what we're finding, what we're hearing is that the ceo, the cxo, the executive level, time is increasingly taken up defending threats of litigation. so every company's getting letters all the time, and they're extortion letters. sadly, it's legalized extortion. and it's not good for the competitiveness of the united states. so even those that are patent owners, and almost all my members are at tent ownsers of some type, they say we're getting to the point where we have to do something. this is the strongest, most passionate issue that i represent our members on, and this is equivalent to where card check was four years ago. >> you mention bed the demand letter issue which i think is a particularly interesting one given that there were a lot of members of the house that wanted to see sort of stronger reform provisions on demand letters put into the goodlatte bill. i guess we'll see sort of where the senate goes on that aspect. but i think one of the concerns that seem have with that sort of lahr part of the -- particular part of the patent reform debate is the first amendment concern. to wh