the man george w. bush picked to run iraq, l. paul bremer, gave him one. >> and those who were on high before, in particular the baathists... >> narrator: he promised to purge the iraqi government. >> ...will be removed from office. >> narrator: he also issued an order that disbanded the entire iraqi military. >> you had something on the order of 250,000 iraqi men, military age, all trained in using weapons. suddenly, they were all out of a job. >> narrator: the powerful message: saddam and his sunni-controlled army were no longer in charge. >> army was the central instrument of saddam's repression of the kurds and the shia. i think the decision not to recall saddam's army, from a political point of view, is the single most important correct decision that we made in the 14 months we were there. >> narrator: but on the ground, the american military commanders could feel the effects. >> the effect, frankly, was devastating. i think that's where the seeds of what became the sunni insurgency were largely planted. >> we had, you know,

the book talks about comparing iraq to afghanistan to libya. i didn't serve in libya, but i followed it closely. and i went to afghanistan wanting to believe we could surge there the way we did in iraq and see a different can outcome. afghanistan is biblical times with ak-47s and what you can accomplish in afghanistan is very different from what you can accomplish in iraq. of course, this administration cynically told us that was the good war and surged there never actually believing in that cause. you read the memoirs of secretaries of defense, they were never invested there, which is a moral sin. to send men and women to a war you never believed in. and, of course, when you ghei that speech about the war, you told the enemy you were going to leave minute you did. it would be a joke, but it's not funny, and that's the problem. the problem is we also have an electorate today seduced by the idea that american disengagement is what's necessary. so i try to take on some of the trends today on national security and foreign policy and explain why, as

the book itself. when i was? iraq and afghanistan and guantanamo bay i carried with me a quote in a black frame. durable black frame. i always hung it and it what teddy roosevelt's map in the arena quote. if you open up the first page you'll see it. it's not the critic who count it's the man who is in the ray reina whoa has face is marred by blood and dust who strives valiantly and comes up short because there is no effort without error and short coming but who does actually strive to do the deeds and knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, into spend himself on a worthy cause, the best knows in the end to achieve highly and fails while daring greatly so his place shall never be with the cold and tim mid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. famous quote. this book aims to ask those questions of the american people today. this book is not about my life. i'm not audacious enough to believe i should writing a biography of the age of 35. i'm not a state senator from illinois. this book is also not about teddy

bush, for the iraq war. there is a lot in the background. 43, he was not going to go to the convention. he did not go to the convention in 2012, the last time around. he was not going to go to the convention but what was interesting about this is he clearly will not endorse donald trump and neither will his father. they have re: put out a statement saying we will not have any comment on the campaign. that is a way to say to reporters and others, do not ask me what i think. many thought for jeb bush's campaign, would be the bush name. his brother, george w. bush, stayed away. he did go to south carolina where the president, the former president remains popular. i want to show viewers what he had to say then. listen to what the president had to say then. >> facing challenges and prevailing. enduringsacrificing an and emerging a better and bigger person. set of coreing a principles, beliefs that are true on the campaign trail and will still be true in office. rhetoric.s not empty it is not bluster. it is not the

the sunnis. we made it sunnis support for iraq because of the composition of the population of iraq which was majority shia but a significant number of sunnis as well. that would make the task of more difficult. they told me we should defer to the prime minister of iraq because the country was sovereign. hey said at the end if described -- if i described to them the potential risks and he wants to go ahead, let him do it. i told the folks in baghdad to turn them over. just a turn over saddam, in other words. brian: how long did it take to execute him? mr. khalilzad: a few hours. brian: you are a sunni, and maliki is a shia. mr. khalilzad: right. brian: what is the difference? i have asked that question to a lot of guests. no one has really defined the difference between a sunni and shia. mr. khalilzad: 97%, 98%, they are the same. the fundamental difference is that who was the legitimate successor to the prophet. when the prophet died, mohammed, who should have succeeded him ? the shia believe that ali, who was the son-in-law of the prophet -- brian: mohammed ali? mr. khalilzad: he was the first imam

the brand. some aspire to have more established links with daesh in iraq and syria. there are a mix of individuals and groups at different stages of development, but the agencies are keeping an eye on them all. strategye to nip them in the bud. to get problems before they expand. >> is there an affiliate sort of directly to the united kingdom?

so if you want to look at the carnage of isis in iraq and syria, point to the abandonment of iraq and the abandonment of a red line in syria, and that hangs on the neck of barack obama and hillary clinton. so i, it was, you know, interesting this campaign, iraq, has been difficult to litigate for a lot of people. jeb bush, it took him a week to figure out where he wanted to be on that issue. there have been very few moments where with i've been proud of republicans on their articulation of iraq. marco rubio was asked about it, and he said it was not a mistake. iraq was not a mistake. and i remember just sitting there saying, finally, at least somebody won't cave in to, i think, that narrative. hopefully, the reality is that whoever the next commander in chief is whether it's trump or cruz is willing to truly unleash total war on the islamic state. and so what i do take issue with is the way people characterize ted cruz and donald trump's whether it's carpet bombing or the willingness to unhandcuff the enemy, is their focus is on doing whatever it takes to focus the islamic state, not

there is the core in iraq and syria. you have to shrink the core and the amount of territory they control. we are shrinking it. about 45% in iraq and less in syria but strategic lands in syria. there's the core in syria. there is the global networks, propaganda, recruiting and financing networks, then eight self-declared affiliates around the world. with one we're most concerned about is libya. so it's the core, the networks and the affiliates. so it truly is a global problem a global challenge which is why we built the global coalition. >> rose: how much support or how successful have they been in recruiting al quaida and other groups to pay allegiance to them? now, i'm using al quaida as al quaida members or some spinoff from al quaida because they have tried to establish themselves as the principal terrorist organization. >> yeah, so there's this kind of competition between i.s.i.l and al quaida. i mean, look at syria. the al quaida affiliate in syria which answers to sway zawahiril in pakistan, i.s.i.l is the same min

and then the borders of iraq were not guarded. so there was a set of policies together that did not help and added to the insecurity and violence that we saw, that the extremists such as r. kelly exploited. zarqawi exploited. we corrected it toward the end of the period that i was there, by the surge, reaching out to the sunnis, reaching out to the forces, to bring about security. violence was way down. unfortunately, when we left, the vacuum was filled by rival regional powers, tearing iraq apart. violence escalated and we have a isis now. brian: when did you start this book? when did you start the research and did you keep a diary? mr. khalilzad: i kept a diary, not every day, but often i would write notes. i started work on it, i would say, within a year after leaving the government. brian: what year was that? mr. khalilzad: 2009. i did not want to do a rushed book. i wanted to take my time. to speak, between the various people and forces internally dissipate. i had time to reflect. my goal also was to draw some lessons for futu

the borders of iraq were not guarded. gether thaties did not help and added to the insecurity and violence that we -- theat the human extremists exploded. we corrected it toward the end of the period that i was there, by the surge, reaching out to the sunnis, reaching out to the security. bring about violence was way down. unfortunately, when we left, the vacuum was filled by rival regional powers, tearing iraq apart. host: when did you start this book? did you keep a diary? mr. khalilzad: i kept a diary, not every day but often i would write notes. i started work on it, i would say, within a year after leaving the government. host: what year was that? 2009.alilzad: i did not want to do a rushed book. i wanted to take my time. i let the heat of the battle, so to speak, between the various people and forces internally dissipate. i had time to reflect. my goal also was to draw some diplomats andture intelligence officers and , andary officers hopefully, to be helpful to them. host: your government work all those years, who d

in the years after the invasion of iraq. it was a -- one of the most astounding stories i found, and the more i dug into it, the less you can tell why anybody ever thought it was a good idea at the time. in 2003 and 2004, the bush administration, cooperating with the coalition provisional authority, which was created by the bush administration, to run iraq, airlifted u.s. currency, large ballots of cash, $100 bills, of between -- i think it the cash was $14 billion in hundred dollar bills, and flew it all to iraq, and then they, through electronic transfer sent another 5 billion, and almost -- more than half of it disappeared. and that didn't mean it was all stolen. it meant that it was possibly unaccounted for or disappeared or had been wasted. and what i describe in the book is how the -- finally, after people just ignored this issue for years and years, that the special inspector general for iraq, stewart bowen, and his office, finally began to investigate what happened, and they tracked down almost $2 billion of the cash

the iraq war was the main mobilizing cause for them. they had a movement which pranced out in europe and it was the main platform for the new generation. most of the foreign fighters in middle east today could be seen as part of the new generation in islam for the movements. so are the people behind the breast attack, i argue however, at the same time first generation veterans of the network remain playing roles in them. in the shadows, behind the scenes in a sense, and also interacting with the new generation. as an illustration of the network generation of the your pain jihad, this picture is very interesting, it has not been confirmed but it is likely portrayed the coordinator of the paris network embrace by a man named maluku. he was part of the very first g hottie attacks by the algerian in 1995, this picture is most likely taken in syria in 2014, most likely. maluku escaped prosecution attacks in 1995 in five in paris and went underground in belgium. soon from there he was operating support for al qaeda for which he was arrested,

lot of us outside of the whole political by that we continue to have on the role of government, the iraqar and social issues, one of the things, troubled by the sense of breakdown of just overall social cohesion in the country, too much time staring at the phones talking to your neighbors or whether it is just the sense in the schools that citizenship is not being taught. sometimes it is more than just voting or basics but it is also about engaging with the broad community in a way that says i care about my community. i care enough to want to know my neighbors. and one of the powerful things that i would love to hear, what got you inspired to talk about citizenship with where you grew up? >> as i was writing and researching and thinking about this i havei have never thought of my parents as inherently political politically involved. they were not partisan. we partisan. we did not talk about the political party. in college is the 1st time i was introduced to ideologies, butideologies, but when i started researching and reading the speech in looking into it they always worked hard, never a

that's where we've got to keep our eye on the ball. >> what does the current turmoil in iraq do to the plans to try to retake mosul, which, of course, is iraq's second largest city and controlled still by isis? >> well, i think that's where the most immediate effect could be felt. obviously if elements of the particularly shia population in iraq are fighting each other, it's very hard to see how the iraqi military can get itself organized to move forward. i think mothers will tin to take advantage of this. if iran doesn't move quickly to restore order of the sort it wants in iraq, then things could get worse all around. you could see the kurds moving to take other territory and the government continue to fragment. as i say, i think iraq is gone, whether we like it hornt h.this is just more evidence of it. >> indeed. ambassador john bolton, thank you, sir. good to see you >> thank you gregg. >> will a portion of the brussels airport damaged in the deadly terrorist attacks in march partially reopened to passengers today. the newly repaired departure hall opening after a special ceremony.

the invasion of iraq. what the president says were the reasons were not true. people can argue, did he know it was not true or not? but whether he did or did not know what was true or not, he had plenty of reasons to question it. i think for the for suitable future, this is going to cause us continual problems. sometimes war is imperative. america's entry in world war ii was not a choice, it was imperative. but one, having the public recognize what war really is. television coverage of war tends to flatten war out. general lacks prospective, context, particularly any historical context. the very fact that you have a flat screen. it's hard to described it. with a television camera, the the work has to understand -- the viewer has to understand that the camera shows you the end beam. but it doesn't show you what is above, below, or at either side of the beam. understanding the limitations of television coverage. this business of building trust is going to be slow. but we have to start sometime. opinion, now would be a good time to start. peter: this generation of

the verification for monitoring and the islamic republic of iran. iraq with heavy water research reactor determined that iran was not pursuing the construction of the existing ir 40 reactor. they removed the existing from that reactor and they had rendered them inoperable which was part of the agreement. and they went to the agreement. they modified the fuel process line and i cannot be used for the fabrication of fuel. and it goes on with 27 seconds left. these are people who have been in iran. this is all pursuant to the agreement and had completed the modalities and inspection arrangements to allow them to implement the transparency provided in the agreement. that's what the iaea is doing. that's part of the agreement. that's what we put them for. the great advantage to us no matter what happens in the future is that up to the time the disagreement was signed, we never had people on the ground in the facilities. we were guessing about the level of progress they made. and we have people on the ground and for diplomatic purposes, i yield back. >> we wil

the iraq war we know definitively was completely illegitimate. it was based -- host: let me ask you this. some of the students who responded to president obama's speech at rutgers expressed disappointment. they said they wanted to hear him speak to them about their futures. then about the presidential race. do you think that's what students really want to hear. ? caller: not millennials. all you have to do is excavate into the psyche of the millennial generation. they are the generation of skeptics. they are the generation that examining the real core issues in their lives. when i graduated from college in had ai instantaneously job, and i wasn't a straight a student by any means. i was a c student. these children have massive crisis in their lives now. we are witnessing an entire generation being lost because these children expend huge sums of money, come out of these universities and have no jobs. and on top of this, as if this isn't bad enough, corporations rather than paying these interns are using predatory corporate constructs in order to ha

the same interests we do. defeating isis, stabilizing iraq and so on. i think particularly relevant are the views of fred hoff who was president obama's point man on syria from 2009 to 2012. somebody who understands the -- there's nobody's been closer to the obama administration's policies on syria than fred hoff. he has now come around to the view that president obama has in effect recognizes syria as an iranian sphere of interest. and did so in order to reach the agreement with them. >> i appreciate that. i think the upshot of all this, the nuclear obviously very significant. even beyond that, iran is really emerging as the dominant power in the region. how you can see that's good for our security is beyond me and i yield back. >> now recognize the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. cartwright for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, at this time i'd like to associate myself with represe representative lynch and maloney it's with great regret this has turned into political football the way it has. al mr. hannah, let me get this straigh

when hillary clinton was out spoken in the iraq war, i was a had everyone dismissing this guy as some sort of fruit cake on the peripheral. she's responsible in part along with barack obama for the rise in isis. >> it was long before hillary clinton he was outspoken and on the roared ton that. >> point taken. are you going to respond?

clearly if you recapture it, is that the end of isis in iraq? brett: it will have a significant, decisive blow. he said we are establishing a caliphate. when isis is no longer in mosul, that will be a significant blow to the entire notion of what they are inventing. however, they will not just go away. they will remain a terrorist organization. they say it was defeated in 2012. even then, they had 5-10 suicide bombers every month. you get a down to a level where it is not a threat. most important, it is not a threat to us. that is what we're focused on. charlie: let's move to syria. how strong is bashar al-assad now? have the russians pulled out at all russian mark --? what role are they playing and are they playing any role against isis? brett: the russians came in to shore up assad. since we put in place, you have to keep in mind that in order to put this in place, if this thing continues to escalate. this is a grinding war of attrition. you forget about that. and rightfully so. we have to get into a deescalate tory cycle here. also important i

the i.a.e.a. about what he thought happened at iraq. and what they actually thought of the ability of this agreement to stop iran from developing a nuclear weapon. those are the people we also listened to. it was not ben rhodes in some political spin. but if we are trying to measure this agreement, we are all rehashing this agreement. i think the best way would be to go to the i.a.e.a. because they are the ones we put on the ground and ask them to do these inspections. i would just like to come up for the record, i'm going to ask to have admitted the first two reports by the i.a.e.a., the verification for the islamic republic and iran in light of the united nations security council resolution 2231. this is an inspection done because of the agreement. i will tell you what they report. i will give you the greatest hits. they determined that iraq, heavy water research reactor. they determined iran was not pursuing the construction of the reactor. they had removed the existing from that reactor and filled it with concrete. they had stored un

the iraq war was the main mobilizing cause for them. they had a movement which pranced out in europe and it was the main platform for the new generation. most of the foreign fighters in middle east today could be seen as part of the new generation in islam for the movements. so are the people behind the breast attack, i argue however, at the same time first generation veterans of the network remain playing roles in them. in the shadows, behind the scenes in a sense, and also interacting with the new generation. as an illustration of the network generation of the your pain jihad, this picture is very interesting, it has not been confirmed but it is likely portrayed the coordinator of the paris network embrace by a man named maluku. he was part of the very first g hottie attacks by the algerian in 1995, this picture is most likely taken in syria in 2014, most likely. maluku escaped prosecution attacks in 1995 in five in paris and went underground in belgium. soon from there he was operating support for al qaeda for which he was arrested,

the citizens of iraq from this sort of sirens is their government's top priority. the administration, the united states government, has been of the strongly held view that the iraqi government is more likely to be successful in securing the country if they can succeed in uniting that country to face down the threat. that's what prime minister abadi has tried to do. he's worked hard across sectarian lines to build diverse support for his government and for the effort to degrade and ultimately destroy isil and that's why the united states has found prime minister abadi and the iraqi central government to be effective partners and it's why we continue to stand with them as they confront this serious hreat. reporter: the brazilian nat is likely -- senate is likely to -- [inaudible] -- what are the implications of that likely action for u.s.-brazil relations? mr. earnest: you heard the president talk about this when he was in argentina. our view at this point has not changed. the president noted our confidence in the durability of brazil's democratic institutions to whet

charlie: you've pointed out the politics from iraq is crucial. his essential requirement was beyond fixing the economy and the confidence of people in iraq was to appeal to the sunni tribes. the battle against isis, is that happening? maliki was an extreme center visor. incentivized in his office. he was constantly answering the phone. probably. frankly, that cannot work. creates pressure. he has a different philosophy. he said when he was coming into office that either iraq decentralize is or it will descend to break. -- disintegrate. he really believes in that. he has been a very supportive of getting local actors into the fight. you have really seen that come to fruition. bar province, about 15,000 tribal fighters are mobilized. they have marched there up the euphrates valley. ofwas a kind of fortress .sil they were able to do that because the tribes were immobilized. the tribes and security forces broke. important.s is very they are fighting with the iraqi security forces. he is been flushing resources down to the local level. an iconic city.

close to 5,000 troops on the ground in iraq up to 10,000. ident so far has resisted that but he's gone from 1,000 to 5,000. let's talk a little bit about what happened. i want to get your sense, u.s. navy s.e.a.l. killed fighting with kurdish fighter, outside of mosul. the town controlled now for two years by isis. will we unfortunately be seeing more 0 of that? >> i think so. as we get ready for a push on mosul, the iraqis have to cut off mosul. they have to isolate it from raqqah. right now there's a supply line from syria to iraq. the kurds have been very effective of cutting most of that but they have to encycle before they make a move on it. they're battling a tough road with that. they have had over a year and a half to defend that city. they have got all of the kill zones laid out and everything so it's very, very difficult and what we are seeing are kurds and isis battling for the control of the suburbs of mosul. it is very, very important. i think we're seeing the initial movement toward the battle of mosul but i don't think it's goi

bush of willingly lying to get us into the iraq war. and if you're not willing to go that far, it's interesting because you and trump are further down the scale. he's farther down the scale on the left on that issue than you are. >> i would never call him on the left. what i think is that bush's administration lied about the weapons of mass destruction. i think they knew those weapons were not there. and for that particular thing they did lie about that. >> then he's not he's tied with you on the scale. >> he's not anywhere near me. i'll tell you, he's -- if everybody gets up at 6:00 a.m. on election day in november, he's not going to make it. believe me. biggest landslide loss ever donald trump. >> this is the dvd "where to invade next". >> i know that movie. i made that movie. >> trump says you don't have to worry about this with him because he's the guy who doesn't want to start all these wars. i have to leave it at that. always a pleasure, mr. moore. >> thank you for having me on, megyn. whatever you decide to do, you're like the leb

battleground where more than 100 american troops were killed in some of the fiercest fighting of the iraq war. >> this is the most complex of missions. fighting in urban terrain. you've got a number of different forces. several different commanders. and an entrenched enemy. >> reporter: tonight defeating isis is possibly a step closer, but visibly a tough and bloody task. and many battles lie ahead. keir simmons, nbc news, london. >>> still ahead tonight, a fun evening out takes a dark turn when three friends say they saw a man slipping something into another woman's drink. what they did next made them social media heroes. >>> also, terror in the water as sharks attack on both coasts. [burke] at farmers,we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a ufh2o. [man] that's not good. [pilot] that's not good. [man] that's really not good. [burke] it happened august fourteenth,2008, and we covered it.talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ feel free to be yourself all day.... just sw

and, believe it or not, the iraq war was won by the time president bush left office. so the sales job, in effect, was done largely in this room by general petraeus, who was going to be the person to execute the strategy if he could get the funds for the troops. host: one of those if the walls could talk sort of rooms. isn't it? senator mcconnell: yes. host: next is your own personal office. correct? senator mcconnell: yes. host: how long are your days? senator mcconnell: i usually have something to do in the evening. we're either in session or i have some event i need to attend for my colleagues. so i usually get home around 8:30 or 9:00. host: and when do start? senator mcconnell: sort of normal time like most people, 8:30 or 9:00. host: so regularly 12-hour days. how much of that time is spent in here? senator mcconnell: most of my time in here. like all senators, i have another office in the russell building. we have three senate offices but i have, as a result of being leader, i have two offices and two sets of staff. the staff here deals with all of the senators.

we first met when he was a colonel on the battlefield in iraq. >> you've probably got more experience in this war than anybody i know. what has changed over the course those years between 2003 and now? >> today we're probably dealing with a more virulent strain. >> is it something that can be defeated? >> it will be and can be. first it's going require us to deny sanctuary, it's going require us to build security with our partners and require us to cut off their resources, cut off the flow of foreign fighters and undermine their narrative. >> undermining isis narrative isn't easy. as fast as one can push the "send" button, isis propaganda is spread on social media, highly horrific social media and their social media magazine "dabiq." isis claims like all jihadists to follow the path of islam's leader mohammed. >> the most common misperception that people have about isis is they're not islamic. unfortunately isis is very islamic. >> timothy furnish has a ph.d. and has written numerous books on islam including his latest, "sext, lies, and the caliphate." >> they have the upper hand in i

congress blew it on the iraq resolution. but are you suggesting to me that there is not ultimate responsibility for making the decision and evaluating the recommendations of the intelligence community on the matter of sending our troops to war, of spending trillions of dollars, throwing the mideast up into upheaval, and he is not the one who ultimately bears the responsibility for that decision? >> the president made the decision to go to war. i'm not willing to put the broad instability in the middle east on his shoulders. the middle east needs to be accountable for the middle east. >> second thing. so, we went into this war in iraq. we toppled saddam hussein. we were promised we'd make money on the war. that was testimony from some of the president's advisers. said it'd be over in 60 days and the troops would be greeted with flowers in the street. didn't work out that way. afghanistan. the longest war in the history of this country. we still have troops there. the place is a mess. nation-building. an of ganarrogant policy e

the last time, it was veterans -- i was accompanied by three spectacular, young veterans of the iraq and afghanistan wars. and my most recent book is called "charlie mike" which means continue the mission in military radio jargon, was about the veterans of those wars. and to me, it's very interesting to spend time with them as i have over the last four years. i embedded in iraq and afghanistan with them. and also to spend time with veterans of my era, of the vietnam war. they have had -- it's hard to say this, since the wars were equally silly. they have had an easier time than you guys had. they were all volunteers. many of them volunteered on september 12th, 2001. they went over as units, and came back as units. vietnam veterans went offer alone and came back alone. because of the experience of vietnam veterans, the doctors and the -- and many of the clinics at the v.a. and elsewhere knew what post-traumatic stress disorder -- actually i've kind of dropped the "disorder" part of it because it's not disorderly to respond to the experience of combat by having some troubles reintegrati

the oil industry is doing well. that is what is lifting iraq. u willck reveal the weakness of the non-oil industry, which has had three years of contraction. this underscores the urgency of imf talks. manus: a final note from you, ghanem, which is production. is continuity key? >> absolutely. not easy to maintain, though. you, bothdrew, thank of you. cornerstone global associates. rish? rishaad: let's check on the stories making headlines around the world. china sees signs of improvement in its relations with japan, but there is still a lack of mutual trust. after themmented premier met fujio kushida. ties have been strained by territorial disputes and japan's decision to beef up its military. malaysia has received a protest from taiwan after deporting 32 of the island's nationals to china to face wire fraud charges. taiwan claims victims of scams may have been worth a billion dollars a year. state media said the others are chinese nationals. bj mallya is expected to be deported from the country for not paying his debt to kingfisher airlines. he

time it was veterans of the iraq and afghanistan wars. called recent book was charlie mike which means continue the mission. about the veterans of those wars. to spendy interesting time with them as they have over the last four years. to spend time with veterans of my era. the vietnam war. the words were equally silly. time you guyssier head. they were all volunteers. ony of them volunteered september 12, 2001. units andover as quebec as units. alonenveterans went over and came back alone. because of the experience of vietnam veterans the doctors known all the posttraumatic stress disorders. it's not disorderly to respond to the experience of combat. having some troubles reintegrating into a society that knows nothing of combat. they treated each other differently. they are generation of volunteers. they've looked more recently organizations like team rubicon. disaster relief internationally and nationally. know thatrtant to when you see this horrifying statistic the 22 veterans of day commit suicide. which i had veterans of all wars and t

the public did not support by and large the war in iraq. no one took it out on the veterans and that is what the anon veterans did. a lot of them were our kids. in --host: in terms of your generation of veterans, there were some that became activists. the vast majority went on to live their lives. the stereotype began to develop a vietnam veterans as half crazy when they came home. it is a stereotype that has continued on to this generation of veterans. i would like both of you to talk about that stereotype. how real is it? a vietnam veteran invented. internet. >> if you look at some of the great entrepreneurs of this country, there are a lot of really successful people including people who have themselves struggled with ptsd. it does not have to destroy you. one of the great experts is sitting next to me. >> post-traumatic stress is why i got this lovely little dog care. the best way that i can tell anyone of you guys out there who has pts is to give back to your community. what we have is survivor's guilt. how can i lived and my friends di

the u.s. redeployed forces no iraq in summer 2014. what more can you tell us about this incident? >> here's what we know about what happened on the ground earlier today, about 100 isis fighters punching through peshmerga lines, using vehicles, suicide car bombs, even bulldozers, to punch through checkpoints and get to a peshmerga camp, where these navy s.e.a.l.s were temporarily located as military advisers. they punched through a firefight breaks out. the s.e.a.l. kill ed in that deadly action. there is no indication that the s.e.a.l. was deliberatery and uniquely targeted by isis but 100 isis fighters coming upon these peshmerga forces. what is so critical now is getting peshmerga forces ready and move their front lines forward towards mosul, iraq, a target that the u.s. wants peshmerga to get to. what does this tell us about the strength of isis in this part of northern iraq? what does it tell us about the difficulty of the peshmerga in defending their territory? jake? >> the obama administration says that u.s. forces are in iraq t

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the public by and large did not support particularly the war in iraq as it went on. nobody took it out on the veterans. that is what the vietnam veterans did. by the way, a lot of them were our kids. they would follow their fathers -- >> absolutely. absolutely true. >> and in terms of your generation of veterans, there were some who became activists because of it. and the vast majority just went on to live their lives. but a stereotype began to develop of vietnam veterans as half crazy when they came home. and it's a stereotype that has continued on to this generation of veterans. i would like to -- both of you to talk about that stereotype and how real is it. >> you have to remember that vietnam veterans invented the internet, al gore. we can't all be crazy. craziness is difficult to go back to normal. if you look at great entrepreneurs of this country, fred smith federal express, marine combat officer, saw a lot of combat. james kinsey, original founder of america online. there are really successful people including people who have themselves struggled with post tra

so at the outset, iraq is in the headlines in d.c. because of the isis crisis and the ongoing fighting in anbar and mosul, in the western and north of the country and also the chaos in baghdad. if people are following the news, protesters affiliated with the old friend al sadr recently stormed into the green zone and occupied parliament. so i'm not going to get into the weeds on that exciting stuff. i'll sort of only touch on that as it relates to some of this reform effort stuff. so certainly as the other folks on the stage here have said iraq is struggling with a lot of the same problems that sounds like algeria and nigeria and other oil producers are. namely in the time of high oil prices they didn't do a lot to inoculate themselves against a potential crash. in fact, certainly in baghdad and kurdistan, i have personally heard from people back when oil was over $100 a barrel, this message that this is going to continue because it's happened for the last couple years. therefore it will happen going forward. and i think government be

mosul is the second-biggest city in iraq. it's the next target in the campaign against i.s.i.s., but mosul is a multi-ethnic city, a multi-sectarian city. everybody wants mosul. the shiites want mosul. the sunni arabs want mosul and the kurds want mosul. one of the thing the americans are frightened of is once the campaign begins, everyone will rush in and try to take the city for themselves. >> rose: michael o'hanlon joins us. you're listening to what is being said. what do you see is the danger now to the dissension in iraq and the lack of being able to advance forward and coming at a time in which my expression was that the president and the american military and ash carter were thinking seriously about how do we enhance the campaign to take mosul? >> hi, charlie, thanks for having me. two points. on the issue of partition, i just want to reinforce what was said before and i would add the additional argument that if you were to imagine partitioning iraq and/or syria formally into a separate or two separate countries, you ha

on the iraq resolution. but are you suggesting to me that there is not ultimate responsibility for making the decision and evaluating the recommendations of the intelligence community, on the matter of sending troops to war, spending trillions of dollars, throwing the mideast into and he is not the one who ultimately bears the responsibility for that decision? made theesident decision to go to war. i am not willing to put the broad instability in the middle east on his shoulders. be middle east needs to accountable for the middle east. >> the second thing. ,e went into this war in iraq we toppled saddam hussein, we were promised we would make money on the war. that was testimony from some of the president's advisers. they said it would be over in 60 days and the troops would be greeted with flowers in the streets. didn't work out that way. war instan, the longest the history of this country. we still have troops there. the place is a mess. nation building. an arrogant policy embraced by a prior administration

amy: they were on intent at the time on attacking iraq. there's a joke of a little boy saying to his father, what's our oil doing under their sand? it's not our oil. brian: what is the motive if you are george w. bush? do you really want to go to war? you want to see americans killed over there? what's the reason? amy: it's a very good question why president george w. bush, why vice president cheney, why secretary of defense donald rumsfeld, why they committed so many innocent lives in this country. think about the soldiers who went to iraq, deeply committed to securing the united states, why were they sent to iraq? that is a very serious question. interestingly, one of the people who signed up to be in the military who wasn't ultimately, was edward snowden. one the great whistleblowers of our time. he ended up having -- his leg broken in training. he didn't go into the military. ended up working for the nsa. had a deep commitment to the united states and ended up showing it in a different way. brian: from your perspective, why do you think

for example, the iraq war. one of the things that has been mentioned, similar to bernie sanders, he was opposed to the war in iraq and against the so-called free trade deals that are made. iraq, hesue of war in was for the war in iraq. back then in 2002. he talked about being for it. >> it is a perfect example. there can be no more crucial difference that he claimed at the early republican debates. he kept saying, i am the guy who said i was against the iraq war. he said it over and over and no one challenged him until they went back and started looking at the public record and realized, wait a minute, he was for the war in iraq until he was clever isugh -- grant him this, he a smart man and recognized the disaster in the making and changed his position and started saying mildly at first, it wasn't until much later when the tide turned, he really started saying was a bad idea. i think that is a really good example of why trying to get him to own up, what were you saying at that time? to slide through this stuff

mainly over the iraq war. t, of course, there's no doubt that it calls for the european jihad networks today, is what is going on in syria and the mobilization around the islamic state and against the coalition against them. >> so in our research at new america, one of our findings is that the u.s. contact seems to actually be very different from what you've laid out. that we haven't really seen to anywhere near the same extent foreign identifyingers returning from previous conflicts to organize inside the u.s. it's mostly driven where it exists by mediated online. what do you think explains the difference between europe and the u.s., if there is one in europe? is that geographic, cultural, has the network just not extended its tentacles to the u.s. yet, but is development here allowed? >> i think that there's a huge difference regarding the strength of the networks. and, you know, the historical imbeddedness of the network when we are comparing europe and the u.s. there have also, of course, been hubs historic