >> what about the candidates? anyone have a breakout moment or a significant moment for you? >> i didn't see any in the main stage debate real single moment that stole the show. i do think in the undercard debate, we saw chris christie, who are recently been demoted to that junior varsity stage have a couple of moments that looked really good for him. >> if -- if anybody believes the stuff they heard from that democratic debate a few weeks ago, there is nothing for free. what they forgot to tell you was that -- >> so we are just seeing a little bit of chris christie right now. you know, i wondered whether or not being on the undercard stage would actually help him? because there are fewer candidates, despite the fact that fewer people will probably s

. >> reporter: donald trump praised moderators on a debate the cnbc debate last month. >> i thought the moderators did a great job. the kept was good and no fantasy football stuff like last time. >> reporter: there was a lot of speculation that the tension between marco rube on yo and jeb bush would spill over during this debate but the two did not take jabs at each other. there was a notable performance in bush's performance after he hired a media trainer and performance analysts say will carry him right to the next round next month. weijia jiang, cbs news, milwaukee. >>> for more on last night's debate we are joined from chicago by hunter walker. good morning, hunter. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> let's get right into it. what stood out to you about the debate? >> well, the tone was very, very different from what we saw late last month about with the cnbc debate. as you eluded to before, there was a lot of criticism for how the moderators handled that. fox business network and "wall street journal" who hosted this focus on policy and i think we did see that tonigh

the defense. let their surrogates whine and let them complain. cnbc was exposed and they looked nasty and unprepared and candidates should be focusing on their message and not poor little me. look, if you can't handle those questions, some of the candidates did, others did not do well, then they shouldn't be in office. reagan had tremendous media bias. tremendous. he didn't complain. he really just kicked their butts and that's what i think the republicans need to do. the rnc should have fixed this a long time ago. there was no excuse, eric. it is unforgivable that they let this happen. >> before you answer that i want to do something else. i want to look at jeb bush. jeb bush apparently is having a great time on the candidacy. >> you told donors today on a conference call that you said you'll get better at this. what will you do to get better at this? >> look, we have eight more debates and i'll have to do what other candidates do which is rudely interrupt, not answer the questions that are asked and hopefully the debate moderators will hopefully ask

both presidential campaigns coming together for a rare strategy session in the wake of the cnbc debate debacle. changing the format of future debates. live from washington we are here to breakdown the proposal. >> finding common ground is never easy when you are dealing with 15 competing campaigns. last night representatives for almost all of the presidential campaigns agreed on a series of demands giving them greater control of future debates. during a two-hour long meeting they agreed to a two-hour time limit mandatory 30 seconds fore opening and closing statements and the same speaking time. this meeting was a direct result on cnbc which the candidates said was unfair and unbiased. they have already stop the partnership with nbc news. they are trying to wrestle some control over the rnc so they can negotiate directly with the networks before the debates. >> i would lake to see us be able to have, you know, a substantial opening statement at least a minute, a substantial closing statement at least a minute. i would like to see tighter guidelines in terms of people when they respond t

. >>> president obama cheerfully mocking republican candidates and complaints about the cnbc debate. the president tried out comment timing at the democratic fund-raiser in new york last night. >> have you noticed that every one of the candidates say obama's weak. putin's kicking sand in his face. when i talk to putin he's going to straighten out. just looking at him. and then it turns out they can't handle a bunch of cnbc moderators. [ applause ] i mean let me tell you if you can't handle -- if you can't handle those guys, you know, i don't think the chinese and russians are going to be too worried about you. >> that was funny. the president is the least of the republicans worries this morning. their efforts to put up a united front for more control of future debates is starting to fall apart. this as a pair of new polls paint a confusing picture of the gop race. cnn's sara murray has the latest. >> reporter: good morning, alison and miguel. a new poll shows it is not donald trump leading nationwide. ben carson is the frontrunner in the new nbc news/wall street journal poll. trump st

it as was easier in the words of one campaign manager to mess with cnbc than fox news. >> thank you, dave weigel. i'm joined by democratic pollster and political strategist stanley greenberg who advised the presidential campaigns of bill clinton and al gore. author of the new book "america ascendant." you have been in politics a while. have you ever seen anything like what is going on institutionally with the republican party right now? >> no. and we are all in awe each day. but it also appears to me quite naked. i think what i realize and i think it's very real, the rnc doesn't have any power. it is not the republican party. we have watched a republican party that's mounted a ferocious counterrevolution to the trends in this country. it's built over a decade. and the voters that are backing these candidates want these candidates to be fighting the party, fighting the leadership. they failed them. and i think we are watching the republican -- modern republican party but naked. >> there's a chapter in your book called "the death of the republican party." i mean, this is something -- i

plus the president's insta poll, what didn't you hear at the cnbc ke debate that you would like to hear on the fox business >>> an outraged rnc says they have suspended their partnership with fnc because of cnbc's handling of the third debate. joining us is someone who knows a little bit about behind one of those podiums, presidential candidate and business has herrmann kaine. to the rnc says that they will not take part in the fnc debate. do you think he would have done this without the candidates's approval? >> no, he would not have. and the good news that came out of that debate is that the candidates won and the moderators lost. and i'm glad that the chairman dared to say that we're not going to take that blatant liberal bias that they displayed the other night. so that's positive. but one thing that came out of this is the democratic biasa came out of this. they were able to give some substance to the american people, but they had to dig to be able to do it. >> what does ry co-do they haveo make sure that this is going to be a fair debate. >> allow the candidates and the -- we knew

and that was a mistake that the cnbc people made. >> jimmy: but now it's a big deal. now they're signing letters. they're not gonna go. jeb bush wants to do telemundo then donald trump says no way. he's not gonna do it. it's like -- it's insane. it's great for us. great for comedy, but -- [ light laughter ] >> the next debate is next tuesday on the fox business channel. >> jimmy: yeah. >> so they're prepping now for it. i think you'll see a different presentation, but as we said in the opening stuff, these guys got to stop whining. you think you're being treated unfairly -- [ applause ] you got a microphone. let them have it. >> jimmy: absolutely. >> you know, let them have it. i mean that's why trump is ahead in the polls, because he just says what he wants to say and he takes on all comers, and the folks want to see what you're made out of. >> jimmy: yeah. that's what, i think the people want now, right? they want someone to say i'm going to fix or i'm gonna change or do something right. i gonna fix -- >> this is at a unique time in american history. for the first t

atlanta journal-constitution, the spin room consensus -- cnbc lost the debate. redstate, cnbc dumpster fire debate. is some of that criticism fair? >> i think -- >> you were there? >> sure. they could have omitted some of those questions. a tone in couple of them were a little harsh. but if you look at the transcript, there were a lot of very tough questions posed to those candidates. and in several cases rather than answer the question they trashed the media. >> the right questions for the debate? >> i think some could have been omitted. there were also, a question posed to ben carson about a question to marco rubio, does he really like his job, and he didn't really answer it. why he would allow the debt ceiling to raised? >> how should the media react to this? >> what would the republicans have if not to have the media to some of the questions were gotcha questions. i think that the fox debate, the very first debate, was a real model, because those questions were substantive, they were really tough, too, and i think the toughest thing about cnbc the moderators

chairman previous: the debate over sanctioning or not is with the cnbc. >> should have moderators who are interested in disseminating the information about the candidates as opposed to, you know, gotcha. >> if you have never voted in a republican primary in your life, you don' t get to moderate a republican primary debate. carolyn: the changes agreed to indict closed-door meeting include largely bypassing the rnc and coordinating with host. and equal questions for all the candidates as well as mandatory opening and closing statements. the letter will officially outlined the request in the coming days. emily: the city of boston is getting tough on indycar promoters ahead of a labor day race. the grand prix of boston is supposed to happen in september 2016. on friday, the herald obtained an email, showing the mayor wants indycar to finalize deals with state agencies in the next 2 weeks. mayor walsh has signed a deal with indycar that could put taxpayers on the hook for security and road improvements. erika: sprint is cutting jobs. more details are expected tomorrow, when the wireless ca

we saw this in the cnbc debate as well. y tactic to take on the republican side, if you face tough questioning turn it on to the media. but i think that any candidate at this level is going to face scrutiny about their past and questions and if he doesn't want to answer those questions, if he's constantly deflecting on to the media, i think that at some point voters are going to stop and say, you know, like every other candidate faces these same types of questions. why does ben carson think he doesn't have to answer them? >> you write about carson's devotion to the seventh day adventist church. how much of the world view is based on his religious beliefs and the doctrines? >> i think that's a large part of the whole world view. i think he's shaped very much not in the way he approaches politics, sort of the role of government, but how he thinks, you know, the history of the world some of the things he said about his world view is the literal interpretation of the bible. but he's always been able to reconcile both sides of th

let's look at the cnbc debate. ted cruz gets asked a question about the debt ceiling and he goes on about the media and the unfair questions. he was asked about the debt ceiling. that's a substantive question. the campaigns have to bear the brunt of this as well. most people would agree that cnbc did not do the best job in terms of asking questions that were wholly substantive. >> we understand that none of these conditions will be in effect for the next debate nine days from now, that's the fox business network debate. there was some suggestion in the "washington post" this morning that the campaigns didn't want to press fox on changing anything because they were afraid of roger ailes. what have you heard. >> i spoke to four of the participants last night. they said that was misinterpreted that fox debate is a week away. in many ways these debates are complex, hard to put together. they're hard to line up. i think there's an acknowledgement that these campaigns could not exert enough pressure on fox to get what the

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and i'm going to stay focused on it. >> i am sure you know there has been at love controversy over the cnbc debate. did you think it was fair? >> i think they lost control over it. the only unfair part was they said it was going to be a certain kind of debate and it wasn't anything close to what they said. all i want is just to know what the rules are and people will apply those rules correctly and faithfully and fairly. i don't think -- i think they lost control. >> in recent days we have learned that another american of iranian dissent has been taken into custody in tehran. if you are president of the united states, we have got four other americans, a pastor, a marine, a journalist and a former fbi agent. what would do you? >> it's outrageous. i would reengage 'our european allies particularly to reimpose sanctions as best we can. and i would confront iranian ambitions in the region i would continue to support as we always have had in the past support the ambitions of those who want to be free. there are all sorts of tools at our disposal if we are serious about doing that that's what we

. >> mark: the controversy of the cnbc debate for the republican candidates has had serious backlash.idates are looking for greater control. >> we need to let everyone have a chance this speak. >> mark: the candidates won a two hour time limit and one equal speaking time for every candid it. and what to cut broadcast media out of the question that entirely. initially kindled it's only get 60 seconds and then 30 seconds but there's a demand have 96 atkins answer questions and 60 seconds if you like to respond. >> darya: the pope is going to mexico to address the violence. mexican officials and ecclesiastical leaders would like the pope to talk about the mexican-american border issues. >> mark: there is a product that will kill bacteria on this surface within two years to zero hours and the last four years. taylor swift has been slapped with a lawsuit by songwriter any grammar. it is over the alliance's leaders began to hate lawyers can apply--haters gonna hate and players gonna play. the mark stood honda rate is coming and heavy in the south and east base and we will have the mark stoo