he might call it the islamic state. the president's response to the beheadings of james foley and steve sotloff five months ago. he said the islamic state's ideology is, quote, bankrupt, then declared the islamic state represents no religion just two weeks later, the president called the claim that the islamic state kills in the name of religion, quote, absurd of vowing to fight these terrorists. he didn't call them terrorists. no more than five months later now, this president still refuses to call the islamic state what it clearly is radical islamist terrorists. according to the clarion project, radical islam is the merger a mosque, and state under sharia. the goal being the implementation of sharia law globally through terrorist acts human rights abuses bigotry towards non-muslims and hostility towards the west. a quarter of the state department's -- why doesn't our president at least publicly put forward any sense that he understands there is no war between so-called peaceful islam and radical islamists? where is the

a sense the islamic state is an islamic state. >> all faithful must go to the caliph. what is the draw and how are they getting them there? >> the people who support the islamic state believe that islam is not just a faith. it's also a political system. and they believe that you can't even really be a muslim in the fullest sense unless you're living under that system and are giving allegiance to a caliph. they think there are huge sections of what islam consists of. in the absence of a caliph for at least the last 90 years just didn't exist. now they have the opportunity to do that. that's how they're enticing people. that's how they're exciting people getting them to leave comfortable exists in places like birmingham, england, and emigrate. they have utopian future under islam in a full sense of its practice. >> you write, and i'm quoting here, pretending that it isn't actually a religious milinarian group with theology that must be understood to be combatted has already led the united states to underestimate and back foolish schemes to counter it. we'll need to get ac

asked congress to give him authority to use military force against the islamic state. complicating the matter, however, mr. obama has been claiming all along that the united states is and has been successfully carrying out his strategy comprised main leaf airstrikes against the islamic state operating in syria and iraq. a further complication, mr. obama has made it clear he believes the national media has exaggerated the threat of the terrorists and a new complication, some congressmen and senators in both parties are divided over the language of the president's request for authorization, which they see as unclear and too broad, and has been the case of late the president is talking about what he won't be doing instead of what he will. >> the resolution we've submitted today does not call for the deployment of u.s. ground combat forces to iraq or syria. as i've said before i'm convinced that the united states should not get dragged back into another prolonged ground war in the middle east. that's not in our national security interest and not necessary for us to defeat i

is the islamic state going to last? ld respond to the latest identification, supposedly, of the man that has been called jihadi john, standing in the video that he was about to execute the journalist american james foley and the reddish security said they were following him. the significance of this, three arrest in brooklyn these young people were supposedly going to join up with islamic state in syria, the three girls in britain, the young women who supposedly have gone to join. can you put all of this together? yeah, i mean, they're said to be about 20,000 foreign to hot -- jihadis. one of the amazing things, they're quite easily able to cross the turkish frontier into syria into the islamic state. but despite the fact turkey is meant to be part of the coalition to eliminate the islamic state. but there's a 500 mile border between syria and turkey and is still seems to be generally open. now when these foreigners arrived in the islamic state they're often not much good as fighters because those from western europe and

i don't know what >>> we're back with our guests discussing the islamic state. graham wood he referred to islam as the marketing tool that gets you recruits into the islamic state and adds strongly to their will to fight. if that marketing tool wasn't present, what would we have? >> we would have a political organization without that idealogical background. as michael said -- >> with how many troops or idealogical soldiers among them? >> they wouldn't be that idealogical. they would be a group that arises out of a place of terrible governance with very little opportunity and hope for their lives in a very simple material kind of way. what they wouldn't have though is the ability to recruit overseas in particular with the promise of the fulfillment of a caliphate. and that is a concept within islam that has a long history and it has certain requirements such as the retention of territory where sharia law can be implemented. if they can't claim to be able to offer that they've lost one of the major recruitment tools they have. >> richard wolf, it seems our politics

why are they signing up with the islamic state? these groups are persisted for hundreds of years, making deals with any and all comers, including the baath party, for pragmatism. they see isis as a better guarantor of their safety than the government of baghdad, for the simple fact that both of those governments are led by their enemies. the shia, essentially trained and funded by iran, so this is a political component and it's huge. >> thank you very much for joining me tonight. >>> coming up, new revelations about the nsa. they might have a way of spying on virtually every hard drive in the world. next. ♪♪ expected wait time: 55 minutes. your call is important to us. thank you for your patience. waiter! vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. vo: we put members first... join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ the lightest or nothing. the smartest or nothing. the quietest or nothing. the sleekest... ...sexiest ...baddest ...

obama wants a jobs program for the islamic state. fox news military analyst general jack keane will join us to discuss the islamic state threat. whatever happened to al qaeda? has vladimir putin won again? what he wants next? and how our military can succeed under what appears to be confused leadership. all of that coming up here tonight. >>> and st. louis police facing a lawsuit after an officer disabled a dash cam while an armed man was being arrested. video of the incident captured the man refusing to exit his car as ordered. officers kicking the man as he fought back, and then the camera goes black does. he have a case? we'll be talking about that and much more with leading attorneys lis wiehl and mercedes colwin tonight. we begin with a court order that blocks the obama amnesty fiat the court's injunction blocks a number of actions that were to begin tomorrow. the department of homeland security forced to suspend rollout, but the white house and attorney general eric holder vowing to appeal the lower court decision. >> i think th

but driving the islamic state from here came a tremendous cost. hundreds of airstrikes flattened most of the town. the islamic state did not go further than five miles from here. while kobani has been limited the fight against the militants goes on. we headed east, closer to the front lines. here, kurdish fighters are young, and they are determined. these are sites surrendered by the islamic state. >> this is a big victory, but the bigger win will be to free those around kobani. we will never allow a single isis fighter to survive in kobani. >> in the war against the islamic state, the battles of kobani will be remembered. these streets tell that with foreign help, i.s. can be defeated, but only at great sacrifice. bbc news, kobani in syria. >> unbelievable images. for more, i spoke a short while ago with a retired general, one of the top u.s. commanders in afghanistan. we surprised to see those pictures of kobani? >> they are stunning. there is no question that is some of the greatest distraction of any city i have seen in many years. it reminds m

the threat of the islamic state taking a new turn today. a group of islamic state supervisors successfully cyberattacked "newsweek" magazines twitter account and the website of the international business times. the attackers call themselves the cybercaliphate. they also posted threatening tweets threats against president obama and his family. this newest cyberattack also comes on the same day that the obama administration will have a new agency to monitor cyberthreats. the white house counterterrorism adviser, lisa monaco making the announcement. >> we have seen in the last nine months a growing list of high-profile targets. home depot jpmorgan chase target, sony pictures, and the u.s. postal service to name just a few. and we are at a transformation will moment in the evolution of cyberthreat. the actions that we take today and those we fail to take will determine whether cyberspace remains a great national asset or increasingly becomes a strategic liability. lou: a striking change of tone by the obama white house. it was only two months ag

does the islamic state have in jordan? >> i mean obviously, it is very difficult to ascertain but throughout the last four years of the syrian conflict and especially the last couple of years of islamic state operating in syria, it's extracted many jordanians to join the ranks and also found acceptance among a number of jordanians in places where a number of you know radical cells have demonstrated their not only pledge of allegiance to the islamic state's leader baghdadi and demonstrated the resentment of the jordanian government. the fear would be if these operatives or if these radical individuals would act now and would start operating inside of jordan. >> thanks for joining us. we'll be right back. we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our angie's list app. visit angieslist.com today. ♪ fl

>> in the region, the term that's used is dash, the arabic acronym for islamic state. the people in the summit were asking for a more nuanced discussion. in the region, you'll hear a lot of discussion about the interpretation of islam so it's interesting the kind of dialogue happening in the region. it's not about the name or whether or not it's extremist because it's a muslim dominated society but how and who can interpret the faith. we saw this with the killing of the jordannian pilot when king abdullah came out and said he was defending islam, not the terrorists. we saw this with the president of egypt when he said we need to come up with a way to reclaim the faith. so it's interesting, here we talked about the language and there they're really talking about the religion and who can claim to own its message. >> michael, this debate in the white house was kind of taken over by the semantics question but what was actually accomplished with this meeting? >> i think that's a good question. very little. i don't think you'll see big policy changes coming out of it. ahead o

islam. last fall the president said that the islamic state is not islamic. eek last week he said that whatever ideology it was that caused the islamic state guerillas and fighters that exist within them to burn a soldier to death, that was all that he could state. but, you know i have before me the koran. and i have post notes here on every citation that the islamic state has used to justify their violence. christianity has had to deal with verses like duts ron any, the war verses. but one of the verses that says fight against them so that allah will fight against them with your hands and disgrace them and give victory over them and heal the breaths of a believing people. that was the title on the air force pilot from jordan. healing the chests of the believers. we're at a point in islamic history. we're at a crossroads just like christians have been and the jews have been. and we have to take passages inside our koran, those war verses and we have to take them on. and we need lick ralberals on our side. >> i agree with you, but that's precisely the point tha

in and how much -- how many assets does the islamic state have in jordan? bviously, it is very difficult to ascertain. but throughout the last four years of the syrian conflict and through the last couple of years, islamic state operating in syria, it has attracted many jordanians to come across the border and join ranks. a number of radical -- have demonstrated not only their pledge of allegiance to the islamic state leader, but they have demonstrated the resentment against the jordanian government. the fear would be if these operatives or these radical individuals would act now and would start operating in part of jordan. >> thanks for joining us. we'll be right back. real transformations can happen as much inside a person as out. that's why you should take the listerine® 21 day challenge. use listerine® and over 21 days you'll experience a transformation. take the listerine® 21 day challenge and start your transformation today. hey matt, what's up? i'm just looking over the company bills. is that what we pay for internet? yup. dsl is about 90 bucks a mont

the islamic state is capitalizing on this action and is calling for more. >> how many assets as the islamic state have in jordan? >> obviously it is very difficult to ascertain, but throughout the last four years of the syrian conflict and the last couple of years of islamic state in syria it has attracted many jordanians to come across the border. they have found access to its amount and number of jordanians where a number of radical cells have demonstrated not only their pledge of allegiance to the leader, but they have demonstrated resentment against the jordanian government. the fear would be if these operatives are to act now and operate inside jordan. >> thank you for joining us. we will be right back. for sensitive bladders from always, the experts in feminine protection. only always discreet underwear has soft dual leakguard barriers to help stop leaks where they happen most. plus, always discreet has a discreet fit that hugs your curves. you barely feel it. new always discreet underwear. now bladder leaks can feel like no big deal. because, hey, pee happens. ♪ stouffer's mac and ch

music accompanying the footage shows just how determined the country is to hit back hard against the islamic state. officials say that injection planes launched airstrikes in eastern libya, hitting eastern targets, including islamic date camp's and bases, avenging the deaths of these men -- 21 coptic christians beheaded i militants on sunday. their community is in mourning, as is the whole of egypt. the country's president visited the leaders of the christian community. his presence a sign of solidarity but also a reminder that for those fighting the islamic state the battle is not about religion. the arab league came out in enormous support of egypt. >> we should cooperate together. it is incumbent on all governments in the region to work together and to ensure that such vile acts will never be repeated. >> bound to be difficult in libya, the country where lone gunmen are in the streets and terrorist attacks are in the increase. it has created a power vacuum filled by rival militant groups. >> does this public acknowledgment of airstrikes mean that egypt has joined the fight against the islamic s

. >> they were not members of the islamic state group. therine clifford explains why they were still so important to the i.s. >> both were on death row in jordan. sajida al-rishawi was a failed suicide bomber. he confessed to shooting a driver and kidnapping two diplomats. sajida al-rishawi and her husband entered a crowded hotel. he set off his explosive belt. 60 people were killed. sajida al-rishawi later fled the scene. she was awaiting the death sentence in this prison. both prisoners had been used as bargaining pawns. why were former operatives of importance to the islamic state group? it is a faction of al qaeda in iraq, but snowballed into the powerful separate entity, which now rivals al qaeda. both prisoners were linked to the slain jordanian leader in iraq. relatives were close aids. he is still celebrated as an inspirational figure by the islamic state group. >> here in france, there has been another terror attack in the town of nice. a man stabbed three soldiers in broad daylight. they were guarding a jewish community center at

the united states. it was only beginning in september 2014 that the islamic state really began saying that it needs to attack the united states, and it's quoting bin laden that you should kill an american wherever you find them. this begins after our involvement, after our air campaign, and so do the beheadings of the american citizens those began after the air campaign. >> charlie: meaning? meaning that one way to read their acts. >> charlie: this is the air campaign in iraq and syria against i.s.i.l? >> i'm talking about the air campaign in iraq that began in august and the one in syria that began in september. >> charlie: without that air campaign what might have been different? >> well, they might not have executed americans in the same way or at the same time, but what might not have been different is there wouldn't have been this call from one of the leader of the united states to attack western targets whenever you can and the call has been heeded in a lot of places. >> charlie: who made that call? >> abu muhammad al-adanni (phonetic), the spokesman who gives a lot of menacing audio statements. >> cha

we don't know why the islamic state decided to burn the man alive. definitely there is something we don't know. we know that the islamic state was negotiating with the jordanian government for the release of the hostage and there was a lot of talks that they could release the japanese hostage in exchange for sajida al-rishawi the al-qaeda member, suicide member sentenced to death by the jordanian courts. >> we at al jazeera won't show any portion of this video, of course but it does underline the sheer barbarity of isil. >> this is very cruel. we never had seen this kind of absolutely before and savage execution, so definitely, this will have a very, very strong feedback or reaction from the jordanian people and jordanian government. we have to remember that when al-qaeda sent suicide bombers to jordan in 2008 by abu bakr al-baghdadi, that the reaction from the jordanian people was very very severe and angry everybody was reeling. i believe the same reaction could happen in jordan now. the jordanian people are united behind the government for the rele

even one of al qaeda's former spiritual leaders says the islamic state went way too far when it burned a jordanian pilot. why he says that is not justified in any way by islam. we'll also take to the streets of amman for a massive protest here. a demonstration in support of the family of the man who was killed, and in support of the strikes against isis. a very busy news hour ahead. let's get to it. >>> now "shepard smith reporting" live in amman, jordan. >>> good evening again from the jordanian capital where no one is believing the story. jordanian government officials in washington and here in amman are, quote, highly speckty cal, unquote, of the islamic state's claim that a jordanian air strike killed an american hostage. cia is investigating the claim about this woman kayla mueller. islamic state showed no proof at all, no pictures or video. that is unlike every other time the group announced a hostage's death. militants captured kayla mueller a year ago early august 2013 in syria, 300 miles north of where we are now in amman. kayla mueller went to syria to help refugee children.

but driving the islamic state from here came at a tremendous cost. hundreds of coalition air strikes, which have flattened most of the town. and the islamic state didn't go far, less than five miles from here. so while kobani has been liberated, the fight against the militants goes on. we headed east closer to the front lines. here, the kurdish fighters are young, but still the fight against islamic state. >> the town has been liberated. it's a big victory. but the bigger win will be to free all of the villages around kobani. we will never allow a single isis fighter to survive in kobani. >> reporter: in the war against the islamic state, the battle for kobani will be remembered. these streets tell that with foreign help i.s. can be defeated. but only at great sacrifice. >> well quenton has now left kobani and made his way to the turkish side of the border and we can talk to him now. quenton, incredible pictures there from inside kobani but 100,000 people left the city. is there any talk of rebuilding of them returning? >> reporter: they're not going

most doubling of all the islamic state serves as a safe haven for terrorist training and planning. similar to afghanistan prior to the september 11 attacks with the islamic state's stated attention to -- quote -- "raise the flag of allah in the white house," and kill -- quote -- "hundreds of millions" in a worldwide -- quote -- "religious cleansely," there can be no doubt that this organization poses a clear and present danger to the national security of the united states and to our allies. not only in the middle east but throughout the world. accordingly, we must fight and defeat this dangerous terrorist organization. madam president, it is therefore, incumbent upon us as legislators to ensure that we provide all the tools necessary for defeating the enemy. personally i agree with the obama administration's previous determination that the president has ample powers to conduct operations against the islamic state under article 2 of the constitution as well as the existing authorizations for the use of military force passed by congress in 2001 against al qaeda and the taliban and in

islam. "these are people changing our religion tracking the principles of islam through the mud. when people hear the word islamic statethey are afraid. when they hear sharia, they are afraid. when they hear islam, they are afraid. this is unfortunately what they have a confli -- what they have accomplished." he says he is dedicated to breaking down prejudices of the islam will be accepted as a welcome part of german society and the place to start is at his mosque. >> al jazeera journalist has arrived home after spending more than a year in an injection prison. he was freed on -- egyptian prison pit he was freed on sunday after more than 400 days in jail in cairo on charges of aiding a terrorist group. >> he spent two days after his release recovering in cyprus before flying back to australia. he was greeted by friends and supporters and reunited with his family. the case has provoked international outcry. 2 journalists arrested with him remain in prison in egypt. >> in an ongoing corruption scandal in brazil, the entire board of directors of the state oil giant petrobras has resigned, including the ceo. >> there was n

came into the picture. >> the islamic state released a video. >> fuel to the fire.iticians talked suf and echoed the rhetoric. from japan... ..to jordan... ..to egypt. >> the case of egypt's response to the killing of the egyptian coptics in libya is an example of how the media is used by both sides, by i.s.i.l. and then by abdul fatah al-sisi, the president of egypt in response to the killings. >> he is using the media to show that egypt is tough and will protect itself and face any change that comes its way. the media is central to the way that abdul fatah al-sisi tries to shape his perception among the public in egypt. >> he is making his case that the muslim brotherhood is practically indistinguishable from some other rad igal jihadist groups. it's a cores of you are with us or against us and the narrative of the war in terror. so you do not support the campaign that is a response to the beheading of citizens and you find yourself in opposition to the national security agenda. the media, literally not only in tandem said that there needs to be an intervention eg

with the islamic state. it's not easy to pin down. you know for example, the so-called islamic state - this they gave a 10,000 message late november last year. he talked about the presence of the islamic state in other places, and libya was one of the places mentioned. we used to talk about al qaeda, local group being franchises of or loyal to or taking a loyalty to pledging the way to the islamic state. that is what happened in libya. it's an area in douma. where they long had a presence but they claimed to be present in other parts of the country as well. >> what does this say about i.s.i.l.'s tactics. we had - the gruesome video of the jordanian pilot with the murders of aide workers and journalists. and now a mass killing of coptic christians. >> well i think what all these things have in common is that they are hate filled. they are sectarian, whether it's shia muslims or coptic christians or western journalists. they are described as crusaders. the message is consistent of a militant extremist groups cl

egypt has opened a new front in the war against the islamic state. on monday, egyptian warplanes bombed northeastern libya after cairo to vowed to avenge the killing of 21 coptic christians, shown in an isis video. egypt says it hit isis sites "precisely." but at least seven civilians including three children, were reportedly killed in the coastal city of derna. egyptian president abdel fattah al-sisi meanwhile called for a u.n. resolution to launch a global coalition to intervene in libya. >> what is going on in libya could change this country to a breeding ground that will threaten the whole region, not only egypt. egypt, the mediterranean basin in europe has to do with this problem of the mission and a cobbler's was unfinished by our european friends. we abandoned the libyan people as prisoners to extremist militias. >> the u.s.-led coalition meanwhile, launched 15 air strikes against isis in iraq and syria on sunday and monday. in pakistan, at least seven people have been killed in the suicide bombing of a police headquarters in the eastern city o

the first leader of the islamic state was also killed in 2010 because of a courier. this leader was a much less impressive speaker -- >> than the present one. >> he is a trade islamic jurist and preacher. he has supposedly written a book on islamic law. he speaks compellingly. >> have you read his speeches? >> i have read all of them and everything he says. >> tell me more about him. >> he is rumored to be about 40 years old. he was born -- >> in iraq. >> he is a iraqi. sumara. he did his phd in baghdad. it is not clear when he joined al qaeda and iraq. he was one of the early leaders. this is all according to what the islamic state itself says about him. in the biography i have read it, it says he is a descendent of the prophet muhammed's tribe. >> how do you think this plays out? >> i think it is very much a long term challenge. >> that is what the president says. >> i agree with him. >> does the goal have to be containing it? or can it be eradicating it? >> i think eradicating it is ambitious. first of all, this is a group that has been around for nine years. that

this is where the islamic state were embedded. ighting here and some of the heaviest air strikes. so something like 600 air strikes -- we'll take a spin to show you the result of those air strikes. and the intensity of the air strikes against the islamic state we haven't seen anywhere else. look at this street. every single building every single vehicle, suffered as a result of this but it was enough to drive the islamic state and fighters out of this part of kobani and kobani entirely. if you look down there, that was the front line about two weeks ago, but the intensity of the air strikes managed to push them out. if we spin around here you get a sense of the closeness of some of the fighting. right down at the bottom of that street, you can see blankets. they were put up by the locals to defend themselves against islamic state snipers, who were a daily threat here, they were in every building. they're not a threat now. it's perfectly safe right in the center of kobani. in the rubble partially buried are the bodies of i.s. fighte

it has to be covered. >> in a campaign being conducted by the so-called islamic state. online videos are powerful currency. they demand attention, telling a story of revenge. invoking real reactions from the enemies. >> the videos are geared towards multiple audiences, towards the audience in the public. in some instances, it is drawing into a confrontation towards support. they want to communicate that they are here to stay. >> anything that contribute to the thee at electrical nature of the display. we don't want to do anything that contribute to that. at the same time, we are a news organization, it's a job to report on this and context ulis it. and explain it. this is the pattern. >> there is another pattern, a framework within i.s.i.l., the territorial aims and propaganda. >> if you are going to be successful, do it now. it was used for iraq in 2002. for libya, under muammar gaddafi in 2011. military enforcement of a zone, and was employed in some forces picture. >> the islamic state released a video. >> fuel to the fire. politicians talked suf and echoed the rhetor

moaz al-kasasbeh, the f-16 pilot captured by the islamic state of iraq and levant last december has been murdered. the government confirmed he was killed on january 3rd, a month before a new video al jazeera will not show was attributed to i.s.i.l. on tuesday. it showed him being supposedly burnt alive. jordan warned the response would be as grave as the anger of the jordanian people and their king cut short a visit to washington d.c. >> translation: with sadness and sorrow we received the news about the martyrdom of moaz al-kasasbeh. that deviant gang not related to our nobodial faith. our heroic pilot moaz al-kasasbeh died defending his faith, homeland. >> reporter: riots broke out from where moaz al-kasasbeh hails from. people believe that they are trying to stir up unrest. in the tribal gathering center relatives and fellow tribesman were devastated at the news. they've been meeting for days and hours. waiting to hear any news about the fate of the pilot. >> of course we will respond marchingly. jordan will retaliate. we will not remain silent. >> some questioning jordan's role in th

part of dealing with that is getting theis authorization and showing that the united states is serious about attacking the islamic state. to answer your question specifically what i think they will do is maintain his promise to not send troops back. they will want an authorization they give them the flexibility to continue airstrikes, and possibly the flexibility to do more going forward. i think what you will see is something that is fairly limited to what is actually already taking place now. pretty much focused on airstrikes. host: (202) 748-8000 that is online for democrats. (202) 748-8001 four republicans. as congress debates military action on isis, we want to be your thoughts, comments, and questions on that. let me tell you about another topic, angela merkel's meeting on isis. what do you expect tomorrow? guest: tomorrow i think it will be another meeting related to war. it will be the war on ukraine. the coalition, or the western allies of the united states and europe have until now been on the same page about how to handle president putin of russia. a have imposed some very serious sanctions that have h

the islamic peace talks? fama there are two factions. this is the vacuum the islamic state is exploding. there needs to be a unity government and cohesive army that can go after this terrorist group. >> there a such concern in washington about what is happening. do you see the americans getting involved? >> i do think there is a sense in washington they are becoming more concerned. for a while it was let the europeans handle it present there are terrorist groups and libyan arms are destabilizing. this is a problem that affects not just the surrounding neighborhood but the entire region. >> it seems like it is deteriorating so fast, even since you were there a few weeks ago. >> very shocking how things turned. i think washington is taking a second look at their approach in this country right now. >> thank you very much for joining us. tonight the cease-fire in eastern ukraine is looking increasingly fragile. just a day after it went into effect the ukrainian military command said pro-russian rebels have attacked more than 100 times since early yesterday. from there are international -- our

state. >> well let's remember who the extremists are, it's not just the islamicte in al qaeda. islamic revolution that rules in tehran has been for 35+ years, the biggest financial source for terrorism around the world. sunni terrorists shia terrorists, an equal opportunity funder. that's the regime that we're dealing with on their nuclear weapons program. it makes vladimir putin look like a pillar of stability. lou: vladimir putin, but in washington, d.c., president obama holding a summit which i have to tell you frankly, john i thought i was watching sensitivity training and diversity training. >> you are! that's what it is. lou: amazing. >> that's what it. is that is the approach of somebody who deep in his soul believes that appeasement is the way to resolve these problems, that if the united states simply withholds its capability to effect the outcome that our adversaries see that we don't have any ill intention against them, and they'll voluntarily give up their assault on our way of life. neville chamberlin wasn't a secret pro nazi. he was a weak man, that