written about science and health is work has appeared in the new york times magazine, new yorker, the atlantic, los angeles times, the financial times magazine, and mit technology review among other publications. and of course he is the author of the book which can see the title on your screen and you are able to order it. that is what we are talking about today. so welcome sam apple. sue and thank you for inviting me. a. patty: of course is wonderful to have you. i love your book edit raises i said, on social media, every dislike a novel. i was glued to it, it is all true. i am sure that you will talk as we go through about your work how you came up with the idea about writing this book. i connecting all of these thoughts. it is about the biochemist. biochemist otto warburg he was gay and jewish of living openly with his male partner nazi party in germany and hitler protected him. in hopes of curing cancer. but this is true. but there are many parts to this book. but i would like to start with biochemist otto warburg as you. his family dynamics. his early life rated let's start there and tell us about his family. sam: so his