the fbi needs to cooperate. finally, as the director points out in his testimony, the fbi is actively investigating wrongdoing and getting results every day. that is why it is so perplexing to hear nothing at all concerning the investigation it has been just about a year since then investigation was opened. i hope we will have the time today to discuss the status of that investigation. thank you for coming in for the hearing. >\> thank you. director comey was sworn in as the seventh director of the fbi. he also served as deputy attorney general for the department of justice. he was a u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. we are delighted to have you here. please go ahead. >> thank you. senators, let me start by thanking you for your support of the people of the fbi stop when i became director, one of the great him issues was the impact of sequestration. thanks to you, we now have the resources to rehire and fill those positions, to be the nsa -- national security organization that we need to be. na

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the fbi needs to cooperate. finally, as the director points out in his testimony, the fbi is actively investigating wrongdoing and getting results every day. that is why it is so perplexing to hear nothing at all itcerning the investigation has been just about a year since then investigation was opened. timee we will have the today to discuss the status of that investigation. thank you for coming in for the hearing. >> thank you. was sworn in as the seventh director of the fbi. he also served as deputy attorney general for the department of justice. he was a u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. we are delighted to have you here. please go ahead. >> thank you. senators, let me start by thanking you for your support of the people of the fbi stop when i became director, one of the the impactssues was of sequestration. thanks to you, we now have the resources to rehire and fill those positions, to be the nsa -- national security organization that we need to be. national security remains our top priori

it touches everything that the fbi is responsible for. i tried to explain to folks that it is not a thing, it is a vector. we have connected our entire lives to the internet. it is where our children pay and where our banking is stop health care and critical infrastructure. soon it will be where your refrigerator is and things you wear in your car. ouruse we have connected whole lives, the people who would do is home -- harm, that is where they come. for our children, as secrets, our infrastructure. it cuts across every responsibility that the fbi has. i was in indiana and someone was responding -- reminding me of the great vector change of the last century. it was the combination of the automobile, which introduced a new kind of crime to this country. criminals can travel very quickly. it was important to have a national resource to respond to that. i was reminded of it while they were talking to me about john dillinger. i said in response, john dillinger could not do 1000 robberies in the aim day in all 50 states in his pajamas halfway a

the government in general, the fbi, state department, u.s. or international development, none of them were willing to answer those questions. they were willing to talk generally. the state department did confirm naji's detention and that they had visited him in detention, but in terms of the firing of his mom, there is not much information. >> naji mansour, if you could explain why you decided to come nationalirst time on and international television, the significance of releasing these fbi calls for you? i wanted to come out with this since i was detained in juba. i told the embassy, they had a form, and i told them to alert everybody, immediate, my state senator, everybody. unfortunately, they did not do so. after i was released, my mother had some concerns, the blowback that would come to us if i did go to the media. on, this is till happening, the government is still asking me out for coffee. the last time i went to the embassy to renew my passport, a sickly this is not going away, we want our lives back. >> i want to thank you for being w

prior to his appointment to the fbi mr. coleman served as an officer in the united states army for nine years. we are delighteded that he could join us today. we ask him to proceed with his testimony. proceed, sir. >> good afternoon. i'm pleased to be here with you today to discuss the fbi's efforts to combat economic espionage and theft of trade secrets. the fbi consider it is investigation of theft of trade secrets and economic espionage a top priority. in 2012 alone the national counter intelligence executive estimated a range of loss to the u.s. economy approaching $400 billion. to foreign adversaries and competitors who by illegally obtaining a broad range of trade secrets degrade our nation's advantage in innovative research and development in the global market. this loss threatens the security of our economy and preventing such loss requires constant vigilance and aggressive. the fbi is working to apprehend those pursuing economic espionage against clear defense contractors and government agencies. it's made a signifi

it is very rare to have a law enforcement authority other than the fbi look into a shooting by the fbi. but here is the surprise. when that state prosecutor in florida looked into that shooting and released this report on what happened, that state prosecutor inadvertently released the name of the fbi agent that did that shooting. they weren't trying to. they were in fact trying hard not to release the fbi agent's name, but oops. when the globe reported that fbi agent's name, this is how they explained they got it. they said the name was quote, confirmed by unredacting the prosecutor's report, a process made relatively simple, because the blackout technique used to cover the names was faulty. i should say, the globe wasn't the first outlet to do this, before the globe ever published the story, a vaguely conspiratorial website about the boston marathon bombing also found the fbi agent's name in this report. and published it. because when that state prosecutor did the report, that fbi agent's name was not properly blacked out. the website did it first, then the globe did it. today the glo

it's information that the fbi at least does not want anyone to know. the globe this week reported the name of an fbi agent who was involved in a controversial fatal shooting about a year ago. we reported pretty extensively on that shooting over the course of that year, specifically on the fact that the fbi really only ever investigates itself when fbi agents shoot people. they only ever investigate themselves and they always, always exonerate themselves. in the last 151 times that an fbi agent has shot someone and the fbi has investigated that shooting, the fbi has found that shooting to be kosher and has exonerated itself 151 times out of 151 times. they almost always are the only ones to investigate their own shootings and they always find themselves to be justified every single time and so it was interesting and newsworthy when a local state prosecutor in florida decided to look into a shooting where an fbi agent killed someone in florida a little less than a year ago. it's very rare to have a law enforcement authority other than the fbi to look into

we will do this in partnership with the fbi. we will do this with our own intelligence community members so they can develop the tactics and procedures. then we will go across the federal community and create awareness. we are creating signatures into the system to make sure these events cannot be repeated. we are sharing it with the private and international partners to the enhanced security service. it is interagency, private sector, international. on the lower events, we are still doing the notification. i described the higher and. >> madame clark, what is great about today is what dhs learns informs the investigation. what we learned inform the protectors or defenders, dhs. this is a cycle that has developed over the past two years. the challenge of information that better safeguard the country. helps us spearhead and focus investigations. a robustell, that is and holistic approach. i think that will serve our nation well. my next question is the debate around protecting networks is focused on infrastructure. currently, the d

he was helping the fbi as an informant. do you think he got a fair deal. >> it's normal, because in drug cases when you capture drug king pens is you have the king men turn on everybody else and the king pen walks. this is something no new. what is new about this is they are doing this in hacking cases. in fact, when i was a hacker, back in the early 1990s, the government used a same kind of informant against me, but i figured it out quickly, and turned the tables on this guy. but - so they were doing this back in the 1990s, it's nothing new. did he get a fair deal. he was extremely lucky. he was facing at least 20 years in federal prison, and walked out on probation. that's unheard of. >> can the government trust hackers, people like you? >> well, it depends. you can't generally say hackers, it's on a case-by-case basis to the individual. in the past there has been informants like justin petersen, the guy that tried to get enough evidence for the fbi against me, and he turned out to be doing credit card fraud. an informant

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we need the fbi cooperating with customs and tsa. we need access to federal civil enforcement for trade secrets theft and well conceived legislation like the act recently introduced by senator kuhn and hatch. this will give us the ability to pursue people in the federal level and not on a state level. finally, we need to meet the global challenge of trade secret theft with global solutions and good trade agreements to stop these thefts. in conclusion, chairman whitehouse and senator hatch, trade secrets are vital for manufacturers small and large of the america's trade secret laws and policies must keep pace with today's threats. manufacturers need your help to ensure that they can effectively and efficiently protect and enforce their trade secrets. i applaud your attention to this critical challenge and your focus on solutions with strong global partnerships and closer collaboration between federal agencies and government and business and with the improvements to these u.s. laws including federal civil enforcement, we could have a re

ride to his appointment to the fbi, mr. coleman served as an officer in the united states army for nine years. we are delighted that he could themus today, and we ask to proceed with his testimony. proceed, sir. pleased to be here with you today to combat economic espionage and theft of trade secrets. the object considers investigation of theft of trade -- and and is it economic espionage a top priority. in 2012 alone, the national counterintelligence executive a lossed -- estimated approaching $400 billion. to foreign adversaries and competitors who, by legally obtaining a broad range of trade secrets, degraded our nation's advantage in innovative research and development in the global market. this immense loss threatens the security of our economy in preventing -- and preventing such loss prevents vigilance. the fbi is diligently working to apprehend targets against u.s. businesses, academic institutions, clear defense contractors and government agencies. it has made significant progress including some of the most egregiou

it's the fbi. people in there who are going to go in and know how to use the web and go really deep. >> you don't care about past drug use at all? >> the fbi is fighting crime so hard and people doing things illegal -- >> it's interesting. what if they worked in colorado or some place it is legal? >> you have to be that person that knows how to go in and get underneath the surface. these aren't people just googling, people who know how to go into the web and find these terrorist and drug organizations. i'm a more and want my children safe. i think the is an organization not to tiptoe around this. >> in other jobs i've had you have to succumb to a drug test and in some cases i've taken the drug test and other case is haven't. this could change the way corporations hire people. >> absolutely. if you go forward and look at someone who has taken drugs within a certain window, what does that say for people on the job? and if you release the standard, do you apply a different one, especially looking at d

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>> he retired from the fbi and was rehired as a consultant for the fbi. i don't know that michael malone destroyed 1800 cases. i have been able to collect 1800 cases or parts of files from 1800 cases in an attempt to determine if someone was hurt by something mike might have done. >> all right. fred whitehurst, thank you very much for your time. the latest appears on sunday at 9:00 on al jazeera america. >>> methods still being usedden, and white bread, we'll explain. and the man tasked, with l glory in the world cup, the controversy that continues to dog him. dog him. >> i'm joe berlinger this is the system people want to believe that the justice system works. people wanna believe that prosecutors and police do the right thing. i think every american needs to be concerned about that. we do have the best justice system in the world, in theory... the problem is, it's run by human beings... human beings make mistakes... i'd like to think of this show as a watch dog about the system... to make sure justice is being served. wrongful convictions happen, we nee

as a consultant for the fbi. the fbi. i don't know that michael malone i don't know that michael malone destroyed 1800 cases. destroyed 1800 cases. i have been able to collect 1800 i have been able to collect 1800 cases or parts of files from cases or parts of files from 1800 cases in an attempt to 1800 cases in an attempt to determine if someone was hurt by determine if someone was hurt by something mike might have done. something mike might have done. >> all >> all right. right. fred fred whitehurst, thank you very whitehurst, thank you very much for your time. much for your time. the latest appears on sunday at the latest appears on sunday at 9:00 on al jazeera 9:00 on al jazeera america. america. >>> methods still being >>> methods still being usedden, usedden, and white bread, we'll explain. and white bread, we'll explain. and the man and the man tasked, with l glory tasked, with l glory >> these protestors have decided >> these protestors have decided that today they will be that today they will be arrested

the other day i read the fbi was purchasing some malware. i am wondering what their role is in overseeing some of the intelligence gathering inside the united states. how do they oversee the fbi investigators offensive capabilities in the cyber area? >> i am not familiar with the specific report you are referring to. there are a couple of different roles. one would be if the fbi were applying before the foreign intelligence surveillance court, then before they could present as an application to the clerk, they would go through lawyers at the national security division to see that they made out the proper predicate and probable cause under the fisa act. similarly, if they were trying to use it through the criminal system -- who have worked with them on obtaining the proper permissions, a criminal court process. you have an oversight section that national security reviews. it reviews the use of national security authorities, so if they were attempting to use it, then it would be reviewed by applicable legal rules and predicates. >> yes, in the

. >> the fbi has received 4,000 reports of bombs... >> narrator: on september 12 at nsa headquarters, the mood was somber. >> where did it all begin? >> we began soul searching almost immediately. we all felt like a great wrong had been done and that we were all somewhat if not all culpable. >> a date that will live in infamy. >> you have to remember that nsa was created after world war ii to prevent another surprise attack. that was the whole raison d'etre for nsa: pearl harbor. we don't want another pearl harbor. >> more people involved in the plot remain in the united states... >> immediately we began to wonder what we had done wrong, why did we miss the boat, what didn't we detect that we should have detected? >> the investigation continues in this country... >> narrator: in the aftermath, troubling questions emerged from deep inside the agency. >> had lived for at least a year... >> narrator: why hadn't the nsa been able to connect the dots? >> it was a very cautious agency. it's an agency that is fighting with one hand tied behind its back out of fear of a political backlash by

. >>> sometimes humor is the hardest thing. ask fbi director. james comey. today his attempt at a joke about marijuana back fire and back fired big time. abc's senior justice correspondent now on the punch line gone wrong. >> reporter: the fbi has been known as the straight-laced just the facts lawmen depicted in the abc classic tv show. >> you're under arrest. >> reporter: if you smoked marijuana in the past three years, you need not apply to the fbi. but a bit of buzz has been created after director was asked on monday if the fbi would hire a computer wiz who smokes pot. in response, he said, i have to hire a great workforce to compete with the cyber criminals and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview. does that mean the fbi is considering a change in its pot policy? today the fbi said hold on and the director said those comments were partly ingest. >> i am determined not to lose my sense of humor. but unfortunately i was trying to be serious and funny. >> i am dead set against using marijuana. i don't want young people to use ma

does that mean the fbi is considering a change in the pot policy?id hold on and the fbi director said the comments were partly in jest. >> i'm determined not to lose my sense of humor, but unfortunately there i was trying trying to be both serious and funny. i'm absolutely dead set against using marijuana. i don't want young people to use marijuana. it is against the law. i did not say i'm going to change that ban.xd i said i have to grapple with the change in my workforce. >> reporter: some members of congress were not laughing, worried all the smoke may confuse young people. pierre thomas, abc news, washington. >> there you have it. i happen to understand that this was a joke. i don't think it is that big of a deal. it's pretty clear there's a policy in place and the director isn't all of a sudden going to change the policy because of a joke he made. >> yesterday we did a pot brownie story and i have a hard time wrapping my mind around two states in the union saying it is completely legal and you can't do it for three years and get an interview. s

would that be okay at the fbi? m really saying is that, if we can say that, yes, we can consume alcohol but you can't come into the office, you can't handle your duties if you are consuming alcohol. but if you're not consuming it and you have no part of your body that shows that you have been and not able to do your job, that's one thing. now, if marijuana fits into that other category and the same thing would occur, as much as i'm not for this, but logically i'm saying, well, if it fits with the other aspect, then it should fit with that. >> i hear you loud and clear now. let me play this for our viewers because apparently the fbi director clarified his statement. he was testifying before the senate judiciary committee. >> i was asked a question by a guy who said i have a great candidate for the fbi. his problem is he smoked marijuana within the last five years. i said i'm not going to discuss a particular case, but apply. i waxed philosophic and funny to say one of our challenges we face is getting a good workforc

when i was chief of staff to director muller at the fbi we undertook a transformation there to meet the same growing cyber threat. in 2011 we brought that approach to nsd. in late fall of 2011, ten years after 9/11, we established a review group to evaluate nsd's work on national security threats and chart out a plan for future threats. six months later, that team issued recommendations that shaped what nsd's national security cyber program looks like today. most significantly, in 2012, we graded and trained the national security cyber specialist network to focus on combatting cyber threats to the national security. this network known as niskas includes prosecutors from every united states attorney's office around the country along with experts from the computer crime and intellectual property section and attorneys from the different parts of nsd. we now have prosecutors nationwide to review intelligence and investigative files. the creation of the network was motivated by the desire to make a tangible impact on u.s. security efforts through criminal investigation and prosecution. by de

>> we don't know the nature of the work that he was engaged in with the fbi. it could be something that he was doing as an oakland police officer employee. >> reporter: mcfarlane had a troubled history as an oakland police officer. he was the focus of two police brutality lawsuits and four internal affairs investigations. the fbi meantime is not talking about macfarlane's hiring process but some here in oakland, some councilmembers are frustrated to find out public funds are being used to pay a disability pension to someone who has the ability to work. there was question about whether the payments would be cut off and they said there's still more investigation that needs to be done before any action is taken. alex savidge, ktvu channel 2 news. >> thank you. >>> police in morgan hill are searching for a man threatening people with a gun at two shopping centers. police say the man tried to steal a woman's purse in the parking lot of a target on cochran road last night. then held up employees at a nearby subway. news of the robbery left customers shaken. >> she's

there are 24/7 cyber command center, we combine the resources of the fbi and the ng idf allowing us toovide connectivity other centers in kick being chief among them, government agencies to fbi field offices, legal attaches and the private sector in the event of cyber event. as the committee as well where the frequency of cyber attacks on our nation's private sector and government networks have increased dramatically in the past decade and a it will grow exponentially but the fbi and a partners have that multiple recent invested successes against the threat and we are continuing to push ourselves to respond more rapidly to prevent attacks before they occur. on monday the western district of virginia unsealed an indictment naming five people of the people's republic of china on 31 proud counts including conspiring to commit computer fraud, hacking a computer without authorization and private financial gains damaging computers through transmission of code and command, activate identity theft, economic espionage and theft of trade seekers. each has prices into the expertise to conspiracy

the fbi is going to put task forces throughout the country. now that people are trying to build this criminal option as one of the options when look at the information that they are gathering, i believe they can and will bring additional cases. these are hard cases to bring that are technically complex. they cross national boundaries. it's always going to be difficult. now that people are working it, i believe they can and will bring additional prosecutions. they are going to follow the facts and the evidence where they lead and respond to the crimes that they see. it's by no means a strategy aimed at if i particular country. it's aimed at the crime and then following back the crime to see who committed it and the focus is on economic theft of the unit. those are the type of charges you may see in the future. >> i want to talk about one difficulty, complexity of this type of case that doesn't arise in a lot of other cases where you are primarily looking at witness interviews. you refer to the warm body in back of the keyboard. i know in a lot

the fbi ought to be involved. and the director of the fbi told me this morning and the testimony he offered at the judiciary committee that if there is falsification of records, destruction of documents, there's more than ample predicate for the fbi to be involved in the criminal investigation. >> because that clearly could be criminal. did you get a commitment from the director of the fbi that they would launch a criminal investigation into these allegations? i ask you the question because you speak not only as the united states senator but a former attorney general in the state of connecticut. >> as a former federal prosecutor, i can tell you right now, my belief is that the allegations of criminal wrongdoing, which include falsification of records, manipulation of documents, obstruction and possibly obfuscation in connection with this investigation are pretty incredible allegations that deserve criminal investigation. now, he said to me that he would be invoflved if he was asked by the inspector general. the in

it was the fbi. at the same time, i don't think you do anybody a favor when you say move on.org is the reason she didn't. move on.org at any given time and i'm not a big fan but they have about a thousand petitions there. they don't put them up. the petition you're referencing is put up by somebody a couple years ago, 100 people signed it. >> they were petitions -- but you admitted and acknowledged they didn't listen to the fbi. >> we have a navy s.e.a.l. here in the audience. >> don't put it on moveon.org. >> about the hashtag, how many people think that campaign is effective? >> all right -- >> you brought your own hashtag? >> as an entertainment reporter i can say a lot of people, especially the younger generation, my mother, grandmother, they get their news on twitter with smart phones and your blackberries, too, and a lot of people maybe who didn't know what was going on learned about it by seeing this hashtag and although people are criticizing michelle obama and celebrities for tweeting about t

predicted the killer woos anti-social and learned a pea low average income. >> the fbi came in and said we are looking for somebody in the sing single, white. i know that there's been some confusion about that. i know what he was written and in the paper. it simply wasn't there. >> nevertheless, the local police obtained dna samples from over 1,000 men, most of them white between the ages of 20 and 40. most of them ahad a history of criminal activity. not one of them was a match. >> that's where mol anning lar biologist came in with a warning that eyewitnesss and behavioral profiles are not always right. >> that time of information is faulty wrong. sometimes people lie or they are mistaken. >> so the doctor made an offer saying he would perform a brand new dna test and promise he could identify the killer's physical characteristics. >> to be honest, i really didn't believe. he purported that he could determine the race of folks from dna. i said there's no way in the world i can do that. >> this type of dna ascertains the coming from a common gene pool. instead of measuring the pigm

the fbi refused to identify the agent but it turns out he is the same ex-oakland cop collecting $52,000 a year on disability tax-free. >> i think they should investigate. >> what do you think? >> i think we ought to hang him. >> reporter: a boston newspaper traced agent mcfarland's routes to california where he collected a half million dollars from calpers since breaking his ankle on the job 10 years ago. an oakland city councilman says possible fraud is hard to enforce. >> you know, oakland doesn't have the capacity to be enforcing following up so it's not only a police issue, you know, it's over employees take advantage of the system. >> reporter: and there's more. mcfarland left oakland with a violent track record testifying in the infamous riders police abuse trial and then was sued for abuse himself twice. attorney ben rosenfeld brought one of those cases against him and wonders how the fbi let mcfarland slip through its rigorous physical and background checks. >> why the fbi as a premier law enforcement agency in the country has to reach that low into the barrel for recruits among

the fbi director, find out what he said about marijuana use that drew the ire of one senator. on climate change has the community a little upset. >>> the fbi director had some explaining to do wednesday on capitol hill. james clooney told a committee he was not advocating marijuana use. he said some people wanted to smoke weed on the way to the interview. >> i was very disappointed on "the wall street journal" article may 20th in which you seem to make light of marijuana use by those who would like to work for the fbi. you say, i have to hire a great work force to compete with the cyber criminals and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview. you say you've got to loosen up your no tolerance policy, which is haven't used marijuana in three years. that will be interpreted as one more example of leadership in america dismissing the seriousness of marijuana use. >> i am determined not to use my sense of humor. unfortunately there i was trying to be serious and funny. we have a three year ban. i did not say i'm going to change my ban, i said i have to grapp

reports the fbi's golfing champ phil mickelson, billion air karl ikon and we'll have the latest. veterans affairs secretary eric shinseki gone. >>> now this former fugitive tells us the secrets that made him an infamous cyber-attacker. ♪ greatest joy you'll ever learn ♪ >> plus an improvised life. kurt elling stops by. why he's considered one of the top jazz vocalists of his generation. >> we begin tonight with a developing story involving one of the richest men in the world and biggest name in sports. according to reuters, the fbi and sec, are investigating insider trading.between karl ikon and phil miblgson. alsmickelson. the securities and exchange commission is looking into whether mickelson and walters may have, traded on ikon's bid to buy clorox. said he has never die you vulgdd insider trading. ariva what is insider trading? >> quite simply, using insider information to buy and sell stock. if you're corporate officer or director and you get information that something's going ohappen to your company either good or bad and you trade on that information or you provide that in

the fbi director told me, he has evidence they did it. if they ever leave china, they better be look, over their shoulder. >> thank you so much, pierre. >>> a big headline about the hamburgers we all buy at restaurants across america. a major recall, 1.8 million pounds of ground beef because of e coli. abc chief medical cal director dr. richard besser on what you should do the next time you order a burger. >> reporter: it is the strain of e. coli that worries health experts the most. and tonight, it's believed to be in ground beef in restaurants across the nation. beyond making you sick to your stomach -- >> this is an infection that can be followed by an illness with bleeding and kidney failure that can be fatal. >> reporter: tonight, those 1.8 million pounds of the beef recalled. all of it from wolvering packing company in detroit. so far, 11 people have been sickened across four states. biggest threat on the menu? hamburgers. that's because americans often eat them medium rare and rare. not cooked through sufficiently to kill e coli on

and i remember thinking my grandfather who worked for the fbi at the time was in the pentagon when the plane hit it. i take the threat of terrorism seriously, and i think we all do, and i think it's really

>> the fbi is lending its crime lab. the atf is on the scene.ying to see if they can trace the gun. and what they would be doing is try to figure out where the suspect would have gotten the gun. we don't know much more about that right now. it is something that i'm sure the officers on the scene and justice department officials on the scene are trying to figure out. obviously, according to the sheriff's office, there was some premeditation to this. the suspect appeared to be just going through isla vista and shooting at the crowds of people gathered there. right now, they are trying to figure out what would have drove him to do this. going through his tv records and computer records and doing any searches at his house. the key part here is the gun. try to figure out where he got this. >> so, evan, the sheriff said we are analyzing written and videotaped evidence that suggest the atrocity was a premeditated mass murder. do we know specifically what they are looking at and what has caught their attention? >> one thing they are looking at is the vi

the question is what is the fbi really looking into? eriff and others who have been up there said that these folks in the militia were pointing guns at federal officers. you cannot do that. that is a crime. whether they're going to be able to get definitive evidence or be able to arrest people who are no longer there, probably i fear, joy, i don't know. i don't think there are checkpoints now inside town, but people there are living in fear, i think, because these folks come from the ranch, come into town to get supplies. they're carrying weaponry. they go into restaurants. it's got to be unsettling for them, right? >> is this like civilian marshall law? it's -- creepy is the word for it. speaking of, you know, could anyone be arrested, one of the groups that seem to be there operating near the bundy ranch is the old keepers, and i want to show you what mother jones wrote about them in 2010. "there are scores of patriot groups, but what makes oath keepers unique is its core membership consist of men and women in uniform, including soldie

i roncally, in the fbi lab that tested the dna. rather than acknowledge that they made a mistake and stop the kay, the prosecution not wanting to admit it made a mistake elicited fraud on the part of the medical examiner and wrongfully convicted me. >> some people might look at you and say this is the exception, a rare case, this doesn't happen all the time. are you the outlier? >> absolutely not. my evidence for that is there has been 314 dna proven wrongful convictions when you factor in non-dna, they start to get into the thousands. last year, 87 people were exonerated in the u.s. and were already on pace this year to en beat that. so, no, it's not an aberration. >> we asked our community, there is all of these flaws in the prison system. how do we fix it? strange bed fellow tweets better funding for crime labs, improved training for, forensic scientists, so fred, you are the whistleblower. you had to pay the price for telling the truth. you have heard some of these suggestions for improvements from strange bed fellow. how can w

it's the people who gave her the advice, the fbi, that told her not to label them as a terrorist group. moveon.org at any given time, they have about a thousand petitions there. they don't put them up. other people do. the petition you're referencing was put up by someone a couple years ago. 100 people signed it. >> but you even admitted and acknowledged they didn't listen to the fbi. >> hillary was wrong. don't put it on moveon.org because it's silly. >> how many people think the hash tag campaign is effective? >> so as an entertainment reporter, this is what i can say. a lot of people, especially the younger generation, my mother, my grandmother, they get their news on twitter with your smartphones, your blackberries too. a lot of people who didn't know what was going on have learned about it by seeing this hash tag. even though a lot of people are criticizing michelle obama and celebrities for tweeting this, then maybe a 15, 16-year-old is going to click on that link and then learn about it. it is all about bringing awareness. i don't see what's wrong with that. >> i think it makes

he somehow got into the fbi. e was just 31 in 2004 when he retired from the oakland police force for medical reasons. he's been since collecting $52,000 a year. he was also zd to testify in -- asked to testify in the oakland riders trial of police corruption but exercised his fifth amendment right. the boston global reports he is the subject of two police brutality cases and four internal affairs investigations. the reason the boston globe is following the case is because his controversial case came to light after an interrogation in orlando, florida. that's when macfarland was identified as the fbi agent who shot and killed a friend of the suspected boston marathon bomber. that incident caught the attention of the oakland police department. so far, the fbi has declined to comment about mcfarland and the pension he's receiving from oakland. but tells the globe that mcfarland is a hero whose quick thinking in the boston marathon incident may have saved the life of a trooper. we have calls in and we'll be following

." >>> a top senate democrat wants the fbi involved in the v.a. investigation. republicans press president obama to live up to his promises about veterans while his veterans secretary takes the hot seat on capitol hill. this is "special report." good evening, i'm bret baier. few issues can deeply divide republicans and departments like veterans care. both part eighties took care trying to figure out what had is wrong with the way america treats its war heroes and how to fix it. ed henry is at the white house with the question of accountability for a president who has made big promises. we begin with chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel on capitol hill where the veterans secretary faced an unhappy group of lawmakers. >> lawmakers are calling for decisive action and not just another government report to solve a deadly problem. >> any allegation, any adverse incident like this makes me mad as hell. >> reporter: more than a month after the revelation that an estimated 40 veterans died for waiting for care at the v.a. facility in arizona, eric shinseki was

." >> the president certainly did not want a situation where the fbi director and the deputy attorney general would resign,

by that time, the fbi had withdrawn merrill's national security letter after an appeals court ruled it unconstitutional. >> i think that they were afraid that we would make it to the supreme court and they were not 100% certain that they would get the answer that they want. >> the fbi dropped its request, but what's interesting is that he's still not able to talk about exactly what they requested other than that it was information. and he says that if we knew what had been requested that we would be shocked. >> narrator: the big internet companies had different priorities. at the same time as the government was expanding its intelligence gathering, the companies were trying to find out as much as possible about their users, amassing huge data troves. the nsa was watching. >> these companies are in a very difficult spot because the types of activities they engage in is very similar to surveillance. it is surveillance, just for advertising rather than for law enforcement. the private sector is where the whole game is. >> i remember i was talking to someone at google and i was like, "you