the debate? >> i felt donald trump when the debate. w in terms of comfort with donald trump and his chances? >> i think most republican leaders that i've spoken to believe that hillary clinton have an edge. she will probably win. right now, the wind will not be so decisive that it will do a lot of damage on the ballot. that is anecdotal. that is what i've heard from -- >> 95% of republicans are for donald trump. in pennsylvania, 71% of pennsylvania republicans are behind on a drum. in just one week, 85% are now behind him. that is just a 14 -- that is a 14% swing in just one week. 70% are saying that things are on the wrong track. if we are talking about the message, it might be powerful. if he does to more debates were basically his temperament gets in the way and he does not appear qualified, this thing is going to snowball in her direction. if you bounces back -- if he , if we are actually talking about any of his points, it would help donald trump. >> we could be talking about trade. , there are at say snowball of stories coming out

the great donald trump, everybody. >> the great donald trump. that was the great donald trump you heard laughing in the background at his words of wisdom to howard stern. vagina is expensive. that is what donald trump had to say on his wedding day. his second wedding day. that was the love poetry rry t was going through his mind on his second wedding day, vagina is expensive. that's all he saw when he looked at his wives, his first wife, his second wife. that's all he saw. he didn't see a person. he didn't see a woman. he didn't see a person of complexity and interest. he just saw a body part. this should come as no surprise to anyone who's been observing donald trump from any distance throughout his public life and should certainly come as no surprise to anyone who's been following the presidential campaign, even if you just started following the presidential campaign this week. one common belief of the political media that i do not share is that a political campaign will always reveal the character of a candidate. i wish that were true, but i d

and author of the donald trump biography, "the truth about donald trump." a certain point, donald trump turned against you after giving you this cooperation. eventually sued you over the book, which he lost that suit. but there we see the heroine moment. he sees his name in the paper for baseball. >> you got that right. this is the thing that is his dependency. he defines himself by what he sees reflected in the media. and i mean, who remembers the little league score that showed down getting a couple hits but donald trump? it's a pro found illustration of the way he thinks. >> i think maybe something i share with donald trump. the first time my name was in the newspaper was for baseball, but that's the most i could say. i couldn't tell you what the words are. >> you don't go around saying you are the best player in new york state. and this is in a high school year that had all-stars, but he was the best player. >> let's listen to what he said about, what he said to you about what he thinks it takes to be a great politician. >> to be a good politician, you

donald trump. if you need to run with donald trump, run with donald trump. but what thepeaker said very clearly, that he will not defend trump or the campaign or donald trump's campaign for the next month. he also said that his entire energy is going to be focused on trying to keep the republican majority. why? because he wants it to be a check on a democratic administration. he said that he does not want to give a blank check to a democratic-controlled white house, democratic-controlled congress or hillary clinton administration. so that could be interpreted in some ways as throwing in the towel, saying that donald trump has no chance of winning so we need to worry about ensuring that if hillary clinton does win which it looks like she may, we have a republican house to prevent her from doing whatever she wants. so he made it very clear that he is just trying to keep the house republican majority. now, one thing that is not clear right now is whether or not he revoked his endorsement of donald trump. we were told going into this from ryan officials that he was not going

board with the notion that donald trump is the nominee. but i am told that, even he is having a lot of trouble, mostly -- for several reasons but mostly because of his personal anger and frustration that donald trump continues to go after house speaker paul ryan. paul ryan and reince priebus are old friends, dear friends from the state of wisconsin, and even though i am told priebus continues to tell trump, please don't do this, it's bad for the party, never mind personal. he refuses to listen. what does that mean? priebus has been helping trump in private, but he hasn't appeared with him in public, even though trump went to priebus' home state of wisconsin this week. didn't go there. was in colorado when trump was having an event. didn't appear with him in public there. it will be fascinating to see whether or not priebus shows up in the spin room tonight to be a surrogate, a public face, for donald trump because he hasn't been in the past couple of weeks. >> as the sounds of silence from some of these republicans has been pretty ominous.

the election. it is very difficult to defend donald trump's position. crying several republicans in the room are saying that tim kaine's interruptions justified donald trump cause interruptions. is there a difference between the two? >> it was a different kind of debate. this was a conversation from and after the first few minutes and they both interrupted each other. in the other debate, it was very different. >> i believe that he did. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> i think what they said is again, how tragic it is for americans to wake up and find putin's leading rusher on the offensive and obama and clinton are retreating. not to say vladimir putin is good, what he is saying is unfortunately we have this leadership in washington. ironic and tragic that these people, vladimir putin is leading russia and our leadership in washington has america -- that was the whole point. grimes you came down here from virginia to watch this debate as senior republican from texas. i agree withure that. >> you are certainly a senior member of the

donald trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her. mr. donald trump grabbed her dress and tried to put his hands up her skirt. he was like an octopus, his hands were everywhere. she fled to the back of the plane. ms. leads told that story to at least four people close to her who also spoke to the "new york times." can i just ask if we have that video that we thought we were going to have? we have a little clip of a video that was posted by the "new york times," these are two named women who spoke with the "new york times" tonight, both recounting incidents that happened a long time ago. here's one of the women explaining a little bit about what happened. >> if he had stuck with the upper part of the body, i might not have gotten -- i might not have gotten that upset. but it's when he started putting his hand up my skirt, and that was it. that was it. i -- i was out of there. >> again, that's one of the women who made these allegations about donald trump's behavior tonight in the "new york times." there's two things that i want to tell you

>> what i'm saying is that donald trump -- >> the leadership. >> donald trump has tapped into something that the republicans have lost in the last 30 years which is the rank and file people. that's why donald trump continues to have 75% of the republicans self-identified supporting donald trump and all the republican leadership who want to self-preserve are walking away. >> here's the thing. the 25 undecided voters that cnn spoke to before the take, 1606 them, only two would change their mind. the other take away was what trump did was terrible but the clintons are liars. that speaks to the david versus goliath and the perception is leadership is fleeing but maybe not the voters. >> i'm going to talk about what david said. i don't have the audacity to agree with david. the things you were saying that donald trump needed to do is something he hasn't shown us he's capable of doing. he's not shown he can step up to the challenge. i don't know why we think he can today. i don't think he can win the debate tonight. i think his goal is to survivor and move onto tomorrow. donald trump, i love

ideal template i think for folks who are going to survive the donald trump effect in this election. >> anderson, if they wrap themselves around the policies that donald trump talked about, immigration, welfare reform, getting us back in line and not being a continuing to spin out of control, they could easily say look, i don't want agree with our nominee on everything but he's pointed out some key things that define where this country will go for the next four years. and those issues, they can easily embrace because when you put head-to-head issues on the two candidates overwhelmingly the people would support donald trump. >> thank you so much. coming up next hillary clinton on the trail trying to loosen donald trump's i grip on ohio. and later my conversation with jorge ramos. and what he says the rise of hate groups in the wake of his campaign. ♪ (ee-e-e-oh-mum-oh-weh) (hush my darling...) (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) (hush my darling...) man snoring (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) woman snoring take the roar out of snore. y

all the real polls show donald trump got trounced again in the second debate. cnn says hillary clinton won 57-34. nbc says she won 44 opinion 34. at 9:05 a.m., johnny knoxville, i mean, donald trump, tweeted our very weak and infective leader paul ryan had a conference call where his members went wild at his disloyalty. only one person is going to be the next speaker of the house, paul ryan or nancy pelosi. the president will have to deal with one of them in the house, and that speaker will be able to control every piece of legislation voted on in committees or on the floor of the house. you cannot pass anything in the house of representatives without the speaker of the house. the other thing no one in the jackass campaign understands is that the only congressional parliamentary procedure that is actually specified in the constitution is that all tax legislation must begin in the house of representatives. donald trump has some ideas about taxation. and if he is president, then nancy pelosi is speaker of the house, he won't get one vote, and if ryan is the speake

i think that he helped reset the debate and that will help donald trump in the next. >> coming from the other side it said that mike pence didn't defend donald trump tonight. did you see the same thing watching the debate? >> it's more important to talk about their policies and what they will do to help working americans and why they don't trust hillary clinton in the first place. she's talking about tax returns but i'm still waiting to see the 30,000 e-mails. she's talking about jobs and i think maybe she's created three or four when she hired people to help delete her e-mails and they ended up taking the fifth. there's a lot wrong with this picture. so his job was to lay out the policies and go on offense about how disastrous four more years be said t said about policies ad national security policies would be. and i think that tim kaine sounded silly trying to convince us that we live in a safer america. >> the governor said several times that it was insult driven and told me about that strategy tonight. >> i wasn't in on the strategy but it's clear all the name-calling i was coming f

let "the new york daily news" help out unless you've forgotten what donald trump said on the "access hollywood" tape released on friday. so this women for trump event did happen outside national republican party headquarters today. a pro donald trump protest billed for a women for trump event and in the middle of it, there's this guy. now, to be clear, this guy is not an ironic anti-trump protester there to disrupt the event and make all of the women feel bad about being there. he is a trump supporter. he did media interviews at this event as a trump supporter explaining why he was there, to try to pressure the rnc into being more supportive of his candidate donald trump. to show support for his candidate. happy for trump women event. better to grab the p word than to be one. ladies, but you know what, 29 days before a national election, provocative actions like this tend to have consequences and it turns out the organizer of this rally today, outside republican party headquarters, organizer of the rally turns out to have been the virginia state chairman of the donald trump campaign.

the mr. trump that i know. >> that's the donald trump i know. >> the donald trump i know is not the donald trump on those tapes. >> this is not the donald trump that i know. >> this is not the donald trump that i know. >> that's not the donald trump that i know. >> it's not the donald trump i know. >> i think donald trump is somebody who i don't know. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: when are we going to meet the donald trump that they know? might be time to bring him out of hiding. is it possible he has a twin brother? ronald trump? who's been doing all this stuff? one thing this campaign has not done is helped donald trump's businesses. spending at trump brand properties is said to be down more than 16% from last year. new reports say travelers have been canceling vacations at trump resorts and avoiding restaurants on trump properties. good news, sales of red baseball caps are through the roof. the isleye to eyial, wikileaks continues to release private e-mails to and from the account of john podesta, one of the e-mails a potential list of running mates before she picked tim kain

>> this is part of the problem that donald trump is having now, their argument seems to be the donaldrump you see in the video is not the donald trump of today. that is a fine argument until there's another video or says something or behaves in a way -- at the debate last night -- this is just locker room talk. >> let's play it. >> are you saying that what you said on that bus 11 years ago, you did not actually kiss women without consent or grope women without consent. >> i have great respect for women, nobody has more respect for women than i do. >> for the record, you're saying that never happened. >> i was embarrassed by it, but i have tremendous respect for women. >> have you ever done those things. >> women have respect for me. i will tell you -- no, i have not. >> i was just saying, and then you hear that answer last night that suggests he sees the dialogue in that video as, you know, just kind of banter, this is just kind of what guys do. i think it's difficult for the trump campaign and donald trump to make the argument or say somehow he's a different guy now. everything that

the debate. a guest of donald trump. she spoke at the republican con veng vengs j and he invited the president's half brother. he says he's voting for donald trump in 2016. chris wallace will be moderating the debate. he's a point of pride for us. it's the first time a fox anchor has been asked to moderate. debt and entitlements, the economy, supreme court, foreign hot spots, and fitness or the president topics for tonight. >> it'll be interesting. >> thank you so much. >> thank you, john. >> hillary clinton preparing for anything and everything that donald trump might throw at her. >> and he certainly has a treasure-trove of material. tonight's debate coming on the heals of another crippling e-mail leak. >> mike is live for us in las vegas. and, mike, this is one of clinton's final chances to convince americans that she can. wi be trusted. >> reporter: no question, and hillary clinton's senior advisors told us she is looking forward to the opportunity tonight on that debate stage to connect with potential voters includin

trump and the person donald trump was. this wasn't mike pence talking policy, this was mike pence vounlging for the man himself. mike pence, a deeply religious individual, has the respect of the republican party, the establish and conservative wings and repeatedly vounlged for trump. now this video comes out. it's problematic. we haven't heard from the trump camp and the pence sources are not elaborating. you can read this a very specific way. you said avalanche, i say wave, you can use any number of descriptions here. this is adding to a very, very problematic afternoon for trump. >> fred, this really ups the ante for tomorrow night for donald trump here at this debate and in st. louis. he absolutely has a huge, huge victory tomorrow night or not a major stumble because if he does stumble, it's going to get worse for him politically. more people abandoned him. he can turn the tide around if he takes it to hillary clinton. >> how? how? >> that shows -- very good question. >> a good performance from donald trump after this.

the debate. it shows the trump campaign in free fall. it shows donald trump as a candidate, with nothing to lose when he took the debate stage last night, because he already lost. so donald trump had nothing at stake last night. hillary clinton did. the presidency. the presidency is hers tonight, assuming she can run out the clock between now and november 8th without trump scoring any points against her. so she did what a professional would do, she played it safe last night, knowing she didn't have to reach for a knockout punch for a candidate who is already knocked out. joining us, rick tyler and spokesperson for the cruz campaign and maria theresa kumar. the theater aspect of stuff drives me a little crazy. but i was stunned that in all the theatrical analysis, very few words spoken about the one thing that seemed to have been left out of trump debate prep, and that is how to breathe. >> well, not only how to breathe, but also this idea that the moment hillary got into his space, he almost seemed like a cage animal and started pacing back and forth, f

donald trump. i expect if donald trump should lose in november, i expect there to be real soul searching in the republican party. >> chris moody, i appreciate your thoughts. thank you so much. >>> so what's next from donald trump on the defense fighting multiple women. what this means for the campaign less than 30 days now from the election. >>> well, donald trump has lost several supporters in the wake of sexual assault allegations but some only to return a couple days later. how will the latest accusations now affect his campaign in the final, extremely crucial weeks before this election is coming up next month? with me now trump supporter and former reagan white house director jeffrey lord. and scottie bolden. former director of the democratic national committee. >> good morning. >> donald trump said last night that he say victim here. do you believe donald trump is a victim? >> let me tell you why. this is the biggest exercise of what i call ruling class hypocrisy that i've seen in a long time. i mean, nbc has say tape of juanita broaddrick that they're apparently unwilling to release with a full tape

trump is the next donald trump. and we're going to get so many of these stories coming out, this is the tip of iceberg. >> either people who say they were sexual assaulted or harassed years ago can be believed or they can't. and you don't get to say they can if and only if. >> you're dragging out years old allegations, now we're going to return folly with -- my con tension, you know, to be sort of consistent here, i have no business in saying that the women who have accused bill clinton of lying of sexual assault are making it up. i respect the possible credibility of what they're saying, but he's not running for president. and that to me is the crucial distinction here. >> it was really rich to hear the trump surrogate on the phone. >> a.j.? >> yeah, mention that like what if bill clinton was in the white house. well what if donald trump was in the white house? >> yes. >> that's exactly what people are -- >> on the tape, it says when you're a star, you can do whatever you want. if he's president, what do you think h

too heavily, all the donald trump supporters will turn against himin the house and harm in his future career badly. but if he wraps himself around donald trump, he's got the opposite problem. so if he were to become the nominee, that is still not out of the question. if donald trump has a bad debate tonight and it is really clearly over, there's going to be more pressure on him to step down. >> let's use that as a tease. is it possible that donald trump will not be the republican nominee in 30 days? we'll discuss that and much, much more. stick around. a lot more going on here live at washington university in st. louis. don't go anywhere. what if there was a paint... ...that made you look at paint differently... ...question everything you know... ...and what you don't know... what if it's built with better ingredients... ...given super powers... ...and even a secret base to test those powers. since benjamin moore reinvented paint, it makes you wonder... ...is it still paint? find benjamin moore paint, only at one of our authorized retailers near you.

the election. showing how damaging it was for donald trump's campaign. kellyanne conway >> reporter: from time to time throughout the campaign, the campaign can say one thing. the candidate will say something different. we will see if donald trump will take the message and go forward. clearly, a lot of significant moments in the debate. a lot of heated exchange. that overshadowing and raising questions about his temperament. john and christine. >> that is the headline. thanks for that. >> mike pence, his running mate, will accept the outcome. donald trump on an island here this morning. it will be a complicated question for the next 24 to 48 hours. after the debate, hillary clinton met with reporters on her plane and she talked about the answer. listen. >> one of our hallmarks has been to accept the election. we have free and fair elections which we do. somebody wins and somebody loses. what he said tonight is part of his whole effort to blame somebody else for his campaign. >> very interesting. it alluded to it. this is not a reality show. this is an ele

that suggests movement back in donald trump's direction after the debate. when you take a two-way race, just hillary clinton, just donald trump, that margin also seven in the one day just after the debate. you can see some other numbers starting to move here. donald trump's supporters wanting him to stay in the race. that number going up as a result of the debate. that's another movement in his direction that we saw. again, i think the headline here, thomas, is this is fluid. what we got over the weekend was a look in that poll, the 48 hours that may be the worst 48 hours donald trump has suffered as a candidate. his poll numbers fell down double digits. now we're seeing a hint that that debate performance was enough for that margin to start shrinking a little bit. that still leaves him clearly behind. we have him down nine points now when you take in two days of the video coverage, one day after the debate, still has him down nine points. but movement back in his direction. obviously, we'll need to see more numbers come in over the next few days, over the r

the world. and donald trump supporter. i want to bring up a story within the past hour. men saying donald trump touched them inappropriately. one of them just in case you haven't yet heard it, i want to just read you do coat of what jez kah leads says happened to her an a first class fight. 45 minutes after take of you she recalled mr. trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her. mr. trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hands you have her skirt. she fled to the back of the plane. it was an assault. what is your reaction to this jerry? >> well of course i don't know anything about these reports. but i do know that the most recent breaking news is trump campaign is denying that any of those allegations are true. and they are very upset with the "new york times" about launching an attack like this. and to do it so late in the campaign. and it's -- i take him as his word. i think he's a good man. i know the donald trump of today. i know that he was his first major hire was to bring mike pence on as his vice presidential candidate. and he spoke at liberty univers

we are getting an inspirational leader in the form of donald trump. charles: steven, a lot of folks on the republican side have been against donald trump for a myriad of reasons. i think you are on that list. what do you make of it when people say you are not a real republican, you are not a real conservative. it's all about protecting the establishment, your tougher and your own wallet. >> i'm not a republican. i have never been a republican, i'm not associated with the republican party. i'm a conservative with libertarian leanings. i'm making a case for small limited government. charles: have you ever voted other than the republican candidate? >> yes, i voted for harry brown. the framing of this as republican establishment versus non-republican establishment. many people who are opposed to donald trump are small conservative government. paul ryan, by the way, who is now being disparaged as part of the republican establishment is the person who fought the republican stab to the introduce entitlement reform. anyone who is worried about $20 trial in deb

trump. "the apprentice" premiered on nbc. >> it is donald trump's baby. >> the show was a hit for nbc and thingsgoing well at home too. >> in january 2005, donald trump married melania. >> did you guys sign a prenup? >> absolutely. i won't need it, but we did sign it. >> i can't believe i just asked you that. >> isn't that a terrible thing? >> a year later melania gave birth to trump's son barron. >> i have great kids. they are really hard working. >> things seemed to be going well, but in this decade there were two more bankruptcies. trump hotels and casinos accrued an estimated 1.8 billion in debt and went bankrupt in 2004. trump entertainment resorts hit hard by the recession went bankrupt in 2009. tim o'brien began writing "trump nation" in 2004 with donald trump's cooperation and attempted to find out what trump's net worth really was. >> when i went back and started doing the math, the numbers weren't adding up. >> the book came out in 2005 and in 2006 trump sued o'brien for $5 billion. he claimed he was defamed. to win, trump had to prove o'brien acted with malice. however, the presiding

must be personal for the president. donald trump has basically tried to delegitimize his presidency. >>> it is the final fortnight. donald trump is fighting against the math. a new cnn/orc has hillary clinton leading donald trump by five points. trump says the polls are just wrong. >> i believe we're actually winning. i believe we are actually winning. if you read the new york times and read some of the phony papers. these are phony dishonest papers. if you read this stuff, it's like what are we doing? what are we wasting time? i think we're winning. >> as you can see, he is fighting not just math, but the media. cnn's jim acosta is traveling with donald trump and has the latest. >> reporter: john and christine, donald trump is ramping up attacks on the national news media accusing news outlets with dark polls. covering the campaign as crooks and thieves. as a rally in tampa, he said they don't care about hard working people. >> the media isn't just against me. they're against all of you. that's what it is. like hillary clinton, the

also not anger the core donald trump supporters. she got herself in trouble this month when she was asked at the debate if she could consider donald trump a role model. at the time, she said absolutely before walking it back. i asked her yesterday. what happened. >> at the debate, i corrected that because i made a mistake. debates, you are asked a lot of questions at a debate. what is clear to me is neither donald trump nor hillary clinton unfortunately are role models. >> reporter: on the other side, maggie hassan tried to cover herself with the top of her ticket appearing at a rally with hillary clinton and elizabeth warren yesterday. leading the case for a one-party democratic party in washington is more effective than divided government. it really shows you all the challenges that republicans face down ticket and running with donald trump given how controversial he has been. be john and christine. >> thank you. >>> new this morning, a price tag for obamacare premiums. the cost of the silver plan will rise 22% in 2017. that is a s

mpaign assuming he loses again, and form either the new donald trump show or the donald trump network. there is a market for the sort of mention he's peddlinpeddling. see that hillary clinton wins as the prediction sites are suggesting, guess who's going to be most vocal, prominent critic of hillary clinton -- donald trump. and it's probably not just going to be him callinging in to sean hannity's show. it's easy to see him with his own show or a bigger platform than that. >> some are drawing parallels between this and other branding situation that's have been caused by founders' names being linked to their businesses. we know donald trump has his name on all those businesses. so does history tell us anything about how this could possibly ♪ >> yeah. i just don't see that the trump name is going to dwindle and become irrelevant. and let's think about -- think about overseas markets. donald trump tried for years to develop real state projects in russia. i think his prosprekects are ber in russia after f he loses. he's popular. there's a new course element that's bec

the rest of us? mark: donald trump has also been claiming victory. at was the main thrust of his talking points when he came, in manner, intoted the spin room last night. donald trump and his team trying to mitigate the fallout from the criticism of his debate, or as some people call it, "making excuses." donald trump: i had some hostile questions. he didn't ask her about the e-mails at all. he didn't ask her about her scandals. he didn't ask her about the benghazi deal. he didn't ask her about a lot of things that she should have been asked about. there is no question about it. when you look at it, when you watch the last four questions, he hit me on birther. he hit me on a housing deal from many years ago that i settled a while ago. they were leaving all of her little goodies out. those questions are not answerable in a positive light. i had a problem with my microphone. it did not work -- i do not know if you saw them in the room. my microphone. i wonder if it was set up that way on purpose. my microphone in the room -- they couldn't hear me. it wa

the stunning speeches. one by first lady michelle obama and one by donald trump. sault allegations against donald trump. why after the year and a half of a crazy campaign has this become the inflection point? the treatment of women. we have all sorts of people. great guests to help us analyze this. we have a lot happening in the background here. people getting ready for the show. we have carl burnstein and reporters to walk us through when chris and i and the crew see you at the top of the hour. >> i had no idea there was so much walking in television. so much walking went in to preparation. alisyn camerota. great to see you. at least you did not abandon me this morning. i appreciate it. >>> united airlines suffering widespread delays last night. so bad they ensnared the star of "early start." christine romans. when will she get home? we will have an early start on your money next. ♪ ♪ the highly advanced audi a4. ♪ i'm jamie foxx for verizon. in the nation's largest independent study by rootmetrics, again, verizon is the number one network. hi, i'm jamie foxx for

the "washington post" today. kristin anderson said donald trump grabbed her in exactly the way donald trump told billy bush he grabs women. >> i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them, like a magnet. just kiss. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. >> she was in a crowded manhattan nightclub, she says, about 20 years ago and didn't realize she was sitting next to donald trump until he touched her. karen tumulty's report in the "washington post" says she recalls his fingers slid under her mini skirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear. >> this is the vift part for me. so the person on my right who unbeknownst to me at that time was donald trump put their hands up my skirt. and as i pushed the hand away and got up and turned around and i see these eyebrows, very distinct eyebrows of donald trump. >> here's donald trump's response to kristin anderson's story today. >> one came out recently where i was sitting alone at some club. i don't sit alone, that muc

is it the kind of thing you might have heard donald trump say? >> yes. >> and i want to go to the notion that donald trump cannot release his tax returns, his most recent tax return because its under audit. the irs said clearly that's not an inhibitor to releasing a tax return. president nixon released a tax return that is under audit. and then there is also the fact that we don't actually have any proof at all that there is an audit going on. it's something donald trump just says. what is your reaction to that generally, the notion of a presidential candidate saying i can't release it because it's under audit, and then never even giving us the audit letter from the irs, never even proving there is an audit. >> well, i can't comment on whether or not he is having an audit because i have no knowledge. but clearly, there is no reason not to be able to release the return. >> david cay johnston has a question, mr. mitnick. david? >> the net operating loss number, the $916 million that you had to do using your selectrik typewriter, that's just a cumula

but the point donald trump has made. that i made traveling around the country is voter fraud is real. and has happened throughout the country in specific places. >> -- has shown it's not meant the difference between winning or losing. it is real, perhaps. but not wide spread. >> -- price paid for the right to vote, you know, why is it a numerical issue? republican, democrat, independents augment independents ought to stand for the begt integrity of the vote. and simply calling on supporters to come to rallies and saying to them be involved in the electoral process. be there on election day. respectfully provide the kind of accountability that will ensure the integrity of the vote. but voter fraud dana is real. we're dealing with it in the state of indiana right now. we have literally thousands of instances of fraudulent voter registration. we're working to run all of that to ground right now. we just need to be vigilant. >> the other thing bedrock of democracy is a smooth transition. and so given that, do you believe that

but donald trump doesn't carrier. he can launch the netflix of donald trump. >> think outside the box of this kind of network. >> he can launch, a reporting we did today, it's much broader than just a network. it's a media company. when you think of steven bannon, and a global right wing network, populace anger in france and the uk. you have trump doing something similar here. >> why not just rename breitbart trump? and we're done. >> tnn. yeah, i think matthew's right about the idea of something broader. there's a new thing on snapchat, we the people. and the founder of politico, they did a snap blast saying that what donald trump really wants is media empire. yoreight, that the barriers to entry are much lower. you take the blaze model that glenn beck did. i talked to experts who said you could do that for around $20 million. whereas the oprah network costs $100 million. he's going to be on the tv where you change the channel. >> the tv he knows how to find. >> we're going to have to leave it there. mike alan and michael garahan. >>>