don't tell you why a person has scored high or low, but they are good predictors like the s.a.t., the grethe various iq tests and mechanical tests, et cetera, so i think you're trying to blame the messenger for the message. a more substantial comment is, the real problem with the public schools -- and i went to a public school -- until graduate school -- is the teachers. the teachers were lousy when i went there, and i got a pretty good education, and then when i got into college, i learned what real teaching is. and moynihan, senator dan all patrickman moynihan of number, spoke about the dysfunctional family during his tenure at the nixon administration, and he was roundly -- you economy, insulted for it, and it's gotten worse. it's gotten much worse since the late 60ss and i think that's the problem is the family, the difference funkal family. the -- the dysfunctional family the mother with no man around and five kids. >> host: david, leave it on those two points. thank you very much. bernadine dohrn, his second point was about the family, and your center at northwestern is called? >> g