the board of supervisors, the h.p.c. could do one 90 day, but in order to get the 180 dayses, they have to have a buy-in from the supervisors. i think i get it now. >> that is correct. miguel commissioner sugaya: under the h.p.c.'s version, once it is initiated, there is stop work for a period of 180 days. >> that is correct. the discussion is about the extension. and under the way the h.p.c. words it, and that can be extended for another 180 years. and the historic commission and there and can be offered to the historic commission property. and supervisor weiner's amendment lessens that. and increases the amount of oversight in the extension. >> okay. that actually concludes the changes that i have summarized for article 10. moving on to article 11, i will note that most of the changes that were made in article 10 have v a corollary in article 11 and rather than go through them in detail, i summarized them on this slide. section 11.11.07 are procedures for designation. section 11.11 deals with applications for permit to

what the h.p.c. was going to do is discuss consensus after the adoption of the amendment and we were going to set this aside and talk about what kind of buy-in we as a commission needed from a residence or resource from a potential district before it was established. the 66% creates an odd situation because then if someone -- if that group applies to the department with an application, they have to have a 66% approval but there is nothing stopping a group of people with a petition coming to either my commission or board of supervisors and saying please initiate this. it creates a confusing situation. you have two different ways for the public to ask an initiation. we have had rather confusing discussions about this at my commission and it is a confusing subject. this is one that merits more discussion. and i think there is a lot of not considered best practice around the country and i think to establish a district there does have to be buy-in for the district. it is a question of how the commissioner

and there is a difference in the way the h.p.c. and the planning commission typically reviews legislation. and i just want toing a knowledge that the h.p.c. has gone through line by line each ordinance, article 10 and 11. today my presentation is summary but it is a fairly detailed summary and you may wish to discuss each topic individually or you may want to cut me short. i want you to encourage me if this gets too detailed at any point. the first topic is designation and this is article 10. and the existing article 10 allows five bodies to initiate landmark designation for individual properties and the planning commission and the arts commission and to issue that resignation and the planning commission and in the exist ing article and may initiate designation of the historic district. >> and as o proposed in the revised article 10 and i apologize there is a typo at section 10.401 and this is reflected in the draft ordinance. and the planning department and property owner or any member of the public may request and the term we used

and i think that is what the h.p.c. would like to engage in conversation with. >> just a couple of things since commissioner moore mentioned and in with the permits and and historically used and whatnot. and we should extend the argument to not requiring green energy saving. >> what was that? >> exempt them from using energy saving windows and insulation and how that is triggered. if there are triggers to that and i do know there are triggers with a certain amount of rehab that seismic comes into play. and as far as the balloting and to consider it for the area pla plans. and the eastern neighborhoods and market octavia and maybe we should propose to do it in japan town. and that is something if we're thinking about doing one type of planning and as far as surveys, the surveys at times i think i see them as a planner and part of the data collection effort. and what kind of properties there are and the uses there are that all goes into the database from which the plan emerges and from that standpoint, i am not talking abo

these complex set of amendments and am very pleased that the h.p.c. will have the ability to comment on the full breadth of the amendments and i think that is a good process. immaterial to talk brief h -- i want to talk briefly about the secretary of the interior standards and in the packet of the letter of november 1 that lays out all the positions on supervisor weiner's memorandum to date to make the secretary of interior standards required for all work within districts and we feel that this is the appropriate standard for landmark buildings and the contributors and the buildings we are worried about are the vacant parcels and the noncontributory buildings and while the current set of historic districts are relatively discrete, relatively small, the series of districts that are currently coming out of the survey process are much larger and they represent a wide diversity of of building psychology. and in western soma is something that sticks out. and in the remaining seconds i want to draw the attention by supervisor weiner and his amendments that ex