have had a pretty good relationship with can i annie kiani but we have to remember kiani was head of the isi when a lot of this stuff was going on, when the afghan taliban were going over into afghanistan and where they continued to do, and kiani made it perfectly clear the afghan taliban is an asset of pakistan, and they think it is a very important asset, because when the end game is over in afghanistan, the afghan taliban should have full pakistan, the kind of communicates in southern afghanistan, and i think we are rather naive to think that the pakastanis are ever going to give up -- >> rose: and they can't do anything about the kiani network. >> absolutely, and i don't think they ever will, why should they from the pakastani point of view they need the afghan taliban because they see india coming into afghanistan and they feel they need a counter against india in afghanistan, so it is pakistan and southern afghanistan, roughly speaking and india, perhaps, having influence in the north. and the afghan taliban, the pakistan's proxies. >> rose: general petraeus, is he going to change anyt

just last year, a report suggests that the former head of isi is now encouraging insurgents to focus their operations in afghanistan, quote, in exchange for the government of pakistan's security forces turning a blind eye to insurgents in pakistan. national security adviser jim jones said in a statement that the leaks could put the lives of americans at risk and threaten national security. so why was the material leaked? last may, a california computer hacker was contacted online by someone calling himself grad f-87. he said he was an army intelligence analyst in baghdad who had access to incredible things, awful things that belong in the public domain. he said that the material had been given to wiki leaks founder. the computer hacker turned over the online conversation to pentagon investigators. on may 26th, army specialist brad manning, born in 1987, was arrested outside of baghdad and is now in a military prison. a source told the british news source "the guardian" why he made it public. >> in this case, it will show the true nature of the war and the public from afghanistan to an

goul spoke to the newshour in a 2002 report after he had retired from the isi. >>> according-- according to cnn... hate mark now because of what america has done and what america is doing. fbi milling around. midnight knocks on doors. and under the pretext of hunting for al qaeda. >> brown: today goul called the new allegations absolute nonsense. other files in the wikileaks probe suggested insurgents had fired heat seeking missiles at applied aircraft, something never publicly acknowledged. and the guardian and der spiel gel said there were unreported attacks of coalition troops killing hundreds of afghan civilians. the documents were mostly low level field reports. >> they don't include top secret reports. they don't include most reports from u.s. special forces. they don't include reports by the cia. >> brown: he also likened the leak to the opening of secret police arkives in east germany. a number of reports have linked the leak of the information to bradley manning, a 22-year-old u.s. army enlisted intelligence analyst. he was arrested in late may after leaking helicopter cockpit v

has long complained to pakistan that its intelligence service, the isi, was working with the taliban, but today's release provides shocking and specific new details. even as pakistan accepted billions in u.s. aid, the documents suggest isi officials conspired with taliban leaders to plan attacks against american forces in afghanistan. former isi chief hamid gul was reportedly deeply involved in the taliban operation. in an nbc interview today, he fired back. >> i deny it vehemently, outrightly. it is fictitious and fabricated. >> reporter: at the white house today, press secretary robert gibbs called the allegations old news, and insisted pakistan has stepped up its efforts to eliminate safe havens and drive out the taliban. >> i'm not going to stand here on july the 26th and tell you that all is well. i will tell you that we have made progress in moving this relationship forward. >> reporter: the documents do show serious concerns among u.s. military commanders. they repeatedly complain about lack of resources, unreliable afghan soldiers and a corrupt afghan government. some cases su

the cia adds this chilling detail -- every month, quote, the former chief of isi, general hamid gul, is visiting one of the madrassas. there is also horrifying detail about civilian deaths in 2007. five ground-launched american rockets destroy a compound where it is believed a senior al qaeda commander is staying. the army delta force arrives to find seven children killed by the rockets and no al qaeda commander. there is a strong warning to anyone reading the secret report not to share the information with anyone outside the united states. saying the rocket strike must be kept protected. and one of the more ominous reports says the taliban may have shot down a u.s. helicopter in 2007 with a shoulder-fired missile. diane. >> well, tell me more about that, martha, because that was 2007, as you say. any indication of shoulder-fired missiles since then? >> well, there have been no indications since then. in fact, this is not verified. one official told me that he couldn't verify that. another said it wasn't credible. but it seems to be a credible report. it was from the helicopter crew.

every month, the former chief of isi, general hamid gul, is visiting one of the madrassas.estroy a compound where it is believed a senior al qaeda commander is staying. the army delta force arrives to find seven children killed by the rockets and no al qaeda commander. there is a strong warning to anyone reading the secret report not to share the information with anyone outside the united states, saying the rocket strike must be kept protected. and one of the more ominous reports says the taliban may have shot down a u.s. helicopter in 2007, with a shoulder-fired missile. martha raddatz, abc news, washington. >>> speculation about who stole the documents is now focusing on a 22-year-old army private. bradley manning was an intelligence analyst based in iraq. he chatted online with a former hacker, saying he had downloaded thousands of secret documents by copying them onto music cds. the hacker became alarmed and went to authorities. manning was arrested and charged earlier this month with leaking classified data. >>> the u.s. navy man killed by the taliban has now been iden

just the, ah, corrupt government ministers who are benefiting from the drug trade, but you've got the isi in pakistan, the inter-services intelligence agency, they get a large part of their, of their budget from the illicit narcotics traffic from afghanistan. but a lot of people have got their hand in the till there. >> vanda, do you want to comment on the question of infiltration by organized crime in government? >> another good example is mexico where, um, the mexican state for decades has a corporate arrangement with organized cartels. essentially, the key law enforcement mexican institutions, ah, managed the drug cartels. they protected them to some extent, but they also told them what they could do and they couldn't. as a result of democratization in mexico from the 1980's onward, as well as a result of pressure from the u.s., the mexican state, and this kind of corporate arrangement has started targeting the cartels. but now the cartels are extraordinarily powerful because they had decades to grow, penetrate, ah, law enforcement institutions and when the state challenges them, the s

. >> reporter: 180 of the dispatches suggest pakistan's military intelligence agency, the isi, is helping the afghan insurgency attack american troops. and is generally responsible for suicide operations in kabul. for u.s. officials, it adds up to an enormous embarrassment. >> i'm looking forward to my meeting with the defense minister. >> reporter: the documents are believed to have been fed to a former computer hacker by this man, army intelligence analyst, brad manning, now behind bars in kuwait and accused of document theft. >> he thought there was a lot that needed to come out. >> reporter: the hacker thought the soldier was endangering u.s. lives, alerted the fbi. >> had i not acted, i would have wondered for the rest of my life, did i get somebody killed? >> reporter: the documents detail a 2007 commando raid gone wrong. after five rockets struck an alleged al qaeda compound members of the delta force arrived to find seven dead children and no al qaeda leader. vinita and rob? >> you said there are 92,000 documents. how would he manage to copy all of that data without ever being det

there is as steve said what he calls the alumni association and isi officials group as well as the other militant groups that have made arrangements with al-qaida and the taliban. they serve their turn and they provide assistance to them. >> woodruff: does it give them the ability to deny the support? >> there's no evidence of official support and the government would not wish to be involved in a activities but th question is can they prevent the activities from taking place which means effectively sealing the board between the tribal area and pakistan which is a very difficult task at best. >> woodruff: we did hear the ambassador say they view them as illlegal and gone after people engaged. >> it's up to the capacity to stop them and police can't do about them and in northwest frontier it's wilder and they lost the capacity to enforce their own law. he compared it to the united states, maybe 50 years ago but not america now. >> woodruff: is it getting better as he said? >> i think it's a work in progress. i think at the top the work is there the president of pakistan and all want change

the true nature of this war. >> taliban has attacked aircraft with heat seeking missis. also isi helped insurgents in afghanistan while accepting billions of sut ai >> it's the currently complicity isi with militant groups including the taliban >> the government of the pakistan and u.s. are coming the release of the reports. the white house says it can put the lives of americans at risk and threaten our national security. >> whenever you have the potential for names and for operations and for programs to be out theren the public domain, bedes being against the law has t potential of being very harmful. >> they believe they got it from this man, had he is now in jail in kuwait. a computer hacker in northern california admits he turned manning in out of fear that the reports could lead to american deaths. >> this could not result to both security and actual real life people. >> wiki leaks is the website we're talkin about. pakistani diplomats say they are outdated and don't reflect reality on the ground. >> afghanistan's president is condemning a rocket attack that killed 52 civili

wikileaks has details about missions gone horribly wrong, civilian deaths, and being double-crossed by the isiwho was fed the information from a source believed to be this man, army specialist brad manning, now behind bars in kuwait, accused of document theft. >> i really am appalled by the leak, condemn the leak, and i believe that there is potential there to put american lives at risk. >> reporter: it was with these new revelations that the house passed a $33 billion bill to pay for the wars in afghanistan and iraq and debated a measure to remove u.s. troops from pakistan. >> we have to take a different approach here. >> we cannot see these other entities within the isi empowered without having civilian oversight. >> reporter: an organization that represents conscientious objectors and military deserters has set up a legal defense fund to assist private manning. rob and vinita? >>> a suspected serial killer was indicted for the murders of a mother and daughter last year. police say former u.p.s. worker jason thomas scott is linked to at least one other mother-daughter killing. the killings t

the true nature of this war. >> taliban has attacked aircraft with heat seeking missiles. also isi helped insurgents in afghanistan while accepting billions of sut aid. >> it's the currently complicity. isi with militant groups including the taliban. >> the government of the pakistan and u.s. are coming the release of the reports. the white house says it can put the lives of americans at risk and threaten our national security. >> whenever you have the potential for names and for operations and for programs to be out there in the public domain, besides being against the law has the potential of being very harmful. >> they believe they got it from this man, had he is now in jail in kuwait. a computer hacker in northern california admits he turned manning in out of fear that the reports could lead to american deaths. >> this could not result to both security and actual real life people. >> wiki leaks is the website we're talking about. pakistani diplomats say they are outdated and don't reflect reality on the ground. >> afghanistan's president is condemning a rocket attack that kille

we also understood that there was an ambiguous relationship between the isi, the pakistani intelligence service and some of our opponents in afghanistan. it did not reveal anything that was not known and responded to by the president in his policy announced at west point last fall. >> senator bond, do you agree with that? >> yes, i do. frankly, we had been following what went on in afghanistan and pakistan. and in the fall of 2008, my minority staff and the intelligence committee drafted a 12-page document saying we needed a new plan, and we submitted it to the president elect, the secretary of defense and we're very pleased that general petraeus, secretary gates and president obama adopted a very similar plan because we knew we had to change what was going on. when we drove the taliban out of afghanistan, we relied on nato. unfortunately, the nato partners were not sufficiently organized and directed to maintain security there and the situation had deteriorated. that's why we needed a new strategy. the new troops that president obama committed, and two good generals, general petraeus h

that the isi would continue to work for pakistan with or without the help of the west. similarly, other officials had the same reaction. the major pakistani is papers did not report on the content of the documents. the main emphasis inside pakistan yesterday was that the white house had decried the release of these. not much information inside pakistan after the release. host: these documents run from 2004 until 2010. there not documents related to the last year when the insurgency began. your experience in the pakistan -- how are things different compared to what you might read in these? guest: there are some documents from the middle of last year. i found a number of very short descriptions of afghan/taliban been assisted to go over the border from afghanistan into pakistan in the summer last year, the height of the fighting season. the insurgency began a long time ago -- this current war began in to those among the get these go from 2004 until 2009. they give us a fresh on the bones, if you like, description of the generalities we have none. our reporters in afghanis

. >> reporter: leaks detail how pakistani intelligence, the isi, allegedly helped the taliban and howhe anti-american jihad was allegedly still being advised recently by former isi commander general hamid ghul. pakistan playing both sides, u.s. forces doubting they can win separately but claimed today that a nato rocket killed 52 afghan civilians. all threatening support for president obama's plan to escalate the war. >> without question there's minimal support on the american people for a long campaign. >> now, pentagon officials are looking for whomever leaked or hacked into the secret reports. >> all of that information outed a public way has the potential, ed, to do harm. >> reporter: secrecy, tough to protect in modern warfare. i'm steve handlesman, nbc news, washington. >> republicans are reserving more than $1.5 million for television ads to help carly fiorina in the final weeks of the california senate race. political analysts see that commitment as a signal the party feels optimistic about unseating the three-term democratic incumbent barbara boxer. the national republican se

and that the pakistan's isi has been helping the taliban kill u.s. troops and others, larry. >> larry: is all this new to you, nick? >> you know, a lot of this we've heard before. one analyst put it this way to me. he said, this is old bad news at a new bad time. what he means is we've heard a lot of this before, but it comes at a very, very difficult moment. some of these allegations, the allegations of pakistani intelligence services, aiding the taliban, we've heard details about that before. we've heard details, speculation that the civilian death toll is much higher than has been initially reported. but it's the timing that it comes at, when there are so many questions about the war in afghanistan, and it is in the granular detail in all these documents that people are only now just beginning to go through that you learn and see the real detail ans contrast on what we're toll publicly and what apparently is going on behind the scenes. the granular details that says citizens were killed in operations. there's no follow-up for. it's in those detail

the pakistanis know about isi involvement in involvement. the american soldiers on the ground know about civilians killing and the pakistanis' involvement across the border. so the question is, swhie this secret? who's being kept in the dark. i think the answer to that is they're trying to keep the american public in the dark about a lot of this stuff. >> larry: daniel, do you understand why mr. gibbs, representing the president is so upset? >> well, he's very upset in part because he's working for a president who has indicted more people now for leaks than all previous presidents put together. and two of those people have been indicted for acts that were taken under bush, which george w. bush administration chose not to indict. so this is an administration that's more concerned about preventing transparency, i would say, than its predecessor, which i'm very sorry to hear. as somebody who voted for obama and expect to vote for him again, despite all this. but, you know, in terms of the -- if i may say, in terms of the relation to vietnam, the

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-- specifically the isi? do they have right counternarcotics role to play? or they may have a seat onnthe >> anyone want to take a shot that? >> unfortunately we're going to duck because it is not the direct focus. but there are people in pakistan making money from this drug trade. some of the action goes through pakistan and the pakistan its profit from that. the second thing is, we talk about the fact that we might be able to move the trade more easily than you can eliminated. moving in and out of afghanistan may been that if you focus only in afghanistan. depending on where it moves, it3 moving to pakistan could not be ruled out. >> i run the drug policy project. this is washington and no one likes to hear bad news. it means a lot did you come here and address this. thank you very much for coming. my question has to do with the purity of afghan heroin in the region. many attics in afghanistan and surrounding countries are3 fairly pure. if we could dramatically reduce the supply of heroin, either through ae

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do you think is of concern -- the situation with pakistan and the isi continue to work with the taliban? >> again, what we always have to figure out with pakistan, senator, is are they working with the taliban to subvert them or to recruit sources in the taliban? and that is the difficult, frankly, and assessing their activities in the federally administered tribal areas with haqqani network for the afghan taliban. there no questions about the longstanding links -- remember, we funded the isi to build these organizations whenever helping to expel the soviets from afghanistan. certainly residual links would not be a surprise. the question is the character of those lands and what the activities are. >> one of the biggest problems we're facing is corruption. as one article said, corruption suspected. you have anything to tell us about that -- one of the more disturbing news reports that i have seemed -- and there have been actions taking -- that i have seen. >> there have been actions taken by the corruption body, the prosecution of certain cases, and also on our side, the establishment of

evidence in these documents about civilian casualties, about cooperation between the taliban and the isi? >> chip, let's be clear. again, the statements that the president made in march of 2009 very much understand the complicating aspects of our relationship with both of these two countries, the existence of, as i said, historical relationships between the taliban and pakistani intelligence. and, look, during the recent debate about general mcchrystal, remember a decent part of the rolling stone article discusses frustration within our own military about rules of engagement around civilian casualties. so we're not trying to either conventionally -- through conventional wisdom trying to deflect anything. what i'm merely saying is that what has been, i think what is known, about our relationship and our efforts in both afghanistan and pakistan are not markedly changed by what is in these documents. in fact, i think if, again, you go back to march of 2009, what the president says, we are clearly taking steps to make progress in dealing with pakistan's safe havens; certainly dealing with ci

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of classification, but what was talked about in those leaks was the intelligence community within the isi, that is sort of the cia of pakistan, that has been a problem in the past, it is a problem we're dealing with, and is changing. >> this administration is being criticized for not doing enough to grow jobs. >> yeah. >> there is, in some pockets of this country, a 20% unemployment rate. >> sure. >> has this administration done enough? >> let me put it this way, there's never enough until we restore the 8 million jobs lost in the bush recession. until that happens, it doesn't matter. i mean, it matters, but it's not enough. look, i can tell you when you live in a household where dad or mom doesn't have a job, it is bleak. and all the promises in the world don't matter a lot until you get a job. >> so the people who are waiting, who are hungry, who are unemployed, people like the people from how you grew up, what's your message? >> my message is, keep the faith. we are moving in the right direction. we are not going to let you go without food or basic services. that will not happen in thi

tory the is-- about specifically the isi? are they receiving narco-dollars and moving their own agenda? to my very much. >> anyone want to take a shot at the pakistan ankle. it is not a direct focus of the study. >> mostly, we will dock because it is not a direct focus. two comments. there are people in pakistan that are making money from this drug trade. some fraction of the hair when export goes to pakistan -- heroin export goes through pakistan. we talk about the fact that you might be able to move the trade more easily than you can eliminated. -- eliminate it. moving it out of afghanistan may benefit if you focus only on afghanistan. depending on where it moves, it may not be all to the good how it moves. moving it to pakistan could not to really be ruled out. >> first, i would like to point out the obvious. this is washington and no one likes to add here that had news. it means a lot to me that the would come.s office many addicts in afghanistan have got addicted to smoking afghan heroin, which is pure. if by some miracle

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