not georgia the nation as in russia, but georgia the state as in right here. s have been protesting a lot of different state law making in georgia, laws about gun control and about public education, among other things. people have been getting arrested in georgia. but the civil disobedience that went on today in georgia's state capitol was a little bit different. a little different because of the subject of the protest, the size and the drama of the protest and also because of who exactly got hauled off in handcuffs. really dramatic footage out of georgia. coming right up. stay with us. co: i've always found you don't know you need a hotel room until you're sure you do. bartender: thanks, captain obvious. co: which is what makes using the hotels.com mobile app so useful. i can book a nearby hotel room from wherever i am. or, i could not book a hotel room and put my cellphone back into my pocket as if nothing happened. hotels.com. i don't need it right now. (music) defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. high

not georgia the nation as in russia, but georgia the state as in right here. ave been protesting a lot of different state law making in georgia, laws about gun control and about public education, among other things. people have been getting arrested in georgia. but the civil disobedience that went on today in georgia's state capitol was a little bit different. a little different because of the subject of the protest, the size and the drama of the protest and also because of who exactly got hauled off in handcuffs. really dramatic footage out of georgia. coming right up. stay with us. what if a photo were more than a memory? what if it were more than something to share? what if a photo could build that shelf you've always wanted? or fix a leaky faucet? or even give you your saturday back? the new snapfix app revolutionizes local service. just snap a photo and angie's list coordinates a top-rated provider to do the work on your schedule. the app makes it easy. the power of angie's list makes it work. download snapfix for free. every mattress at mattress discounte

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the protest at the georgia state senate was the largest to date monday georgia, an outgrowth of the northarolina moral monday movement, which has staged regular rallies against a republican since last april. the tuesday's action in atlanta, nearly 40 people were arrested road testing a bill that would bar the expansion of medicaid. georgia has the fifth highest number of uninsured people of any state in the country. under the affordable care act, an estimated 650,000 additional residents in georgia would be eligible for medicaid. but the state is one of a number of republican-lead states that have opted out of such medicaid expansion. moral monday protest have taken place at the georgia state capitol since cheney where he. glory, glory, we need health care glory, glory, we need health care ♪ protest in south carolina, 17 members of a truthful tuesday coalition were arrested outside the statehouse in columbia. it was the group's largest action, bringing its total arrest to 39 over the last three weeks. we go back to georgia where we are joined by dr. reverend raphael warnock who serves as

the governor of georgia's name is deal. it's nathan deal. sed a new solution to georgia's vexing problems of all its hospitals shutting down. if the rural hospitals are shutting down because they have to treat people at the emergency room, but none of these uninsured patients can pay for the treatment, if that is the crux of the problem, rather than turning those uninsured patients into people who can pay by giving them insurance, governor deal has decided, let's fix the other side of this problem. let's fix the ronald reagan sigh of this problem. let's repeal the requirement that hospitals have to treat people. that's his big idea. that would do it. georgia governor nathan deal has now proposed this. he's turning down the option that would get 600,000 more people in his state to have health insurance. he's turning that down and enseed stead is proposing that the solution to georgia's problems is for the federal government to repeal the reagan-era law that says if you turn up at the hospital while you're in labor or while you're having a hear

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this bill seriously passed the georgia legislature by a vote of 112-58 last thursday. back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is up next. >>> good evening, americans and welcome to the ed show live from detroit lakes minnesota in the north country. let's get to work. >> those already in line for enrollment by phone or web site will be able to complete their transaction. >> what the hell is this, a joke? >> they know they're going to end up way short of their target so they're trying to string it out. >> why won't the white house just officially delay the mandate all together? >> yeah, you don't need health insurance until you need health insurance. >> but that deadline, six days away, they're backing off on that. >> well, just keep moving the goalposts further and further down the field. >> there has been a last-minute surge in demand. >> 5 million people signing up for the affordable care act so far. >> obamacare isop

the state of georgia, by the way, has already seen an 83% increase in justifiable homicides since itstand your ground law was enacted. the bill passed the georgia house by an overwhelming majority last month and now house republicans are using a procedural maneuver to try to force a vote in the senate before the legislature adjourns later this week just a few days from now. by adding their latest version of the bill to another apparently less controversial gun bill, that one designed to allow certain judges to carry firearms. will anyone be barred from carrying guns anywhere inside the state of georgia by the time the legislature adjourns this week? the answer is not entirely clear. joining me, a survivor of the virginia tech mass shooting in 2007. senior policy advocate for mayors against illegal guns. colin, one of the most controversial elements of this bill which was so controversial, was taken out, would actually have allowed guns to be carried on college campuses. am i right? >> right, but that has been removed because the overwhelming majority of board of regents in the state a

is the option of georgia and nato membership still in play? > well, i would tell you i think one of the things that needs to be done very promptly is to show to the world and particularly to the countries in central and eastern europe that the door is still open to these western institutions. so i think, for example,mont, montenego osought to be made a member of nato. georgia ought to be given an action plan to put them on the road to nato membership. we ought to affirm what was said in 2008 that nato believes ukraine, if it wants, should become part of nato. the eu similarly should begin anand reopen association agreements with georgia, with ukraine, with moldova and make clear that ultimately when they meet the criteria, they can be part of europe. that will send a strong signal to these countries, but also by moving them into the western framework, it will bring stability to the region and avoid presenting russia with targets of opportunity to do sort of operations in georgia and crimea and again in other places. >> charlie: michael, back to

the actions in georgia are decades old, the actions in moldova decades before that. georgia is not the ukraine, moldova is not the ukraine. and we -- i have argued in this room that we should not put controversial energy policy into this resolution, and i think we've been successful in having only the minimal and the most least controversial statements about energy. there are those who say the imf reform should be in this bill, and i -- you know, that's -- that's an important cause, but it adds controversy. it's -- the imf reform would have some applicability to the ukraine, but it's not immediate, targeted, focused on today's situation in the ukraine and as a news flash, a note was handed to me that senator read hase red he may remove that from the controversial bill on the ukraine. we ought to focus this on the ukraine. we'll have plenty of time in the weeks to come to focus on moldova and georgia. >> will the gentleman yield? >> i'll yield. >> thank the gentleman for yielding. if you look at this bill so far, we're dealing with the internal politics of riussia, we'

the presiding officer: the senator from georgia. mr. chambliss: mr. president, i rise today to discuss promises made and promises broken. of hypocrisy and politics, of the difference between the photo op speeches, press lees and real action. let me start at the beginning for those who are joust joining us in this decade and a half battle. the panama canal is about halfway through a $5.25 billion expansion wilson bridge accommodate the larger post-panamex vesms too large to transit the current panama canal. these ships are the length of aircraft carriers, from the waterline they are 190 feet tall or nearly twice the height of the lincoln memorial. the ships can carry as many as 12,000 containers or translated into tvs, a million flat-screened tvs. thus the united states must be prepared to accept these larger vessels by 2015 when the panama expansion is complete. the port of savannah in savannah, georgia, is the second busiest u.s. container exporter, handling 13.2 millions of tons in exports in 2012 alone. it's the busiest port on the east coast. in or

back in 2008 when the georgia war was going on, the chinese did abstain from that particular conflict. china normally votes with russia, but they abstained in 2008. and they feel today saturday ahead of the vote is the best time they have to get china to abstain. you have 13 members voting in favor of the resolution. they hope china abstaining and russia using its veto to say no. just briefly, there is a sense that crimea is lost. the vote is going to go the way of moscow tomorrow. we know because we've heard from phil and jen that there is a lot that has to happen for the country to take on crimea, but nonetheless what this is also about is sending a message from the security council to moscow that they don't want any involvement by russian forces in eastern ukraine, which is also part of the country which whichs very much moscow. this is a warning for the entire rest of the world. there is not one military involvement in eastern ukraine. >> john terrett joining us live from the united nations. thank you. >> thank you. >> one of the ethnic groups caught in the middle of the struggle

comparisons have been made to the russian, georgia war. e conflict lasting five days and russia won. it begone over two disputed territories, south ossetia. in the year leading up to the conflict both countries accused the other of attacking citizens. georgia made the first move, launching an attack. russia retaliated. five days later the war was over. the result russia controls that area. >> for more on putin's response, let's turn to seven fish. a political science professor. first i want to get your thoughts on the comparison. do you feel like russia is following a similar path with the ukraine? >> it's a very different situation. the situation in ukraine is qualitatively different. in georgia there was a qualification from the georgian side. there's no provocation from the ukrainian side. in the georgian case territory to russia occupied and de facto controlled with what was in georgia, was attacked by the georgian government and they tried to take it back. russia retaliated, going south of the territory, mixed it up and retreated a few

let's go to ryan chilcote. >> we are joined by the president of georgia and the republic of georgia. ade a war of russian. what brings us to the ukraine? it has been many years and i was persona non grata. as soon as he was ousted, i was have two expect that we will help with advice because we have experienced. >> are you part of the anti-russian crowd. >> we all became friends. way, they did not really want to. >> what is the endgame? it is historical and sentimental. american companies are there. what has happened is that russia loves the biggest buyer of gas in europe and it has really shrunk. potentially, they have big energy plans for europe. >> it is not proven yet. >> if it turns out that american companies are there -- >> let me ask about the united states. >> yeah. crimea, the have gas and -- but let me ask you about the united states role. you had friendly relations with george bush and you had good relations with the obama administration. i expect that you feel that the administration was not as helpful to georgia as they could have been and will not be as helpful in the uk

the gentleman from georgia. mr. johnson: mr. speaker, i think it's appropriate that i utter this saying. show me the money. and when the money is there, projects can start being funded and work can begin, and workers can start working and getting paychecks. and in that way we will -- we will reinvigorate this economy, but we got to have instead of anti-regulatory bills, we need job creation bills. and with that i will -- i will yield the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from florida is recognized for 2 1/2 minutes. mr. webster: thank you, mr. chairman. i would like to yield two minutes to the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. marino. the chair: the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized for two minutes. mr. marino: thank you. . chairman, i want to just highlight some construction that's taken place in the past before we had all this regulation. san francisco bay bridge construction started july 9, 1933, and the bridge opened up on november 12, 1936. chesapeake bay b

i was warning prior to the invasion. georgia will come and then the new ukraine will come. putin is following his blueprint all the way through and coincidentally it happened both times during the times of the olympic. first it was the beijing olympics and now it's the sochi olympics and the blueprint is exactly the same. same scale, so-called unidentified troops of the russian army and we've seen them and we know them very well. we know their handwriting. it's exactly the same thing and we are talking right now about full-scale legally and technically full-scale military invasion. that's all it is. they will gradually build it up. it's not based on some mass scale. putin is not even disguising it anymore. we are talking about 21st century invasion of 45 million people country as a response to a democratic revolution that fled to russia. >> as you're speaking, this news is just coming in. mike rogers has just put out a statement that's very significant for people watching around the world tonight. quote, it appears the russian military now controls the crimean peninsula. th

i do want to make the point about georgia, though, and the different of the reaction to president obama in ukraine and bush in georgia. the best georgian troops were actually in iraq fighting with us in the iraq war. president bush made the decision that we were going to fly c-17s with georgian troops into georgia. russia made a comment that would be an act of war, the united states getting involved. and the president said, we're doing it anyway. and they didn't do anything. many troops near tblisi and we saw a couple vessels steam into the black sea. >> are you arguing now that you think the united states should respond militarily to this situation? >> no, this is a different environment. ukraine's far different. we never got involved militarily in georgia, but there were limited options we had like bringing the best georgian troops back to fight the russians. >> you did have george w. bush face a similar situation. you don't think he should have gone in militarily, aggressively start some war. this president is not doing this. i don't understand how the critique is -- wouldn't you agr

in the republic of georgia. to talk about the gravity of the latest developments kurt voelker, the u.s. ambassador to georgia during the invasion. i've heard the comparison but what's the distinction between what happened in georgia and what's going on now in crimea? >> i think there's a couple of distinctions. there's an internal conflict inside ukraine, or just pro-yanukovych in a corrupt crony istic system. the crack down on yanukovych and the killing of a lot of people and as those protests escalated, he fled the country. nothing like that happened in georgia. what you had was a soldly pro-western government, put in place significant democratic reforms, economic reforms and was really doing quite well. and russia had, through u.n. mandate because of past conflicts, the right to put peace keepers into these two regions in georgia. what russia then did was take advantage of that ability under the u.n. to significantly reinforce its presence and effectively break away those territories from georgia. there was a

the ukraine and georgia have similarities, one is they have ports. second one is they are a nexus, transmitting energy with pipelines and in the case of georgia rail lines, if you control georgia, you can control energy from the east and control yugoslavia, you can stroll energy. those two things. and the historical involvement, i take us back to the gentlelady from ohio who laid out the case of the 1994 treaty that the russians signed and the interested parties signed that all would respect the borders of the ukraine and the russians violated that. i don't expect much of anything else to happen. i don't think they are bound by their honor. but only bound by the limitations of the static tensions that comes from power and that power can be political and economic. but it is in the highest degree, its military. and when there is no military deterrence in place, putin is demmed to move forward and reconstitute the old soviet union. he lamented, the worst thing that happened was the implosion of the soviet union, the diss expression of the soviet union. t

the brilliant liz ann sonders on new trends in hiring. governor of georgia is trying to create his own hollywood of the south. even when they say it's not it is always about money. melissa: billionaire hedge fund manager bill ackman locking horns with herbalife. preparing to launch the latest attacks on violations the company allegedly made in china. ackman betting a billion dollars he lands a knockout punch against herbalife. jonas max ferris is in the herbalife corner. fox news contributor. andrew keane is representing the ackman team. the whistle blows] melissa: you know what that means. jonas, what do you think? >> the guy is right, it is basically a multilevel marketing pyramid schemes like a lot of businesses are and selling placebo like elixers and aloe and problem is that is not illegal. cvs, walgreens, whole food sell stuff with questionable nutritional benefit at very high markup. the government will not step in and crush it up, which is only way to make the short bet of a billion dollars -- melissa: i will stop you there. i will let andrew in. pro

after the russians went into georgia, we had a big debate. eeches were made and spencer made about what should be done. a very important decision was taken led by the bush administration to provide a billion-dollar atomic packets to georgia. once i became a government official, i saw the results of that billion dollar package. this is the time when u.s. congress needs to be working with the administration to put together a similar package to help stabilize ukraine in this dire moments of me. >> look back to georgia. what were the lessons of that and what would you do differently if you had to do it over? >> i think that one of the mistakes we made and it covered the administrations come i think we moved quickly. i think we had a robust set of diplomatic actions. we made some implicit security threats as well. through a managed terry and assistance in aircrafts -- we sent in humanitarian assistance in aircrafts. i think that aspect was pretty robust. i think it prevented russia from doing what it wanted to do, what should -- which was to overtu

did, six years ago when the russian forces invaded georgia. ed with that crisis at the time. his response, i was just running through some of the things he did. he sent ships to the region, suspended civilian nuclear agreement, suspended nato contacts, even sent aid to the capital of georgia and military aircraft. the obama administration we're told at this time not considering any military options. but even with all of those steps, russia stayed in georgia. they didn't back off. in fact russian troops are still there today. what can the obama administration do six years later in ukraine to get russia to pull back? >> reporter: as you know, jim, what happened in georgia six years ago in part was that the georgian leader, in order to put down a rebellion by a prorussian people, ethnic people, sent out forces to suppress them. and the russians used that as a pretext then to roll in to georgia with tanks and take over pieces of it. they still hold them today. and there's some fear that that could happen in the ukraine. and in talks earlier today w

before ukraine, there was georgia, russian invading its southern border. theident of georgia will join us live, sharing his experience of having his country invaded by russia and the former soviet state he believes that vladimir putin will target next. >> it has been two weeks since malaysia airlines flight 370 disappeared, the search in the southern indian ocean, five planes searching today and finding nothing. they are looking for two objects spotted on satellite images. containers often fall off ships in that area wimp could complicate that search. the search still coming up empty despite that massive international effort. >> a very huge disappointment to the relatives, friends and family of those people who were onboard flight 370. those five planes at times were flying as low as 1,000 feet above the surface of the ocean using electronic sensors, and old fashioned binoculars. >> the international hunt for malaysia airlines flight 370 now in its 14th day resumed this morning, after satellite images revealed possible debris from the missing plane floating on

. >>> the ukrainian crisis is similar to events taking place between russia and georgia back in 2008. i asked the former president of georgia if he thought that nato was doing enough. >> before it goes to military options. as i said, there are so many economic options, but one caveat to that. the best and it's companies should being will, and wanting to able to pay the price for sanctions to russia. it's like cutting out cancer, if you don't get proper chemical therapy, you cannot cure cancer, and the problem is when you get the therapy, you get other organs damaged, and damaged in order to be cured. and have that's the same thing with russia. gas prices will go up, and we'll lose this contract. and what about the large scale conflict in europe? ukraine, the way that putin is behaving, don't forget these kind of negotiations have -- so there's this thing that every time they neglect the situation in yugoslavia and he did it again. so putin is doing exactly the saying, and most of the people were saying absolutely the right things, but some of them still say, well, he promised us that

talking about the state of georgia. in the south i know some of my georgia friends are concerned about thinking that the georgia has been invaded and they didn't know about it. but, in any event, he watched to see what we woo do. he took one-third of the country. we said that's not nice. you shouldn't do that. you're innovating a sovereign country and we moved on. and he's still there. one-third of georgia is still occupied by the russian army. the west, the world, did nothing. so he then looked at the crimea. that was next on his list. and i agree with my friend from virginia. we should be concerned about crimea first before we're wondering about whether he's going into moll dove yeah, the rest of ukraine, estonia, belarus. those are possiblibilities. and what happened in crimea. he marched in. we watched. and dealing with putin. he has started cold war. we should be aware of this. and whether we like it or not he chose this activity. so i think it's in our national security and the security of our allies and our friend

the russian troops are still there. they're still in georgia. the pro-russian pseudo-separatist enclaves inside georgia that vladimir putin decided he was going to bolster with russian troops, those russian troops are still there. yes, john mccain has moved on from saying we're all georgians. the world happily decamped to the russian city of sochi for the olympics without protests about those troops that russia has left inside georgia. countries including our own were outraged when putin did what he did toward georgia in 2008, but over time we lost interest. and so their world, their motivations, their internal logic of what russia does, that is foreign enough and unknowable enough to us that we consistently over the decades are completely blind sided by the things that russia does even when they do them on a very large scale. also, though, that world is different enough to us that it is, i think, hard for us to sometimes stay focused on. we lose interest. they care about what they do a lot more than we care about what they do. the russian logic

didn't take a more forceful approach after the invasion into georgia. l there in those two breakaway republics. >> that's right. there was a real reverse to business as usual after the crisis. i was going back to my own work in 2008 and i found something interesting, susan rice, the campaign adviser to barack obama, now national security advisor, saying that this should trigger a full-on review of all our relations with russia, bilateral relations and multilateral. so it's interesting before the reset there was apparently the rethink. >> interesting. susan, i looked at some of the transcripts also. so many pundits viewed this through the prism because it was just three mos before the presidential election of obama versus mccain and there really wasn't a lot of talk of george w. bush at all. that might be one of the key reasons why it's different today. >> well, that's right. remember that bush was winding down his tenure in office, the events show clearly when he consulted with advisers not a single one thought they should consider military action. publi

secretary of defense, robert gates talked in his memoirs about what happened in georgia when the soviet union -- excuse me. i keep make that mistake. when russia went into georgia? >> the cliff. >> in 2008 and took over a couple of provinces there. he writes that the georgia response was par for the course for brussels, talking about the european union, that it was a tepid response. he said it reminded him of the so far yes, it is in meeting czechoslavakia in 1968, as horrified, everything was back to business as usually with the soph yes, it is within three or four months. do you think that's what's going to happen now? >> i think there are some pretty thick ties now between russia and europe. and in particular, economic ties and, so, earlier it was mentioned the potential impact on the london financial sector, in particular, the british financial sector, if sanctions were imposed on russia because there are so many rish russians who own property, who own assets in england now. >> wasn't the case in 1968, of course. so slightly different situation in that respect. with respect to germa

the modern world. esurance. backed by allstate. click or call. >>> georgiaegislature, both the house and senate have passed and nathan dele appears poised to sign into law a pair of bills, aimed squarely at denying health insurance to hundreds of thousands of georgia residents while at the same time sticking it to barack obama. the first bill makes it harder to expand medicaid in that state by taking the power to do so ingle handedly. this gives him some political cover and conveniently also gives republican constructionists a back stop should the republican governor lose re-election this fall. the other anti-republican bill is even more extreme. the original sponsor, republican state representative jason spencer explained with startling candor, that the purpose of his bill is essentially noncompliant. we're not going to help this law get off the ground. noncompliance is not a term you often here from a lawmaker as the order and principle for the law they have crafted. the term noncompliance with the law has some uncomfortable historical precedence. what thi

the into this? how are they doing politics in georgia? e nra has played out what its strategy in georgia, which has been his strategy for some years in many places. essentially to take the position that every possible expansion of statutory requirements that allow people to carry guns into spaces, eliminating any doubt about where guns might be prohibited, the strategy of the nra has been to push the boundary as far as they can and remove doubts about what the second amendment means. georgia is the headquarters of one of the largest and most influential tea party organizations. between pro-gun forces and the tea party, even in cases where the tea party organizations to not specifically endorse something. >> i want your take on what state will come next in this extreme legislation? >> that is hard to predict. as you know, a lot of states, since the massacre at sandy hook is that more states have made it easier to obtain guns then states who have made it harder. there is not really a regional focus to this. it is a mistake to assume this sou

but putin has done this before. 2008, russian troops invade the neighboring nation of georgia. he claims he is defending ethnic russians there. the same rationale for the move in ukraine. the u.s. and oourn european allies object, but six years later, russian troops remain in georgia. and now he is telling the world he is willing to use military force in ukraine and risk a conflict with the u.s. and the west. >> we are on the edge of the not cold war, but we're on the edge. >> reporter: here's why. ukraine is divided. kiev and the rest of the country yearn to join europe and the u.s. and forge a different future. while in crimea and the east where so many ethnic russians live, they look to moscow. and they have used crimea as a major russian naval base for 200 years. on friday, obama tried to send his own message to putin. >> there'll be costs for military intervention in ukraine. >> reporter: hours later, russian troops were on the move and putin was there. >> it's clear that maybe the president of the united states has been a bit naive about him and his ambitions. >> reporter:

the state. it would create 70,000 jobs statewide, that's from georgia state university. o be clear about the kind of apocalyptic vision or the stakes that the other side sees in this fight. this is a facebook posting from jason spencer, who's the sponsor of that bill, he says, when the senate appeared to try to table the legislation, i will identify the republican benedict arnold, king george iii who shipwrecked his bill to prevent the federal mymidons to receive health insurance mandates a patriot saved his country from his government. that strikes me as a fairly extreme vision about what the affordable care act and health insurance for poor people represents. >> well, it certainly has tones of success, does it not? some 150 years or so after the civil war. the sense that the federal government is the problem. it's hard to be lost on us, that an african-american happens to occupy the white house at this point. and it's quite ironic, chris, during this debate, we're americans, and so we debate these things and we debate them fiercely, there were those that talked about de

so if the invitation and it does happen will we see of a repeat of the georgia war the five d georgia war that happened about five and a half years ago when russia invaded our way or the observer is included in that year a chance to ex presidents have to spend the food back to our cherished and scenery in is being depicted in ukraine right now that i have to think that there are several differences between ukraine and jarrett jack. for example that the young who support for him to intervention and domestic support for into an intervention into ukraine is much weaker in the crash and then it was i in the georgian piece of tissue pretty as the russians are slobs. they are so called pregnant people preparing nations and to their own interest me never to see families out where and which consist of family members who have i read that it's on both sides of the border and down that the sultan expert not forget that sam ukraine is much be directing the jury can impact a test of larger population still if the team decides to wait till we're on to ukraine i e will cost significantly more than a

whiton, you were involved with the georgia thing, all right? in august 2008 only three months before president bush left office putin tried the same play, all right, in georgia. but the georgians shot at the russian troops there was excuse-maker there and eventually putin pulled out most of his troops there do you think that's what's going to happen in ukraine. >> i don't know. no one really know ifs russia is going to take the next step of invationd eastern ukraine. georgia, that's a problem that we keep looking at these things in isolation. it's a problem the bush administration did make before hillary and obama reset relations with russia. essentially condoleezza rice did it too. you get things like the invasion of georgia annexation of territory. going back to your earlier point, there are steps we can take right now. if we label certain russian banks as primary money laundering concerns, the treasury department tomorrow can start making putin feel economic pain. >> i know that to be true. now, colonel hunt, you sound a little dubbish here.

how safe might georgia be? >> the question is, how safe should georgia feel? i think the fact is -- having talked to a couple of georgians who attended a conference. they do not feel safe. they do not feel in the least bit safe. in fact, they feel threatened. and of course, those kinds of feelings, whether rational or irrational, it doesn't come into it. and if you are afraid, you are afraid. and when you've already lost 20% of your territory, which georgia has, and you see what has happened in crimea, and you see both the eu and nato basically slamming on the brakes whenever anybody mentions any notion of georgia coming into the eu or nato, you think, well, what is our future here? we've got president putin up there eyeing us. and to the west, which is the direction we want to go, and it is a very disturbing situation for georgia. i do not expect president putin to move on georgia today, tomorrow, or this year. but that possibility is there, and he knows it's there. that is the way he wants it to be. to come back to your question, i do think it is a serious ch

russia spread information to make georgia the enemy. they stole part of georgia. with putin and viktor yanukovych, there can be no diplomacy. we have no choice but to defend the country ourselves. >> so clearly the government here are worried, using aggress if language, are they capable of acting, sending the military in. they have given no indication that they can do it yet. nick schifrin live for us. we'll visit with you in a moment. we want to get to the united states where president obama has been working the phones, speaking with the russian president and the leaders of france and canada. libby casey joins us in washington with more on this. what did the president say to the world leaders? >> a 90 minute phone call with vladimir putin. that in itself is noteworthy. the white house says president obama expressed deep concern over russia's clear violation and a breach of the international law. all carefully and tensionally chosen phrases. the read out shows that the united states calls on russia to de-escalating tensions and says: >> now, the white house is tryi

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he was the previous president of georgia. many have compared his current invasion to the invasion of georgia in 2008. i am pleased to have him here on this program from kiev. think theat you russians are up to and how far they will go. putin wants to grab the crimea for good. he wants to advance his political agenda. he wants to feel like a strongman all over europe. there is one basic reading crimea. there's shale gas. ofmea has almost 100% ukraine's shale gas reserves. ukraine would be a big exporter of shale gas. that would mean that russia would lose its biggest customers in europe. ukraine would get a major alternative source of energy. putin basically killed the whole idea of energy independence for ukraine. not many people talk about this. there are american companies that have interest in the shale gas. a big political gamble. ukraine, there is long-term destabilization. >> what does the west have to do to stop this. >> there are lots of things at stake for the west. there are big challenges. now is really happening th

it's very similar to what we saw during the invasion in georgia. e russians consolidated their power on the ground in georgia as talks were going on. and it looks like that is what they are doing here as well. the idea is to keep people talking delay the talks, distract people, keep the situation away, so the territory will be de facto russia. >> thank you, phil ittner. >>> the east has relied on russia for trade. al jazeera jackie roleland takes a look. >> reporter: the revolution has brought bad news for this industrial plant in the eastern town. a russian customer has delayed signing a big contract for machine tools until it becomes clear which way ukraine is heading. under the new boss the factory is diversified into wind turbines, but still relies on russia for more than 60% of its business. >> europe market is completely different. our business not well prepared to europe market. our production not competitive in europe market. >> reporter: in the regional capitol a new governor has just been appointed. the economy is one of his most urgent pr

. >> that essentially in the same mind of the soviet republic of georgia had the same assurances and later doing his own thing. >> did you talk to bush people today. >> there is one big point we stop them because the bush and the military access he brought back from iraq the georgia military so we did stop them but the issue is for the president's jobs to go to the eastern ukraine i hope he can and will do that. >> to have no intention of backing down but the russian market on paper says he is not a rich man but he sees that melts away what do you make of that? >> with the oligarchs. they feel the pain. presidency reluctant -- and reluctant partner. >> i will not trade him today. >> with the point of all that? >> but they put themselves in putin pocket. via the issue is with the chairman of the jury chief of staff there all nato allies we should send the military over these are our nato nations it is worse still and nobody said military conflict chairman with the joint chiefs of staff these are nato nations. it is through deterrence and strength. the nation's better eastern european

georgia. that is the reality of today, is that we accept it, is that we accept the defactto russian occupation of two regions of georgia. it didn't stop us from going to the olympics. it didn't stop anything. it didn't stop the g-8. the fact is that putin is the one who gets us. >> stay here. we want you at home to weigh in on today's fireback question. who has a stronger hand in the crisis in ukraine? tweet putin or obama using #crossfire. we'll have the results after the break. we'll also have the outrage of the day. i'm outraged that anyone would be surprised by what vladimir putin is doing. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it's cloudy, we use more natural gas. this ensures we can produce clean electricity whenever our customers need it. ♪ phone: your account is already paid in full. oh, well in that case, back to vacation mode. ♪boots and pants