this coming from the co-pilot's cell phone. it turns out it was on. a u.s. knowledge says malaysia knows this because the phone was searching for service after the jet lost contact. we will go live to the flight simulator, but first, today, a new and critical phase of the search, 39 days after the

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and why would the co-pilot use this form of communication, you know, for various scenarios. e was locked out of the cockpit under nefarious scenario but he wouldn't know where he was because there's no way of knowing without navigation equipment. >> we don't know what could be behind it. >> the fact that it was just a brief one and never made a connection would be typical if it's flying over a cell, flying too fast to communicate but fast enough to make that connection. so that's what i would wonder if it's actually just made a connection or indict connect and then try to transmit. again, we don't know. >> mary, even though the instinct is to say it wouldn't make any sense for the co-pilot to turn on his cell phone there's nothing that makes sense about this entire tragedy so far. could very well have been -- i mean he was trying to make contact. we simply don't know. >> sure. could make sense if you had some sort of catastrophic event after they said good night malaysian 370 and they had a catastrophic event that took out the communications the pilot could have said to the c

revelations about the co-pi lot's cell phone, a u.s. official tells cnn the phone made contact with a cell tower in malaysia about the time the plane vanished from radar. what does it mean? here in boston we're remembering another moment that shocked so many around the world, one year ago tonight this town was giddy with the anticipation of another boston marathon. but with no idea the two brothers with two pressure cooker bombers, bombs would turn that finish line into a battlefield. tonight begins a special week here, a chance to mourn lives lost and bodies broken but also a chance to celebrate what makes boston strong. like a man in the cowboy hat, carlos who jumped into the crowd to help the wounded. he'll join me along with john, the photographer who took this iconic image for the "sports illustrated" cover. a pulitzer prize for their work. >>> it is great to be here in boston. great to be across from the old south church about 100 yards from the finish line. so much healing has gone on here. we'll meet some fantastic folks later in

for a member of the crew, the co-pilot to have his phone on, how unusual is that? or is there sort of a different standard for the crew versus the passengers because any passenger will tell you, you get alerted over and over again to turn off your cell phone before the flight takes off. >> well, you know, i've spent thousands of hours riding in the cockpit with pilots and observing them and monitoring their performance and, you know, obviously when the faa inspector is sitting behind you, you turn off your cell phone. so i'm not sure that's indicative of it. there are times when people forget. going back to the fact that there were not a lot of cell phones trying to make a connection, there was only one. suspicious in my mind. >> important to note that even though we have this information, it doesn't tell us a motive, who was alive, who was dead. a lot of unanswered questions. david soucie and peter goelz, thank you. >> thank you. >> continuing with the missing flight 370. barring any snags or delays we should be seven hours into a new and critical phase for the sea

the co-pilot's phone was not turned off and it was on after the plane full of passengers disappeared. it's got aviation experts and officials believing that this opens up even more questions about what was happening in the cockpit. >> sources tell cnn that fariq ab hamid's phone was on. information cnn has learned that malaysian authorities gave to the u.s. a while ago. >> it would be very rare, in my opinion, to have someone with a cell phone on in the cockpit. it's never supposed to be on at all. it's part of every check list that i'm familiar with. >> reporter: sources say that malaysian authorities told the u.s. that a cell tower in penang, malaysia, roughly 200 miles from where the plane turned around, picked up a ping from fariq's cell phone. he could have tried to do something with the phone. we don't know. >> the interesting thing about that is no other phone was connected to it. it's just specifically his cell phone. >> there's no evidence that the first officer tried to make a call with a phone. on sunday, malaysia's transport minister did not deny the possibility. >> as far

officials that the co-pilot's cell phone made a connection to the tower. officials here don't say anything. they don't deny it. they certainly won't come on record and back it up and they are not giving additional details. we know there is potential if one cell phone made connection to a cell phone tower there was potential for other phones belonging to the other 238 people on board to have made a connection but nothing from malaysian officials. that's very difficult for the families not to get answers. don? >> some of the families released a lot of questions they have for officials. we will get in to more detail later on. what kind of demands are they making of the authorities? >> yeah, they have got 26 questions. a lot of them focus on the emergency location transmitter. 12 focus on that. they want to know specifics, the frequency, were the devices tested prior to the flight? how many were on the plane? were the crew trained to use them? were they supposed to deploy, come in to effect when they made contact with water? if they sank in the water, were the

what are you hearing about the co-pilot's cell phone being on during the flight? are learning from sources with knowledge of the investigation that the first officer's phone was not turned off like it should have been and was on 30 minutes after the plane communications shut off. this is according to information that malaysian shared with u.s. investigators a while ago. and that data is from a cell tower from penang, malaysia 250 miles from where that plane turned around indicating it detected a signal from the first officer's phone. >> there is no confirmation of calls that were made. >> that's right. officials have been pouring over phone records. and there is no indication that anyone placed a phone call on that plane. the transport minister in malaysia wouldn't rule out the possibility that he tried to make a call and that is a possibility. we just don't know. >> does it raise suspicions even more about what was going on in the cockpit? how are investigators looking at it? >> it adds to the mystery and refocuses attention back on the cockpit. it says that the

now, we're told that the co-pilot's cell phone was on. know that cell phones try to reach out and connect to the nearest cell phone tower to prepare themselves to be ready to make a call, to get that connection to show the signal strength on the cell phone, and it appears to have been part of that connection between the co-pilot's cell phone and the nearest cell phone tower in penang on the coast there, as the plane passed overhead. what does that tell us? it potentially means that the aircraft was at a relatively low altitude as it came back across the malaysian peninsula. we know from sources here that about 80 miles further out to sea, the aircraft was down at about 4,000 to 5,000 feet above sea level. so, this information is sort of adding to the picture that we've been getting, that the plane was flying low back across the malaysian peninsula. we don't know, was the co-pilot trying to make a cell phone call? was his phone automatically reaching out to try to sort of handshake, make a connection with the nearest cell phone tower? we d

obviously, that is in the middle of the market heard several of you have co-ops in the market. oregon health and health republic, both of those names ring true there. each receive $60 million to start up as a co-op. are you familiar with how they're doing and how they're functioning within the exchange? >> no, i can get that information for you. it has been relatively low enrollment numbers. >> how's that working? the initiative was, the initial perspective was to create some nonprofit that is sitting out there so if compete, or the would go into places to market would not go. have you experienced that they are good competition for the others? >> we have had a very good turnout in terms of profit, taxable nonprofit and not-for-profit plans. i can't say there has been much discussion or analysis of the impact of the co-op. >> when you say there's not much discussion or analysis, can you tell me if there's any sense of relief that the co-ops are there? we would not have met articles about them? >> i don't believe so. i've not heard any of that conversation. again, the way or the w

initially they said it was the co-pilot and that the wording was different. now they have pilots together and got them to confirm, pilots who knew both the pilot and co-pilot, and said it was the phrase as we know now, good night, malaysian flight 370. and that is pretty standard information to be used when you're exiting one area of radar and going into another. but at all points, the confusion we're getting, who said what, who did what? and when, which is all crucial information to the investigation. >> it certainly is, michael holmes, we'll continue to stay tuned there in case we get more information on the final ping, and efforts to analyze the latest water signal. the tone, as you note, notably cautious, for their consistent tone throughout this search, that is as michael mentioned the way that many -- or not the way many are characterizing malaysian officials, tonight, "ac360's" randi kaye has more. >> reporter: frustration with the malaysian government. >> we want an explanation for the delay. >> reporter: it was the satellite company. not the malaysia

they determined on the ground it was the co-pilot on the radio and in the air the pilot on the radio, which would also mean by normal aircraft flight it would have been the co-pilot who would have been expected to be flying the aircraft at that time. why are we learning now? we believe in part because we're pushing for that information and it's coming to us because we're pushing. beyond that is only speculation. >> there is a grave concern among a lot of people who are hearing about these scrambled flights that went up to look for this airplane and in fact went west. none of us was ever told there was any westward direction for three days. the whole world was listening to a story about a plane that simply vanished. now, we're hearing apparently not so much. they knew a lot more than they were letting on. >> reporter: if we remember back to those day, the first sources we had telling us about the left turn were in fact military sources. what we know now and what we're being told now is that the military were told about 7:30 in the morning by malaysian airlines that flight 37 kilimanjar

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we also have intriguing questions about the co-pilot's cell phone. officials say it was turned on and searching for service around the time the plane van earned from radar. you have been tweeting us your questions by the thousands, and we have top aviation and security experts standing by to answer them, like this one from raymond. with all this technology we have, why did they wait to deploy a blue fin sub, why now, 38 days later? now i want to go right to cnn's reporters in the search zone. joe johns is in kuala lumpur. on this first day of being deployed, bluefin-21 had to l n return to the surface many hours before planned. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: it speaks to what we don't know about the ocean floor there. as we've said before, we know more about the surface of the moon than the ocean floor in that part of the indian ocean. now the bluefin-21 went down there. the best guess that they had was that the ocean floor might be 42 to 4400 meters down. well, the blue fin got to 4500 meters down, and that triggered an internal mechan

was the co-pilot trying to send someone a warning? we're live with the very latest this morning. >>> also, a tense standoff in ukraine. pro-russian protesters refuse to disarm, refuse to step aside. they're ignoring ukraine's threat to send in troops, as the u.s. and russia blame each other for the intensifying crisis. is war imminent? we're live with what's happening right now. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm christine romans. nice to see you again today, victor. >> good to be here. >> it's tuesday, april 15th, 4:00 a.m. in the east. we begin with the latest in the search for malaysia airlines flight 370 and the news breaking overnight that an unmanned underwater vehicle, this bluefin-21, found nothing of interest during its first search of the floor of the indian ocean. that journey ended abruptly after just six hours, when the unmanned sub had to surface after going too deep. this morning, crews preparing again to put the vehicle back in the water for another 16-hour trip, they hope, scanning for

for weeks we were told it was the co-pilot. in the meantime, crews looking for the wreckage now have new signals coming from the deep. the australian agency coordinating the search says this time it was an airplane that detected a possible black box signal from sonar buoys in the ocean. and not the ship with the pinger locator that it detected four previous sets of signals. we want to start, though, first with the investigative angle. these new revelations coming out from malaysian officials. nic robertson joins us live from kuala lumpur. nic, you broke this news this morning, the notion that the plane disappeared, then reappeared. lay out the implications here about altitude and what this means now for the investigation. >> reporter: well, this is the first time, john, that we've heard about any change in altitude of this aircraft. this is an important detail for investigators. ist it's something we've been chasing for some time. what we've heard is after it flew back across the malaysian peninsula, you remember it did a left t

officials that the co-pilot's cell phone made a connection to the tower. officials here don't say anything. they don't deny it. they certainly wouldn't come on record and back it up. and they're not at the moment giving any additional details. we know there is a potential that one cell phone had made connection to a cell tower. there was a potential for any of the other phones belonging to the other 238 people on board to have made a connection. but nothing from malaysian officials. and of course, that is very, very difficult for the families not to get answers, don? >> and nic, some of the families released a lot of questions they had for officials. we'll get into a little more detail later on. but what kind of demands are they making of the authorities? >> reporter: yeah, they have got 26 questions and a lot of them focus on the emergency locater transmission. 12 questions focus on that. they want to know specifics, the frequency, were these devices tested prior to the flight. were there -- you know, how many were on the plane? were the crew trained to u

was it indeed the pilot or was it the co pilot who was speaking? those are all things they still need to get to the bottom of, if they haven't already, wolf. >> are they explaining why they're not releasing that audiotape? >> well, you know, wolf, they keep on with the same line, which is this investigation is a private investigation. they did release this transcript to the family members. not holding my breath right now that we, meaning the media, will get ahold of those audiotapes, though. >> rene marsh, thanks very much. what is does the release of the transcript say about the investigation into the plane's disappearance? let's bring in our panel of experts, joining us, mark weise, cnn aviation analyst, former 777 pilot for american airlines. peter goelz is a cnn aviation analyst and former ntsb managing director. tom fuentes is our cnn law enforcement analyst, former assistant director of the fbi. mark, does anything jump out at you? you have read this transcript. you're a seasoned pilot. what does it say to you, if anything? >> well, as rene wa

investigators now say it was the pilot, not the co-pilot, who uttered the last words from the cockpit. so what does that tell us? >>> and a new ping coming from the ocean floor leading authorities to narrow the search zone even more as they try to zero in on those critical black boxes from flight 370.

we thought it was the co-pilot, the first officer. they said that originally.that be an easy thing to determine? >> no, no, not really. because you are talking about listening. well, let me go back on myself there. you should know who was doing the radio transmissions, because that would have been the pilot not flying, p.n.f., we believe the p.n.f. was the first officer. so, yes, it should have been hamid. over the radio, you would have to listen back to it and you would have to work out whose voice it was. yes, they can work it out that way. when they go back and actually listen to the tape. >> surely, they have done that. >> yes. i'm guessing. if you look into this, sometimes it is quite hard to hear exactly who was speaking particularly on a poor quality transmission. we believe, because the airliner first said it was hamid. >> a big reason the full transcript was released, the families have been putting so much pressure on malaysian authorities. might they continue to pressure the malaysian authorities. might that cause them to release other things that wou

because if the captain signed off, that would indicate that the co-pilot was no longer in the cockpit, back doing something which would kind of support the captain was the man in control for the rest of the flight theory. so that detail, i haven't got as yet. i don't believe it's out as yet of exactly what was making all the air traffic control communication up to that point. >> let me bring rene into this for a moment. rene, what are you hearing from your sources about this notion that the pilot actually was the last one who said, "good night malaysian 370"? >> well, wolf, you know, i guess the big question in all of this is, if this is true, if it truly was the captain who said those final words, what does it all mean? and in the grand scheme of things, we may be able to assume a couple of things. we may be able to assume that if the captain was one who was speaking to air traffic control, perhaps the co-pilot was the one who was in control of the plane. although that isn't necessarily true. it could be that, perhaps, under certain circumstances, the captain needed to be speaking to

the answers about the co-pilot's cell phone. pamela brown worked on that, what did you learn? well, anderson this is just another tiny piece of the puzzle. and experts and sources are trying to figure out what this information about the co-pilot's cell phone really means. what we do know is if any of the passengers' phones were on, they should have felt that ping. many forget to turn off their phones, likely it was not just the co-pilot's phone, but experts say the co-pilot's cell phone should have been off. so the question looms, was it on right before the plane took off, or half an hour after the plane's systems mysteriously shut off. and i want to make it clear here, anderson, sources say there is no indication any calls were placed. and again just because a phone connects with a cell phone doesn't mean a call can go through. and it is really tough to get the answers, and the information to know what all of this means. >> any information gleaned about the cell phones obviously could aid in the investigation. >> right, it could if certain factors become clear like the co-pil

i find it odd that it's just the co-pilot's cell phone that pinged on the tower.make a phone call. so far the sources that have told cnn is that, no, he wasn't in fact trying to make a call, just that his phone was picked up on that handshake as soon as they find a tower to talk to. >> what kind of information could investigators get, if they do determine that there were, i don't know, if ping is the right word, but passenger cell phones had communicated with towers? >> it would definitely tell us that either the passengers left their phones on, or that the passengers were trying to turn their phones on to communicate. in a really quick way that they could figure out whether they were left on, and this includes the co-pilot, is going back to the airport where this plane took off, and seeing the cell phone towers that are in the path of that takeoff, in the flight path, if you will. and if any of those towers on that path got that cell phone signal, and did a handshake with that phone, then it's very easy to conclude these were just things that were left on and thi

why did only the co-pilot's cell phone try to connect with the tower?s trying to make a call? investigators are not saying much. we have learned there's renewed focus on whether the cell signal was detected anywhere else. pamela brown brought us the tory earlier in the week. >> bottom line here, there are a lot of more unknowns than knowns at this point. questions are mounting. we've been speaking with experts, trying to figure out what it means the co-pilot's cell phone connected with the cell tower, this is according to the data from malaysia investigators are. it's very odd his cell phone would have only made contact with one cell tower. they say if it connected with that one tower, it should have connected with other nearby towers as well. another question we're trying to get answered here, was the phone turned on in the beginning of night or connecting with that tower? of course if that happened if it dinged that tower right before, a half hour after the plane's communication systems mysteriously shut off that of course would raise more questions a

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how could you possibly clear 239 people other than the pilot and the co-pilot, of course, you know in such a short span of time. and now they're walking it back, particularly since the fbi released their data, saying we didn't find anything about the pilot or the co-pilot, they're not mass murderers. if they were so clear about what they told everybody why didn't they speak up when they spent days searching in the south china sea? i just think there is a lot of ba backtracking now and cya going on because so much time was lost and people should have been speaking up and been a lot more transparent. and that is the biggest problem at all. the malaysian authorities have not been transparent. and that has hurt the investigati investigation. >> we have a lot more to talk about coming up. you can follow me at twitter @andersoncooper with any questions you have. next, we'll check out more with the search commander, commander marks. and later, what happens if the black boxes are recovered. you will be amazed how much information they can hold. that and more when we continue. you created ligh

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the item, the co-pilot's cell phone. pamela, what are you learning tonight? >> this is another tiny piece of the puzzle. expert s and sources we have been speaking with are trying to figure out what the information about the co-pilot's cell phone really means. we know that if any of the passengers were on and not in airplane mode they should have dinged the cell phone tower and considering 30% of people forget to turn off their phones according to too to a recent survey it is likely it wasn't just the co-pilot's phone but the phone should have been off. was it turned on before it hit the cell phone tower after the systems mysteriously shut off? i want to make it clear, sources say there's no indication any calls were placed. just because a phone connects to a cell phone tower doesn't mean a call can go through and it is tough to get the answers and information we need to know what this means. >> any information gleaned about the cell phones could aid the overall investigation. >> yeah, right. it could if certain factors become clear like the co-pilot's phone w

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>> with each affair we had indications there were problems with the co-pilot prior to the flight. they probably never should have ledlet him in the cockpit. with silk air it wasn't until a week or ten days after the accident we were able to start piecing together. there were suspicions but it wasn't until a week or ten days that the ntsb started to have a real picture that there could have been a problem. >> and it was the silk pilot who took out a million-dollar life insurance policy. >> yeah. >> something like that. stand by. we'll continue to investigate. up next, is the u.s. doing enough in the hunt for flight 370? the defense secretary chuck hagel is getting ready to meet with his malaysian counterpart. what more can he offer? and australia has certainly been bearing the brunt of the search effort. i'll speak live with australia's ambassador to the united states. he's here with me in "the situation room." ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone

officials say there's no indication the co-pilot or anyone else on the plane made any actual calls. they say even if someone had tried to dial up from the plane, just because the tower connected to the phone doesn't mean a call would have gone through. >> by the time you're flying at 300 knots, 400 knots you'll go through the cell phone areas so quickly it doesn't even have time to make a connection. >> reporter: one recent survey suggested 30% of u.s. passengers forget to turn off their phones in flight, one reason experts say the cell tower connected only to hamid's cell phone seems highly unlikely or suspicious. if you're in the air, the passengers would have had their phones turned off or on airplane mode so they would not have been transmitting. so it is certainly plausible that his could have been the only one on since the passengers would have been respecting the rule, not have their phones on. >> again, if that was true, the phone should have connected to other towers, which raises the question of whether someone turned on the phone to try to reach out for help. wolf, u.s. o

a missing malaysian airliner 370, news about the co-pilot's cell phone and the possibility that it wasay the malaysian officials have shared data with u.s. investigators including a cell tower near panang, 250 miles away from where the transponder stopped working detected the co-pilot's cell phone searching for service. there is no evidence an actual phone call was made or attempted by the co-pilot. important to emphasize there. again, sources telling us that a cell tower near panang detected the co-pilot's cell phone which indicates that cell phone was on and reaffirms the radar data that that plane did turn around. we want to

is it remotely conceivable that the co-pilot's phone was the only one transmitting and do they have a plan "b" if the search comes up empty. a lot of questions tonight. a crucial 24 hours ahead. we have all the angles on that. the passengers on a sinking south korean ferry were told stay put, don't head for the lifeboats. hundreds are missing, many of them high school students. some of whom sent messages home as the ship went under. the race to see if anyone is still alive. >>> with tanks and troops rolling, we take you to ukraine for the latest on the moves to stop them. let's start with flight 370 and the bluefin-21. the breaking news tonight, and just back from a third mission, the first full outing after two others were cut short. so tell us about this third time under the water. >> third time's a charm, anderson. that's right. is it back. it's done a complete mission, the first complete mission. the other two missions the first cut short because of a fail safe mechanism in the bluefin that told it when it got to 4500 meters down to come back up. they fixed that problem and now it

before we were told by authorities that it was the co-pilot who spoke those last words. ges things quite a bit as to who was on the radio and who was communicating in the air with air traffic control. we also know from this same source that it was five malaysian airlines pilots who were allowed to listen to the air traffic control radio transmissions to make the determination that it was the captain and not the co-pilot, as we had heard before, wolf. >> tom, what's the significance if it was either the pilot or the co-pilot who actually uttered those final words? >> wolf, everyone i've talked to has said it's really not that significant regardless, that the captain is in charge of that ship, he would make the determination, his co-pilot or first officer is flying for the first time without another chuck pilot sitting behind him. if he decided to let him make the broadcast or take it himself, we're not true that it has any significance. >> what does it say to you, tom, that it's taken the malaysian authorities so long to discover this? >> this might not be as easy as it so

and i also want to bring up the topic of the cell phone of the co-pilot, it was detected to be on. we want to talk about the significance of that, what it could tell us, what it can't tell us, et cetera. so, again, we are going to have you stick around, we have some viewer questions also like to you take about the search and the mystery. if you want to ask a question about jeff and mary, tweet them to #370 qs. don't forget to look us up on facebook. we are going to return to our coverage of the plane in a second but we want to give you a look at some of the other stories happening at this hour. >>> first up, the kansas shootings. formal hate crime charges could be filed today against frazier glenn cross. he is the 73-year-old man accused of opening fire at two jewish centers on sunday. three people were killed. two of his victims were a teenaged boy and his grandfather. their family is doing what they can to cope, minute by minute. >> just coming together, trying to cope and deal with it as best we can. this is one of those things never think's gonna happen. and you know, now we are