the urgent question before you is not one of law, but of policy. will congress applied its support at this pivotal juncture ensuring that gaddafi does not regain the upper hand against the people of libya? in closing, i ask that you take quick and decisive action to approve senate joint to20, the bipartisan resolution, to provide congressional authorization for continued operations and libya to enforce the purposes of security council resolution 1973. only in so doing, can this body confirmed that the united states is united in support of the nato alliance and the aspirations of the libyan people. thank you and i look forward to answering your questions. >> thank you very much. we appreciate the testimony. questions. >> to buy. i will reserve my time for such time as i may want to intervene with my questions. i will turn to senator lugar to start. >> one of the reasons why it is important to have this hearing and likewise debate on this issue is that throughout the middle east and throughout the world, there are a number of situations in which the united states

some of them are at the library of congress. they will all be given to the library of congress. i have a lot of planning to do. there is glacier national park. there is no where i haven't been. this is pennsylvania in the thomas country. >> what is your web site? >> carolhighsmithamerica.com. >> the 21st century project -- >> i have done alabama, and 21st century alabama. so that people can see what i am doing in alabama, also. some of these are on the web site and some are not. >> will reward you get out of this, personally? >> i am fascinated by america. and if i can leave this good earth and have left behind how beautiful that we are, for people to appreciate these places, that is all that i need. i will have accomplished everything i needed. >> will people be able to stay at home and look at these projects? >> not only that, i don't know many other places you can go. if you want a high-resolution image, you can download this from the library of congress. this is amazing. there is no ending. this is a large, large camera that takes up a lot of space but this is no problem. thi

is the end -- is congress legitimate? you have to show some sort of cost shifting and can to the cost shifting that occurs here. -- akin to the cost shifting that occurs here. >> therefore they could not do it? the cost is borne by the thannal government rather by those who actually have insurance. why is that not enough? >> the power that the congress is asserting is one they were dealing with. money comes out of one person's pocket to pay for another. whether it may qualify might be a bit more a chain of causation. >> some have rejected it as a requirement. >> not at all. i do not think they did. that was about this. >> i realize they said it was there. at the end of the day they rejected its as shown. >> because it was attenuated. they accepted cost shifting. i am having difficulty understanding why this is different. >> it will depend on the findings congress enacted with respect to the end. then we have a question about the means. you have said that congress is entitled to a substantial difference. i do think that the

>> it's an elegant dabs but not so elegant with the congress. >> that's what i mean. they could be besmirching the can bookie james. >> i'm not not ready for that question but i am ready for the tax questions, and there's no way the republicans are going to agree to a tax increase. any republican who votes to raise taxes by any amount is going to face a tea party primary challenge. this tax issue is an issue for the republicans. they will not cave on it. if the president caves on it and signs a bill without taxes, guess what, he's not going forget a chance. he's fine. republicans cannot vote for tax increases and they won't. >> what will it be? >> we're going to win. >> i think it's going to be -- what pat just said. >> a tax increase is not always a tax increase. >> why -- paying more -- >> i was a democrat controlled senate go the pat route? >> they have to. the debt ceiling -- look what the president said, everything is -- [everyone talking at once] >> the president don't want to be responsible for -- >> biden is -- >> social security. >> biden has already agreed to

regulateors more accountable to the congress? either yes or no? >> i do have concerns about interference there, and there were protections put in. for example -- >> so you wouldn't support it then? modifying your position? >> no. i think the specifics matter. for example, in the savings and loan crisis, we saw interceptions that prevented the regulators from stepping in and preventing greater collapse in that industry, and so it is a difficult balancing, but there are reasons to have protections and independence with the financial regulators because those short-term interventions with the tyranny of small decisions that create huge consequences and again, i would not want, for example, the occ to be subject to inters vention every time they tried to close down a bank. >> neither would we. >> that's what happened in the past. they've got to have the ability to do their jobs if i were to do their job, but my question to you, again, would you support efforts to make them more accountable? if they failed the american people, which mos

i am mary to the library of congress. -- i am married to the library of congress. they have the funds -- and we're joined at the hip. i want to please them. this is a place for the work to go. if i'm going to take care ofif i take good images with 30 that much years of experience, i think they're worth giving to and they think i'm worth holding hands with. way out in colors>> look at those clouds. rub. have to's got, do you wait for a day like that? >> i am just driving along. the more i am out of the more i will get shots like that. if you are driving along, that is when you see things thethis is an old red barn in alabama. is and that just fantastic thatlook at how beautiful that this is, and the green grass. obviously that is the cactus and hours a>> what kind of camera are you night. using? >> i am using several cameras. this is where the snow came down on rock creek on the trees, so i am using an park iconic camera and this is 39 mega pixels in north carolina. -- that in north carolina,this is kind of a resort area in north carolina and this is gorgeous. we kno

the library of congress. behind the scenes at the world's largest library. >> the pursuit of knowledge is that something progressives, liberals, conservatives, libertarians all want. they may disagree on how to do it and how much to spend on it, but essentially, they are all in favor of accurate information law makers can use. >> there is this connection between democracy and reading and knowledge that predates the library of congress. it is a manifestation of the earlier idea. >> they were entirely created in the age of print. >> the free availability of information. it is something to be celebrated. i think that comes through very dramatically in the building. >> it started as a small space in the capitol where congressmen could get information. it has grown to eight separate facilities, including the madison building, and the adams building, the campus for audiovisual conservation in culpeper, virginia. the true home is the jefferson building. where there were once only books, the library of congress featur

left to veto it and force the congress to go back to work. in fact, with the debt ceiling increase, the president can veto it at sunset on august 1st with default looming at midnight, and the congress will still have time to pass a clean debt ceiling bill at the last minute in order to avoid default. something the congress knows how to do and has done many, many times in the past at the last minute. in fact, it's been traditional to wait until the very last minute to try to pass debt ceiling increases because as everyone used to understand in the congress, the debt ceiling increase is what they used to call a must pass bill. no one can tamper with it. they can vote against it as long as, and you heard senator durbin explain this on this show the other night, you can vote against it, as long as, as durbin put it, you're looking over your shoulder and making sure they have enough votes to pass it. the congress has frequently taken up the debt ceiling at the last minute. the night before default would hit, specifically in order to force members t

for many years, the west front of the capital was the library of congress. >> by 1814, the library of congress held about 3000 volumes. most of which were destroyed. >> in 1814, british troops marched on maryland avenue and they burned down the capitol building. >> thomas jefferson read about it in the newspaper. he offered to sell the library -- to sell to the library his own book collection. >> it turned out that he needed the money at the time. he was a very eclectic collector. he believed that you had to study philosophy, foreign languages, he had a huge number of books that were poetry and english literature. >> it was very flattering to congress. if you were going to govern this new country, you need to have books on all subjects. >> that created some controversy in the house of representatives. should we have books in foreign languages? spending the money on? jefferson himself. part of it was personal. there were some people who just would not vote for it because it came from jefferson. >> in the end, the house voted 71-61 to buy his library. 6487 volumes or just under $24,000.

and the wars of iraq an afghanistan. congress last came together and raised the debt ceiling in february of 2010. and it dizz so -- it did so with the idea that we were working together. we understand that we're at a $14-plus trillion. there's no one who is happy with a growing debt. but many economists will tell you that economists will tell you that a deficit is sometimes important to take care of a country's people. who knows what is going on in japan right now because they need to take care of their people. they need to ensure that those who are impacted by the sunesune and earthquake and knew -- by the tsunami and the earthquake and the nuclear explosion, they need to take care of the sick people and the hurt people. but our country is not like portugal and greece. economists -- an economist we listened to two weeks ago said on the record that this country is -- that this nation is not broke. let me say it again, americans. don't be intimidated and frightened to believe that america is broke. we can solve this problem. the w

the factors the congress. culture stooge drug running costs the. prompts these numbers. then the lizard issue brings the beast as the british since the. american hostage is the court which is we should. lose since he moves. on this is fair nationally he once believed in the foreign leaders our constitution. this will challenge the american people and this gingrich agrees with our president thomas jefferson and frankly most of the other founders of this country let's break it down first newt's assertion that the congress can pass laws that limit the powers and the behavior of the supreme court constitution in section two of article three which establishes that the judiciary does give the congress the power to define and limit what the supreme court and it cannot do here's the exact language and supreme court shall have apologized diction both as to law and fact with such exceptions and under such regulations as the congress shall make yes that's what the constitution says in plain black and white if congress disagrees with for example the citizens united decision or the b

bartlett, who servedt in the continental congress. but the past for their review can be a long and surprising review. >> we get collections from donors, very often they are stored in attics or basements or even barnes. >> in this room there are delivered and put out on tables or collections. if they are not born here, there midwifed year and eventually available to the reading public. >> there have been some odd revolvers andred, revival pieces of wedding cake and all kinds of things where people clear out their filing cabinets, closets. >> for example, the papers of air force general bernard, responsible for the development of the intercontinental ballistic missile, or icbm. >> he would note on airplane napkins, and then i guess he needed more paper because he used to airsickness bags to continue his notes. these are the kind of odd things we deal with in the course of processing. >> it can be like looking for a needle in a haystack, not saving it for what is in your room, but protecting and processing the items to be saved in a libra

this is the responsibility of congress. in the end, the congress must pass this. it is their responsibility to extend the debt ceiling. so my sense is that, in the end, they will act. we may have a few stressful days coming up, and stressful for the markets of the world and the american people. but in the end, there's no question in my mind the government of america will not default. >> schieffer: if nothing else works and the republicans send a last-ditch emergency raising of the debt ceiling and nothing else, would the president sign that? >> see, bob, there should be a bipartisan agreement. the democrats, harry reid, has said that what the speaker has spoken about so far will not pass the senate. so they must sit down and work out a compromise. it is not "my way or the highway;" this is not the way we run a government that divided. we should prove to the american people it's not dysfunctional. >> schieffer: mr. daly, thank you so much. >> thank you, bob. >> schieffer: we taped that about a half hour ago. now, we'll get the republican take on this stand-off with

>> next, the c-span documentary, "the library of congress." and at 11:00 p.m., q&a with erik larsen, author of "in the garden of the beast." and now, c-span's 5 -- documentary, "the library of congress." behind-the-scenes of the world's largest library. >> the pursuit of knowledge is something that all parties want to agree on. essentially, they are all in favor of accurate information that lawmakers can use. connections this t between knowledge and reading. the library of congress turned out to be a menace to take -- manifestation of that. the cracks it -- >> it was entirely created in the library -- in the age of print. democracy is something to be celebrated. i.t. that comes through very dramatically -- i think that comes through very directly in the building. >> it started in the congress could get information. it has grown to a -- eight separate facilities. but it's true home is this, the jefferson building. and where there were once only books, the library of congress today features on the one-of-a- kind presidential papers, photos, music

it is taking them off the doll. congressis trying sang, at this point you cannot afford the individual mandate. we're going to put you on the state one. again that is based on the assumption that there is universal coverage that tries down the insurance clause. they subsidize people for these health care exchanges. that number was set on the assumption that the health care costs would be driven down by conscripting young people to engage to their detriment which were dry everyone else -- >> healthy people can still buy catastrophic coverage. >> i do not think -- i still think of a 31-year-old as young. they cannot buy a catastrophic insurance. what they call catastrophic is not anyone's normal idea of a catastrophic coverage. you have to have the health benefits of the savings act. there needs to be a number of benefits. the deductible includes the three primary physician visits per year. getting hit by lightning in a serious disease, what most people think of catastrophic. that is not an option available. that is part of th

very bad utterly depressing jobs numbers will ask why washington refuses to take any of the blame and while congress debates cutting your programs we're going to tell you about the hefty new paycheck at the pentagon is about to get also say goodbye to nasa shuttle program and figure out what could be next for space exploration but first let's take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. i. guess is going to take out let's just say that it's a foreign visitor of great importance to america's diplomatic relations with the world a visitor that might affect the lives of americans the security of this country and our economic future just kidding it's wills and kate. first for the duchess of cambridge to visit the united states for the very first time following a whirlwind tour through canada with the release this is just hours away yet of course the. royals now head to los angeles later today they're going to be doing a weekend visit to prince william and kate have a jam packed weekend planned in california during their first visit to the united states since getting married back in april. tha

you're talking about tax reform that would all be in one package, the congress would then vote on it up or down. >> yes. >> schieffer: and that's how this would work. >> the committee would have a broad look at the most serious problems, the ones that have been the most intractable, the ones most difficult to pass, put together a package in a thoughtful way, and i believe all four of the leaders will appoint individuals to this joint committee that are serious about dealing with the nation's biggest problems. we're not talking about kicking the can down the road. we're talking about this calendar year before the year is out, congress would be voting on this recommendation. >> but it would, if the congress... this committee in its wisdom decided to include some tax increases in that package, they would have the authority to do that. >> the committee has a broad mandate to look at the entire spectrum of concerns and certainly tax reform is something both democrats and republicans think is long overdue. >> schieffer: but they would have the authority to say eliminate a deduction on say p

i'm sorry, before the congress. senator rockefeller and senator hutchinson which has now been introduced on the house side by a couple of house democratics and now the republicans have put out the broad outline of their spectrum auction bill. do you lean towards one or the other? one approach or the other? >> well, again, congress tells me what to do. i don't say that enough times. i don't tell them what to do. what i've said on the topic, should there be incentive auctions, some sort of provision to give broadcasters an incentive to relinquish their spectrum, it should be voluntary. is going to be like the digital tv transition all over again. there will be broadcasters who won't participate in the auction but who will occur cost. we want to make sure unless congress is changing it's priority and no longer believe in free over-the-air broadcasting, which i don't believe is the case, we need to take it into account. having said that, we need more spectrum in the marketplace. beyond that, i'll let congress fill in the

it is a prerogative of the future congress. if the country wants to have 30% or 5%, that is what we elect congress for. requiring a majority for tax increases -- that is what we do. you might as well make it a two-thirds majority for spending cuts. you will have a judge balancing the budget because congress will not be able to do it. many of us in this body have come to support a balanced budget amendment, recognizing it needs 2/3. how is it in line with our democratic republic expressed in the constitution to say the american people can elect a congress -- why is that the power you want to take away from the people of this country? >> we are not trying to take power away. we are trying to empower. i see this as something done at the state level. i think this is something people are demanding. i think this is in powering. >> the people elect a congress that wants to spend 24% of gdp. >> what we are doing right now -- >> if there is a congress that wants 24%, that is probably what it should be. >> that has not worked. that is why

congress has the power here. congress makes the laws. congress controls the purse. whatever fiscal path congress instructs the president to embark on, he must faithfully execute that instruction from congress. but congress can't put the president in the untenable position of having to fail in the faithful execution of one set of laws in order to faithfully execute another. and that's exactly where it seems to me we put the president if we fail to lift the debt ceiling. the damage to the country from such a failure would be profound. at least 40 cents of every federal dollar would suddenly stop flowing into the economy. considering what would have to be done with the remaining 60 cents, it's not very likely that the federal regulatory process would keep running. that means every job in the country depending on a federal permit or federal approval or a federal grant or a federal contract would likely grind to a halt. and there would be a jump in interest rates that would hit federal, state, municipal, corporate and family budgets. a lot of other stuff might also go wro

"the congress that does the least is the best congress," according to one of our viewers. lot more of your calls on upper -- the 112th congress according to one piece, one of the least productive. barack obama called on congress. >> i am very amused when i hear comments that the president needs to show more leadership. i have been here. i said we have to get this done. there is no point in procrastinating or putting it off. we have to get this done. if, by the end of this week, we have not seen substantial progress, we're going to start having to cancel things and stay here until we get it done. leaders, at a certain point, rise to the occasion. leaders are going to lead. host: that was from the national republican senatorial committee. what is your take on the current congress? caller: my take is that, from watching the media, i find that there is not too many politicians that think holistic thistly -- holistically. most of the difference you see -- they are extreme positions. it is kind of like senate he requires a person to look at things -- sanity requires a person to l

the congress would have the opportunity to vote up or down and then move on. the president said i'll accept that responsibility. but to go through another debt ceiling vote to get further dollars in the spring of '13 would continue this uncertainty in our economy, and it affects the average person. >> and i want to get to that in just a minute, but let me just be clear on this. the president will not sign a plan that's basically two parts -- short-term extension and then maybe a separate process for dealing with the bigger issues? >> if the process has the opportunity to deal with the issues and has certainty that the debt ceiling will not be used again in the political year, and we don't have a situation as we've had with this one, where washington was unable to function and the world has watched, the american people have gotten nervous, you've got markets around the world ready to react. it's time to get some certainty in the system. >> so -- >> and whatever deal the congress comes up with, the president said it must give us certainty to 2013. we can fight,

>> next, the documentary "the library of congress." then former louisiana governor buddy roemer announces his candidacy for president. after that, the state of u.s. national parks. now, the feature documentary, "the library of congress," behind the scenes in the world's largest library. ♪ >> the pursuit of knowledge is something progressives, liberals and conservatives, and libertarian's all agree on. they may disagree on how to do it and how much to spend on it, but essentially they are all in favor of accurate information that lawmakers can use. there is a connection between reading and democracy. >> our institutions were entirely created in the age of print. >> the work in the mind, the search for an formation, the free availability of information in a democracy must be celebrated. i think that comes through very dramatically in the building. >> it started as a small space in the capital where congressman could get in permission. it has grown to eight separate facilities, including the madison building and the atoms building -- adams

the constitution. that's what we shall do today. we shall rescue this congress from the ig no, ma'amny -- the ignominy of having this government assume we have no right in this government. this is our moment to stand up, democrats and republicans alike. i'm proud to wash with mr. amash to craft this bipartisan amash-kucinich amendment. this is our moment, members. let's not lose this opportunity to stand up and speak out on paff of the united states constitution, on maff of the separation of powers, on maff of the co-equality of our house of representatives and the congress of the united states. let's show the founders and the -- and the spirit of the founders is always with us in this place, let's demonstrate that we remember where we came from when this constitution was set forth. let's demonstrate where we stand up. i yield back. the chair: for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? >> mr. speaker, i move to strike the last word. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. >> mr. speaker, for more than three months now, our nation

and they gave that power to the congress of the united states. and only congress can declare war. not the president. but this is the president's war. and the president, in my opinion, is in violation of the constitution. he has led america to our third war. whether or not the war powers resolution is constitutional or not, we can debate that. but he's in violation of it too because we're still engaged in war, whether you call it hostilities or not, some say it's not hostile. you being one of the recipients of those cruise missiles in libya, you might think that's a hostile environment toward you. but this country is spending money on a third war and it is unconstitutional. our ancestors had comments about the leader, the king leading us into war. the writer of the constitution, when it wrote a letter to thomas jefferson, he said the constitution supposes what history and government have always demonstrated. that is the executive branch most interested in war and most prone it to. it is with study care vested this question in this country of war in the legislative body. the first co

congress gave us both lofty and practical goals. among the lofty goals, congress directed us to update -- update additional amendments to the knowledge of human behavior as it relates to the criminal justice process. practical goals included directions to the commission to examine the capacity of prison facilities women promulgate guideline amendments. in fact, congress enacted us to formulate the gadflies -- guidelines. we are now at over 35% overcapacity in our federal prisons. congress has given the commission very clear direction. we must consider retroactive application of the guideline reducing amendment as a commissioner jackson pointed out, and part of that consideration -- we must take into account the purposes of sentencing set out in the sentencing reform act and our other statutory responsibilities, but lofty and practical. among the purposes of sentencing that we must try to achieve our fairness, impartiality, and avoiding sentencing disparities. to my mind, retroactive application on parts a and b help achieve this purpose is. i

the 112th congress is on pace to be one of the least-productive congresses in more than 60 years. joining me now, the democratic assistant leader in the house, congressman jim clyburn of south carolina, thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you so much for having me. >> president announced congressman pelosi will be in attendance. what do you think will take to get the deal done, seems to me the impasse has been done for three months and nothing has budged to get it done. >> well, i think a lot has been done. the fact of the matter is i am a member of the biden group. i guess we still exist. we, i believe, 85% there. we were about to have our very last meeting, or next to the last meeting, when eric cantor decided he would no longer participate. we did a lot. i'm very proud of what we've done, and i think the vice president will tell you that we are about 85% to where we needed to be, and i think that the president now, working with the leaders of both houses, hopefully nancy pelosi on the house side and mr. boehner, the speaker of the house, and maybe the minority majority le

to the congress, back to the democratic plans and to bash the republicans. and john boehner was trying to do just the opposite. and to have that happen on the eve, you know. >> let me ask you. did anybody -- >> better for the country. >> what? >> let me finish the thought. it is good politics in the traditional sense, but in terms of getting the national answer in the next eight days, i think it left us farther away from getting an answer. it will further divide the country. >> i was going to ask you, david, whether anybody benefited from the speeches tonight. has anyone come away better than they did half an hour ago? >> i think probably each fellow came off better in its base. i think the country is so tired of political posturing and people really want leadership that finds answers and get us off the edge of the cliff. >> what was interesting also, the debate we were having in washington today seems to have moved beyond the tax increases. at least in the short term. nobody today is talking about tax increases except barack obama who still talked about tha

, the new congress could simply say we refuse to pay those bills. his would cause massive uncertainty in the financial market, drive interest rates up and cloud the entire legislative process of the u.s. congress. that is wrong and must not happen. mr. president -- madam president, i understand that there are those who disagree with this option, and i respect that. but i think we have an obligation to our senior citizens and our veterans to say, yes, you are going to get the social security checks and the other benefits that you have been promised. we have an obligation to our children and to the sick that, yes, you are going to get the medicare and medicaid benefits that you have been promised. and, yes, incredibly, we have an obligation to the men and women in our armed forces who are putting their lives on the line. and we have an obligation to them to make sure that they get paid. so, madam president, if republican recalcitrants prevents us from reaching an agreement, then the president of the united states must do what is best for our people and

those have all but ceased to exist in the congress. gwen: i want to follow up with on this, david, the degree of the underlying weakness in the economy, which we saw today with the gross domestic product numbers, whether that's also driving a lot of the discontent. >> i think it's driving a lot of the discontent in the people at large. you cannot overdo how bad these numbers were. the economy grew only .4% in the first quarter, 1.3% in the second quarter. at that rate, unemployment will rise, not fall, and we already have very high unemployment. my sense is there's a lot of angst out there among the public about their jobs, their wages, their kids jobs, the value of their house and that's translating into anger at everybody that some of the members of congress are reflecting. but i've been stunned, really, by how immune members of congress seem to be to the possibility that they are actually actively making a bad economy worse with these charades on capitol hill. >> one of the things i think in terms of the debt and the economy and how

the debt ceiling spike happens to be a political football, and generally the congress goes along. whichever party is in power takes the hit. but people now see on both sides there is an opportunity here to get on top of the crisis we have in this country, and that's a good thing. >> hold on, pat. the question is whether or not obama speaks out of both sides of his mouth. you heard what mort read, and you hear what he's saying now. you heard what he's saying now. what do you think of the -- at least the verbal inconsistency? >> i think he came into office wanting to do a budget deal at some point, but he was prevented from doing so by the economic crisis, and now i think he's getting back to what he really always wanted to do. so i think he's -- it sounds like he's talk out of both sides of his mouth, but i think he's simply going with changing circumstances. >> is there anything wrong with that? isn't that what a politician is supposed to do, respect the conditions of the times? >> absolutely right. >> the reality, john -- >> what's the rap against obama? >> you're right, he's nixo

presidential field the new super congress here to save the day film profesor detweiler from cover dynasty or for a spoiler about have to america and tonight i'm going to do some drugs live right here in studio. here's a clue this isn't the challenge of the cultural definition of drugs but rather the f.d.a. . we would want to do want to think bad for our health here it i don't. ladies and gentlemen welcome to adam versus the man today is minus nine days of the fall day and the calamity of august third is nearly upon us we have a new animation as promised to bring in the week let's play that. with the debt ceiling deadline growing perilously close global markets are bracing for the unthinkable i just want to i believe we're going to blow your brains out. what's really there you know what i'm getting kind of tired of the stories who are you it's been how long we've been doing this now to want to win a half weeks and we're still well i'd always say is the minus nine days of the fall day and that's the actual the fall day this is where we get things right in the mainstream gets it wrong of cou