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the general plan, but the order, generally discourages but does not prohibit the use in the public rights of way, and let the order, the general plan has strong language regarding the concern for aesthetic streetscapes in the city. the better streets plan, which was adopted just recently, is a part of the general plan, and the better street plan incorporates by reference the dpw order, and it conforms with the general plan. in a strong location siting criteria for the public right of way, and i will go through some of those quickly. the better street plan sets out some sidewalk zones. there is a zone in front of the building which allows some uses and the uses of the stores. there is another zone, and zone called the furnishings though, where you can put benches and newspaper boxes. there is a transition zone, notepad and then there is an extension zero, which is essentially the parking area, where you can sometimes put in some things and widen the sidewalks. the better street plan says that when allowed by the order, the director's order, and that is when they have gone through the analy
the general plan, but the order, generally discourages but does not prohibit the use in the public rights of way, and let the order, the general plan has strong language regarding the concern for aesthetic streetscapes in the city. the better streets plan, which was adopted just recently, is a part of the general plan, and the better street plan incorporates by reference the dpw order, and it conforms with the general plan. in a strong location siting criteria for the public right of way, and i...
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. >> the next item is general public comment. members may address the commission on matters that are now addressable by the commission but are not on the agenda. we have one speaker card from [unintelligible] >> please. >> [inaudible] i would like mention the name of more olaura [unintelligible] who i have known for a long time. she is a very astute secretary. not to say that mike is not good. i have known him for a long time. having said that, commissioners, we did have a meeting in the community. many things were discussed. i think that from time to time we must revisit such meetings with a few focused agenda items, which we can do, taking an entire series with too many things on the agenda, you do not do justice to the meeting. that is my subjective opinion. in future we can take one or two items. maybe one of the items could be held that facility that was caused mitigation. how can that best serve the community? not the other entities where the community finds it difficult to receive the benefits. but it was nice to see you li
. >> the next item is general public comment. members may address the commission on matters that are now addressable by the commission but are not on the agenda. we have one speaker card from [unintelligible] >> please. >> [inaudible] i would like mention the name of more olaura [unintelligible] who i have known for a long time. she is a very astute secretary. not to say that mike is not good. i have known him for a long time. having said that, commissioners, we did have a...
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congress will have the power to provide for the general welfare of the united states through it right there in our constitution and our founding fathers who wrote the general welfare clause knew exactly what it meant that's why george washington was the very first president to sign legislation authorizing funds to provide for housing food education and medical care to the poor in washington d.c. that's why john adams and thomas jefferson our second and third presidents continued our policy without a second thought that's why the first veto of our fourth president james madison the main author of the constitution was to kill a piece of legislation that ruef the responsibility for caring and pain for the poor from the federal government to a church in d.c. madison didn't believe the government should ever give money to churches for any purpose and the one of the most important jobs of the federal government was to catch those who fell through the social safety net reduced me to a message he said he was vetoing the bill quote because the build vests and said incorporated church and also
congress will have the power to provide for the general welfare of the united states through it right there in our constitution and our founding fathers who wrote the general welfare clause knew exactly what it meant that's why george washington was the very first president to sign legislation authorizing funds to provide for housing food education and medical care to the poor in washington d.c. that's why john adams and thomas jefferson our second and third presidents continued our policy...
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i understand we put it in the general fund, but that is the reason. i do not know what the potential cuts might bee, but i think we understand that, and i think we have said that to people, and i agree. i have been the one who has been thinking that rather than do what we have done, which is to take a percentage of this than to ask him to decide which cuts to make, it seems to me we still have money on our minds as categorically restricted money, whereas some districts have taken all of their money and said this is unrestricted money a merged with other sources and how do we want to spend that money? that is another way of looking at it and getting out of the categorical frame of mind. we are keeping most of the money in the targeted improvement finund, which is used to close lohan -- close the gap your your -- close the gap. i think people would be appreciative of knowing, especially at the schools, what we are doing to keep the school budget was low as possible. >> -- and budget as low as possible. >> i want to start with page nine, which gives of b
i understand we put it in the general fund, but that is the reason. i do not know what the potential cuts might bee, but i think we understand that, and i think we have said that to people, and i agree. i have been the one who has been thinking that rather than do what we have done, which is to take a percentage of this than to ask him to decide which cuts to make, it seems to me we still have money on our minds as categorically restricted money, whereas some districts have taken all of their...
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is this something -- >> did you look into the general public information? is in the consent calendar for today. >> is there someone else would like to make public comment on the consent calendar? public, disclosed. commissioners? >> i entertain a motion. >> all of those in favor signify by saying aye. >> we are now on item 6, the san francisco zoo. >> thank you. >> good morning, commissioners. it is a pleasure to be here. this will come up on the screen? this will come up on the screen? >> can you state your name for
is this something -- >> did you look into the general public information? is in the consent calendar for today. >> is there someone else would like to make public comment on the consent calendar? public, disclosed. commissioners? >> i entertain a motion. >> all of those in favor signify by saying aye. >> we are now on item 6, the san francisco zoo. >> thank you. >> good morning, commissioners. it is a pleasure to be here. this will come up on the...
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$64,709 to the general fund. the total savings of $1,000,000.106 -- and we come to the total savings with the general fund. what the department was referring to in terms of the correction, the report is correct except on page 73, which does not change the bottom line at all. on page 73, where you see the recap, the general fund impact isshould be $543,623. the total would be $888,840. the non general fund would be $210,0000. the totals would be the same. so my citation of the original general fund savings are correct. supervisor chu: to be clear, from my understanding, the report shows savings in terms of total recommended reductions of 1,000,098 belt -- 1,000,098 $840. it should be $888,804. >> and that number on page 64 of our report is stated correctly, where i initially commented. supervisor chu: can use it to the number is again? >> of the recommended reductions, $888,840 our general fund. in addition, there's another $64,709 to close out general fund encumbrances bit of the total recommended savings would be
$64,709 to the general fund. the total savings of $1,000,000.106 -- and we come to the total savings with the general fund. what the department was referring to in terms of the correction, the report is correct except on page 73, which does not change the bottom line at all. on page 73, where you see the recap, the general fund impact isshould be $543,623. the total would be $888,840. the non general fund would be $210,0000. the totals would be the same. so my citation of the original general...
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item number three, the general managers' report. >> i have a few things to report. this is all good news. tuesday the 21st, the 23rd. thursday, june 23, we will have the william hammon hall award at 2:30 in the conservatory, and the awards are jointly presented by the parks and recreation department, and laborers local. next tuesday, june 21, the department has been invited to participate in the blue-green awards, to support the employees and apartments who have shrunk in the carbon footprint. two members of the staff -- will be recognized for their achievements and their efforts in reducing the carbon footprint. the department leaves the city for this waste, and we're working on strategies to continue to reduce the overall footprint. next month, the superintendent will make a presentation on the department's action plan. next month, we will present the year in review for the department. i wanted to give you a sneak preview into some of the news, that we are particularly proud of. we are expected to conclude the year with a reduction in workers compensation costs, wi
item number three, the general managers' report. >> i have a few things to report. this is all good news. tuesday the 21st, the 23rd. thursday, june 23, we will have the william hammon hall award at 2:30 in the conservatory, and the awards are jointly presented by the parks and recreation department, and laborers local. next tuesday, june 21, the department has been invited to participate in the blue-green awards, to support the employees and apartments who have shrunk in the carbon...
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because of the local fire ordinance, this would be a significant job generator. what this bond will not do, because it came as a recommendation from the 10-year capital plan, is that it will not result in a property tax rate increase. the capital planning committee has established in the plan policy of issuing new debt only as old debt retired so that we have as a baseline of 2006 property-tax rates. this bond and all others recommended by the capital plan are sized as such they will incur new debt for the city only as old debt is retired. there will be no increase in property tax rates. this is before you today or recommendation to the full board to go on the ballot this november. i would be happy to answer any questions. supervisor chu: thank you. mr. rose, any comments to add to the presentation? >> madam chair, members of the committee, as you stated, the numbers are the same, the debt service is the same. we concur by the statement by mr. riskin to say that there will be no pay increases in property taxes offset by the existing debt going down. we recommend a
because of the local fire ordinance, this would be a significant job generator. what this bond will not do, because it came as a recommendation from the 10-year capital plan, is that it will not result in a property tax rate increase. the capital planning committee has established in the plan policy of issuing new debt only as old debt retired so that we have as a baseline of 2006 property-tax rates. this bond and all others recommended by the capital plan are sized as such they will incur new...
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all of the revenue or department generates -- i think a said it 37? supervisor elsbernd: and we're not eliminating that money. it prohibits you from increasing that amount, is that fair? >> it does. i deferred to the city attorney on their interpretation. we have concerns about the breadth of the measure, but we think this could impact to the tune of $13 million over the next five years. supervisor avalos: what is that number based on? we're talking about leasing clubhouses. new fees like a botanical garden fee or a charge fee to enter report, which we don't do, so we're not saying we're taking things away or that you will not be able to do a lease at a clubhouse in the future. >> correct, it also says there can be no new fees in our parks. supervisor avalos: no new entry fees. but this is not about outside land. >> correct, but it basically says no new leases, correct? it depends on how broadly defined a lease. supervisor avalos: we are defining as leasing a clubhouse. >> i am not sure, and i defer to the city attorney, i am not sure the measure says
all of the revenue or department generates -- i think a said it 37? supervisor elsbernd: and we're not eliminating that money. it prohibits you from increasing that amount, is that fair? >> it does. i deferred to the city attorney on their interpretation. we have concerns about the breadth of the measure, but we think this could impact to the tune of $13 million over the next five years. supervisor avalos: what is that number based on? we're talking about leasing clubhouses. new fees like...
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all of the revenue or department generates -- i think a said it 37? supervisor elsbernd: and we're not eliminating that money. it prohibits you from increasing that amount, is that fair? >> it does. i deferred to the
all of the revenue or department generates -- i think a said it 37? supervisor elsbernd: and we're not eliminating that money. it prohibits you from increasing that amount, is that fair? >> it does. i deferred to the
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of a los -- avalos is saying this money could come from the general fund. why/it in the first place if it is going to be put -- why slash it in the first place if it is going to be put back? something has to be done in the form of other sources of revenue. i am an optimist. perhaps these tax streams will increase as the economy increases and things get better, and one by one that money could come back, but i am opposed. supervisor avalos: robert watkins, tess welbourne, barry watkins, tess welbourne, barry galvin, aki
of a los -- avalos is saying this money could come from the general fund. why/it in the first place if it is going to be put -- why slash it in the first place if it is going to be put back? something has to be done in the form of other sources of revenue. i am an optimist. perhaps these tax streams will increase as the economy increases and things get better, and one by one that money could come back, but i am opposed. supervisor avalos: robert watkins, tess welbourne, barry watkins, tess...
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-- would the general manager please meet with those folks? >> good morning, commissioners and general manager. i am judy. i also represent the peach growers. peach growers has a long-term relationship with been mather. we're fortunate enough to have had these happens in our families for several generations, and we have provided mutual support back and forth with mather for a great number of years and assistance locally. many at the camp had family members, and history dating back to the construction of hetch hetchy. my family goes back to 1927. i do not go back quite that far, but i have 60 years in, and i learned to swim there. i have a selfish interest as well. i am describing this so you understand we're not casual tourists in the area, that we have a long-term relationship. we want to be able to resume the structured arrangement that we had and to come up with a fair arrangement to both. it will be a little bit of a revenue source for the city. instead of every once in a while getting a few day passes, you'd get some amount. the rate we ha
-- would the general manager please meet with those folks? >> good morning, commissioners and general manager. i am judy. i also represent the peach growers. peach growers has a long-term relationship with been mather. we're fortunate enough to have had these happens in our families for several generations, and we have provided mutual support back and forth with mather for a great number of years and assistance locally. many at the camp had family members, and history dating back to the...
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>> the general public comment. >> commissioner adams: seeing none,. >> want to -- i want to extend an invitation to you. they are interested in finding out what the city is doing in regard to small businesses. i will be meeting with them at 9:30 a.m. to review what we're doing to promote small business. i invite you to attend this meeting. it is in room 201 at city hall. >> commissioner adams: is there a motion to adjourn? >> second. >> commissioner adams: meeting adjourned at 81:15 p.m. >> the san francisco cons tri of flowers in golden gate park is now showing a new exhibit that changes the way we see the plants around us. amy stewart's best-selling book, "wicked plants" is the inspiration behind the new exhibit that takes us to the dark side of the plant world. >> i am amy stewart. i am the arthur of "wicked plants," the weeds that killed lincoln's mother and other botanical atrocities. with the screens fly trap, that is kind of where everybody went initially, you mean like that? i kind of thought, well, all it does is eat up bugs. that is not very wicked. so what? by wicked, what
>> the general public comment. >> commissioner adams: seeing none,. >> want to -- i want to extend an invitation to you. they are interested in finding out what the city is doing in regard to small businesses. i will be meeting with them at 9:30 a.m. to review what we're doing to promote small business. i invite you to attend this meeting. it is in room 201 at city hall. >> commissioner adams: is there a motion to adjourn? >> second. >> commissioner adams:...
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between the hip hop generation the civil rights generation going to play out what point. well sure i mean it's hard for people to remember now even though the election wasn't really that long ago but if you're going to correctly there were a lot of articles early on particularly during the primary about older black americans being somewhat suspicious of president obama or than senator obama and it wasn't necessarily that they didn't care for him but there was there was sort of a narrative that was playing out as i chronicled in party crashing it wasn't just in the case of president obama there were a number of races as you know including cory booker's race in new jersey when he ran for mayor the first time he got start james arthur davis as a race when he ran for congress for the first time he was actually he's actually a law school classmate of president obama's but all of these these young up and coming black elected officials were approximately around the same age although most of the personal rights generation in their early political careers they faced off against old
between the hip hop generation the civil rights generation going to play out what point. well sure i mean it's hard for people to remember now even though the election wasn't really that long ago but if you're going to correctly there were a lot of articles early on particularly during the primary about older black americans being somewhat suspicious of president obama or than senator obama and it wasn't necessarily that they didn't care for him but there was there was sort of a narrative that...
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the general was sick in bed with typhoid fever, incommunicado. the army still make is inspiring his famous comment. if general mcclellan did not want to use the army may be can bar for a while. if something was not done send he confided the bottom would be out of the whole affair. 1862 may have been in no way the most dizzying year of the war. before it was over the in that better than worse than better than worse. within its roller-coaster of triumph and disaster abraham lincoln did nothing less then transformed the war for union into a war for union freedom. that was a pretty breathtaking turn of events. we wanted to exploit that here today with an emphasis on the extraordinary battle of antietam that did so much to transform america in many ways. let's go back a couple of days before the battle. september 15, 1862, destroy the rebel army if possible. a few days later after a battle widely reported in the press in a major union victory the commander in chief issued a congratulations. a few days later the emancipation proclamation suspended. the
the general was sick in bed with typhoid fever, incommunicado. the army still make is inspiring his famous comment. if general mcclellan did not want to use the army may be can bar for a while. if something was not done send he confided the bottom would be out of the whole affair. 1862 may have been in no way the most dizzying year of the war. before it was over the in that better than worse than better than worse. within its roller-coaster of triumph and disaster abraham lincoln did nothing...
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my numbers, a little repetitious -- as i understand it, what we are talking about is increasing the general fund support to special education by $8.40 million. i would kind of like to know why. we discussed this at the committee as a whole, but i do think for budget purposes i want to know what we are spending that on. i think we should, for the public and ourselves, take note of the fact that education transportation from the general fund is reduced by $800,000 from last year, which is what we have been looking for. i am happy to hear about that. we have some reference in the committee as a whole but were told these numbers were in flux. we should all -- the impending strokes we were all going to have when we heard the general fund encroachment was likely to grow by 20 million -- it is now less than half of that. but i would still like to know why that is growing in that way and if we think it is temporary and not going to keep on growing. we will all be in the hospital together otherwise. that is my question about that. i do not know if anybody wants to answer that before i ask another on
my numbers, a little repetitious -- as i understand it, what we are talking about is increasing the general fund support to special education by $8.40 million. i would kind of like to know why. we discussed this at the committee as a whole, but i do think for budget purposes i want to know what we are spending that on. i think we should, for the public and ourselves, take note of the fact that education transportation from the general fund is reduced by $800,000 from last year, which is what we...
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and i have the same kind of questions for staff, some of which we have heard already. generally, i want to say i find it difficult. for anybody that does not know, i think the budget is far more accessible to people. it is all of the narratives in the front. i do recommend to people that they read the whole narrative if they want to understand the budget. it is extremely helpful. but i think that the number pages are less -- we can still improve on them. let's put it that way. again, i would like to see the department of budgets tell me actually what we do. obviously, i understand this is transferred directly. we need to know how many fte's we are spending to each department. but that does not tell us or the public what they are doing with the money, and i think we need that. as well, i think we need the ability, maybe in selective ways, to compare the budget last year to the proposed budget for this year. we are spending a lot of time going like this. almost no one else is looking at the budget either online or in printed form with both books or in front of them were both budge
and i have the same kind of questions for staff, some of which we have heard already. generally, i want to say i find it difficult. for anybody that does not know, i think the budget is far more accessible to people. it is all of the narratives in the front. i do recommend to people that they read the whole narrative if they want to understand the budget. it is extremely helpful. but i think that the number pages are less -- we can still improve on them. let's put it that way. again, i would...
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and if the outcome of the general manager of turner in san francisco. we do with the, the general manager of turner in san francisco. >> good afternoon, commissioners to radioed -- commissioners. i am very glad to be here. i will walk you through a presentation of who turner is so you have an idea of who you are about to take this journey with. not only will they complete the job on time and on budget, but they will make a good journey and memorable -- to make the journey is memorable. youwe have been in the bay area since 1967. san francisco has been a key client for us. we have done continuous work for several years, and i will walk you through the time line. most of our work in the 1970's and the 1980's and the 1990's was as a construction manager, and in the last 10 years, we have done the contract of the work, so what you see is the initial center, the expansions, escalators. this is one of our -- some of our original work we did in the 1970's and the uruguayan the complex -- yerba buena complex. in the early 1990's, we were selected to manage the e
and if the outcome of the general manager of turner in san francisco. we do with the, the general manager of turner in san francisco. >> good afternoon, commissioners to radioed -- commissioners. i am very glad to be here. i will walk you through a presentation of who turner is so you have an idea of who you are about to take this journey with. not only will they complete the job on time and on budget, but they will make a good journey and memorable -- to make the journey is memorable....
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they are the generation of facebook. the people fighting now are those who used to chat on facebook. this helps indication between them. even to get international attention by spreading videos and photos. the proof of that was that gaddafi shut down the internet. in the gaza, they are getting access again. >>hat can the international community to to support the rebels? >> the most important thing is that they recognize the national transitional council as the traditional -- legitimate representative of the libyan people. that is the most important thing. they will meet in is a symbol. they will work to support the libyans financially. -- they will meet in istanbul. >> what can germany due to support the rebels? >> germany's part is important in building up the civil society. this has started already in benghazi. we have already seen this in the report. they have to learn what is the meaning of democracy, what is the meaning of being able to have the human rights and that is an important role for germany to have in benghaz
they are the generation of facebook. the people fighting now are those who used to chat on facebook. this helps indication between them. even to get international attention by spreading videos and photos. the proof of that was that gaddafi shut down the internet. in the gaza, they are getting access again. >>hat can the international community to to support the rebels? >> the most important thing is that they recognize the national transitional council as the traditional --...
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the difficulty is revenue generated in the parks do not stay in the parks. people seem to have forgotten that fact. there is no charge for protection, no nothing for revenues in the park going anywhere but the general fund. that is the reality. yet bond measures that are passed for recon park facilities only go for recon park facilities -- for parkin breakfast selectees. -- for rec and park facilities. there is no guarantee it gets transferred into public use. we now have the parade of terrible that presented itself to you today in which concessionaires and private folks earning public profits continue that, while undermining broad public financing of those facilities. it starts and ends with the public. that is why this measure needs to be passed. it gives the public the guarantee that parks will remain free. then we all roll up our sleeves. all of our bosses, the people of the city and county of san francisco, have spoken. we will figure out how to pay for it. but first comes the mandate. supervisor avalos: thank you very much. >> i am nancy wuerful. i thi
the difficulty is revenue generated in the parks do not stay in the parks. people seem to have forgotten that fact. there is no charge for protection, no nothing for revenues in the park going anywhere but the general fund. that is the reality. yet bond measures that are passed for recon park facilities only go for recon park facilities -- for parkin breakfast selectees. -- for rec and park facilities. there is no guarantee it gets transferred into public use. we now have the parade of terrible...
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that is the general concept. >> can i ask for clarification? the 30 megawatt was for the shell portion. that peace is on a local builder out portion, right? >> let's talk about the financing. what we want to do is to financial assistance. the way that you build something is that you have investors or customers. what they would like us to do is to build something with need their. the only investors would be the puc. if we don't have any program, we have no customers. thinking that there is a program that you could build out local generations without a source of funding does not really work. i think that some of the stakeholders have understood which took us several years to explain that they're not free. if you issue bonds, someone must pay them back. if you're going to issue bonds, you have to of customers to pay them back or have some revenue stream to pay them back. that is not a clear concept that is in this scope. this scope says that you should be building. that is not something that works for me. there is a lot problems to try to go out an
that is the general concept. >> can i ask for clarification? the 30 megawatt was for the shell portion. that peace is on a local builder out portion, right? >> let's talk about the financing. what we want to do is to financial assistance. the way that you build something is that you have investors or customers. what they would like us to do is to build something with need their. the only investors would be the puc. if we don't have any program, we have no customers. thinking that...
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>> you have to remember the general and chief had a ban on the press. reporters are not supposed to go to the potomac and was happy with the press coverage it was all based on rumor and nothing was passed out about what was going on and so everybody they would tag after every soldier they could find what they thought about the situation. i am sure there is a great deal of panic in philadelphia and harrisburg the governor was all upset because they were sure they would not be the target. >> if lee was able to invade maryland south of washington on the eastern shore, you would have made a favorable welcome because that was a broken part of maryland but the topography, geography, logis tics were such she could only cross the river of preferred and invade the western part of maryland which was strongly unionist. the reception in frederick in the western part was cool to the confederates especially and can't -- contrast to the tumultuous welcome for the army of atomic when they reach into frederick september 13th. and rights to his wife to say he is being sh
>> you have to remember the general and chief had a ban on the press. reporters are not supposed to go to the potomac and was happy with the press coverage it was all based on rumor and nothing was passed out about what was going on and so everybody they would tag after every soldier they could find what they thought about the situation. i am sure there is a great deal of panic in philadelphia and harrisburg the governor was all upset because they were sure they would not be the target....
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the general concept is we are here today to get your feedback. the resolution is adopted and it will be presented to the board of supervisors during august and september. we would bring that back to you. the thought that we have been trying to aim toward this having all the elements being part of the same commission packet so that all the elements are being voted on together and the beginning of 2012, execute the contract and go through the customer education and marketing and outreach process. opting out at the time when the flat generation rates -- i am happy to answer questions and there are some financial slides to go through you with you all. >> i have more later but why do we not proceed? >> how are you? >> that afternoon. i have five brief slides that summarize what we know now would be this potential impact. if i may go through those. the overarching program is in addition to be a 4.5 year term structured contract with shell north america. $30 million or $40 million in cost revenue expenditures. what we're showing you here is half a year f
the general concept is we are here today to get your feedback. the resolution is adopted and it will be presented to the board of supervisors during august and september. we would bring that back to you. the thought that we have been trying to aim toward this having all the elements being part of the same commission packet so that all the elements are being voted on together and the beginning of 2012, execute the contract and go through the customer education and marketing and outreach process....