the data has been collected. it is not that the city has been trying to figure out, on its own, with the numbers are, but it is data that came directly from the restaurant's come directly from the businesses that are covered. one thing is clear, we have two examples. we have the health reimbursement account example, which is the liberal we're trying to close. then we have the example of what is happening with health the san francisco, in terms of the same specific accounts that apply to the same population. in terms of mra's. the same account, the same population. you see the difference in terms of usage. in help the san francisco, the usages 55%. with respect to the reimbursement accounts, the median is 50%. you know, just on the data we have available that when you have none of the restrictions that the business community is opposing on these accounts, the people are more than three times more likely to use the account. i do not understand why there is a need to wait when the evidence is clear that the problem i

i wonder if you could respond to the other data that seems to neutralize the main data you used to say that was necessary. >> you are correct. this is new information that was not presented at the planning commission hearing. it was provided just last week. it is more your purview to evaluate the credibility of that, versus horizon. it was not at the commission hearing. president chiu: why don't we now hear from a representative from the project sponsor? you will have up to 10 minutes for your presentation. >> i will be using the light board. i am outside counsel for verizon wireless. it is a pleasure to appear before you. i have been representing horizon for 20 years. i was part of the preparation of the guidelines in 1996. there was no adverse industry input or attempt to skew the document, which was primarily driven by important and historic figures in san francisco. i appreciate the fact that the neighborhood has brought up most of our exhibits already. we respect their opinions and concerns about wireless service. wireless service has become ubiquitous. there are more cellular sub

the data centers move to where power gets generated. what is the next hardest thing to move? big data. did it is still really hard to move, even though we have lots of wavelets. that says that the application moves to the data is. if you think about facebook and google and all those folks, they build data center's right were the power is generated. typically near hydro plants and so on. what you find is that more and more applications will move to where the data is. moving those big chunks of data is very difficult. in terms of enterprises in the cloud, there is certainly no reason to suspect that the systems used by cloud vendors like amazon are not capable of geographic replication and redundancy. it is absolutely the case that someone like netflix, for example, could survive an outage of two simultaneous amazon did a centers through geographic redundancy and so on. this stuff exists, and the technology exists within the cloud providers to make sure that once your data gets there, it is not going away. it is just not a cloud provider solution. most enterprises will have thin

this data was taken in the last couple of weeks of august. supervisor mar: when was the data taken? i think somebody said it was the last week of august. when was it taken? >> during the last two weeks of august, during the busy hour, which for us is between 5:00 and 6:00 in the evening. dropped calls are mainly due to people either driving out of coverage areas, or in this case we are looking at ineffective attempts. that is people's attempts to get on to the system, not dropped calls. these numbers are based on ineffective attempts, people trying to get a line and unable to get into the system. these numbers are taken right off our switches. they are right there. you might want to repeat your second part. you cannot know if there is interference without a sticking test equipment and determining that, but we normally test drive these areas and interference shows up in our test drives. we have not had a recent test drives in this part of san francisco. anything else? president chiu: colleagues, any additional questions? thank you very much. >> if i may add, we are willing to provide

of the data. third is strong trusted identity system that enables the right people to have the right access at the right time is vital to securing the cloud. many of the data breaches today find their root cause in week identity and access management control. the move to the cloud does not create new risks. claude consumers should ask who has access to what what can they do with the information they obtained and what did they do with that information? online banking services provide an example of transactions between different cloud services can be accomplished using strong identity management. most of us know that online transactions have different risks and security requirements based on that risk. accessing your account balance required level of authentication while transferring funds may require a higher degree of security. if you authorize your bank to pay a bill your bank may need to access the bill payment service on your behalf. this type of transaction requires they have transparent securi

about the relationship between what we and data in the business call big data and how to be responsible stewards of big data. that information becomes available in real time in ways that are machine readable and accessible to auld. how can we ensure that data not only flows but is used responsibly and with perspective of stewardship in mind? that is interesting at the freedom forum because in the realm of activism in the political space that is a great crucible to see tension between how to activate voters and consumers and get people to take action but do so in a way that is not deceptive or misrepresents information. there is a perception that can be a real challenge. and i think an example crystallized to me with the discussion of onstar in the last week. we saw after users which stopped using the onstar system that onstar would collect data unless consumers turned it off and there was a public outcry in the papers, immediate fire storm of controversy. senator schumer sent a letter and the company changed, turned off the functionality. something really important of lost in that debat

it specifies a list of controls that talk about where the data we sides. who is managing it and know how it is backed up. by using the public called proprietors they also certify themselves through the gsa federal grant to be authorized for use. the government picks up the benefit of the cloud computing provider and the security experience as well as the list of controls that they have been accrediting the systems for the last decade. it's not going to be perfect and there will be issues. we have to recognize there is a benefit in using the providers because they also have a very visible public presence and they have a lot of experience in this space. >> mr. curran one of the areas of your testimony is about merging of threats to the same security in the cloud computing. what are some of those emerging threats, and are we thinking about things that haven't happened yet? >> we actually are. i spoke about emerging threats and also devolving the nature of the internet to secure those threats. there are a number of initiatives the federal government had launche

and if the district is tracking that data, where are the plans to all at the data? i know we don't want to be criminalizing our students. >> i think by law, we have to. maybe we can get the information to you. commissioner wynns: i just want to say, i know that i have the ability to phone somebody and ask them, but it turned out that i had a conflict. i was planning to try to come and i noticed on the web site that it wasn't on there. >> it was. >> it wasn't. if we can check or be more careful about that, i would appreciate it. i appreciate hearing about the meeting, it is very important for us to have organized district supported ways for people to go more in depth into the data. for instruction and achievement issues, i appreciate you coming here and reporting to us regularly. it is really great. >> i read through the report, thank you for coming. i just want to commend them for reaching out to other organizations. it doesn't take a lot, but the representation is key because even though there are other parent bodies, they don't disseminate that information. it may

currently, the data is conflicting. more important, the evidence is lacking. based on these premises, verizon should not be granted a permit at this time. please vote to deny them the permit. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker. >> good afternoon supervisors. i am with the russian hill community association. i am here to lend my support. i would like to speak about one reason that the proposed for this facility is neither desirable or compatible and compatible with a hospital setting and this is largely a residential community. warless facility's present a lecture for fire hazards that should require extreme caution in deciding where they should be located. this includes photos of wireless facilities that were set on fire during routine maintenance visits. they were taken by media outlets, many because of the spectacular nature of these images presented by these cellphone tower is literally going up in flames. they still point to find the essential fact of any commercial wireless facilities. this is industrial for in nature and utilize is of much of the comp

the cio knows the impact of that data and its disclosure, knows the impact of that data and it compromise or the unavailability of the system. and so at the end of the day the goal is to make sure that cio has enough information to make sure that they can make a

>> actually, i think it is important that we give you the data. again, i would respectfully disagree that we do save not only time, but we balance the line and run the system more efficiently and effectively. again, i know we have had this discussion, but in our system, the way it is configured, what options we have, switchbacks -- to not do them, i think, would have deleterious effects on the on-time performance and the management of the system. i have had this discussion with several people. we're certainly open to other alternatives, if somebody has a suggestion, we will certainly look at it. but what we do right now, virtually every -- after every rush hour, is make adjustments to put the service and the system back in balance if we have delays. supervisor chu: i appreciate that. i think it is worthwhile to look into. i do have some reservations because i know that even when we had this conversation a year ago, we were asking about the adherence to the five-minute policy. so i really wanted to see the information in the presentation today. i un

currently, the data is conflicting. more important, the evidence is lacking. based on these premises, verizon should not be granted a permit at this time. please vote to deny them the permit. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker. >> good afternoon supervisors. i am with the russian hill community association. i am here to lend my support. i would like to speak about one reason that the proposed for this facility is neither desirable or compatible and

he got the data and used it for junk mailg. somebody got call. that is ultimately the most important thing for us, evan. there's consequences to the actions. they are a successful company that provides market services for american businesses. it provides employment screening services for american businesses. >> when 9/11 hit they hired wesley clark to go to the government to sell their services to the government. that's an example of this wall crumbling. >> we have no time for this but give me an examine. medical record keeping. if you are in australia and you fall down and nobody knows -- you keel over and nobody knows what your record is, they don't have to call your wife or children to find out where it is and on and on. while you pass out they press a button with what they find in your wallet and they can find your medical information. it's great. >> i think medical information when fair information practices are applied to it could benefit consumers. >> do the pluses outweigh the minuses? >> it depends. good uses of information are good and b

i found the data i have seen, i believe we're doing that fairly well. but to the extent that we're still getting complaints, that is an area of concern. supervisor avalos: is it possible to switchback only when there is a vehicle right there? >> we would have to look at the data and see what five minutes would mean vs three. i do not know off-hand. but i think it would be a good policy and good direction. to get led off a train and have to wait even five minutes seems like a lot and feels like a lot when it happens to you. >> then there's the discussion of the balance and the balance for the people further from downtown. the balance is to make it balance for people getting from the central part of the city versus people who live by further parts of this city. because it is not balanced. >> when john said balance, it generally balancing is basing the train on the line. we are trying to move the resources to where there are the most people. as an example, this morning i got on and outbound n that came about three minutes after the previous outbound n. trai

when questions are posed on the data, it is very challenging. that is where the coordinated case management system is in dire need of support. actually able to attract clients through systems. that does not include the criminal-justice system. the chief, and her wonderful work, we have several partnerships under way. given that the realignment of the population that we often end up serving in some capacity, through these coordinated case management systems, it provides a base line for how you begin to expand what we have in the general hospital and health department to other systems. we do have some partnerships with the criminal justice system that are very well developed and we can build on our clinical case management system. we have better access to that. these clients are very involved and in order to better serve them, we have to have client information as well as health information. we are hoping to build on the partnership with the chief. supervisor mirkarimi: i would really encourage that. encourage the department of public health on tha

so i abrogated all of the data. anybody want to guess? out of 40 of the largest companies in the world, how many of the were using one or more of these -- there was about seven different applications, all delivered out of clout, -- cloud. that's over. best guess, not over. 38 out of 40. of the largest companies in the world. using one or more of these. when we debate the question of will corporations use the cloud, i would say they already have. we clearly are still in the early adoption days. i rattle off some very interesting stories right now of companies you know right now who are using lots of interesting computing and storage cloud services as well. i just wanted to get people to start to think. companies are moving this way. there is a bay area company -- i will not name names, but the cfo walk into the cio's office and said, "no more capital expenditure." the reason why i talk about this as a business model is -- and, by the way, i would be happy to send any of you guys a copy of this book. or if you want epub versions, we can do t

so i think the data is going to be a real plus for us. i was wondering that hopefully the step will keep us informed. it starts in october. within a couple of months of the new year, we will start being able to look at that data. >> i would also like to commend both acting director sweeney and the staff that basically made this happen. it has been far too long that it took, but at the same time we are here now. the category of the metrics this provides is on the staff and technology that brings us up to speed. it will help with the work flow. it is good for the public and staff. that, the challenge will be the acceptance of staff and the public on certain sectors. but i think let us give it the due process and do time to see if it does work. also, hoping to navigate the coordination of multiple departments is point to be huge. also, the metric of tracking it all the way through is going to be good. but we need some tweaking that will happen along the way. one of those i see it right off the bat is the multiple permits, especially on the ca

the cloud providers provides data to another data center. need a contingency planning of one level higher up. you need to worry about the case where the club provided themselves is no longer able to provide the service securely any need to move not to another one of their data centers but to an entirely different provider purity might need to do that on rapid notice. -- you might need to do that on a rapid notice. so the migration is not just a question of cost or been able to get their data back. it is the security control. it is an inherent function that needs to be provided so that if a club provider -- cloud provider is compromise, the ability to migrate is not a question we are asking. it is known to be able to move up to another provider in days or hours. finally, the internet itself is not static. it is changing rapidly. there are security protocols to secure a system an ip version 6, that need to be considered. we need to make sure these are part of the profile so that we do not build on the internet while the internet is changing ou

since the advent of data centers. many companies enter into the market. it is not a trivial market to enter. the cost of building these things, by the way, is $1,000 per square foot, which is expensive even by california standards. cost of power dominates this. this has been an interesting space for a variety of reasons, and i will leave it

one, i will provide you the data on the the adherents of the train behind it. second is to reemphasize, with our staff, the operators making the announcement. and there is to take advantage of whatever technology we have to get information to people. if we're having a particular, you know, using it in the platform. the fourth thing, and this is something that our new director is emphasizing and has pushed for us to move faster across the board on, is getting delay information up on the website. we started a program now what twitter to get real-time information to people. so one of the things that we all believe is that in a system like ours, there will be daily challenges, given the nature of the system. but to the extent we can manage through them, part of it has to be the information to the public. this is something that you as a body had been very consistent in demanding that we do it, and we're doing our best to improve in all these areas. just a quick overview of some of the things that we're doing on a regular basis. we have talked about the line manageme

beth will discuss the commercial data broker industry and unrestricted access to the public data they are selling. next we will hear from chris, the legislative and policy council for technology and privacy issues for the american civil liberties union. chris will outline how law enforcement and government agencies are using data brokers to gather information about individuals as an end run-around the first amendment. the panel's presentation will close with the perspective from the u.s. senate commerce committee which will be provided by christian fields, senior counsel with the u.s. senate committee on commerce, science and transportation. thank you for joining us for this discussion. thank you. >> thanks, lillie i want to thank jonathan and that tracking on the internet is not anonymous. that your information can be found out and also that companies -- when they share certain key pieces of information about you, such as your date of birth, your gender and your zip code, these pieces of information, while anonymous can be put together to reidentify you. and i think we really have to

including in your packet is the data sheet for the kind of batteries used at these sites in san francisco. fire and explosion hazard data. unusual fire hazards. hydrogen and oxygen gases are produced during normal battery operation. this supports combustion. these gases into the air through the vent. to avoid a chance of fire or explosion, keep sources of ignition away from the batteries. also are operating instructions , from another manufacturer of backup batteries. these contain similar safety warnings that continued does continue safety warnings. this is not the type of equipment that we desire in our neighborhood. please vote to deny the permit for this location this week. thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i would like to talk briefly about one fundamental fact about all telephone networks during times of natural disasters and others emergencies. let me give a simple example. if everyone in san francisco with a traditional landline phone picked up the receiver at the same time to make a call, the network would be overloaded and there would not be enough dialtone to get aroun

this is the fbi's version of data mining, finding links the old-fashioned way.h, yeah, by hand and by luck. here we go, herbert quilty, service tech for vertech wireless. two years ago, pled guilty to selling stolen cell phones, served three months in county gail. what's his link to the insurance company? same time as quilty was in jail, a guy named thomas maynard was serving weekends on a dui conviction, maynard was a supervisor at btl underwriters. how did roley put it? "one dresses better than my lawyer, right. and one is a total geek." freeze! hands behind your head! down on your knees! down! herbert quilty, you're under arrest for murder. i had that wine at morton's last week. fbi! get on the ground! on your knees! down! on your knees! hands behind your back, maynard! you're working with some nasty dudes, maynard. where'd you meet guys like that? weekend lockup seems a bit tame for stone killers. no evidence connects me to any crimes. can't control these guys, can you? thought you were getting into the robbery business. switched the game on you, didn't they

with a fully charged phone with updated software, the data collected offered an objective picture of voice and data service in the vicinity of the avenue. a summary of our testing methodology and details from the data results are included in exhibit a of your material packets. the term fast was based on verizon standards, stated on there website. additionally, the application to plan and does not include meaningful statistical evidence to back up the claim for dropped and blocked customer calls in the neighborhood. for example, of verizon claims as many as 50 failures per hour, but there is no explanation of how many calls when through during the same time. the application also does not explain the cost of dropped calls. how many problems are there that adding new antennas will not resolve, like customers using cell phones with a gun charge batteries? -- with uncharged batteries? exhibit b in your packets details all the information verizon must provide to prove it has a problem with capacity among adjoining cell phone sites. unless verizon is willing to present this information, the

>> actually, i think it is important that we give you the data. again, i would respectfully disagree that we do save not only time, but we balance the line and run the system more efficiently and effectively. again, i know we have had this discussion, but in our system, the way it is configured, what options we have, switchbacks -- to not do them, i think, would have deleterious effects on the on-time performance and the management of the system. i have had this discussion with several people. we're certainly open to other alternatives, if somebody has a suggestion, we will certainly look at it. but what we do right