you can't look at the isi or the army in pakistan and the isi for those who don't know is the top spy agency in pakistan. they pretty much control everything there. it's as if there's a combination of the cia, fbi, and their entire focus is on what's happening inside their country, not necessarily what's happening outside the country, so we would be followed. they could come to our doors. there's funny scenes of them following us around as i was getting dry cleaning. if we met with an afghan or indian, then you were on their radar. in other words, the isi is pretty much everywhere in that country, but it's not a top-down organization. it's not like as if the guy on top knows everything that's going ton below because of what happened during the 80s. they had different cells of the isi working with these different jihad groups to work across the border in afghanistan and in fighting against the soviets, so you have this mentality there to sl self-contained cells, almost like a terrorist organization, within the isi, so getting back to you question -- do i believe that the leadership of

you can't look at the isi or the army in pakistan -- and the isi is the top spy agency in pakistan. they pretty much control everything there. it's as if there's a combination of the cia and the fbi and they're entire focus is on what's happening in the country, not what is happening outside the country. so as journalist we would be followed. there's a couple funny scenes of them following us around as i'm going to get dry cleaning. if we would meet with an afghan or indian, you were on their radar. so the isi is everywhere in the country. but it's not a top-down organization. it's not as if the top is going know everything going on below because of what happened during the '80s. they had different cells of the issy working with ihad digroups -- jihadi groups to fight against the soviets. you have this mentality you can have self-contained cells within the isi. so, do i believe that the leadership of the isi and the army knew that bin laden was there? no. i would find that very hard to believe. die believe that the civilian government knew that he was there? no. they have no clue wh

their security service, the isi has close ties to former and current jihadist. they help fund and start the taliban to fight the russians back in iraq. they have funded and started l.e.t., the people that did the mumbai attacks in india has a counter to indian and military power. all of the groups have connections to each other now. experts believe they would be and they are inclined to plan operations against the west both at home and aboard. so the question becomes then how vulnerable is the pakistani arsenal and how might someone get a nuclear bomb? there's several ways. you could have the rogue officer, clandestine materials, and aq khan, he could take over or my scenario, where a bomb in transit from the secured facility to the frontlines in the nuclear alert in india is stolen. that's where it's most vulnerable. you have a combination of weapons, a country which is hostile, the security service which has ties to jihadist, and a lot effigy -- a lot of jihadist established by the military security. you have something that's a worry. and in nuclear terrorism i

closer look at what exactly happens with a progress spacecraft and the implications of the crash for the isis crew. here you can see video of that rocket falling from the sky and right now there are crews which are flying over southern siberia looking for that rocket what we do know is that there was a sensor failure in the second stage of that rocket and the third stage failed to ignite which gave it the inability to make it to orbit the first two stages usually launch of the exact same time in fact they always launch at the same time and then they communicate with that third stage and it's that third stage which propels the progress craft up out of the earth's atmosphere so that it can then be in orbit and then synchronize with the international space station in terms of what does this mean for the international space station and the crew on board we should note that there is no routine to space flight there's always an inherent danger but there is no immediate threat to the crew on board right now because they have enough supplies right now we are told that they have about three months of

will be able to enjoy an individual cabin a shower cubicle instead of a standard bath those of all the isis had to do with and toilets with flowing air instead of water do you can weigh the same as visitors will only be able to sleep in the bags attached to the walls where there is a choice to sleep there is some type of the as for the food it is promised to be delicious the wood was here only it will be a super de luxe trip everything has to be top level. just getting there will be an adventure in itself to movies on board of russian so you spacecraft and a chance to rub shoulders with real astronauts to the hotel will be used as an emergency retreat in case of a crisis on the international space station but i think everybody would grab the chance if they if they get it to go to space it will be in the future but in making the first steps now thirty three year old leave guinea want to qantas to become the country's first space tourist he may be lined up for nothing more than a suborbital flight but he says it's just the start there must be some of the old boy's dream of this if you would o

absolutely peter well while the search mission is going on let's tell concentrate on the crew members of the isis as you just mentioned the spacecraft was taking a lot of things there and food supply is actually as an important component because the oil and the crew members have to maintain their you know routine there on the i assess so what does that actually mean for the crew members are they not going to be left without food. well what we are hearing is this going to currently six astronauts on board the i.s.a.'s from russia the united states japan now they were giving a huge they were given a huge resupply from the last shuttle mission that can last them for several months quite comfortably these are all very highly trained astronauts they train for the situations where things go wrong and they will be implementing the training right now should they be forced to rush in their food the go through what they've been told to do and how they were told to do it now we're hearing from the the program manager of the space station from nasa should the next space flight that was the next supply flight

well the question that i'd like to ask is the spacecraft was carrying supplies to crew members of the isis so how will that affect sound like implications will this have for now well that's right the i assessed stuff by six astronauts from russia the united states. good news for them is they did get a months of supply boost from the shuttle when it was their last time they have food for three months to keep them going you've also got to remember they're all if not the majority of these people are all very highly military trained people they trained for situations where they'll have to live on rations so that's not really anything they'll be worrying too much one minor said but i could be if there were any scientific parts that they were waiting any plans for experiments they were hoping to to continue and keep on carrying out on all the if they were on board this progress freighter and they've been lost that could set but some of the research food and water isn't really a major concern for them right now we are hearing that they could get a you know the progress. up there with the same amo

the second problem, david, and it's serious, this continued sanctuary in pakistan, the isi o cooperation and we have to have a realization that the present situation in pakistan cannot continue, otherwise it places enormous burdens on our ability to succeed. i believe we have made significant successes. our prayers go to the families of the brave, brave elite that have sacrificed. we have to address the sanction ware situation and the problem the president created. that is that out there, there's the perception of afghanistan and other parts of the world that america is withdrawaling. that can't be good. >> the reallty, we have been at it over a decade now. the problem has been with us. why are we still there? we don't have afghan soldiers to take care of the problem. by the way, we went to afghanistan to defeat the taliban, rather al qaeda, which is not active there, we are fighting against an insurgency likely to prevail. >> first of all, on the ten year thing, the fact is we have only had a surge for a couple years now since the president announced it at west point. we have had a very

the second problem, david, and it's serious, this continued sanctuary that is now in pakistan w the isi cooperation with other organizations including the taliban. and we have to have a realization that the present sanctuary situation in pakistan cannot continue, otherwise it places enormous burdens on our ability to succeed. i believe we have made significant successes. our prayers and thoughts go out to the families of those brave, brave, brave elite of our elite that have sacrificed. but at the same time, we're going to have to address the sanctuary situation and we're going to have to address the problem that the president has created, and that is that out there there's a perception of afghanistan and other parts of that part of the world that america is withdrawing. that can't be good. >> the reality, we have been at it over a decade now. the sanctuary problem has been with us the entire time. you know there are people watching us saying why are we still there? we don't seem to have afghan solders that are a partner enough to take care of the problem and by the way we want to afgha

storm well it's commentary like that that makes us want to play some of the highlights of the media storm isis this has the makings of a hurricane of our lifetime expected to gain that much more power oh crazy powerful than. my wife made me go through the emergency kit with her and yes i'll admit i was being a little bit of a bad boy i didn't pay attention it's been getting worse every single minute it's not some sort of organic matter i guess trying to enter something. with sand and salt and i know you first heard it it doesn't smell great some are questioning whether this was overreaction if there's a bear out so you can go or i see it but i don't see anything to go on you're responsible doesn't mean the bear is going to get in there to get you but you should need to know that it's a loser. i navy our rocker but come on a competition for reporter a live shot including one with a guy standing in the hall net turned out to be wait for it ross. ok he may have won but all of this took the mainstream media away from other major news like for example the humanitarian crisis there our correspondent

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the u.s. they say this is from isis america's got the debt downgraded europe's debt refuses to heal pretty street is in asia is the largest economy in india with the latest outlook for the region. the asian markets are tumbling today which is what many analysts predicted on friday when this credit downgrade rating was released but obviously this is what many financial analysts had predicted on friday we were already starting to see the markets tumbled on friday in reaction to the u.s. debt ceiling debate and these new credit ratings downgrade so. asian markets are reacting very strongly they have a vested interest in what's going on in the united states they are holding three trillion dollars in the united states debt so everyone's watching very closely here to see what's happening in china is the number one holder in u.s. dad chip pan is number two they both have reacted very strongly to this crisis china calling all of this immoral and responsible and saying that the united states to deal with this immediately and obviously there has been a lot of talk about moving away from the u.s. dollar as

anybody who has followed those events could see it was the cooperation between the cia and the isi that finally led to his release. he was no diplomat. he killed two persons. he was a cia contractor. but what happens that as soon as he is released and leads pakistan, the next day, there is a drone attack that killed 46 people in the tribal areas. this was not reported over here. in pakistan papers, every paper carried an editorial. so there's a kind of insensitivity here. there is a question of the big london -- the osama bin laden episode -- how come he was living in a garrison town -- it is not a garrison town, but there happens to be an academy there. if you went there, or if you into a slot blot -- if you went into islamabad, these are sprawling populations and many of them are undocumented. in islamabad, there are sectors which are afghan sectors. there are afghan sectors. so we don't have any restrictions and it has happened that this man through his companions got a place which was a complex, but it is a very modest place if you look at the pictures. but nonetheless, they got him

ascended to the throne in seven hundred sixty two over the centuries the past larger than history itself and various new buildings. isis approaches them to the natives and held by the trench of century the home is one of the largest museums in the world. a lot of these museums from what i have read but this goes far beyond my expectations using credit is the same thing. that you can only dream about and it's absolutely fabulous since like two for one they are in the building all together it's just. and this museum is in kind of. we had a great tour guide and she showed us just a small piece of it but the small piece we've seen is just incredible we have a private tour and i think it's better we can see a few more things get better understand. things they always ask a lot of. the palace boasts almost two thousand windows and over a thousand elegantly and largest decorated rules and rooms many of which are open to the public. it is estimated that to see the exhibits in the home it's raj would have to move twenty five miles perhaps even lose fascinating at least for those interested in riches glory days it's not just the

that is what is going on inside of pakistan and our inability to understand how the isi and army operates in tandem with these organizations or not. what would you fix and how would you fix this problem, if you could? if you were president of united states, how would you mitigate the damage done to us by people in pakistan? a really quick ground. >> we have to maintain our relationship with the state of pakistan. it's endemic corruption is something that we have to face up to and deal with. their core concern is india. they have fought several wars and lost them. today they are worried that india that is surrounding them by going into afghanistan. with their economic problems, corruption and focus on india, it is pretty bleak. that said, it is in the interest of the united states to sustain their relationship in the best way that we can. we have this collaborative arrangement. for the last 10 years, it has been very effective, the comments made about a grating al qaeda and its leadership in large part it was carried out as a result of a successful partnership. in the last day or so, the d

the fascinating thing to me isis that it really doesn't need to sound like a car. could sound like those little spaceships in "the jetsons" cartoons. [ playing the theme to "the jetsons" ] >> reporter: which is kind of what nissan wanted. >> i can easily imagine a day when you can change the sound in your car as easily as you change the ring tone on your phphe. >> reporter: the result, certainly makes the leaf distinctive, but is it more visibleleo blind people? we drove it past our panel of experts. how would you know that's a car with that high-pitched kind of squeaky sound? >> i didn't realize that was the car until like i said it was right in front of me. >> reporter: nissan may still have some work to do. david wright, abc news, los angeles. >>> and when we come back in the broadcast tonight, celebrating "i love lucy." which was your favorite episode and more importantly, which was hers? ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] try fixodent with a time-released formula. use just once per day for all-day hold. for poor-fitting dentures, see your dentist. for hold from dawn to

the united states because of what is going on inside pakistan and our ability how understand how the isiperates. what made you fix? how would you fix this problem, if you cut? if you're president, what to do to mitigate the damage that could be done? >> first of all, we have to maintain our relationship with the state of pakistan and its endemic corruption is something that we have to face up to man deal with. and their core concern is india. they have fought and lost several wars. they are worried that india as surrounding them by going in to afghanistan. now with their economic problems, the corruption, and their focus on india, it is pretty bleak. that being said, it is in the interest of the u.s. to sustain that relationship in the best way that we can and have this collaborative arrangement. for the last 10 years, it has been very effective. the comments that were made about degrading al qaeda and their leadership were large part carried out as a result of that partnership. in the last day or so, the defense minister of pakistan has ordered us out, the trainers, the capability, and

regulators to back off the new mandates from dodd frank but there are these big new rules particularly on derivatives that goldman sachs does not want to comply with and now isis helping him with the help of a former goldman v.p. peter holler to fight these make regulators now the name changes interesting because hollers tenet a statement to talking points memo today saying that he chose to change his name in two thousand and eight to honor his great grandfather who died in one thousand pretty poor and is dying wish was for his grandchildren to take his name now i can i'm not going to dispute any of peter's reasoning but it's not exactly clear why he chose to change his name after leaving goldman sachs and waiting some seventy years after his grandfather's death yeah one would think. is this how unusual is this that somebody works for you know goldman sachs dow chemical whatever fill in the blanks on large trans national corporation or a bank and then ends up on the staff of a congressional committee or a congressman who has oversight over that particular industry or business or in one of the regulatory agencies as we were you know i set this thing up with the

>> part of the things you're talking about doing isi create communities seven tristan organize around the subject. you cannot look at a mass audience.chi find the people in chicago better interested in education and create an interest online getting into good coverage. can you find 20,000 people are less than one-half of 1% who would pay $2 a week? then you use that money to hire education reporters then they create fed couldo solid education coverage online then from there you cherry pick to create aay f broader site. ou can you find people who are interested in politics? they are committed to it in can you use that money to go out to get that coverage that it is sorely needed we did one little experiment we take some of them information to createti something that everybodyr gets four free. we're getting money from those from politics we hire political reporters andsu support a website to send out to the general public.at' that is the idea. but in a legacy news organization the first thing youe have to do is get out of the printing business.not it is too expensive they will not pay $

was talking about which is the cronie isy cronyism, which is the texas miracle, the rapid job growthws on climate changes and a whole host of social issues that i think will resurface. it might play well in the republican primary but i don't think it does very well in the general election. and one more thing, it's unfair to tannish him with bush's legacy because he's not bush, but i don't know how ready the country is for another texas republican right now. >>> up next, the man that brought down bernie madoff, the biggest ponzi schemer in the country, now he's starring in a movie about the scandal. >>> and how will steve jobs' resignation from apple impact the market? we'll get a check of the market with cnbc's simon mobs. >>> but we want to get a check on hurricane irene with bill karins. hey, bill. >> you need to pay close attention and start making the hurricane preps. it's the bottom line it's heading our way. let me show you the path of the forecast from the hurricane center. this was the 5:00 a.m. update and another one comes out at 11:00 east coast time, and they are taking to

the category of consumer electronics. it is a unique experience grief for tailgating. and if-it is great for telling kidding it isy. they use a lot of power. i think the owners should packed an extension cord to reach an outlet. $ 300 = free shipping from the amazon. however that price is expected to drop rob@robblack.com gabe slate's tech report >>pam: coming up kerry joins with the sports director, gary radnich will be up. we have all the sports coming up, next >> the astros are the worst team in baseball but the giants cannot score. meanwhile, globa--vogel go to te internet and even tried to recognize one player from the houston astros. alex rodriguez shooting them all out. helping their boss with the giants losing 6-0. back to back shot out for the lan ones we see it all the time the giants are not so much that oh my gosh! they could to get into the playoffs because that division is very poor. the update at this hour oakland leading to run all. >> a scrimmage against each other tomorrow at candlestick park. we say scrimmaged with the tickets are still going to be $75-$ 100 it is a rip-off! nonetheless, a lot o

it is my understanding that the majority isis to take a second look ba? let me ask you directl. since they made these recommendations in the first place, now we're asking others to provide suggestions. why is this next step needed? my perspective is that it is not simply another assistant. i look forward to seeing what the staff thinks about the recommendations. the most important thing is to have the staff intact by stakeholders. they have crossed the table discussions. >> thank you. i would agree with this. i would make two points hair- ere. he supported having them come back and give as an integrated one. the agency did not do that. they call from that in 30 days. not all these recommendations are equal. something should be done right now. >> there are regulatory prospects. can you describe or prepare both processes? there were here for public comment. >> generally, pay have more limit terry -- limit terry -- limited involvement. we need to do it for safety reasons. they are not the preferred tool. they did not provide for the public in gateman that a regulation would. one of

panic in the city and that's why they were bombing the things that people use daily like places with food and essentially activities like hospital isis that this was a very difficult period for muslims not because of ramadan and that is why they do time varying their house went to tripoli and to the town and we saw huge protests with thousands of croker dump with apartheid is turning out to get out of town and these demonstrations were not shown in. italy also visited to endure and since we were there and found a lot of women that were screaming at us asking why you would turn in for bombing us what did we do why are you killing our children that was the main question when she did it on the same day they bombed the heils and this house taught children were killed while we tried to show the pictures of these children that were dead but apart from us no one else did the same except the times that was done with our own noise visiting these places that were bombed we have so much material that press offices and journalists from little you gave to us as destiny to our dad from the nato bombing this after all the things that i do still we

it's knowing that you got a message from the front that there will be no place for you in a post-war libya and with this isis e.-y. interest i wanted my own broad really simply way to go from here who you when many people are angry with me and they are right because you said the head of rebels they were. you know you were very among my friends but at the time i was very liberal tolerant. very peaceful peaceful to a certain extent and i followed the. libyans are equal so everybody has the right too. to be libya to work here to be active do do whatever they want but little found that the whole cognition found that there were. it was the conspiracy managed by those people against libya told it they said it's called a few. ghosts leeks. many pre-treat our country and work with foreigners to destry a country so we are very angry with you because you are very tolerant and don't forget i released all the prisoners. at the beginning of the when there were zero prisoners so i was going because if you use that too much terms do you think they're right to be honest we were we were super tolerant i was naive yes you no

the general election. romney will argue that per isy isy -- perry is too brash.he has written things that social security and medicare shouldn't be around. taken positions and said things that are not presidential and would make him inelectable to president obama. clish say that presidential campaigns become popularity contest when you have a republican field that is so unified in general opposition to all things on the obama agenda, there is not a lot of difference,s mostly nuances between them. and who could actually beat the incumbent. >> perry it seems to me. i think both of them could beat the i object couple bent at this point. and i'm not saying this from any ideological point of view but president obama is in so much trouble economically that both men could beat him. but what it comes down to is which guy is going to be slinging the mud first and hardest. and the second thing is when you have a guy like rick perry, who is an advantage in the republican primaries with the exception of new hampshire and possibly florida, because he he is genuinely more cons

of the spectrum we never get the result so on the first of july our captain said look i take a great risk too and yes i could get you in jail i think it isis read what we're going to be like slowly stop what out there it was exhilarating for thirty five thirty five minutes of freedom people before they had the great coastguard cuts off again and then they had the you know those commandos all blacks should put in a machine that satisfied hundred yards away and were yelling here's the new york times reporter c.b.s. has three over there what you should them first because if we shoot us we're going to get it on film. it was really really and that's one of the differences here i walk right ahead yeah true from new york times three years to from c.n.n. and so forth in other ways they're willing to sell with us and suffer the same indignities that befell us they had the israelis they were just taking a picture story with the interviews with this they were with us ok and we even got some good reporting of which it would appear in the u.s. press but all over europe and the rest of the world it exposed how how transparent we will really motives wher

the u.s. tour. there are reports on usmagazine.com saying caleb isi going into rehab to battle addiction to alcohol.her is also a member of the band tweeted saying there are internal sicknesses and problems that needed to be addressed. i know you guys aren't stupid, i can't lie, there are problems in our band bigger than not drinking enough gatorade. so that is the deal. we wish caleb well. the tour is done and let's hope he gets the help he needs, reportedly on the way y rehab. >> get well, get well. >> yes. >> moving on. the "vanity fair" issue that hits newsstands today in l.a. and new york features a gorgeous jennnner lopez on the cover. look at her. never looked better. apparently she spills everything about why her marriage with anthony -- with marc anthony didn't work out. she talks even about her relationship with p. diddy, breaking off her engagement to ben affleck. she talks about loving herself enough to move on, knowing when a person is not right for you. clearly there were a lot of problems in the relationship before this divorce that kind of took a lot of people by surprise. she does s

honored to be able to give his oath of office when he was elected as a representative to the united states congress. isirm for a suit. his commitment to protect the people of the united states is there. [unintelligible] i am having a hard time saying this. he is an avid long-distance runner, he rides motorcycles, and attends church in the camera, florida. without further ado, our congressman, congressman wes. [applause] >> thank you. thank you so much, mayor levy. get this out of the way. thanks, mayor levy, and thank you to the men and women who serve to protect each and everyone of you here in palm beach gardens, your police department, the security that they are providing very the most important thing is your -- you and your safety, especially what we saw and january with cadre of giffords. it was an incredible honor to see her back casting that final vote before we left on recess. that was an incredible merkel. everyone sees the cameras here. i do not know when they're going to do it, but you will be on c- span some time. some make sure that you sit up straight. tucket end. [laughter] the world is w

the country. those kinds of results, not just talk, is what america needs now. i also want to tell you doing that in minnesota isi very interestingnd important to know. we need to not just preach to the choir and make sure we have a candidate who can win in places like kansas or oklahoma or some of the other great states in this country, alabama and georgia. he can come up to iowa and wisconsin and pennsylvania and take the conservative message and urgeos to win and get this country back. i won and got re-elected in one of the most difficult states to be a republican, minnesota, and ll carry those states as a candidate for president. [applause] the way forward may not be, but america can overcome challenges, as you know. valley forge wasn't sy. settling the west wasn't easy. winning world war ii, for sure wasn't easy. going to the moon wasn't easy, but this is not about easy. it's about getting our country back on track. this is the united states of america. we are the american people. [applause] the founding fathers created it. ronald reagan personified it. abraham lincoln stood courageously to defend it. and no

three hundred and fifty year olds isis or isil has unusual talents and cause them true or our it's a meeting of people who can give money because they approve from the actions i did or they can't do with themselves from the banks to this financial support sil can do her thing called and independently of each other and. sussan. and. of if it looks from direct or indirect action you commit to face and the legal consequences so when i think over the rails for a few hours they bring me to try. well for trespassing or whatever i can't say no that wasn't me i don't want to be seen none of the current actions are for everybody to see and i do not hide. that i'm never done jail time is what i've been fined under french and german law they are minor infractions they don't go on my criminal record. is a lie as i follow these are the cases i have pending filed according to time the trial is part of the action at the courthouse a lot of other things are going on there are demonstrations and there is a hung and people climb on the roof of the courthouse while i'm often down by. agent in action like that gives us more press we talk to reporters about issues like

different way whereby the capitalists spent and deployed and the rest of that spending is shifted in return for a share revenues going forward. isi don't quarrel that there something to the partnership. the profit cannily come from one of two places. it will either come from payments from the government or the fact that the project is managed well so there's a profit margin or it is going to be revenue-generated from the people using the project, what ever is, what does it is built. it is important to keep that in mind because taxpayers will be paying one way or another. they will either be paying through the money we pay to these companies or they will be paying by tolls. sometimes we get caught up in this new idea which is great, but i don't want us to get away from the bottom line which is the folks are going to pay one way or another. this is not going to be a magic bullet that will take away from the need for the public to pay for public infrastructure. it's just going to shift how they pay for it in a nontraditional way. >> point made. >> thank you. we care a lot about infrastructure in our state. that was brought home to u

the american people. none of us want to see our nation default, but after having reviewed this deal, for a number of reasons, i am unable to support it. isis date myself with all of the remarks that have been made already. the lack of jobs and economic growth. at a time when investments are needed to jump-start the economy and put people back to work, i believe this deal and it cut only approach, and that is what it is, allows the false link between the debt ceiling and the deficit to gain any credibility, i believe was a mistake. it is an outrage that we stand here today with a reasonable and balanced approach with reduction that has been a long required. while i can appreciate that some provisions to limit the impact were included, this falls very short. the harsh reality is that cuts of this size will likely result in massive cuts to vital human needs and safety net programs and will cripple our ability to help our most vulnerable communities, including seniors, the poor, and low-income people struggling each and every day just to get by. it includes no revenues and no guarantee of revenues going forward. with 45 million people living i

steven powell isis susan's father, chuck cox, also denies steven powell's allegations. saying it was steven who made theward his daughter, which made her uncomfortable. he also denies she was unstable. do you think a part of you started falling in love with susan? >> yeah, i would say so. and there's no question in my mind that the feelings were mutual. >> reporter: for "good morning america," abbie boudreau, abc news, los angeles. >> let's b bng in dan abrams now for more on this. boy, this is such a head-scratcher. we're all sitting here watching in disbelief. what could he possibly get out of trashing susan powell? >> i don't know what he's talking about. i mean he's talking about the fact that maybe she wanted him, et cetera. what could that possibly have to do with someone running out on their two children? i mean, rememember. we're not talking about someone who may have theoretically, according to them, run off with another man. if any of that happened, it means she ran off with another man and abandoned her two children completely. >> that's the other thing. it doesn't matter what they say to us