at 18 you leave the family in florida and go to new york, the juilliard school. stigious acting school. you did do the hard yards of theatrical training, didn't you, to be a serious actor, didn't you? >> for a couple of years, then they kicked me out. >> who was your inspiration then? >> oh, gosh, laurence olivier and gregory peck, jimmy stewart, john wayne. >> the greats. >> the greats. >> did you ever imagine at that stage when you were at the juilliard, you were looking around all these talented people, presumably. did you ever imagine in your wildest dreams or maybe nightmares the level of fame that you would one day get through acting? >> no. it's funny. there was something -- i did believe that i was going to be successful as an actor. and i did realize that if you're successful as an actor, it might come along with fringe benefits, i guess, or peripheral anxieties. but that it was possible that i would have a very rewarding, successful and fulfilling life creatively. and if i just stuck to it and worked really hard and didn't doubt myself, which, of course,