now what did the fbi do? citizen bandt what was being used for walkie-talkies, and they use that citizen band to supply the marshals with misinformation and pretending to be a unit of the national mobilization to in the war in vietnam countermanded those orders issued by the movement. 1967 there was a rally in , washington protesting the vietnam war. a newspaper in new york city indicated that its contribution to this rally was to be the symbolic act of dropping flowers on the pentagon. ad in theper put an newspaper asking for pilot who can help them do that. the fbi answered the ad and kept up the pretense that it was a genuine parts pilot of to the point when the publisher of the newspaper showed up with 200 pounds of flowers and no one was there to fly the plane. dramatic testimony today involve the surveillance of martin luther king. dramatic efforts were described in detail to destroy king and turn his followers against him. even to find another idle for black americans. martin luther king was and is a na

fbi, he isnt is, the convinced, the fbi is involved. he sees the evidence provided by members of the committee staff. he says we must respond, we must emit -- educate the american public to the extent of which these programs file it a constitutional protections, and we as lawmakers, members of congress, will have to respond with legislation to correct and prevent the abuses from occurring in the future. >> did they respond and make legislation that changed things? yes and no. their ultimate goal of establishing an fbi charter, a legal framework that would provide the parameters for which the fbi could operate, that was never approved by congress. it was considered for many years, but it was never finally approved. the scrutiny of being -- of the fbi and the fact that j edgar hoover passed away in 1972, uniqued a sort of opportunity for a new attorney general, edward leavy, to institute internal reform. he did that with a series of up -- processes known as the attorney general guidelines. the criticism of those were that they addressed th

sullivan, the fbi had 5500 special agents. out of that number, 5500, you only have five negro agents? mr. sullivan again, we did not say in the memorandum that none of them conducted investigations. they were just drivers. this was 1961. is it any wonder that the fbi was later presumptuous enough to feel that it could determine the new national negro leader. part of the problem is, they attempted to translate the tactics used first against the communist party, against virtually every perceived enemy, as the bureau looked across the landscape i decided who should be neutralized, discredited, or destroyed. >> the bureau was set up as a crime-fighting agency, but in 19 39, in a directed by president roosevelt, it assumed a new task of seeing that the country's internal security was maintained in the face of a glowing -- a growing threat from fascism and communism. >> in 1939, the fbi had been established an index called the security index. it was a list of individuals, aliens and citizens, i am now quoting, on whom there is inform

>> for the fbi. >> and who was he informing about? >> on the vietnam veterans against the war winter soldier organization. he took me to a meeting. we discussed in more detail how he felt about being an informant, why he did it. when i said i would be open to talking about being an informant with the fbi he set up a meeting and fbi came to my house to discuss it with me. >> what was the nature of that discussion? what were you asked, if anything, to do? >> major understanding that i got from the meeting was that it was an organization primarily of veterans who were possible victims of manipulation. they had been through the vietnam war. they had legitimate readjustment needs and the bureau was afraid that they could become violent, could become manipulated and they wanted me to go in there, participate in the organization and make sure that the veterans didn't get quote/unquote ripped off. they used words like be a voice of reason, be a big sister, be sort of a guiding force in the organization and keep things calm, cool and collected.

and the fbi allowed a beating to go on. they did not have to do that by the way to keep this guys anonymity protected. to theuld have said -- birmingham police, you simply cannot allow the beating of these freedom riders. then, there are public policy -- policy point after developing those facts was to make some suggestions for improvement in how the fbi would authorize and then manage informants. >> elliot maxwell, this hearing was chaired by the republican senator john tower. we have not had a chance to talk too much about him. you worked for a senator on the republican side. could you speak about john tower? that johnbelief is tower was picked as the vice possible bulwark against a much more liberal frank church and where he might take the committee. tower wasle, i think reasonably supportive of the work. i think that was an important part of why it was able to move forward. andid not take obstructionist view of the committee. - as i said earlier, there was a great range of our ideological opinions on the republican side.

talk generally about what you remember about the fbi's concerns about the protesters? ey believed fbi protesters were communist agents, and in that connection, lyndon johnson pushed them very investigate the people who were against the war. the bureau probably would have done it anyway, but johnson was a force that was pushing the bureau to do that. they wered communists, or he said he believed they were communists, and of course they weren't. it certainly went well beyond johnson, into the nixon era. i do get is a lesson for us today, it is pretty easy to go -- i think it is a lesson for us today, it is pretty easy to go from people who oppose your policy -- to people you think may be dangerous, to the people who oppose your policy, to everybody. and this was not limited to johnson, or nexen, but all presidents who tried to push their executive power in this area of intelligence gathering, back to fdr. frederick: and it is the fact of death elliot: it is the fact of's -- elliot: it is the fact of secrecy that allowed that to happen. this secret exercise of power is inc

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at the fbi typical early investigation is to declare the fbi database to see what they know. they do not distinguish between u.s. persons and others because nationalities is normally irrelevant to a criminal investigation. if it contains a subset of the information collected under 702, though none of the data collected upstream so none of the about communication that mre the database along with other databases, even if the crime be investigated is not related national security. however, it is a extremely unlikely that a query in a non-national security will hit on 702 data. someone suggested requiring. someone suggested recording the fbi to get court approval before collecting an investigation of a non-national security crime. the board to not recommend this approach and i think it would be a mistake. if the interest of time i'll mention a few reasons why. require an additional approval would be a step toward redirecting the share while that the government has worked so hard to tear down since 911. investigator looking into non-national security crime it would likely not expec

i think the fbi should be able to as well. and just one quick point i was hoping to get in when senator whitehouse was talking about the incidental collection idea. there is a very important distinction between the cases that have upheld the incidental collection of people who are in communications with a target and what we're seeing with section 702. in those cases under title iii, criminal warrants, there was not only strict minimization procedures which was mentioned but there was also a warrant in the beginning to target the original suspect. and the courts have emphasized the important of that warrant on the front end. that provides protection for people in contact with the target and narrows the pool of people who can be collected on. >> let me ask two more. thank you for that addition. let me ask two more questions if i might. first if you'd answer this. and mr. wainstein as well. given section 702 was adopted for foreign intelligence and national security purposes, do you have any concerns about whether it's appropriate

i think the fbi should be able to as well. and just one quick point i was hoping to get in when senator whitehouse was talking about the incidental collection idea. there is a very important distinction between the cases that have upheld the incidental collection of people who are in communications with a target and what we're seeing with section 702. in those cases under title three, criminal warrants, there was not only strict minimization procedures which was mentioned but there was also a warrant in the beginning to target the original suspect. and the courts have emphasized the important of that warrant on the front end. that provides protection for people in contact with the target and narrows the pool of people who can be collected on. >> thank you for that. let me ask two more questions if i might. first if you'd answer this. given section 702 was adopted for foreign intelligence and national security ppurposes, do you have have any concerns about whether it's important to be used for domestic law enforcement purposes?

at the fbi typical early investigation is to declare the fbi database to see what they know. they do not distinguish between u.s. persons and others because nationalities is normally irrelevant to a criminal investigation. if it contains a subset of the information collected under 702, though none of the data collected upstream so none of the about communication that mre the database along with other databases, even if the crime be investigated is not related national security. however, it is a extremely unlikely that a query in a non-national security will hit on 702 data. someone suggested requiring. someone suggested recording the fbi to get court approval before collecting an investigation of a non-national security crime. the board to not recommend this approach and i think it would be a mistake. if the interest of time i'll mention a few reasons why. require an additional approval would be a step toward redirecting the share while that the government has worked so hard to tear down since 911. investigator looking into non-national security crime it would likely not expec

so, i am focused on the different of the fbi, so from the defense of the fbi perspective, and also, im the defense of the entire country at that level, what we are really facing is a lot of varied threats to the security of our information that come from a variety of sources from activists and random people that are interested in doing damage to our infrastructure, and also going to nationstates and people that want to do damage to us. and looking at a cross-the-threat landscapes is a challenging effort and it requires whole of government and all of -- industry. one of the pieces i want to emphasize is this is a team sport, and we are all in this together, and it requires all of us to look diligently at cyber security, across the entire landscape, and say what is it we can work together to improve here? shery: does this complicate things for you because allshery: all of this huge expansion in the internet of things, the cloud, all the public wi-fi out there? ms. hart: right. shery: how safe are we? ms. hart: that is an interesting question because the answer to how safe we are depends

report, rather today, i mean, it's not the fbi report. but it certain solid unflattering, accusing her of not cooperating. that's not a good sign. >> no. it actually shows that many assertions she has made about the email story are not true. and there is an email captured in there between her and uma abedin where she says that as you mentioned before earlier in the show she doesn't want herself accessible. this goes to the thinking that she actually created a private server on which to store government documents that belong to you and me and the rest of the taxpayers and subsequently deleted possibly some of them. now, forget the security concerns. she is not allow to do do that what the ig report said today is she was never allowed. she didn't ask. if she had asked, she would have been denied it that's bad for her in terms of what the fbi is working on right now. >> is this sort of a snapshot? this she is going to get the nomination and is she going to rise above and this is all of this going to be meaningless? >> i think something was re

but the fbi will look where the fbi wants to look. deirdre: you alluded to some dots you were not able to connect as they would at least stand up in a court of law. what do you think at this point, completely conjecture what do you think the fbi and u.s. doj will find? >> yes. this is speculation on my part. i think what they are looking at is a very pimple question. was there pay to play? were the clintons taking money and giving favors in return to those done e donors. in the state of virginia the predecessor of terry mcauliffe is in jail precisely doing that, getting $170,000 in gifts he was entitled to get, but the charge and conviction he did favors in response to the gifts. senator menendez is prosecuted on similar allegations. in neither cases was there a smoking gun, an email said we'll give you this money and you do this in return. i don't think you will find that in the mcauliffe case but if you find the same pattern as you do in those instances, and i think it exists, it behooves the fbi to investigate this and offer a crim

now one major step still left is for the fbi to interview secretary clinton. that is expected to happen in the next couple of weeks. so far, u.s. officials tell us that investigators have not found evidence showing clinton willfully violated the law. it is clear the investigators believe the private server set up was not a proper way to store sensitive government information, but doesn't bring a threshold for charges. this is still an investigation. once the fbi has done its work, the attorney general will have final say whether to bring charges in the case. >> thank you. hillary clinton blasting trump at the rally last night in california. in front of the largely hispanic audience, clinton doubled down on his promise to build a wall along the border with mexico and deport illegal immigrants. hillary clinton is urging bernie sanders to quit the race. sanders telling npr he is not dropping out anytime soon. >> i knew he had won because it matters how many delegates you have. whether it is 60 or 300. right? so, i withdrew. i endorsed him. >> i knew this. that wha

clinton's explanation and security inquiry is unknown to the fbi director. ng to be tethered to a time line. he wants it done well rather than promptly and also on isis and homicides in this country. >> a lot of pressure on the shoulders of the head of the fbi. catherine herridge, thank you. >>> a series of dangerous storms pummelling the country. in kentucky, a tornado touching down in a car dealership. ten people were injured and then in texas, torrential rains giving away to flash flooding and powerful winds ripped trees. and parts of that state bracing for severe weather. rick, how are things looking? >> meteorologist: it is the peek of tornado season in may and we'll see more activity and along with that tornado comes wind, hail and rain. we had so much flood nothing texas. this is the last 24 hours. yesterday's tornados. it was not there in areas of nebraska as well. this is the last 24 hours of the radar loop. we'll see the next batch move in here in areas of missouri and illinois. we have severe weather approaching st. louis right now. we have a sever

the fbi has reached into the clinton inner circle as part of the e-mail server. cluding huma abedein has sat down for questions at an fbi building a few blocks from where i'm sitting. this is an important stage of the probe because it signals that the investigation could soon be completed. now one major step still left is for the fbi to interview secretary clinton and that is expected to happen in the next couple weeks. so far, u.s. officials tell us that investigators have not found evidence showing clinton willfully violated the law. it is clear investigators believe the private server set up is not the proper way to store government sensitive information, but is not the threshold to bring charges. this is still an ongoing investigation and once the fbi has done its work, it will turnover the work to the justice department and attorney general loretta lynch will have the final say in charges in the case. >>> thank you, evan. helping us to break down the political action is tal kopan in the washington bureau. i have to tell you there is the rift and soul searchin

who won't say whether the fbi has questioned him. uses the same language. >> my understanding is this is a security review, certainly not a criminal investigation. >> it's an investigation. >> it's an inquiry into whether or not anyone put classified information where it shunts be. >> fox news asked director comey whether clinton and her aides would receive the same scrutiny as other government employees who receive security clearances. >> comey said he didn't want to comment on the clinton case and added there are no special rules for anybody under an fbi investigation. >>> up next, donald trump and republican lawmakers get ready for their close-up. here's what some fox affiliates around the country are covering. fox 21, greenville, south carolina, for new charges against a former north charleston police officer, michael slaying certificate facing a state murder charge in the death of an unarmed black motorist walter scott 13 months ago. new federal charges include violating scott's civil rights and obstruction of justice. >>> fox 4

host: do you have faith in the fbi director? guest: i think the interest is the national security establishment bureaucratically that wants mrs. clinton indicted so the fbi is probably going to be interested in doing that. the fbi is too often immune from criticism here in washington d.c. i do not believe that it is immune from criticism. in the irs case it was implicated in that scandal because they were involved with lois lerner. the fbi was not a disinterested party so they're doing the irs investigation and surprise, surprise, no criminal charges arise out of it. in this case, i don't think they've got that conflict, so maybe they'll do a better job. the fbi should be subject to the same scrutiny as any other federal agency. host: all right. we have sue from gothersberg, maryland. caller: i'm not sure people really understand the importance of what foia is. >> there are amazing amounts of information that they wouldn't have. i encourage folks to write a check to judicial watch because you're writing a check to save the countr

with the fbi, mr. hoover would have had a stroke if you did not know that the cia had operation chaos going on. the last thing the cia have done is disclosed to the bureau that they were working on their turf. i think interagency jealousies had part to do with it. the second thing, if you have a program going and are happy with its results, why take the risk that it might be turned off if the president decides she doesn't want you to do it? -- decides he doesn't want you to do it? they had no idea what decision the president might make. why should the cia run the risk that the president might say no? if they had admitted it, they would have to close the thing down. even the justice department did not know about it. it seems to me many of these agencies operated in their own world. they had their own programs going. they did not want anyone else to know it. i always have the illusion that the purpose of intelligence was provide policy makers with information to make policy. but policymakers don't even kn

that's what happened with the fbi. the attorney general came out with a series of attorney general guidelines to guide the fbi and prevent it from engaging in abuses in the future. the cia was engaging this this process before the church committee as the family jewels report suggests. they were reviewing their activity. i think that the cia did not -- the legislative charter for the cia was never approved for a variety of reasons. so the legislative portion of those reviews never reached fruition. there were a number of internal reviews and internal changes that took place as a result of the church committee inquiry and later the and that person has to report to kblg about what it finds about what he or she finds to be the problem internally. >> kate scott, thank you. >> thank you. >> our coverage, 40 years later continues. this is american history tv only on c-span 3. >> 40 years ago they created a committee to look into the u.s. intelligence services. they had a long title. the senate select committee with respect to

what will the fbi get by interviewing abdin. she used a e-mail on the server and may voice serious concern of how to circumvent the law. and that could be a question. she and others were questioned likely about the 2200 classified documents on that system and not to mention 22 top secret materials. how did they end up on the unauthorized server and didn't you know they were classified and by the way, who made the decision to erase the markings and delete thousands of the e-mails and ordered this thing to be wiped clean. and these people could be in legal jeopardy, not to mention clint clinton. >> sources say there is no evidence that the former secretary of state intended to violate the you law. if that is the case, is she potentially still in trouble? we'll get into that after this. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. romania understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of

brewed server, one by the way conducted reportedly by over 100 fbi agents -- fbi director jim comey ys, security inquiry? i don't know that term. we investigate crimes. this is a law enforcement proceeding. i told you guys that three months ago. now, the cynics among you may say it's all political. but jim comey is appointed by barack obama. and he is one of the most clear-headed brilliant logical and honorable people in washington, d.c. a trait somewhat foreign to that town. and don't give me that woman thing where oh, it's time for a female president. yeah, it is. but not her. what makes you think that electing this woman who spent most of her career riding her husband's coattails is necessarily a good thing? doesn't it depend on the individual, man or woman? and for those of you who think the woman will automatically help other women, consider this -- the clinton foundation, an organization of which the clintons have control pays female employees 38 cents less per dollar than males. so much for that old pay inequality thing. supporting women? hillary made her bones creating the at

call 888-429-5722 now. >>> hillary clinton could soon be one on one with the fbi. ady sat down with clinton's aide, humana abedin regarding the democratic be presidential front-runner's private e-mail server. clinton long said she would be more than happy to sit down with agents to clear the air. we have the very latest. any idea on actually if or when this will really happen? >> we don't know if the interview will definitively happen for certain but we believe it's headed in that direction. we don't know when that will be. that's what law enforcement sources tell us, this investigation is progressing and that that is where it will likely conclude. fox news has learned that hillary clinton's long-time aide humana abedin recently met with the fbi to answer questions about clinton's use of a private e-mail server while secretary of state and whether classified information was willfully transmitted on an unsecured network. the fbi's interview of abedin who is part of clinton's innermost circle is a possible indication the investigation might be in its final stages wher

who won't say whether the fbi has questioned him. uses the same language. >> my understanding is this is a security review, certainly not a criminal investigation. >> it's an investigation. >> it's an inquiry into whether or not anyone put classified information where it shunts be. >> fox news asked director comey whether clinton and her aides would receive the same scrutiny as other government employees who receive security clearances. >> comey said he didn't want to comment on the clinton case and added there are no special rules for anybody under an fbi investigation. >>> up next, donald trump and republican lawmakers get ready for their close-up. here's what some fox affiliates around the country are covering. fox 21, greenville, south carolina, for new charges against a former north charleston police officer, michael slaying certificate facing a state murder charge in the death of an unarmed black motorist walter scott 13 months ago. new federal charges include violating scott's civil rights and obstruction of justice. >>> fox 4

the fbi has not reported it. investigations happen. we know, we have no reason to believe that the clinton foundation is a target of anything. the associated press report this is not related to a federal investigation of hillary clinton's private e-mail server. let's bring in judge andrew napolitano. what are sources telling you about this leak? >> that terry's name has come up in the investigation of whether or not mrs. clinton when secretary of state did favors for foreign governments and foreign persons in return for contributions to the clinton foundation. this is a separate investigation from the e-mail investigation. it's an entirely different team of fbi agents and federal prosecutors. in fairness, he's a very wealthy man. he's a very shrewd and serious and long time political player. he knows what is lawful and not lawful political contribution. it's hard to believe he would have stumbled over this. yet, it's also curious that the fbi has subpoenaed his irs reports as well as his campaign contributions. is this chinese national

are you in the fbi? >> when he was asked about what did you find, it's all incorrect. >> breaking in is the crime. just the fact that he hacked in. >> there's no evidence he actually did it. >> he posted stuff online. >> which was inaccurate. he got stuff from blumenthal. did he break into hillary clinton's? >> how did he get it? >> i said it was -- >> blumenthal is a different. >> why is he talking to the fbi about it? >> he's a criminal. >> about this specific situation. i guess he wants, he's hoping he can has got something to get him out of trouble. >> i think part of the reason why the story is treated lightly like this. even though the "times" broke it whenever something becomes at fox news, it gets the fox news story syndrome. where it's like we can't do that story, because fox news is doing it. this is always the case. with, look at benghazi. benghazi was treated like a joke on comedy central, msnbc. because we, we pushed that story because we believed something horrible happened. >> and the borde

breaking this morning to report in the hillary clinton email scandal the fbi has interviewed clinton top aides, we have the latest developments. nicole: investors anxiously await the april jobs report due out this morning and could determine the direction of interest rates going forward. let's check out stock market futures, dow futures very much wait and see mode, down 5, the s&p is virtually flat down a 12:45 point. nicole: investors in japan returning from a three day holiday and still selling. the nikkei index sliding a quarter a 12:45%. in china the shanghai composite sliding 2.7%. lauren: after two days of gains let's check oil, $44.27 down 0.1%. nicole: the raging fire in canada burning an area the size of new york city as canadian officials begin airlifting people to safety. lauren: the shares rocket after charlie gasparino reported the government is close to ending its investigation. nicole: a triple overtime thriller in the hockey playoffs, the game ended a few hours ago. find out who came out on top at the kentucky derby. we have the odds on favorite to win. nicole: it is 5

the fbi is investigating him. mp were smart, he would talk about the tactics, he would talk about the details of the legal matter, rather than painting it in one broad stroke. it doesn't do well democrats or independents. the swing voters he needs to get and she needs to get. >> let's talk about that strategy, alan. in a general election matchup, what does clinton need to focus on to beat donald trump? >> well, she might want to focus on the fact that he's going to be standing trial for fraud for trump university. here you have a guy -- >> come on, alan. >> true. >> it's true. >> what do you mean? it's true. he's going to be defending himself taking the witness stand in a trial where he's been accused of defrauding people. >> first of all, alan, that's great. you're going to bring up a business dispute. hillary clinton's issue is that while secretary of state she exposed national secrets. >> there's no evidence of that. >> no evidence of that. >> there's no evidence but obviously that's being investigated. >> no. y

queries by the fbi i'd like to address that for a moment. the databases to see what the fbi already knows. these queries do not distinguish between u.s. persons and others because nationality is normally irrelevant to a criminal investigation. one of the fbi's databases contains subset under section 702 though none of the data directed upstream, so none of the about communications mr. medine references. may include this database with other databases even if the crime being investigated does not relate to national security. however, it is extremely unlikely that an fbi query in nonnational security investigation will hit on 702 data. some suggested requiring fbi to get court approval before conducting query of 702 information ended investigation of nonnational security crime. the board did not recommend this approach, and i think it would be a mistake. in the interest of time, i'll mention just one of several reasons why. requiring judicial approval for fbi queries would be a step toward reerecting the wall they have worked to break down since

the fbi when you were in romania? >> i had 2014 in march. >> clinton aide huma abedin have been interviewed as part of the investigation. the source would not speak on the record about the probe but said she was questioned. under the espionage act, intent is not required. mrs. clinton addressed some of the issues. >> have you been contacted boo ithe fbi to set up an interview? >> no. >> no contact there? >> no. >> any indication your private server was hacked by foreign hackers? >> no, not at all. >> the clinton campaign said in a statement today she is encouraging her aides to answer questions though there was no reference to the fbi or her i.t. manager who struck an immunity deal and took the fifth of capitol hill. >>> thank you there was a disappointing jobs report today. the u.s. adding 160,000 jobs in april. the fewest in seven months. that keeps the unemployment rate the same at 5%. where it's been since last fall. president obama acknowledged the economic head winds today. >> the unemployment rate has been growi

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the fbi said on tuesday at 2:30 he held up the branch on spring garden.e wore a puffy coat, blue jeans, a baseball cap. >> have weapons been displayed in any of these jobs? >> they have not. have been verbal demands and demand notes. >> reporter: and you couldn't miss this guy in the bright yellow jacket with a stripe across the chest. authorities say on april 29th, he held up the pnc branch at 1849 walnut. and last but not least, there's this guy. i guess you could say he's camera shy. the fbi is seeking him in connection with a holdup at the citizens branch at 123 chestnut. white male in his 30s wearing a red jacket and blue jeans. authorities say there have been eight bank robberies since april 29th being committed by at least four men and they believe the men are taking advantage of the rainy weather knowing the police response is going to be delayed and they can change the wardrobe up a bit. >> after the bank robbers are able to put on jackets and put on clothes to blend in with public and majority of these robberies are here in the center city distr

on facts and evidence, not anecdotes. >> we have the spectacle of the fbi director twice in six months, before the national press, making assertions about crime and incidences of crime, that are in the view of the white house not based on facts or evidence, but on anecdotes. and doing so in a very public way. so the resulting question is, why this doesn't shake your confidence in the fbi director? >> well i think in part because the fbi director actually made clear that he didn't know exactly what was going on, either. he said why does dallas see a dramatic spike and houston doesn't? >> the white house said crime level recent main at or near historic lows, but a recent analysis by the "washington post" found homicide in the country's 50 largest cities rising by 17%. with 36 of those cities seeing more homicide last year than they did in 2014. dog? >> james rosen. >>> stocks were mixed, the dow gained nine, the s&p 500 lost a third and the nasdaq was off 23. >> as brazil impeaches its president, a look at the global movement to weed out corruption from public life. >>> brazil's senate h

the fbi cannot hack this. this is a security researcher named morgan, and he works on helping, you know, human rights defenders, and he's the one i talk to all the time now because it seems like the human rights of americans are under attack. boom. this is dan guido who wrote a really good paper, possibility capabilities of apple to help the fbi, and you could check that out later. boom. okay. that is -- okay. this is jonathan z. he basically wrote the book literally on hacking and securing iphones. these are people who have a lot of great things to say about this but i'm running out of time so i'm jumping quickly through these, okay? boom. this is geo, kind of known as tom cruise, kind of like criminally insane hacker who has hacked almost every iphone that came out except for the iphone 4 because he retired out of boredom. this is professor matthew green, and he's a crypto specialist from john hopkins. these are two security researchers who are always presenting new mobile phone problems and holes, right? i p

the law. live at fbi headquarters at sixth and arch is dann cuellar. dann? >> reporter: jim, the noticeable increase in holdups with an two-week period. authorities are hoping you can identify the culprits captured in surveillance pictures. the most recent heist was in pnc branch in center city on monday. this man in his late 40s to early 50s entered the bank, approached a teller demanding money. he then fled on foot. the fashion-minded thief was wearing a light gray hooded sweatshirt and sweat pants and he had matching sneakers to bring the look all together. he's believed to be the same man who held up the citizens branch on 151515 market on april 29th. then there's shady and shades. age 50ish. the fbi said on tuesday at 2:30 he held up the branch on spring garden. he wore a puffy coat, blue jeans, a baseball cap. >> have weapons been displayed in any of these jobs? >> they have not. have been verbal demands and demand notes. >> reporter: and you couldn't miss this guy in the bright yellow jacket with a stripe across the chest. authorities say on april 29th

charlie: the fbi's investigation continues. clinton said she would be willing to sit for an interview. the news also comes as bernie sanders closes in on hillary clinton's lead in california. joining us, a political reporter who focuses on clinton, and from washington, steven lee myers of the "times." let me begin with amy, where are we in day two of this story? amy: the clinton campaign faces a central challenge, her trust numbers. the latest new york times poll, 64% of registered voters said they do not trust hillary clinton, the same amount as donald trump. they are wondering, how do we overcome that? that challenge has collided with this new report that is in some ways very damning, and the most damning because it plays right into the narrative that donald trump is trying to craft of her, as not being trustworthy. as finding ways to get around the rules. charlie: steven lee myers, what do you think? steven: i think a lot of people are still digesting the report. the report is one of several coming. judicial watch, a conserva

how is clinton preparing for the impending fbi interview? >> well, look, the fact of the justice department conducting this review has been known to the public throughout this prim recon test, and the outcome has been that we see her having a 3 million vote lead over bernie sanders and the pledged delegates, she has a tremendous lead there as well. she has collected more votes during the process than donald trump as well. so i think that the public is factored this in. they've heard this. the details of this issue almost relentlessly over the last few month and they've concluded that what we've maintained is true. that there was no -- nothing inappropriate that took place here. we're confident indeed that the justice department will conclude the same when this process finally wraps up. >> but even, but brian, even if the legal cloud is lifted, doesn't this still present a political issue for the campaign? you know, investigators evan and i have spoke with have had constant frustration that it even needs to be investigated in the first place,

meeting with the fbi at least temporarily. what does that mean? it really underscores the tension, the intense tension between the fbi and cheryl mills. she's a key witness and a lot of the classified information, she and her attorney apparently objected to the questions about mills conversations with clinton about which emails to turn over to the state department and in turn the public. mills refused to answer questions on the attorney-client privilege which john, is so incredibly broad it could be invoked to cover about anything. it's often abused. as a way to cover up incriminating conduct which may or may not be the case here. for attorneys that wilkinson. she used to be a federal prosecutor with the department of justice. she prosecuted tim mcveigh in the oklahoma city bombing case so you might see wills is lawyered up big time and it's not just her. other clinton aid have been interviewed by the fbi who have an impact with kennedy, jake sullivan, of course brian gagliano who was given criminal immunity by the fed. they

charlie: the fbi's investigation continues. quentin said she would be willing to sit for an interview. the news also comes as bernie sanders closes in on hillary clinton's lead in california. reporters, a political who focuses on clinton, and from washington, david lee myers of the "times." let me begin with amy, where are we in day two of this story? faceshe clinton campaign a central challenge, her trust numbers. the latest new york times poll, 60 4% of registered voters said they do not trust hillary clinton, the same amount as donald trump. they are wondering, how do we overcome that? that challenge has collided with this new report that is in some ways very damning, and the most damning because it plays right into the narrative that donald trump is trying to craft of her, as not being trustworthy. charlie: steven lee myers, what do you think? i think a lot of people are still digesting the report. the report is one of several coming. a conservative watch group is doing depositions now, seeking more information about why she