that's within the irs. i don't have access to specific taxpayer level information. >> we know in the tax plan before us, we see a $200 tax break on the other side isn't going to cut it for many folks in the middle class. if you do away with the -- doing away with the deduction for state and local taxes, that's about on the average filer, 3500 bucks, compared to the 200 you are talking about in this particular -- let me be charitable in this budget. our state faces the highest property taxes in the country, like many other states, we have a high cost of living. how do you justify this revenue from middle class homeowners from high cost states like new jersey? >> again, i think fundamentally, we think that the federal government should get out of the business of subsidizing the states. we are sensitive to the transition and want to make sure that the middle income does have a tax cut. >> thank you. time is expired. mr. paulsen, you are recognized. >> thanks for being here. as you know, start ups are young firm

the public. no public official gets a free pass. irs ci will continue to assure that the elected officialed abide by their oath and fulfill their duties they were elected to fulfill. >> i want to take a quick moment to thank acting special agent in charge, floyd. the irs criminal investigation division does a tremendous job and played a crucial role in the investigation of mr. williams. with that we are happy to take a few questions. >> that is a decision that reserved for the court. judge diamond heard the evidence and evaluated the facts and applied it to the law and made his decision. >> is that anything you have seen before? >> there is not much we haven't seen. >> the city and those living in the city, another one of our elected officials having to go to prison what does it mean for viewers living at home paycheck to paycheck. >> what it mean is that they can rest assured with the federal government and the irs and hsi and united states attorneys office are always vigilant on the lookout for corrupt conduct and fairly and appropria

we'll make sure later in the year we have the irs report become to us in evaluation of this. i think it's a balance between making sure the government collects money efficiently and appropriately with making sure we don't jeopardize tax payers. so i share your concerns. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, here we go. thank you. i'm going to follow up on something that has already been talked about but i wanted to just underline it a little bit as you're moving forward just to -- to have a perspective about a program that i believe is not just bipartisan but crucial to areas where it is beyond frontier in some of our regions. community develop financial institutions fund. funding for cdfi fund has been eliminated as we talked about. in one cdfi in my district has invested over $30 million in small businesses in rural economic development, which would not have been possible without the support of this fund. that fund reped create over 600 jobs, in the county that makes up 20,000 people, 600 jobs is a life line. i will point out as well, again i come back to the imagery you us

in april 2016, the irs released its latest estimation of the tax gap. the difference between what americans pay and what they owe. was-2010, the annual gap 250 $8 billion. the largest source of that tax of stems from underreporting business income on individual tax returns. the so-called "pass-through income." the main is high percent of income misreported. partnership, as report corporations misreport. and a shocking rate of 63% others misreported. the administration does nothing to change this problem. instead it adds is a centerpiece a special 15% discount for pass-through income. it would create a powerful income for wealthy individuals to reclassify as much income as and would cost the government more than $500 billion over the next decade. are you serious about closing the tax gap? or will this pass-through income make the problem worse? the trump administration is far behind. as of last wednesday, the -- [indiscernible ] -- the president has nominated 10 of 28 of the critical post, only one of which, you you, has been confirmed. the treasury depa

for the irs, this means a cut of $260 million. built intoring in costs like inflation and infrastructure maintenance, this is closer to $630 million, on top of the $1 billion cut from the agency since 2010. in order to meet this new draconian funding level the irs would have to reduce staffing by 6000, adding to the more than 17,000 at the agency that has last years.er the this formula for expanding the tax cap, empowering tax cheats and confusing honest taxpayers. i was deeply troubled by the elimination of the community enrollment financial institutions fund which plays a vital role in spurring economic growth and revitalization and in our most underserved and neglected communities. in my hometown of chicago, they are investing tens of millions every year to provide low income families with affordable housing and neighborhoods with safety -- safe and small businesses community centers with capital growth and hiring local workers. at a cost of less than $.80 per american, this program helps cdfi's support the creation of tens of t

irs tolity of the identify wrongdoing is also in jeopardy. without adequate funding levels for irs enforcement, we will simply not have enough manpower to catch bad actors, making it very clear if you want to cheat on your taxes, this budget is for you. the fy 18 request falls far short in the fight against p hishing scams and identity theft scams which appear to be never ending. to putting to the irs of resources to be responsive to taxpayers seeking clarity on the tax code area -- tax code. originated 3 billion in loans and financed 13,000 businesses, and 33,500 affordable housing units. in our home state of new york, cdfi'sre 79 certified that have financed 950 ofinesses for a total $163 million in loans in fiscal year 16 loan. the expanded economic opportunity for underserved communities by supporting their growth and capacity of the national network of community development lenders, this elimination is income principle to me. me.ncomprehensible to anis is a request is merely forological document promisesprogress is -- and not an intent to

those people, instead of paying taxes to the irs, could use that money to purchase health care. in addition, premiums were supposed to down. they have more than doubled. choices were supposed to expand. they've been reduced. we have 83 insurers leaving the exchanges last year. two dozen more promise to leave next year. choices have been reduced in five states and about 1200 of our nation's counties. we're left with one provider. that is not a choice. we're trying to expand choices. lower those premiums. we're trying to get rid of the taxes on medical devices, prescription drugs. over-the-counter medications. that will affect americans immediately. >> you laid out the problems with obamacare. a lot of senators have questions about the senate bill. particularly those cuts in medicaid. more than $800 billion. i want to show the president's first speech when he announced for president. >> save medicare, medicaid, and social security without cuts. have to do it. >> the president right there said no cuts in medicaid. had several tweets on the same subject. this bill has more medicaid c

the treasury department oversees the irs. are they gonna get rid of that after all of the targeting that they did to conservatives? we have actually identified people. for almost every single open job. right now they all had to go through an fbi background process. it's obviously time-consuming i can and should are you that we have a lot of people that are here for the government. and several of them were already in front of the senate for confirmation we a great team here in treasury. we have an incredible career staff. we've a great team that we are bringing in. and will a lot of people that want to work here. were getting these jobs processed as quickly as we can. will the president take out them targeting conservative groups. we have lots of people that had been interviewed for the irs. we have several people in mind. her work were working to reprocess there. secretary, a rollback in regulations. what do you think will be the direct result of this rollback and regulations. what do you see happening as a result of these cha

streamline the irs. make the system simple for families and small businesses and make us more competitive globally so we can have fast erect i can growth. >> bill: these are your words. we'll get this done in 2017. i take it as a guarantee, is it or not? >> we have to do tax reform in 2017 if we're going to get a confident america and if we'll rebuild our country's resilience and get the economy we need so people can get good-paying jobs that are careers and get this growth rate up. we're really an -- anemic in our growth rate. >> bill: paul ryan, thank you.

why the irs is demanding $2 billion from caterpillar. and the interview with the san francisco fed president. finally, what went into making the sign of the summer. it does not mean we will talk about justin bieber. all that ahead on "bloomberg businessweek." we are here with megan murphy. let's talk in the politics sector. heard donald trump was not going to touch social security. turns out there are going to be a great deal of cuts. this is going to hurt some of the people that supported him. is a perfect issue to look at what he said on the campaign trail and promised versus what is actually happening. is partd be clear this of a budget that is unlikely to perceive. you hear a lot of rhetoric about disability insurance and disability benefits, being something that is subject to fraud. when you place it out, looking it out, look at this, a lot of the areas that have the highest proportion of disability recipients is counties trump carry. that is because so many people who claim disability benefits are workers forced out of manual labor

frank there is power to bold, video's personal attacks and post the irs. [applause] some people in washington state -- that is a little extreme, likeal and i mean like for donald trump as president? [applause] listen. we have a republican majority in the house, republican majority in the senate, republican in the white house. -- how about we act like it? [applause] those four priorities will define success or failure for the administration and -- congress. we deliver, seek strong constitutionalists on the court , seearound to obamacare major record reform, see fundamental tax reform, the 2017 will be a historic -- or lackluster year. this could be the most productive congress indicates. fail,the other hand, we we don't deliver on those priorities comments in 2017 would be a heartbreaking missed opportunity. say to men andto most things. none of the schnider one, thank you thank you thank you. thank you for your prayers, youion, time, energy, thank for speaking out in working to pay for our nation. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome, virginia galloway at t

fraudulent forms with the irs. in fact, tomorrow the house is scheduled to consider a social security fraud act and prohibits folks by sending social security numbers by mail. the social security administration has over 175 mlg wage earners and records on everybody living and dead. veterans administration has held records on over 800 -- the va currently uses social security as a patient identifier. protecting these numbers is important for all americans. but given that social security numbers are frequently exchanged with at most residents of society we must take utmost precaution to prevent unnecessary risk of exposure. agencies reduce their use of social security in order to mitigate the risk of identify theft. it is essential how they use, collect and store social security number and indeed all pieces of personal information they collect. i am proud to be here today with my colleagues from the oversight committee and colleagues of the ways and means committee to examine what is working and what wi we can do bett

i think he is doing a workmanlike job at the irs. thankless job. one of the recommendations of gao is we can raise revenues if we give the irs the tools they need, the people, the budget, the technology they need. for every dollar we spend in investing there we get back five or six or seven dollars and provide better customer service. people call our offices all the time and say i can't get anybody at the irs to help me. your thoughts on that? >> in the grand scheme of the budget, the irs received -- was basically protected in terms the amount of reductions that it was asked to live under for fiscal year '18. about 95% of all filers are now doing it on line. and this budget increases operations support by 6%. obviously, there are reductions elsewhere. but we felt that trying to modernize and continue to make efficiencies to move people towards filing their taxes on line can help. and we certainly agree that the irs is crucial in being able to collect the necessary amount of revenue that people owe in paying their taxes. and it's one of the reasons w

why the irs is demanding $2 billion from caterpillar. d the interview with the san francisco fed president. john williams. finally, what went into making the song of the summer. it does mean we will talk about justin bieber. all that ahead on "bloomberg businessweek." ♪ oliver: we are here with "bloomberg businessweek" editor-in-chief megan murphy. megan, let's talk about what's in the politics section. we heard donald trump was not going to touch social security. he said he's got a big heart. turns out roughly $70 billion in cuts. this is going to hurt some of the people that supported him. megan: this is a perfect issue to look at what he said on the campaign trail and promised versus what is actually happening. we should be clear this is part of a budget that is unlikely to proceed in the nation that it is right now. you hear a lot of rhetoric about disability insurance and disability benefits, being something that is subject to fraud. being played out, when you play it out, look at this on a root and branch way of how it's used, a lot

by the irs. under the structure that we have. so we can sort of observe the income that's being earned and we can do that through s.e.c. filings and others. but actually being able to capture that money i think would prove very difficult. and the reason is because we live in a very competitive environment. 50 years ago when the united states economy was more closed and we were less engaged in trade and financial markets were less sophisticated, it was easier to capture this money. but through the strategy that frank's describing, firms are locating their intellectual property offshore, and they're engaging in these strategies. will continue to do that, continue to optimize their tax system. and we can think of that as unfair and unjust and unright. but we also need to think about having a tax system that's operational. and so the incentives for firms to engage in these practices -- i'm not saying they don't. i'm agreeing with frank they do gain in these practices. is large when the difference between our tax system and the tax sy

in this week issue, by the irs is demanding to billion dollars and businessweek's interview with john williams. finally, we will tell you the song of the summer and justin bieber. all that had, on bloomberg businessweek. >> we're here with "bloomberg businessweek" editor in chief. let's talk in the politics section. we heard promises along the campaign trail. that donald trump was not going to touch social security. he said he's got a big heart. turns out that there's going to be a great deal of cuts. roughly about $70 billion. and this is going to hit some of the people that supported him the most. >> yeah. this is a perfect issue to look at what he actually said on the campaign trail and what he promised and what's actually happening in practice. we should be clear that the proposed cuts to social security and in this case disability benefits are part of a budget which is unlikely to proceed in the shape it is now. why it's so interesting is you hear a lot of rhetoric about disability insurance and benefits being something that's a subject of a tremendous amount of fraud. that's bei

there was the investigation into the irs. d one that was more than 7 years old is fast and furious. i mean, we have been in court trying to pry those documents out of the department of justice and still to this day, they will not give us those documents. and at the state department, nothing. stone cold silence. sharyl: to what do you attribute that? rep. chaffetz: i think if, if we went to the senior most people, even the president himself, they would be pulling their hair out and they would hate to hear that, but within the bowels of the organization, they just seem to circle the wagons and think, oh, we just, we can just wait you out. we can just wait you out. sharyl: well, they do. rep. chaffetz: they do. sharyl: republicans were very upset in the last few years over the irs commissioner, john koskinen, who they said allowed destruction of documents and investigations and other things. this committee, i believe, even called for him to be impeached. he's still irs commissioner even though republicans are now in charge of pre

i would like to see a flat tax and abolishment of the irs. [cheers and applause] sen.ruz: now some people in washington, they say that is a little extreme. that is a little radical. you mean like electing donald trump as president? republican -- a we have a republican majority in house, in the senate, in the white house. how about we act like it? applause] those four priorities will define success or failure for the administration and for congress. deliver, if we see strong constitutionalists on the court, if we repeal obamacare, if we have major reform, fundamental tax reform, then 2017 will be in his store, blockbuster year. this could be the most productive congress and decade. if on the other hand we fail, we do not the liver on those priorities, then 2017 would be a heartbreaking missed opportunity. menhat i want to see to the -- say to the men and women here . you, thank you. thank you for your prayers, passion, energy, for speaking out and working to retake our nation. announcer: ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage the southern regional director of

comey who was in charge of the fbi when the irs started targeting conservatives. i'm not quite sure why there would be a conflict of interest for mr. mueller, who is the special counsel that has been designated to look into this, but it was definitely mr. comey and they are the ones who decided that there was no criminal violations of law. i don't think that was correct, but that was another decision by mr. comey. >> another line of questioning. >> was there any question that the president is not real fond of this investigation? 140 werenk of multiple character expressed -- 140 character expressions that he is not fond of the investigation. i heard you share before that you are trying to keep the agents that are working on it away from any comment the president might have made. the president is in -- has informed around 6 million people around the world that he is not fond of this investigation. do you think there is a difference in that? >> yes. a big difference in taking superior officers out of the oval office, looking the fbi director of the i and saying i hope

so all i know is my one interaction with bob mueller wasn't too encouraging. >> the irs investigation>> of course. he's the fbi director. it's the number one story in the country. the president and then attorney general holder said they're going to do a criminal investigation, and the head of the fbi doesn't know anything about the case after it's been there five weeks? that's what caused people to be concerned. >> you're talking about the irs case and i know you were on the benghazi committee and there were lots of questions in getting to the bottom of that, which is the constitutional role of the united states congress. do you think that you, to your satisfaction, under fundamentally what happened with russia, what they did, and why it's the case that three associates of the president have not given truthful answers about their meetings with russian officials under penalty of perjury? >> what i know is what jim comey said last week, and he confirmed what the president said three different times, that mr. comey told the president he wasn't under investigation. mr. comey confirmed tha

the most decent people i ever met he is honorable and smart he is doing eight thankless job that the irs we ought you to raise the revenues it you got the tools the you need and the technology for every dollar we spend invested we can get six or seven to provide better customer service. so what are your thoughts?. >> in the grand scheme of the budget the irs received or was basically rejected with the amount of reductions to live under fiscal year 18. ninety-five% of all filers do it on line and this budget increases operations support by 6 percent for reductions are felt elsewhere but to modernize and to make efficiencies to move people toward filing taxes online, could help and we agreed that the irs is crucial to collect the necessary amount of revenue that people loaded to pay their taxes and one of the reasons we were very careful with the budget to maliki reductions where they made the most sense. >> it was nice to meet you. was that your daughter?. >> my wife. [laughter] >> i'm sorry. >> schaede would appreciate that comment. >> and then could the queer is anxious to get to work w

status of employment and then the benefits that come with it whether it's pay and reported back to the irs and social security side. >> do you do criminal background checks? >> once you become an employee and if your position requires that when you submit in than it would also be the primary use as similar to what we do, once it gets into the background investigation system that it's a different number that becomes the controlling number for it. >> since this massive hacking that occurred several years ago, i assume you have implemented a lot more protections to prevent that from happening again. >> yes, sir. >> ms. lacanfora, gosh, amazing statistics. did i hear you correctly that you verify 2 billion requests per year? >> 2 billion verifications, yes. >> wow, so that would be like six for every single living person in the country. >> s, and it's worth noting more than half our federal and state agencies verifying and that can happen multiple times to write a year they are processing for example an application for benefits. >> omb has required agencies to limit the unnecessary use of soci

we know that 6 million people chose to pay the fine according to the irs and we know another 13 million got waivers for having to pay the fine but not having to buy obamacare insurance. 19 million people who of their own volition decided i don't want obamacare. when the cbo came out with its report following the house passage of the bill which eliminated the individual mandate they said there would be fewer people on obamacare a year later if we eliminate the mandate. they actually had a number of over 10 million people. when you go to the cbo report as saying most of this is because the elimination of the individual mandate. it's something we are going to do. people that want to have to buy this product or this is a sinking ship. people are ready to to jump up or we eliminate the individual mandate. we'll see more people as free citizens making a decision to not have obamacare insurance but certainly have more pre--- freedom. we are committed to replacing the obamacare health care law is something that will give the american people the care they need from the doctor at lower costs. >>

the one meeting i had with bob mueller, he couldn't answer one question about the irs investigation. alled for a special counsel and the justice department said no. where was the special counsel when numerous members called for it in the clinton investigation. maybe if there was a special counsel there, they would have called it a special investigation. who were the people that bob mueller has hired? all democrats, all big contributors to presidential candidates on the democrat side. >> they're not all democrats. i get your opinion, but here are the facts. three of eight of the mueller hires made contributions to clinton, okay? three of the eight. you had rosenstein, the doj both say political contributions are not dispositive of bias. none of them ever worked for clinton directly. two who did represent clinton's foundation or an aide, never worked for her and worked at a place which also represented key members of trump's white house including manafort, kushner and ivanka trump. so i get what you're trying to suggest, but the facts aren't there. >> the facts are there. >> they were s

smokers don't write a check to the irs when they buy a pack of cigarettes. it's the tobacco manufacturers who pay the tax. we know the consequence of the cigarette tax is that cigarette prices are higher. and that's by design and for good reason. when we think about things like income taxes it's more difficult to try to trace through, we know who writes the check, the corporations write the check. but it's more difficult to trace through and find out who bears the burden. for aening lo ti long time the was that the burden was borne by the owners of the corporations that the tax fell on capital. in theory, it could fall in any one of a number of places or in combination. on workers in terms of lower wages, it could fall on the owners of the firms in terms of lower stock prices, or it could pass through into higher prices for consumers. and for a long time the assumption by organizations like the congressional budget office and others was that a large share of that, not entirely but a large share of that was borne by the owners of capital, the shareholders of t

where they got him from is the irs. richard weber is the chief of the criminal investigation of the irs. before that, he was the chief of the major economic crime bureau of the manhattan district attorney's office. before that he was the money laundering section of the criminal department of the united states of department of justice. why do they need him? >> maybe he's also good with like mortgages? >> frankly he sounds like the kind of lawyer that robert mueller has been hiring with the investigation. now he's going to this bank. it is the bank on the corner at the intersection of all the roads you have to go down if you are the investigators who's following all of this scandal. one of the man leading the investigation, joins us next. g. love mom and dad' i'm takin' a nap. dude, you just woke up! ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. take 5, guys. tired of your bladder always cutting into your day? y

because the irs knows all my sources of income, they know the rate that, you know, i'm supposed to owe, and, you know? so, and that actually would impact a huge majority of people in this country who pay wages and have their, you know, taxes withheld. >> yeah, well, that's a bookend question to the question by the gentleman in the back which is about using the tax code to accomplish things. one other idea, president obama actually talked about this in his campaign, and none of the tax-preparing forms liked it. which is that, in fact, most people pay on a short form, and you could actually send people a bill on their taxes where they wouldn't have to fill out anything. and on this tax simplification, the people who complain are the people who get the most damn benefits out of the tax system. and if those things weren't there, they'd pay in many cases higher taxes. so it's a very odd -- i think simplification is harder than it looks. anyway, all three of these questions are good. >> if you look at the reasons, the messaging -- talking about narrative -- the messaging that the republicans

why the justice department, even when you think about irs case. gation. a maxed out contributor to the president's campaign. said nope, doesn't matter. not a special counsel there but we'll have one here. james comey was involved in all of this. i want him underest again. i'd like to ask him a lot of questions and former attorney general lynch questions as well. i hope it happens soon. >> he's turning over all of his memos we're told to that senate investigation. what do you make of that? >> that's one thing that chairman goodlatte said he's requesting those documents that information. i want that as soon as possible and look at it. remember, we only think he did one memo. what about the other big decisions like shortly after the attorney general meets with clinton on the tarmac? that is valuable information as well. >> you have the video in that case. the two of them meeting on a plane. >> exactly. >> thanks, congressman. >> you bet. >> neil: you're probably used to the contention white house briefings, everybody gets their nose out of joint. and

not long after spire's death, windsor received an estate tax bill from the irs. as far as the federal law was concerned, she had inherited half the value of the apartment and the little cottage the two women had brought in the hamptons. to the federal government, she and thia spire, despite their 40 year history and despite their legal marriage were no more than strangers together. the bill was for $356, 353. windsor had to sell investment bonds she had counted on to see her through the rest of life. after paying, she figured she had enough to live on for no more than five years. if she had married to a theo instead of a thia she would not had had to pay no estate taxes. windsor called land of legal which is an lgbt legal defense fund. sorry, it is the wrong time in the movement to bring up a case like this. none of the rights groups was interested in her case. they were warning lgbtq lawyers they must not rush into federal court to challenge doma with a quote about a wealthy individual who had to pay a tax bill because the federal government wouldn't recognize hi

taxpayers and businesses spend anywhere between $6 billion to almost 9 billion hours complying with the irs's requirements. those are frankly billions of hours that they're not building things, growing businesses, buying goods and services from other american businesses, spending time with their families, pursuing a personal hobby, and we must reduce that unnecessary burden in terms of both the burden and the time. perhaps most importantly, we also agree that we need to get this done sooner rather than later. that's why working hand in hand with house and senate leadership and hosting regular wlnlistenin sessions with outside stakeholders, with trade associations from the tech industry to iron out details and get their input on that wha needs to happen. we're also committed to seeing the repeal and the prere place of obamacare through congress. obviously the senate is where the action is right now. this week is the deadline for insurers to commit to selling plans on the obamacare exchange. during the upcoming enrollment period and unfortunately we're continuing to see signs of its complete fa

there are some transactions in africa going on with gold mines and diamond mines and the irs was getting involved in the money distribution with nonprofit organization and political ambitions and super pacs and all of this business was going on. it was throwing the showing me and the producers off balance a bit. it got to be very uncomfortable. in this pat is running for president, he finds out from a reporter that my brother is really my son. pat confronts me about it. he is afraid that the news is going to hurt his political campaign and that his cohost has this past. so he compels me to tell my son that he is actually my son and that was pretty uncomfortable. i'm not sure he was ready for that information. just to save a man's political career and to destroy the family unit and invade that privacy was very uncomfortable. my son took it pretty well, but it was another reason like mi in the right place? should i be doing this? is all of this as all touristic as i had hoped? so i decided i was going to leave. i was in florida making that decision that i would probably leave the 700 club

you realize, for example, with obamacare, we added 68,000 people to the irs to collect the tax moneyhat's coming that came from the new taxes that were levied to pay for obamacare? these people all have to eat. there's a solution to that as well because people want to work 20 years and retire. you don't replace those jobs. i got to believe when you got hundreds of thousands, probably millions of people working for the government, there's an opportunity to let the clock take care of the problem. maria: right, there's an immigration issue that people say is taking people's jobs but there's also technology. ken: that's not so. maria: robotics is the issue. ken: the problem is our children are not getting the educations they need to be competitive in a high-tech world. i don't want to blame anybody, but we are doing a horrible job in public education in america today. we spend more money per student in public education than 30 of the most developed countries on earth and in results rank 28th. maria: wow. should the onus be on government or business in terms of training our people. they h

into it, and i like to finish with this, you talk about obstruction of justice, in the middle of the irsgeting scale, where the department the department of justice allegedly had a criminal investigation going on to determine what we violated and whether there was a violation, i would call it a full investigation also, but let me make this point. while that investigation was pending, he said there is not a smidgen of corruption, the investigation wasn't even complete. and no one was screaming from the left that i was obstruction of justice. >> hannity: there is just way too much ground to cover here. your job, gregg, jay, sara, i will put you on links to my web site. tonight, monday night on hannity. more news breaks. >> what came apart this morning, the president set according to the written testimony, of mr. comey, go ahead and give that to my operation, and nail them. they love to push the trump collusion narrative, even chris matthews, he is talking about his colleagues. up next, a brand-new segment that we called the liberal conspiracy theorists, will get reaction from former govern

you had the irs scandal, , a false narrative of the hands of don't shoot issue -- hands up don't shootssue, susan rice, samantha power, it goes on and on. danger that we may not have a democratic institution, if we go down this path and there will be no winners. is donald trump perfect? of course not. i do not see any human being is perfect and we can pick and pick. that is just you a you this. -- that is just the way it is. i am convinced the irs suppressed and delayed the tax returns on some of these groups that were conservatives during the mitt romney 2012 election. --t: let me ask you this talking about impeachment, would it be concerning to you that, if the head of the fbi, supposed to be independent, even if it is not a crime, if the president is hinting at what he would like for them to do. does that bother you? caller: not in the sense that there are always politicians -- we live in an internet age where information is instantaneous. this has happened under a lot of institutions. we have to follow the rule of law, if we do not we are just out the door. we have had some people