he was looking for the emperor penguins. there is a great neglected book called "no picnic in kenya." he was an italian and a british prison camp. he was in the prison camp with his mates, they were all battalions. they were near mount kenya and he said to his friends, this camp is driving me nuts. let's break out and climb that mountain. they got their close together and they got the equipment. they made equipment. then they broke out of the prison camp, climbed mount kenya to the top, then came back and turned themselves then -- and turned themselves in. they left a note at the top. it took them about six weeks. they climbed through the bamboo and the snow. the idea of breaking out of a camp to climb a mountain. tavis: when you put your new book together, did you know that the kinds of travel stories you were going for or is some of this what you discovered in the research? >> a lot of these i read a long time ago. some of them had been mentioned to me. i am very interested in books written by people who have never been the