commissioner ong hing, the dpa made the point, right? >> commissioner ong hing: well, they do have a response. so we are not -- what -- what i'm -- what i am recommending and what i understand the dpa's recommendation is is that we don't use tazers against people on this list. we make sure that it's clear that you don't use tazers against anyone on this list because of the potential harm to them, right? that's why we have this list here. we don't want tazers used if there's a reasonable knowledge that somebody's on this list. we downtown want them using it. and only when you have the need for deadly force do you pull it. but if -- she may be right. if you're in that circumstance, you may pull a gun, but this is a way of making sure that the tazer is not used against these -- these populations if it's reasonably known that the population -- that somebody falls into one of these populations. it's not -- it's not removing -- it's not removing the use of a less lethal force, it's -- it's making sure that it's not used against a vulnerable po

if it goes to the dpa they don't have the authority. we -- we may have an officer that is on the treat that -- street that shouldn'ted be. i i think there should be simultaneously reporting and immediately returning that informati information to the madpolice department so they do what they need to do and what they have the authority to do instead of waiting for the dpa to come to their -- >> i never said that. i said they woushould have immediate notice as well. the department needs to do what they need to do. that doesn't mean we shouldn't have the dpa also investigating. they're not the ones going to deal with it anyway. whatever they find will come to the chief or us to deal with in any case. the department is doing other theics deal with it. i think it's compliment -- compleme complementary. >> immediate notification to the police department and we have many instances where there's simultaneously investigation. >>s okay. >> commissioner -- >> commander walsh, said a co come -- compromise. a middle point the department was willing t

it is the view by certain organizations, the dpa, coalition on homelessness, bar association and aclu the preferred term should be weapon not device. their position is tasers use the term weapon. weapons convey more gravity a stronger sense of seriousness to the officers and public. the department's view is that the preferred term is device because the service's department uses it as does the ucsf, police department, bart and many other law enforcement departments use device. the city attorney advises it is to use the term device with consistency with other law enforcement agencies operating within the city. officers already have a sense of gravity and consequences for using anything provide them as a tool. so, that is the first issue. electronic control device, electronic control weapon. >> i think we should stick with the term device because it's consistent with what the sheriff's department is doing for litigation purposes. again, there's no need for to us recreate the wheel. i prefer we stay with the term device. all the other agencies participating are playing a game of semantics

the reporting that the dpa is suggesting is already a part of the review board process. it's separate from the 96a report. >> commissioner: is this something that also came from seattle? i need clarification because i'm not understanding the two different reports. >> thank you. originally, we had requested two different kinds of reports. one we had asked for with the 96a the use of force report. we used the sheriff's example where in their use of force report they provide summaries especially when they use force and tasers and they're brief summaries but it gives more information to the public and commission. we asked the summaries be included. my understanding is we had the agreement with the department they would provide summaries in the 96a report. so that's one thing and to clarify the amendments that are going on with the board of supervisor with the 96a don't impact use of force. we felt in the agreement there be 9 6a reports with summaries about tasers. that was our request. separate was a request and we have agreement for the review board there would be a report

i'm still hearing from the dpa that our language does not include 40 hours of c.i.t. training. that includes only the field tactics training which is 20 hours. i'm voting on this with the representation and the belief that it's 40. >> president turman: and that was the representation that i got at the -- at the stakeholders group, and that's what i specifically said should be included. what is -- what is the position of the department? >> the department -- the department does not object to the 40-hour training. who can argue with more training? >> president turman: you what? >> who can argue with more training. we can't object to that. >> president turman: so the training now the 40-hour training and the 20-hour training. >> commissioner, i don't believe it spells it out. >> president turman: it doesn't say 40 and 20, but the two trainings, i understand, are 40 hours and 20 hours. is that correct? >> that is correct. it doesn't state that. >> president turman: it doesn't state the number of hours, but that's what they are, is that correct? >> that's what they will be, yes. >> pr

aldon especially has done service on both sides of the department and the dpa. we are most appreciative of the work you've done. you've been very helpful. and we could not have done the work we've done without shouch tremendous service and sacrifice by all of you. thank you. any questions for director henders henderson? director henderson, also in your presentation, you didn't note that there were -- that the [ indiscernible ] which is certainly a good sign and i'm assuming you're satisfied these are thorough investigation. also what i'm hearing is we seem to have less filings between last year and that year. is that correct? >> that is correct. a combination of two things. one, we've introduced a triage model. so cases are handle and are not ta taking a full year to do the investigation. also we are getting less cases coming in the door. i think that that is going to change once we get a new computer system up and web site up so that it's easier for people to access information and get us the information either on their phones or through the internet. you can do

while at the same time agreeing to this so—called dpa, which was controversial, he said his reaction,rosecuted in the context of egregious criminality over decades then it was difficult to see how any company would be prosecuted. even thejudge seems to be baffled by this. yes. well, hardly. that's the first paragraph of his, i think, 90—page judgement, where he then goes through all the conduct and outlines the reasons he thinks the dpa was in the interest of justice. this is the president of the queen's bench division. this isn't any old judge. but as you're outgoing, can you say to me that you believe that the punishment fit the crime is right now, in your your sphere of investigation of criminality? in terms of individuals? yes. sentences of fraud and bribery have gone up almost exponentially over the past ten or 15 years. for corporates, rolls—royce, a company sailing off into the horizon despite 30 years of what the judge described as egregious criminality. and paying a fine of £497 million. you think that's fine? so many would say, given its behaviour, rolls—royce should be woun

the best interest. this is not just any dpa was in the best interest. this is notjust any old judge. sphere? —— fit the crime is right now, in yours to make yoursphere? —— in fit the crime is right now, in yours to make your sphere? —— in your sphere. sentences of more than bribery have gone up almost exponentially over the past ten or 15 years. for rolls-royce, a company sailing into the horizon, despite 30 yea rs of sailing into the horizon, despite 30 years of what the judge described as egregious criminality. and paid a fine of £497 million. that is fine. so many would say, given its behaviour, rolls—royce should be wound up. that is a large fine, isn't it? as we discussed, looking at the share price, afterwards, it didn't really matter what happened. i think half £1 billion is a significant penalty. before we close, let's consider the international climate. you get the kind of international cooperation you need in the context of a global business and financial market? yes. there are some countries wake getting evidence is either impossible or not to happen. russia, for instance.

90—page judgement, where he then goes through all the conduct and sets out the reasons he thinks the dpa's bench division. this isn't any old judge. but as you're outgoing, can you say to me that you believe that the punishment fit the crime is right now, in your your sphere of investigation of criminality? in terms of individuals? yes. sentences of fraud and bribery have gone up almost exponentially over the past ten or 15 years. for corporates, rolls—royce, a company sailing off into the horizon despite 30 years of what the judge described as egregious criminality. and paying a fine of £497 million. you think that's fine? so many would say, given its behaviour, rolls—royce should be wound up. it's a fair old fine, isn't it? as we discussed, looking at the share price afterwards it didn't really matter what happened. i think £500 billion is a fairly significant penalty. before we close, let's consider the international climate. do you get the kind of international cooperation you need in the context of a global business and financial market? yes. there are some countries where getting e

also present the director of dpa and standing this is as assistant chief. >> welcome to the wednesday, april 18, 2018 san francisco police commission meeting. the items before we start with reference to the closed session which we have a busy closed session. line item a taken off for further evaluation in light of the koss sell ladecision of the united states supreme court. with reference to public comment we have a large closed session calter and busy. public comment will be two minutes to facilitate the calendar. before we proceed, sometimes we adjourn in the memory or honor of san francisco police officers who have passed. we recently lost lieutenant chris martinez. 1525. we will add june in his honor tonight. nobody is around when we do to adjournment. i know that lieutenantnent chris martinez was close with the police commission secretary. i will tell you about the lieutenant chris martinez. he was star 1425. he joined on december 2, 1991 as member of the 170th recruit class. she at taped rank of master sergeant. you know that is the general of the enlisted. she became a police o

dpa. >> thank you. members of the san francisco public, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for attending the wednesday april 11, 2018, regular meeting of the san francisco police commission. because of some lengthy discussion i believe we're going to have as well as other items off the agenda i'm going to afound announce some squabblichanges. we'll take general public comments right away. item two discussion possible ite items. issuance of bullen tin 18-30e 5 that will be rescheduled. 18-305 will be rescheduled. >> you have that? >> yes, sir. >> you may call the first item. >> general public comment. the public is welcome to address the commission on items that do not appear on the agenda but are within the subject matter. speaker will address the remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individuals or dpa personn personnel. under police commission rules of owner neither police nor personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. police and personnel should refrain

. >> what is the dpa saying? they're saying there's no value and nothing to see here. >> here's the thing, add your headline to several others that have come out about scott pruitt. $105,000 on a flight. there are reasons the epa would come back and say, well these thing would be out of the norm. can pruitt survive this? >> i think it's going to be difficult. time and again wen we have seen cabinet members, david shulkin first came under scrutiny because of travel expenses. president trump as gotten dissatisfied quickly with the negative headlines and made the change. >> there's also the flip of that, he digs in and refuses to make the change a lot of peep expect him to make. that was not the case with shul condition. i was in a briefing room asking questions about this when it was building up. let's get to the question on shulkin, resigned versus fired. hee making real clear he was fired by tweet. there's no other way to interpret his comments. it involves the reform acts of 1998, don't turn the channel stay wit

report it makes perfect sense to have the dpa forward allegations it has received to the da's office. i understand there are conflicting legal opinions whether that is appropriate for not. i haven't heard sound policy decisions to prohibit that, and i think the commission does have responsibility to weigh in on a policy level. >> we have weighed in. it is in here, right? >> fair enough. i support the da's authority to do that. it makes perfect sense. i it is on the oversight board for batter police and -- bart police and the officer has authority to do that. that is important so i support that. that is all. thank you. >> just to address a point. i am sorry can you direct me to the section where we addressed this specifically? >> in terms of criminal allegations? >> yes. >> on page 5 under section 3b allegations of criminal conduct. >> could you read that. >> allegations of criminal conduct if any portion of the complaint allegations criminal misconduct by a department member the dba shall immediately forward the information presented by the complaint to the department and district att

i talked with my friends in the dpa, we're finding out that marijuana legal marijuana is sold on the black market like anything else that there are plenty of it around if there's a commodity. s soybean, corn. you don't put it in the warehouse, you sell it to someone. i happen to sit on the board of a hospital. i happen to know a week ago, we had 28 weeks in 24 hours come in and they're out of their mind because of the combination. you need to understand that there is no standard for marijuana. i went to college in the '60s, the stuff i spoked was 4% thc, now it is 38% thc. there was no opioid problem in the country in places like new wark, camden, new jersey. places like trenton or paterson. these are the hoods, yal. it got on the park way and went to places up county and places down county. and when the people who didn't look like me, their kids started dying. then there's an epidemic. you can't put this, i say it to governor murphy, you want to know what it will do, stick around and talk to me. the last thing i want to point out, newark, camden, paterson and trenton, we have the th

i talked with some of my friends in the dpa, we're finding out that marijuana, legal marijuana is sold on the black market, like anything else that there are plenty of it around, if there's any commodity. soy beans, corn, you don't put it in a warehouse, you sell it to someone and that mixture. i happen to sit on the board of a hospital. i happen to know that just a week ago, we had 28 kids in 24 hours come in and they're out of their mind because of the combination. you need to understand that there is no standard for marijuana. i went to college in the '60s. the stuff i smoked was 4% thc. the stuff that's out there now is 38 to 98% thc. every mother ought to worry about it. there was no opioid problem in this country when it was in places like newark, places like camden in new jersey, places like trenton or patterson. these are the hoods, y'all. there was no opiate, but it got on the parkway and went up county and down county and when the people that didn't look like me, their kids started dying, then we had an epidemic. i stopped by to tell you, you can't put this and i say this to

the company to come in and explain to us in great detail and walked to whether the principles of the dpa in the uk as we've been dealing with for many years now, or some other regime, to really take a deep dive and try to understand what's preventing you are what's not. and you can believe that the one institution that is saying absolutelynot, we will be fine and subject to all of these risks, they are going, going to have to engage them in a much more in-depth dialogue and a hot bench approach to get to the root of that. >> let's take that and multiplied because you talk about the fraud section, which is one cohesively run and managed section -- >> thank you. >> and a few of course -- >> i'll take that. >> of few other use attorney offices run the country deal with these cases but now we talk every fda warned in america issued by both federal and state authorities, and i think willis and 18,000 prostitute all entities now an american or investigative prosecutor of a disease in america who might be interested in getting data stored that might be stored anywhere. should we expect that is

. >> when i think about facebook has all the most important data, we've studied the data. what dpasook and instagram have and dating apps is who i want to be so the world likes me. but what google and amazon have is that i'm buying tube socks, underpants and, you know, athlete's foot cream. but when you talk about valuable data, does facebook and dating apps and social media really have valuable data or our fake lives? >> here's what i think is more interesting than that is how is spending so much time on these apps changing our behavior? >> there you go. >> and that is what fascinates me. it's particularly interesting because dating apps are a fantastic way to meet somebody but they can't be the only way. and what you discover and i've talked to hundreds of women and some men in the making of this book is how much time people spend online to your point about data matching with someone who they think they know and then they have extraordinary text and flirty conversation which most people find fun. and they can have up to 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 flirty exchanges on texts before they go

most vulnerable with the u.s. dpa companies that have been investing and growing their business in china. the iconic brands like apple makes 20% of its sales and china and other names we have been speaking about, financially advisory firms that provide services to chinese companies could be impacted. black rock expressed that china remains a top priority for the top asset firm u.s. service exports to china which has increased over 400% from 2006 to 2015. that's according to the china's counsel. now we look to president xi's presentation tonight >> would xi say don't go to starbucks or would it be that o overt? >> social media maybe? >> social media is the tool they use to disperse message to everyone and broader bases in china, it is typically not an unofficial business. >> it is a subtle way to tell their citizens away from products right now >>> 2016, chinese investments and the u.s. totaled $29 billion after the big steady increase over the years entertainment retail, real estate and hospitality no longer of the bi

the fuel economy rules. they plan to slow global warming. >> it has never been done before that they would revoke previously granted waivers, we have never seen that before in court. >> dpa says that revoking the authority to put stricter standards in place that's what they're doing.>> the federal government and the state of california are on a collision course tonight. this is over efforts to protect the environment. joining us live from walnut creek. >> reporter: most carlet have vehicles that could get 40, 50, miles per gallon even with zero emissions. there will be and environmental fight in the court and impact what consumers find on the dealer lot. more than 17 million new cars were sold in the u. s. last year according to automotive news, many are vehicles that get increasingly high gas mileage. >> some get over 55 miles per hour -- 55 miles a gallon. >> it has impacted the car business throughout the manufacturers. >> reporter: manufacturers have agreed to get a fuel economy of 55 miles per gallon. they said it was set too high. and they want to re-examine the waiver under the clean air act and had their own stricter standards. it doesn't mean that wednesday coul

the deal, he is unlikely to stay in that deal past this may. ms. nauert: okay, our next question goes to ansgar haase for dpa. are you here? reporter: yeah. ms. nauert: that's you. okay, go right -- go right ahead, sir. reporter: secretary, when you look at the figures that were presented until now, do you think germany is doing enough to meet the 2% target? secretary pompeo: no. [laughter] reporter: what should germany do? secretary pompeo: they should meet the goals that they agreed to. look, this is -- it is the case over the past months that there has been progress made and lots of countries who are doing better. i think president trump made that a priority. i think many of the nato allies have, in turn, made it a priority for their country as well. i applaud that. i'm thrilled with that. but the goal remains clear, or the goals remain clear. that's the expectation. it's the expectation not only for germany but for everyone who signed up for that agreement. so we're hopeful that at the summit every nato partner will deliver a credible plan to achieve that goal. that's what they signed up for. that's our expectation for july. ms. nauert: ok

alteration permit, permission of two accessory dwelling unit on the first floor of an existing building perordinance 3015. seismic application is on dpa 201509046211. application 2016116829. note on march 21, 2018, the board voted 4-0-1, commissioner wilson absent to continue this appeal to allow time for the department to conduct site visit to verify existing conditions. so commissioner wilson, given that you were absent for the hearing on march 21, did you have an opportunity to review the material and video for this case prior to the hearing? [ inaudible ] >> clerk: okay. thank you. so the time limited for this matter is three minutes for each party, and we will start with the department to report on their site visit. >> we're going to get our money's worth for you for the first time this evening. >> i hope so. >> good evening, president fung, commissioners. cory teague, planning department staff. last time, there was some doubt raised as to the accuracy of the plans aof proed, specifically what was shown as the existing conditions and even more specifically along the northern property line in the rear -- the approved had shown tha

the commission. speaker shall address those remarks as a whole not to any personnel. under police commission rules of order during public comment dpa personnel or commissioners are required to respond. individual commissioners and dpa should refrain to any debates or discussion during public comment. >> time for general public comment. good evening ms. brown. how are you? >> good evening everyone. i was wondering last time they were going to write a letter to the dw. has anyone did that? >> commissioner turman was going to check with the commission staff. >> we did draft a letter under president truman's name waiting for his signature. >> if he is unable to sign it, i will sign it and change the name. >> we have it here. >> i would like a copy. again, i am here to talk about my son who was murdered august 14, 2006. we were at a meeting yesterday with chief scott, the mothers and myself on evanss street talking about unsolved homicide also. i brought up again about the posters and the murders still going on. the point is that we keep reinventing the cycle. these mothers are still talking to people about unsolved homicides and stuff.

let's move on to the dpa directo director's report. >> 1bdpa direct director report -- >> i'm sorry. hief, did you want to do the firearms discharge review? >> yes. we have that presentation. >> i'm sorry. before we move to the director's report. one moment. >> no problem. >> before you begin sergeant crudo, i want to make people entering this room aware ric, because they weren't here previously and they didn't see the monitor because they were on the way here. public comment has already taken pla place. likely whatever you're going to say may be appropriate under the chief's report after this report. general public comment has already taken place. you hear that, frank? did wiyou hear that, ms. brown? good. all right. go ahead sergeant crudo. welco welcome. >> good evening. president turman, chief scott i'm sergeant -- i coordinate the ois investigation team on the admin side. i will give you the 4th quarter 2017 combined with the 1st quarter 2018fdrb report and an update on the ois investigations. the last time i appeared before you to give an update was november 8, 2018. this is an