the indian ocean as well. you still have to contend with the fact that china has big deployments within tibet, and a border dispute if you look at the indian/china border, territory claimed by china, ongoing incursions' into this area. again, if you are india, you are becoming a world power, you want your seat as an major player in world affairs, you have to be concerned that the chinese are encroaching on your territory and might complicate things for you if you are concerned about lines of communication. what has india done since the 90s to content with this emerging strategic environment? number one is it is spending more on defense, quite a bit more. particularly more on the maritime and air dimensions, looking at possibly 3 carrier strike groups as well as nuclear submarines, and also it had a major exercise last year with japan, australia, singapore, and the major mollah bar exercises, countries that have interest in the indian ocean. the defense diplomacy, if you will, is multi dimensional. i don't think defense trade is based on market forces, so the russians in general tend to be very important to india.

>> i would put this in the larger context of latent and dormant indian concerns about china's rise and what it means within south asia as well as in the at's desire to play a greater role in southeast asia in particular, it is shaving regional institutions, and the economic activity as it, quote, looks east. there has been a long time suspension -- suspicion within india that china has been trying to way it down with -- continuing to keep the border issue, not as heightened in tension but festering and not resolved with incursions' in what india claims as its own borders and to keep speak to that issue sensitive and put pressure on the indians in terms of how much tibetans and the dollar llama can speak out. we saw this in the tibetan uprising, how much pressure was put on india to try -- it is hard to do this, to try to indians to put some claims on pakistan and south asia when they want a wider perspective of security matters, maritime issues in particular. i would put that in my contacts and the chinese have no incentive to resolve the dispute as long as it serves the interests of d

the quality place in. black people, indians, the south of the world, china, india, i don't know. so many callers to be added to our rainbow, which is much more beautiful than the of their one in the sky. >> host: i don't know if people will realize what kind of book this is because this is not a history book. it is not an awful. it is not a work of nonfiction serious analysis. it is a book of stories. and i think the camera will catch this. this is how long the stories are. sometimes the stories or half a page. most of the time they are between one or one and a half pages. just for fun, would you read the first story in the book just to give an idea? >> guest: bourn of desire -- life alone, no name, no memory, it had hands but no one to touch. it had a tongue but no one to talk to. life was one and one was known. then desire drew his bow. it split life down the middle and life was to. when they got sight of each other they laughed and and when they touch each other they left again. >> host: i think that is a great example and of course it made me think of genesis. >> guest: they

the place. black people coming indians, the south of the world, china, india -- i don't know. so many callers to be added to our rainbow which is much more beautiful than the other ones in the sky. >> host: well, i don't know if people will realize what kind of a book this is because this is not a history book. it is not a novel here it is not a work of nonfiction serious analysis. it is a book of stories and i think the camera will catch this. this is how long the stories are. sometimes the stories are half a page. most of the time they are between one and one-half of pages. just for fun would you read the first or in the book just to give us an idea? >> guest: born of desire. life was a loan, known name, no memory. it had hands but no one to touch. in it had a tonga but no one to talk to. and life was one and one was known. and then desired in the view he spoke. when i caught sight of its other big laugh and when they touch each other they left again. this mack i think that is a great example and, of course, it made me think of genesis. >> guest: they are part of real life o

the u.s. site about bringing in china and india to undertake actually commitments to reduce carbon. on this in china and on the same scale, indianemissions are very well below. it doesn't link them because of sheer size. they are about fourth on absolute levels. if you go by per capita levels in india is only 37. it really is way down there. and i just don't see, i mean, i would like india to take action but personally having looked, and i wrote a long paper on climate change and india three weeks, the last three weeks i have been working on. and in the end i just don't see how india can undertake such commitment at this stage. what you have is a country with 300 billion people who live in idrb and then start undertaking its own obligations as well. that's where i come out. thank you. >> thank you, arvind. claude? 2 it's good that india is joining the human race. i think my colleagues know a lot more about india than ideal. and if they were really talking about doha so i did three things in my eight to 10 minutes. one, i would like to pick up on some of the themes that susan and arvind panagariya talk about about the trade polic

the u.s. site about bringing in china and india to undertake actually commitments to reduce carbon. on this in china and on the same scale, indian emissions are very well below. it doesn't link them because of sheer size. they are about fourth on absolute levels. if you go by per capita levels in india is only 37. it really is way down there. and i just don't see, i mean, i would like india to take action but personally having looked, and i wrote a long paper on climate change and india three weeks, the last three weeks i have been working on. and in the end i just don't see how india can undertake such commitment at this stage. what you have is a country with 300 billion people who live in poverty. you have 40% of the households that have zero electricity. there is no electricity connections. and, you know, such a low per capita consumption i don't see how that exactly going to happen. we will have to wait to see, and in copenhagen my own sense is that, you know, if an agreement happens, if there is call for it, very likely i think you lead india alone for 20 to 30 years. current level of growth of eight or 9% is going to pull

unilateral action is necessary to persuade developing countries, now we're talking about china and indian and mexico. we provide the leadership and they'll follow. the recent actions by the obama administration and by china and and other developing countries continue to prove why you have the the opposite. they continue to confirm what i've been saying, arguing for in the past decade, even if we do act the rest of the world will not. if you can believe and there are fewer people every day that believe that science has settled and man-made gases, co2, methane, are causing global warming. there are few people left who really believe that. if you are one of those who still believe that, stop and think. why would we want to do something unilaterally in america? it doesn't make sense. the logic is not tkoeuflt understand. carbon caps according to reams of independent analysis will severely damage america's economic global competitiveness by raising the cost of doing business here relative to other countries, like china. and then -- where they have no mandatory carbon caps. so the jobs and business would move overseas, m

the price of oil spike. so already china is jumping and i think with its feetfirst. and interestingly, china and i think indianoth jumped in ahead of america on this. they don't have indigenous oil either. like us they have a lot of coil and not oil. do you have the u.s., china and india, the three largest transportation oil consumers and then the two will consumers, china and india are they'll have the oil that is going to fuel the fleets that they are matching they will have. i think that will create either tremendous political turmoil on the downside or on the upside tremendous innovation. and the hope is that america will be the innovator and we will sell the world cars. but that is left to be seen. it might just be that china and india sell us their cars connect everybody watching this is wondering do you have a car? >> i do have a car. and i have a car that i am breathing life into. it's 11 years old, and it's hobbling along. and i certainly want a very fuel efficient hybrid station wagon, and they don't make one or. >> you lived in southern california and you lived in northern california. you now live h

the indian ocean has become very much more important to india. there are increasingly other major powers in the indian ocean finding it as important. if you look getting the's security perspective, you see china everywhere. you see china building port

the indians were the russians have for inaction in this regard. i'm hopeful in october we will have a bilateral agreement with china will make agreements to us about what they are going to do to solve this problem. you are entirely right, they are building one coal-fired plant in week and if they did not restrain that, the world is going to be cooked. so we have to do what we can do to compel their action. here are the two things -- #one, we can act, which we will do today in congress. two, our business community can build technologies that we are going to sell to them. ramgen company may be selling them clean coal technology. the bright source concentrated solar energy, we will sell them product and ship money back here and products to the west. i am getting tired of seeing ships coming in low in the water in seattle full of chinese products and when they go back, they are high in the water and empty. i want to start putting american products on ships and shipping them to china. there will be a giant market for clean energy technology. here is the question -- we saw in china two weeks ago and electric power plants are building, a solar cell the e

china to the list. i think once you have mentioned -- the ones you have mentioned, turkey certainly is involved, no doubt about it. i don't know how much influence the indians have in iran, maybe there are people who know more about that particular slayings ship, i just don't know. do you know? but, does anybody know? india? all right, well, anyway, i agree with you. >> okay. we can't lets you get out of here without commenting on the peace process, so i was wondering, put -- >> which one? >> right. the other one. whether -- if you could comments on the linkage to the extent that it exists, between engagement with iran and arab-israeli diplomacy. >> i think the debate which comes first is futile and pure rightly -- purile and each affects the other and if there is no progress on the israeli-palestinian front and they issue there by becomes more intractable, it's not going to help in our dealings with the -- iran. because indirectly hamas and hezbollah and others are involved and vice-versa. if we don't have any serious movement with the -- iran, not necessarily movement towards real agreement but serious movement on a whole set of negotiations in which some