. >> s.l.f., the e.t.f. for silver. i would buy that. it's trading around the $15, $16 level. if silver goes to $21-plus, that's going to go up to those levels. my next play would be p.a.l., which is north american palladium. this is a play on palladium, and with all the cheap cars being produced in india and china, there's going to be a lot of demand for palladium and platinum because of the catalytic converter issues so this is a good low-price play. it's three bucks and could probably double. >> paul: one more choice quickly >> one play for the overall market would be the total stock market index, v.t.i.. any pullback weget here in october, november, i would buy v.t.i.. dow goes to 11,000 you have total stock market play here. >> paul: do you personally own the securities mentioned here or have other disclosures? you do >> i trade and own these securities, yes, paul, thank you. >> paul: our time has run out. thanks for being with us once again >> thank you, paul, for having me >> my guest, mark leibovit of vrtrader.com. >> susie: that's "nightly business report" for friday,