flag. that was inspired by the united states flag. we see flying next to the carolina state capital is derived from the confederate battle flag and defenders say it represents southern heritage. opponents see it as a symbol of white supremacy and slavery. after the south surrender in 1865 confederate flags were destroyed or moth balled but not forgotten. they were revived as a political symbol when diplomats pressed for an end to oppression in the south. >> we'll win the lebsz and doubt date. >> when president harry truman desegregated the armed forces in 1948 and supported anti-lynching views, southern democrats aring or dixie-crats wrof the flag in descension. >>> richard russell - his supporters paraded around the arena waving the flag. when dixie crats nominated their president sales exploded and it was the symbol of segregation. in south carolina the confederate flag received new prominence in 1962 when it was raised over the state house in an act of defiance over the civil rights movement. >> not everyone in south carolina is sti

the flag had flown over the capitol dome for decades before that. our diane eastabrook is live in columbia this morning. diane, tell us what is happening there right now, and what the mood is. >> reporter: well stephanie there are several thousand people here right now, we estimate maybe between 5 and 7,000 people. everyone is waiting for the honor guard and the governor to come out of the state house and begin the ceremony. we were supposed to start at 10:00, these things sometimes run a little bit behind. we don't know a whole lot about the ceremony. we know the flag is going to be taken down. there will be no music, and then the flag will be transported by an armored vehicle to the south carolina confederate relics room and military museum. many different people here in the crowd. there are people from out of state, people we ran into from north carolina, people from atlanta. this is an historic event, so everyone here to witness that today. >> we know how contentious the debate was within the south carolina legislature, even there a sense of div

flag. he discusses the importance of each flag. this hour-long event was cohosted by the museum of the american revolution. >> is really exciting to be here. it started with an idea to talk about flag day and then we realized that in fact there were three flags being stored here and one in the collection of the museum of the american revolution, two that are the property of an anonymous, very generous owner and lender, who has consented to have them on display for this afternoon. so this is an extraordinary opportunity. i'm not sure there is anywhere else on the planet why you can stand in the room and be in the presence of three banners of liberty from the american revolution. so congratulations to all of you for not going to the beach this weekend or not mowing the grass in the hot weather and choosing to come and sit in the dark with me for about an hour. i would like to start actually with an exercise to get you to think about the role that flags play and the images you have in your mind's eye about the american revolution. and

now the next flag is known as the forster flag. it's composed of a red field. when you see it you see there are six white stripes on the one side and seven on the other all in told making 13 alternating red and white stripes. it is known as the forster flag, as these flags often are are, because of family descent or family tradition. so this flag was originally owned by samuel forster started in 1775. it's traditionally said to have been the standard carried by the -- a unit of the essex county militia in -- north of boston, northeast of boston in 1775. it descended in that family directly until 1975 when it was acquired by the flag research center in massachusetts and then just two years ago, i believe, was sold at -- actually, it was not sold at auction, i believe it was acquired through private sale so it's now in a private collection but on loan for our display today. now, the forster flag is interesting and i hope you're able to see this in the light. if you look at the canton area in this earlier photograph you can see the darker area here. it's also visib

the confederate flag no longer flying. ic museum. that happened just a few moments ago. it is in the museum where it will remain. the pole itself that $30,000 pole that wasie erected back in 2000 will be removed sometime this afternoon, and south carolina will move on. that's going to wrap up the special edition of "the rundown" on msnbc. next tamron hall with news nation. american express for travel and entertainment worldwide. just show them this - the american express card. don't leave home without it! and someday, i may even use it on the moon. it's a marvelous thing! oh! haha! so you can replace plane tickets, traveler's cheques, a lost card. really? that worked? american express' timeless safety and security are now available on apple pay. the next evolution of membership is here. i'm deborah heritage i've been volunteering at the international bird rescue for about 8 years. we see birds with all types of problems. when a bird gets oil on its feathers, it destroys their waterproofing. dawn is absolutely essential to t

i am planting the flag for the people who died. anybody who died for this flag. period.in't got nothing to do with black, white. hell, yeah/ this flag means that the 13 original colonies wanted to stay out of the united states government. amy: that was william wales wrapped in the confederate flag. he was standing next to the confederate monument. he was standing next to a young african-american student of south carolina who was opposing the flag. your response. bree: quite frankly -- and i said this in the statement -- one of the problems we have in the united states is that we are not the best when it comes to educating our children on history. the confederacy is a southern thing, but white supremacy is not. while the confederacy was defeated in the civil war, when reconstruction fell apart and there was the imposition of jim crow the north largely turned a blind eye to it because the as well. you see that playing out today when we are in 2015 and we are debating what the civil war was about. the united states went to war with itself over the issue of slavery and more

the flag in question looks exactly like the flag that is on the dome right now. with the exception of the fact that it has a refinished. -- it has a wreath in it. if i had not come to this podium or this amendment had not read that it was a regimental flag, most of you would not have ever known it. and in attempt to be respectful to the people who gave their lives in defense of this date from an over oppressive federal government, allow them to be honored, allow them to be respected. they fought for things they believed in. no different than veterans who died in more recent conflicts gave their lives in defense of this nation. please have some respect for your constituents and to those who have gone before us who lost family members in that way and still wish to respect them, just as i am respecting the fact that the current flag outside represents things that some people don't like. i have gone through a transformation within myself to understand that issue. honestly. i mean, in all seriousness, i have wept over this thing. i have been this thing in prayer. i ha

the flag is down. h that healing process, and then we need to move forward in south carolina. the nation is watching us and we are setting an example now for the entire nation that is watching us. >> chiefmentachievement gaps and disparity in south carolina. i think with the flag being re3406dre removed, young people feel they can have a chance of success in south carolina. >> around the country kids are being punished because of the area they live in. if we can get all these people together if we can focus on that and make sure that those kids don't go to school in a corridor of shame but a corridor of hope not only will the flag coming down mean something, but clementa's spirit can rest in all of us. >> thank you, lawmakers. thank you, andre. way tonight thank charles blow and also van jones. our coverage is going to continue live from south carolina right here at the steps of the state house where this flag no longer flies right after this quick break. why pause a spontaneous moment to take a pill? o

furled the flag. at does not mean you do not have a ceremony and ritual and i am not appear to lecture. but those are not the words of the people on the battlefield. i was born and raised in columbia. that i have the privilege of representing senate district 42. and i would like to thank my colleagues in the charleston delegation -- senator kimpson senator thururmond -- speaking on these issues before it became popular to do so. in closing, i want to take you to -- and i want you to understand about what my colleague calls this frost and strong -- charleston strong united movement. a charleston strong movement that grew by the thousands senator bennett, who assembled on that bridge in unity, all rallying for the state to come together. pictures were flashed across the screens all across america, and from charleston strong, we have grown to south carolina strong and we have grown to the united states of america strong. this is our moment. the gravity of the nation and the world are watching us. this is

this flag is the flag, confederate balancing flag of the army of northern virginia. robert e. lee's army. and when robert e. lee surrendered at appomattox, he asked all of his followers to furl this flag, store it away, he said, put it in your attics. he refused to be buried in his confederate uniform. his family refused to allow anyone dressed in the confederate uniform to attend his funeral. why? because robert e. lee said he considered this emblem to be a symbol of treason. yet puts up an amendment we're going to vote on this afternoon that asks us to allow this flag to be sold and displayed in our national parks. >> the john boehner plan to sell and display the confederate flag in national parks, it did not go over well. so john boehner had to pull that today. he pulled the bring back the confederate flags to national parks thing and pulled the whole bill, part of that whole bill that funds the whole part of the government, whole interior government, had to pull it over the confederate flag issue. and now nobody knows what's going to happen. >> i want members on both sides

the other flag is in the neighboring museum from where we are, the relic room. so now that flag is there and it's not on display. it's in a storage facility right- now. it's not quite clear when it will be on display but they have until january 1st to figure all of that out. brooke? >> nick thank you very much. we also have don lemon in south carolina. he spoke with the governor there. governor nikki haley about why it was time for the flag to come down and also how lawmakers found a way to finally make this happen. >> it's important for people to know what it is like to be in another person's shoes and if you watch the legislative debate that's what happened. people put each other in each other's shoes so they understood what heritage and tradition was and it wasn't about hate but the other side also learned how painful that flag was and the pain that it was causing people. that's what brought south carolina to this new day, was the ability to look at each other and listen and say, it's time. >> you will hear much more with governor haley and don lemon at the to

it says that 364 days a year the state flag, the south carolina state flag would fly on the pole and one day a year on confederate memorial day the current flag would fly there. thank you mr. pitts. the standing question is adoption of amendment 63. mr. bran non -- 34r bran nonasked if we'd table it. >> nine second her request. nine do. we'll vote on the board. tabling motion on amendment 63. mr. dennis. >>> time has expired polls are closed, clerk will tabulate. motion 76-34. amendment is tabled. clerk read. >> page please. >> 64 is mr. corley. 64, representative corley. >> amendment 64 representative corley's amendment. he's recognized on his amendment. representative corley. >> thank you, mr. speaker. ladies and gentlemen -- can i have some order? >> members, it's way too loud in here. if you will find your seat, take your conversations outside. representative corley has asked to be heard and he is recognized. mr. corley. >> thank you, mr. speaker. ladies and gentlemen, for some reason the republican party had a caucus breakfast this morning and we were asked to try to find a comp

the only flag that means anything to me is the united states flag. how far do you go? do you change the name of the capitol of our country was named for a slave owner. i think george washington was a great american. he owned slaves but when you look at what he did for the nation as a whole, i think he deserves this honor. we have to face our past and we have to do it in a way to move together and not rewrite the past because like every nation, we're not perfect by any means. >> speaker boehner is putting together a committee to discuss how to deal with confederate symbols in washington on federal land and again, do you stand by that move to discuss it? do you believe there needs to be changes going forward -- >> sure. >> looking forward right now, you think there needs to be new consideration about these symbols in places like cemeteries in national parks. >> let's evaluate what we're going to do going forward, what's the right thing to do? do you lows aclose all the ceme? do you dig the confederate dead up? >> that's going much farther i think than anyone is discussing

amy: what's the flag? >> oh, the confederate flag. y: do you think dylann roof did the wrong thing? >> what he did was give a black eye to the confederate flag by allowing the media and irrational people to say, "well, that monument has got to come down because some nut killed somebody," which has nothing to do with that monument. the monument was not built over racism and over hatred. the monument was built because people died fighting for this state, just like the vietnam war memorial and world war ii. amy: thank you. >> they love the people that died for this state. amy: thank you. >> do you? amy: thank you, stewart. >> thank you. what is your name? amy: my name is amy, and i'm from new york. >> amy what? what is your last name? amy: goodman. >> goodman. amy: yeah. >> are you jewish? somebody told me that was a jewish name. >> take it down! >> take it down! take it down! >> >> what's the problem? >> my name is tom clements, and i live in columbia, born in savannah, georgia. amy: who's your great-great-grandfather? >> well, i did thi

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he knew the history of that flag. everyone should know the history of that flag. people who still support it, shame on them. host: joyce from washington d.c.. we hear from randy and iowa. caller: you have had good callers hear. i hope i can hold my own. i think, personally, as a yankee and somebody who believes in the great united states, not just in on the fourth of july and not just in a hollow words, that the fed -- that the confederate flag is a symbol of anarchy. it is a disgraced symbol of anarchy. those people and what that stood for, they did not stand for for humanity. -- the not stand for decency and for humanity. we have to look at how this sentiment has change the relationship of the u.s. congress and how they have failed miserably, to promote decent standards for humanity across the world. i would like to identify corporatism as the new slavers. they have taken jobs, millions from americans with families and health care, and retirement plans. they have shipped these jobs, like the tpp, they will go to vietnam or china or wherever. and there is indecent

the confederate flag was originally the battle flag for the army of southern states during the civil war. for many it represents the pride of the south. but for others it remains a symbol of racism. the shootings in charleston last month reignited the debate. nine african-americans were killed. during a bible study at a historic church. 21-year-old dylann roof is charged with their murders. he had posted a photo online of himself holding the flag along with a white supremacy manifesto. >> take down the flag. take it down. >> that prompted fresh calls for the flag's removal. even the governor who is a republican has joined the call. >> it's time to move the flag from the capitol grounds. >> reporter: president barack obama also supported the idea in his emotional eulogy for the victims. >> for many black and white, that flag was a reminder of systemic oppression. and racial subjugation. we see that now. >> reporter: this isn't the first time people have tried to take down the flag. in 2000 opponents staged rallies but met strong resistance. legislators then reached a compromise. they

we need to bring down the flag. the scars and stains of racism are steered deeply and embedded in every corner of american society. i don't want to see our little children, whether they're black or white latina native americans, -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. lewis: these signs -- mr. mcgovern: i yield the gentleman an additional minute. mr. lewis: as a nation and as a people we can do better. we can lay down this heavy burden. it is too heavy to bear. hate is too heavy to burden to bear -- too heavy a burden to bear. we can't plant these seeds in the minds of our people. when i was marching across that bridge in selma in 1965, i saw some of the law officers sheriff deputies wearing on their helmet the confederate flag. i don't want to go back and as a country we cannot go back. we must go forward and create a community that recognizes all of us as human beings, as citizens, one people, one nation. we all live in the same house >> a vote allowing confederate flags and national park

and tor the technical people, i know it is not the confederate flag, i know it is the battle flag but it is the confederate assy, and that is the bottom line. that is the bottom line. and that is problematic. we thought we could get a clean bill out of here, second reading, third reading tomorrow and we would have done right by the state of south carolina and those families. but we didn't. we did not. we kept our record in tact. we said quite clearly this is who we are. and it's a shame. it's a shame. >> mr. james smith is recognized. >> i'm sorry, mr. bails he did not want to take questions. i will keep you first on our list. i'm sorry, mr. bails. >> hey. ladies and gentlemen i want to ask us to stop and be reasonable. now what we need to do is to give second reading to this bill before 12:00. and at 12:05 give third reading to take the flag down and go home. now we all know what is right and what we ought to do. it is now a quarter to 12:00. we need to table the amendments and pass the bill the senate passed, then after 12:00 give third reading and go home and guess what? all of you

the senate bill specifically states that no other flags other than the american flag and the state flag can fly. so by that virtue if this amendment is not jermaine the bill wouldn't be jermaine to the sonny dodd. >> would you like to be heard on this matter? >> same comments the only flags authorized shall be authorized in this section. i don't know how you read that any other way other than if it is not stated in here, you can't fly it. very clear. >> thank you, sir. >> same comments, the only flags >>> ladies and gentlemen i want to call your attention to the bill itself. and although it reflects other language in section 1-10-10-a, the language that it reflects, initially, is language that already exists. the language that was changed directs -- relates directly, looking at page one of the bill and page two, relates directly to the confederate flag the monument and the issues that, according to the signing todd, concerning the confederate flag of the united states of america and surrounding arrangement of the confederate soldier monument. it appears the language that we're bringing

but i pledge allegiance every morning to the flag of the united states of america. it is our flag. d we need to hold it as such and take anything else and put it in its proper place. does the confederate battle banner have a proper place in south carolina? it does. it needs to be in the relic room. you have seen my colleague representative ott come forward and give us all a plan with which we can satisfy everyone. but what have we -- what does it appear as if we're choosing to do? we're -- and it seems as if a lot of us want to run out the clock. hold the ball and let time go on so that nothing will get done. well, guess what? the world is watching. and in the words of the great abolitionist william wilbaforce. you may choose to look away but you can never again say that you did not know. you know that the flag divides our state. you know that that flag is embarrassing and shameful and promotes all types of division. but it seems as if we're choosing to continue that path. shame on us. because we know better. thank you. >> thank you, mr. mcknight. stepped away. mr. king. mr. king is

we will see the confederate flag come down. >> the confederate flag flying on the state capital groundsill be removed. house lawmakers passed a measure with a final vote of 94-20. >> those in favor say aye. those opposed say no. the ayes have it. >> the debate turned in to an argument to remove any state flag containing the confederate flags from the capital. >> i do not want it to become a political football. it should not. >> the ayes have it. >> i would expect you'll see some conversations in the coming days. >>> tonight it's california versus trump. california state senator isadore hall along with the democratic leader of the senate introduced a resolution saying, "whereas the united states of america was founded on the principles of liberty and justice and these principles enshrined in our declaration of independence, the self evident truth that all persons are created equal and whereas california is home to the largest population of immigrants in the united states whose contributions help to drive this state to be the most economically prosperous in the nation and whereas donald t

the department of public safety detail that's taking the flag down the confederate battle flag takingdown behind me. the same detail that was actually used at the funeral for state senator clementa pinckney of course one of the nine gunned down in the church basement three weeks ago. the ceremony we're told is going to be short. it is going to be solemn. it probably won't take longer than five minutes. pretty odd considering that the flag itself has flown here for more than 50 years. 50 years for all of us who have grown up in the shadow of the confederate battle flag here in south carolina. it will be likely a deeply emotional day, but won't be any speeches or any songs. for it to come down. it will go inside the state house and be taken via armored car to the nearby confederate relic room, a museum here a stone's throw from the state house. >> we know you're a born and bred south carolinian. what happens after this? what are people saying about that? >> reporter: you know that's an excellent question. i think there's a bit of an misconception that the flag is going to come down and

that flag was going to come down. the debate is not ending with that flag. there's still a con ffederate monument there. there are battlefields which are open air museums. these vast open air museums of the war where flags have come down. why? because we're saying they're innately, inherently offensive. they're also a part of our hisz ri. there are reasons why you display the flags and the artifacts of history. so we've moved well beyond that. and the people of south carolina have made their decision. they've made it in a way that was peaceful with civil debate. i applaud them for that. but this debate is far from over. and we haven't established a principle upon which we're going to make those decisions. >> standby, gentlemen. i want everyone to take a look at that confederate flag that is flying right behind me. it is going to come down. soon, you see the countdown clock right there on your screen. >>> first, i want you to listen to what president obama said in his eulogy. >> removing the flag from this state's capitol would not be an act of political corre

i think the vote on the flag, the confederate flag was exactly right. >> it's great to have you on theoadcast. we'd lick ke to have you more often. thank you, mr. cuomo. >> brother who? thank you, ashleigh. >> i'm telling him you said that. he might be sleeping now. governor cuomo joining us live. thanks for watching. next hour secretary of state john kerry is expected to speak about the ongoing iran nuclear talks. we'll take that live after this quick break. ♪ whoa what are you doing? putting on a movie. i'm trying to watch the game here. look i need this right now ok? come on i don't want to watch that. too bad this is happening. fine, what if i just put up the x1 sports app right here. ah jeez it's so close. he just loves her so much. do it. come on. do it. come on! yes! awww, yes! that is what i'm talking about. baby. call and upgrade to get x1 today. ♪ >>> hi there. i'm brianna keilar in for wolf blitzer. negotiators are working on a nuclear deal with iran. president obama put odds ton that deal at less than 50/50. there are still significant stadiumbling blocks and we expe to hea

and the flag was put up behind me. and if you get it wrong the outcome will also be wrong. >> reverend rivers, it's a pleasure to talk to you. thank you for your time. >> thank you so much, bless you. >> hundreds of native mentoneers gathered today in washington to discuss issues with the native american community. michelle obama spoke to them. it's part of the white house indigenous initiative. it was launched after the first lady visited a north dakota reservation last year. >> the native american teenagers came from 275 tribes across the united states. proud of their heritage and convinced that it remains relevant. >> i gave speeches telling native american youth that no matter their past or background, they can be whatever they want to be in life. >> to teach young children, so they can bring back to their community. and it's interesting to see what people are doing in their communities and take some of those things back. >> at its first ever tribal youth gathering the obama administration announced that more money

with the rebel flag but only if it also displays the american flag. the confederate flag is still widely displayed in the museum and on the battlefield itself. >> we've always told both sides of the story at gettysburg national military park. it's our passion to tell the whole history. >> to me, it's history. >> reporter: lee houser wears the uniform of isaac trimble, a general. >> we have ancestors on the confederate side. i'm honoring them by flying the flag. >> reporter: scott wilson plays a mid-level officer. they say they're pained by the fact that some people, including the ku klux klan and white supremacists such as alleged killer dylann roof, have long used the flag as a symbol of racism and hate. >> some people use it for other things, which is an injustice. >> if i could take it from the kkk, i would in a heartbeat, but i can't, free speech. >> reporter: they say at gettysburg, the flag is important for educational experience intended to inspire americans to learn about their past. chip reid, cbs news, gettysburg. >> axelrod: team u.s.a. goes

remove the confederate flag. the republicans on capitol hill seem to be going in the opposite direction. the house leadership had to pull the bill. you are seeing another contentious moment democrats loudly protesting when the republicans decided to table or delay a move to remove the confederate flag image. that speaks to the mississippi flag. there was a lot of anger and emotion about all the issues on the house floor yesterday. let's play what new york congressman had to say in that emotional moment. >> had this confederate battle flag prevailed in war 150 years ago, i would not be standing here today as a member of the united states congress. i would be here as a slave. >> that's just one of the emotional moments we saw pretty much all day on the house floor and afterwards. john boehner said he wants to see a conversation among adults about what to do with the confederate symbols. they are saying look what needs to be discussed. >> one of the congressmen is going to join us here on "new day" this morning. than

he said "i look forward to the citizens of south carolina being under one flag -- the american flag. joining us from columbia south carolina we have cnn's don lemon. don, you had the first interview with nikki haley a short time ago after the flag came down. what did she say? >> she said a lot in that interview and it was probably the most personal interview that i have seen of her where, you know you interview governors and lawmakers and, you know they come off as politicians. she did not come off as a politician. she came off as someone who is very very human and very very touched by this. and i think the one word that she said was -- that i can say about this interview, i think, that she learned from this was empathy, empathy. how to walk in someone else's shoes. and she thinks that's what this is a lesson in. take a look. >> it's important for people to know what it's like to be in another person's shoes and if you watch the legislative debate, that's what happened. people put themselves in each other's shoes. so they understood what the respect of tradition and heritage was and t

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with another confederate emblem to turning the u.s. flag on the capital dome upside down, any of which would have forced into a currency with the senate version, could have lasted for weeks, legislative death by amendment. as they continued to bring forward one by one, the floor debate turned emotional. >> i can't build a home and tell my people that politics was more important than them. respectfully and truthfully i can't go home and tell them that the flag was more important than their feelings, their hurt, their pain, their anguish. >> that flag that stands outside has stood as a thumb in the eye of those families in charleston who lost loved ones. we all know it. >> i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday. >> at one point in a rare moment of transparency, one house republican revealed the raw political motives behind their obstruction. >> some of us need some help in our districts on this issue. that flag needs to come down. however

as we saw when the flag came down. the state highway patrol honor guard carried the flag off the grounds for good moving it to a museum. and ours later the pole that held the flag up for years came down too. people were filled with emotion. >> something i didn't think i would probably see in my lifetime. >> it's given people an excuse to be mean and ugly. and today it's a totally different ball game. >> it's a historical moment. it's been in the making for 53 years. i wanted to make sure that my grandchildren and my son would be able to tell their children when they get older about the confederate flag being removed from the statehouse grounds. >>> joining me now from the statehouse are state representatives leon howard and caesar mcknight. thank you both for being here. >> thank you, reverend. >> thank you reverend sharpton. >> representative mcknight, what does it mean to you to know that, for the first time in your life, the flag is not flying on the statehouse grounds in south carolina? >> reverend al i never though

how soon could the flag come down? so what happens is we'll be on second reading today and your listeners and the world will know who voted to remove it and what has to happen is we have to have third readings now. you can get to third by unanimous consent motion. i fully expect someone to object. which means if we get second reading today, we come back tomorrow and we can do a voice vote on third. immediately after third, which should happen if not today tomorrow more likely tomorrow then we will send the senate version of the bill to the house and they have to have two additional readings. they can read it across the desk the first day we send it to them. that will institute first reading, but the debate over there will largely on the merits will be on second reading then they have to go to third. if everything plays out procedurally we should be able to get a bill to the governor's desk by the end of the week. that's what we're going to be working hard i'm told that the governor will sign it immediately upon arrival

should come down was supporting the flag and saying there was no backlash against the flag. other people who do business in this state, there was a business backlash brewing. the pressure being brought to bear on nikki haley, not just by african-american members, some of whom have been fighting this fight for 15 years. by corporations businesses and the national republican party. she has faced tremendous pressure and then she was not exactly in the strongest position. she doesn't necessarily naturally lead them into action they really have independent thoughts and actions, everything she did had to be carefully calibrated not to be seen to be pushing them around. this has been a delicate balance for this governor. i think in the end most people here across that the business interest of the state are being served by this. african-american members stood up last night an said let's talk about our heritage. this flag is so painful and painful to the memory of the charleston nine this had to be done. definitely we expect the charles ston nine to be the center of nikki's thoughts a

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the governor signed a bill to remove the flag yesterday. at her side, family members of victims from last month's church massacre in charleston. diane, tell us how the program will go this morning for the removal of the flag. >> randall we've gotten very few details from the state on how things are going to proceed this morning. we know there's going to be a ceremony at 10:00. the flag will be lowered carried away in an armored vehicle. it's going to be taken to the south carolina confederate relic room and military museum here in columbia, about a mile away. we're going to have to waist and see how things proceed as the day progresses. >> with all the controversy, i imagine security is tight. >> it is. after the governor signed the bill into law barricades went up around the perimeter of the statehouse lawn. we've seen a huge police presence here just a few minutes ago, we saw some law enforcement walk through here with bomb sniffing dogs, and last night the columbia city council passed a measure that would ban any weapons around the stateh

american flag and the south carolina state flag, which in my humble opinion is one of the most beautiful state flags. it has the palmetto and the crescent on it. a lot of people proudly fly that in front of their homes and those people who are disappointed see the confederate flag go down from the state capitol will continue to fly that confederate flag, that confederate battle flag in front of their homes in south carolina. sound like there's some developments going on. >> exactly. nikki haley now speaking to the press. >> again, i'm not going try to see if all the cameras are ready. look at everybody around us. that's the first thing i want you to take in just look at this shot. can you hear me on the mic? press guys? are we good? one, two throw. one, two three. we good? can the tv guys hear? >> yes. >> all right. i well yell as loud as i can. so you know it's hard for us to look at what is happening today and not think back to 22 days ago. it seems like so long ago. because the grieving has been so hard. but at the same time we have all been struck by what was a tragedy that we didn't

house today. >> gentlemen. >> reporter: the sound of raw division. >> the flag of the united states of america, this is not that flag. >> had this confederate battle flag prevailed in war 150 years ago, i would not be standing here today as a member of the united states congress. i would be here as a slave. >> reporter: congress is battling over new restrictions to remove confederate battle flags from federal property like national parks. democrats say there is no room for debate. >> don't republicans understand that the confederate battle flag is an insult to 40 million african americans? >> reporter: this fight started when southern republicans tried to protect the use of confederate battle flags at government-owned cemeteries where civil war dead are buried. >> to me it's historical perspective. we can't erase history. >> reporter: leaders tried to take the cemetery measure into a major spending bill but democrats were outraged and house speaker john boehner abruptly cancelled the vote. >> i do not want this to become a political football, it should not. >> reporter: lawmakers use t

the actual removal of the flag. francis, what we are still awaiting are the details of how that flag comes down. what will be done by the governor's office in terms of will there be a ceremony or will they just pull it down and be done with it. we're expecting lots of people to be here tomorrow. one of the things we're looking for is whether or not any of the family of the charleston 9, 9 people killed inside mother emanuel church will come either today or tomorrow. >> you spoke with some people there as again, people are expected to gather maybe looking at it for one last time. here's more from what some of the people there in south carolina, columbia had to say. let's listen. >> i saw this flag all my life. so i despice that flag. i think it's the same as swastika, so i love it. i'm so happy. >> this symbol of hate needs to go. and i'm so proud that they're taking it down. and i drove from charlotte so my daughter could see it. i want her to be here to see history. >> and that's a 70ment from people who want that t