the lands in the west are the lands nobody wanted. the states made applications for the lands they did want to incorporate into state ownership or privatization because the lands are so air rid, the majority of the lands remained in federal ownership simply because the state didn't want them. nevada is the dryest state in the nation, and the mow mojave desert where this is occurring america. the land policy management act of 1976 explicitly stated that the lands in federal public ownership would remain so inperpetuity unless it could be proven that it was in the national interest to do others. the united states enjoys a unique heritage among nations of the world where we have set aside a vast acreage for the enjoyment of our citizens in a way that won't degrade the land, in a way that everyone can enjoy, and unfortunately a person like cliven bundy decides to make 600 acres of american public land his own. >> rob, we're going to take a short break, when we come back we'll talk about the particular case véeera america >> welcome back to

powerful forces, all of whom think right is on their side, compete for the land. the right of stewardship is questioned as to who loves the land most and to whom should should it be entrusted. [mike noel] it seems to be in their best interest to create controversy and to really squash down local communities, to pile on industry, even though the industry is creating jobs and not harming the environment. they don't seem to want common ground. [tim dechristopher] the environmental movement has always been defensive. it's always been where someone wants to destroy this much and the environmental community convinces them only to destroy this much. [narrator] ultimately, wilderness of the west belongs to the american people who should control its fate. [rick draney] i understand that they are just as passionate about their views and their opinions and their perspectives. but i think there is still plenty of room and plenty of space to have some meaningful dialogue and find some common ground, somewhere in the middle. [robert redford] i think the greatest point to be made

they wanted to own the land their family had been farming. ool the incident had been painful, the struggle was a long one. it began almost 10 years ago when they survived an attack that killed seven farmers during a protest against the sugar matter. it was worried that the harassment of farmers may lead to more violence. . >> they continue to harass us, displace us. land is important to us, it's our life. we will fight for it, even if it means more of us will die. we stand united. >> she blames it on this man. >> president akeno's family owns the sugar foundation. aquino was the congressman at the time it happened. he said he owned 5% and gave up the shares when sworn in as president. he insists his government is committed to providing a long-term solution to the problem. >> he gave instructions that government programs to support farmers should continue, even after land distribution. >> for florida, this is not enough. she says they want justice. especially from a man whose mandate is to protect them. >> this reports of a progress. filipino f

why doesn't the government favor the land over the people? they tied the lands to the species. if people want to retain an authority, the freedom to run as they want, they have the ability to not let their livelihood jeopardize these species, based on the mitigation of that habitat destruction. that is paramount. we're having this come up right now, as the same players are involved right now in trying to create a way to make sure that these lands were these cattle are grazing, is not -- the quality stays to a level where it will not be regulated. that involves a whole host of reasons. at the end of the day, the endangered species issue is a major crunch point. if you live in these areas, it is the worst thing that can happen. you follow the government. host: have you talked to senator reid? guest: not since he left for d.c. i have talked to his staff. yes, certainly about things. they are frustrated with the bundy situation and the fact that he has been targeted as being the force behind all of this. they have used stronger language than that. xxxxx they think it is ludicrous.

the school leased the land to a mining company. >> the tribe only gets the land off it is looted. >> at seems to be the pattern. >> reporter: now they hope to lobby the government to declare the entire 103 square area, and take full ownership on what the government promised would be a sovereign nation. >> it's a worldwide problem that indigenous people are also left out of the decision-making process. >> reporter: but even if granted the tribe stewardship, chairman berry admits this land will not recover for many decades to come. >>> coming up on al jazeera america, helping families with autistic children. a new technology can help track them. >>> and a new exhibit opening at the national history museum, giving anyone a chance to experience the prehistoric age. [ male announcer ] it's here -- xfinity watchathon week, your chance to watch full seasons of tv's hottest shows for free with xfinity on demand. there's romance, face slaps, whatever that is, pirates, helicopters, pirate-copters... argh! hmm. it's so huge, it's being broadcast on mars. heroes...bad guys... asteroids. available

we tell of ourselves in the land and identity. ooks include "the color of nature, culture, identity and the natural world" in 2011. "bedrock, writers on the wonders of geology" in 2006. and "living with the changing california coast," also written in 2006. published in 2006. dr. savoy is now completing a manuscript of memoir narrative nonfiction tracing how human experience and the history of the american landscape itself has from fragmented tellings, artificially pulled apart what cannot be disentangled. nature and race. she is professor of environmental studies and geology at -- the title of her presentation today is: "restore ing an african-american presence in this land." the third panelist is tracy mcquarter. she is a vegan trail blazer. public health nutrition expert, author and international lecturer, who has been named a national food hero. her national best seller "by any greens necessary: a revolutionary guide for black women who want to eat great, get healthy, lose weight, and look fat, and that's phat" published in two

for the soft landing? we will have to wait to see. august the, elon musk feels good enough to stand in front of cameras and talk about it, assign that that confidence in the future. >> the way this works, the land and the water uses less propellant. the rocket basically tries to slow down the weight comes into the atmosphere, so it needs more energy, more propellant meaning less payload, lessig can deliver. it's always about the payback and the decisions about balancing how much they can deliver and how much propellant they need. >> cory johnson and peter cook, thank you both. still ahead, what happened to google plus now that the man who led the social efforts is leaving the company? you can watch a streaming on your phone, tablet, bloomberg.com, apple, and amazon tv. ♪ >> this is "bloomberg west." wave, googlegoogle friend connect. all three social efforts by google that flopped. is google plus next? the head of social network is leaving the company after eight years. google says this does not signal the

how come the land becomes the federal land and not at least the state of texas? i don't know why the rancher loses it but why does the federal government get it over the state of texas? >> i'm not certain why. we can't think of a very good reason. but, we know now that some 130 acres that used to block to tommy henderson is now under the control of the federal government. it's my understanding it has something to do with tribal lands and -- that were part of the land on the other side of the river. but i'm not an attorney. and i can't really debate those fine points. i don't know why. but we have seen an aggressive overreach by the federal government and in more than one instance, if you have got an agency like, this that's very well funded, with a lot of people involved, then you shouldn't be surprised if they are going to overreach and extend that aggressive approach. >> well, what the blm is now saying they are categorically not expanding federal holdings along the red river. it's just a fear of texas ranchers or is blm not playing it it straight with us? whic

he is not right about being the on the land longer than the government. that land is federal land. >> i think the family was there before even blm -- >> forget blm. i'm talking about the federal government has owned that land since whoever we got it from. >> we have to leave it there. it's a hot debate. before we go, we want to elaborate that "the five" hope and pray for a peaceful resolution for that stand off. president o takes the stage at al shar ton's conference. next on "the five." your hepatitis c.forget it's slow moving, you tell yourself. i have time. after all there may be no symptoms for years. no wonder you try to push it to the back of your mind and forget it. but here's something you shouldn't forget. hepatitis c is a serious disease. if left untreated, it could lead to liver damage and potentially even liver cancer. if you are one of the millions of people with hepatitis c, you haven't been forgotten. there's never been a better time to rethink your hep c. because people like you may benefit from scientific advances. advances that could help

but bundy doesn't own the land. the federal government does. and in order to graze cattle on federal land, you have to pay land use fees. bundy stopped paying those fees in 1993. he now owes the government over $1 million. you see, bundy doesn't think the federal government owns the land. in fact, he doesn't recognize the federal government at all. >> i abide by all of nevada state laws, but i don't recognize united states government as even existing. >> the courts disagree with mr. bundy's reading of the constitution and have ordered him to pay for his use of the land like every other rancher does. last year, a federal district court ruled that the blm was entitled to seize and remove bundy's cattle. >> he owes the american people $1 million because he has not obeyed the laws. >> earlier this year they started rounding up some of bundy's cattle that illegally grazed on his land. on wednesday a confrontation between bundy family members and supporters and federal rangers went viral. >> comply, comply. >> the feds say officers were assaulted and

the ownership of land from the ownership of the homes on top. what happens is a fiber to live in a community land trust or anybody here you might get a mortgage and buy a home like anybody else but you don't own the land underneath your home. who owns the land underneath your home is a collection of all the presidents surrounding residents and local leaders, politicians or church leaders or people in the neighborhood who are always helping. what that means is that the land is guaranteed for affordable housing and it takes is the collective nature, speculation out of being connected to this land. not only does it keeps the homes on top of the land significantly more affordable but it allows communities to make decisions about what happens in their borders. imagine a situation in which communities had the ability to make these real decisions about that -- what happens inside them. imagine the effect that would have not just in terms of housing but in terms of local policeing, environmental rights, hospitals, whether to build a prison or to build a

instead of the federal government? it's still public land. he still would've had to pay grazing fees on the state land. that is a legitimate policy issue. but for anyone to think that any of what went on with sean hannity and dean heller and the rest of them had anything to do with policy. dean heller called these folks up there patriots. i wonder how he feels today, joy. >> yeah, indeed, and not to mention the heavy subsidization -- all of those militia types that were hanging around the bundy ranch, are they still there? or are they even starting to waver in terms of wanting to hang out with this guy and protect him with their guns? >> i haven't been up there, but the reporters who have been say there's quite a few of them up there. and if you saw any of the -- i watched the entire 19-minute press conference that bundy had. a lot of them are up there supporting him saying that the media's spinning this, making him out to be prejudice. so i think the certain corps of these folks who are up there supporting bundy or whatever movement they ha

the state of nevada, his issue is that the federal government has no business controlling 86% of the land in nevada. that is his beef. he says i'll gladly pay clark county and the state but not about to pay the federal government. >> it's a protest movement. it sounds like what you're saying and what i've seen just as a lawyer reading documents is that legally, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. but he's trying to raise a larger point about the fact, as you point out, over 80% of nevada, of the lands are owned bit feds something to which he objects because his family has been there for generations. >> well, and cliven bundy says this is not about cows or dessert tortoise. it's about state rights. and his big beef with the blm could be avoided i'm worried and a lot of my listeners are very worried this is escalating. one listener yesterday by the name of joe said he's going on saturday, going tomorrow, he's going to take a tub of ice, water, and he's going to take weapons when that happens i get scared >> i worry about law enforcement officers on the scene, they're there doing their jobs.

he is not right about being the on the land longer than the government. that land is federal land. >> i think the family was there before even blm -- >> forget blm. i'm talking about the federal government has owned that land since whoever we got it from. >> we have to leave it there. it's a hot debate. before we go, we want to elaborate that "the five" hope and pray for a peaceful resolution for that stand off. president o takes the stage at al shar ton's conference. next on "the five." huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know bad news doesn't always travel fast? (clears throat) hi mister tompkins. todd? you're fired. well, gotta run. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. sunny or bubbly? cozy or cool? "meow" or "woof"? wheels or wheeeels? everything exactly the way you want it ...until boom, it's bedtime. your mattress isn't bliss: it's a battleground of thwarted desire. enter the all-new sleep number classic series. designed to let couples sleep togeth

the 140 acres in question were determined to be public land in 1986 when the u.s. district court ruled on a case brought by two private land owners. each seeking to adjust boundary lines for their respective properties. the blm was not party to any litigation between the land owners. you've been paying taxes. you say you see this as another potential land grab. what do you think they're trying to do? why are they doing this? >> well, ma'am, to answer your first question. you kind of asked what the blm is doing. they say they're not expanding acres and i see that as them saying they're not and paneleding because they believe they already own them. the truth is, it is by our grace that the blm actually is still what they are. i may not, we're a republic. it is a government by the people. and the people support that. so they are expanding acres. next, what could it be? it could be anything from the recreational value of it. right now, land in texas is not necessarily driven by production but by the money that can be derive from what can be recreation. hunting, fishing,

few were native to the land. the rest were i am grants. and if you are an immigrant by yourself, your father, your granted gary, your great grandfather was an immigrant. immigrants are moving energy they come here with wonderful experience, with a unique language. the somalis. kurdish did. they come with their experience and an energy, a new energy that revives. whenever they come to an area, that may make that area talk about what is going on, the food, the tradition, the cultures that they have. >> you talk about the moving energy. nick says immigrants are some of the hardest working people. tony, he talked about resilience and rockbie tweeted as an immigration attorney, my clients are most challenged by language access issues and cultural differences sand mitaki, iranian dissent. it's a shared commitment to sharing finite resources. it's about economics and speaking about sharing, you were the one talking about community. look. we are both sons of pakistani immigrants. what's interesting is oftentimes in the community, when they want to

you have to rights but the solution is to sell the land. if he wants to farm on it he should buy it and anyone else should buy it. that's what should be done. not calling honest hard working americans terrorists like the despicable harry reid. >> he calls the people that are supporting -- not just the family of the ranchers domestic terrorists, anyone who is out there because then he feels that because they may be violating some law they could be considered domestic terrorist. i just calls into question, every day hundreds of thousands or millions of people come across the mexican, u.s. border. they break the law. are they considered in the left's opinion domestic terrorists as well? they would be foreign terrorists, right? >> you're right. if the bundy family were illegal immigran immigrants, they would be cheering them on. if they were unions, they would be getting waivers. if they were a corporation they would be getting a delay. but because they're average americans whose way of life is under government regulation the left doesn't care.

it is our land, the taxpayers land. and yes, that is the case.there are many times when people are able to use the public lands for a lot of different functions. everything from camping to recreation to offloading -- offloading and hiking and grazing, too. it is a situation where public land is more closely regulate it. it varies and is not uniform across public lands. there is also the regulation that asks the ranchers to pay a fee per head of cattle per month they are going to be grazing. something everyone is supposed to be paying attention to. as taxpayers, we have a right to public lands, but in another sense, you could argue that bundy is freeloading a little bit. there are rules for when you take your cattle to certain places you have to pay for that , right and he is not. other ranchers are. it is a very murky thing. most taxpayers are not ranchers. most taxpayers -- if you want to walk around that land, that is a lot easier to do. host: just to be clear, this case with cliven bundy is not

the land. over the last 20 years and all of that. >> i didn't even get that part of it, michael. we still need to know what the real dispute there was. from a legal standpoint this guy -- >> there is no standing here for this guy. that's obvious. >> without a legal argument? >> i'll be honest i can't speak to all of that because i don't know what the ultimate motivation beyond sort of the popular sentiment among some conservatives that the constitution is under assault. these become rallying cries until they are not. and that's the situation here. look, you know, there is conservatism that is about individual opportunities and freedoms and then there's what this guy apparently -- i don't even call this conservatism. this is not what the conservatism or the party is about from my standpoint. somehow we wrap our arms around it and it always comes back to bite in a very important way. and i think leaders like rand paul and others need to be much more careful and smarter about how you articulate the

if they claim to be good stewards of the land and the land will be beneficial to the american public,merican public isn't benefitting. he's claiming he has title to the easement and maybe he does and that's something perhaps they can work out. they approached this heavy-handed from get-go. if these cattle, blm called them trespass cattle. if they were people and here illegally, the department of justice would be running guns to them and the department of homeland security would be driving by with free government phones and ebt cards. because they are cattle they are rounding them up and killing them, he had thousands of heads that have been reduced dramatically. he's the last rancher in this county because the land management has run off everybody, even those with a a valid claim to easement on the land. what they are doing is ridiculous and it needs to stop. >> they are killing the cattle? >> yeah, multiple reports. i talked to mr. bundy today and he said that's what they think those big old trucks are there for. they have taken 300 cattle from him with intent to destroy. >> the prob

plus -- a new ranch showdown in the heart land as the feds try a land grab in texas. wait until you see how texas is responding. plus, more than 40 people shot in a single weekend in the windy city. >> one of the things we need to do is change our gun laws. >> now they are blaming guns. is that fair? senator rand paul live from chicago. and then the radical rant from an angry professor. >> racist, my soj nis, money grubbing people. >> his wild attack on conservatives and the wild story of what happened from a student there for the melt down. on "the kelly file" right now. >>> developing tonight, new fallout from a controversial ruling from the u.s. supreme court. upholding michigan's voter supported ban on using race as a factor in college admissions. affirmative action in the michigan college system and perhaps beyond is now over. welcome to "the kelly file." i'm megyn kelly. the 6-2 decision, one of of the justices rekuzed herself, sparking fierce reaction tonight. justices in the majority say this is not about resolving the debate over affirmative action everywhere.

grazing fees are the dues paid by ranchers who graze their cattle on land owned not by them but by theederal government. for 20 years, bundy has been grazing on federal land without paying. today, he owes the government over $1 million in fees and fines. that means for two decades, the government has been subsidizing bundy and his ranch. and if there's one thing we know about cliven bundy, it's that he doesn't like subsidies. >> and i'm often wondered, were they better off as slaves picking cotton and having family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy. >> cliven bundy is very concerned about the impact of government subsidies -- on african-americans, that is. he is apparently lessed about the effect of government subsidies on people like him because over the years cliven bundy has been the beneficiary of a benefit subsidy, and he's not alone. ranchers like bundy, even the ones who do pay their fees, receive millions in subsidies every year grazing on federal land. the federal government charges $1.35 per cow/calf paer month. on private land, it's over

over seen by the bureau of land management. rted in 1993 when it was declared for the federally protected desert tortoise. bundy pay new grazing fees and continued letting his cattle graze on the land. he said his ancestors worked the land since the 1870s, long before the burro was formed granting him the rights to the property. in 1998 they revoked his grazing permit and issued the cattle off the land. the judge authorized the government to impound the cattle and this weekend that impoundment began and as of monday, authorities seized 134 cattle that belonged to bundy. he is going to have a range war with federal officials ask say he's not backing down. joining me now to explain, the nevada rancher clyde bundy. thanks for being with us, sir. >> thank you, sean. i'm happy you called this public land. you know, this is public land that we the people of clark county nevada own and i'm glad you called it public land. >> it is interesting. your cattle. this is public land. it's not being used. in my mind, i'm not a rancher, but i wo

even though henderson has been paying taxes and taking care of the land the entire time. >> i have continued to have to pay for this land or the federal government would seize everything else i had. i made my last payment on land i lost in 1994. >> greg abbott getting in on the site saying the blm's claim undermines the foundation of our democracy. it is unclear how seriously the blm is trying to claim the land but it is a store we we will watch for you. >> the united states raising the stakes in the ue kwan. american soldiers rushing to the border they are there for military exercises. another 450 will be deployed to three other countries. >> they are trembling in their boots at the kremlin. the i think it is the right thing to do. it is an absence follow through by the administration. >> u.s. military personnel sifting through the rubble in yemen after a series of drone strikes and a source tells fox news if the strikes were cared why out by the cia since 2012. they are identifying bodies but one is reportedly al qaeda's bomb maker. they may remember that. a source familiar with

you're supposed to pay for the use of the land. onstitution says that you should pay for it. the constitution in your pocket that you have inside your jacket says that the government, the federal government can own land. you know all of this but you're resisting the rules -- >> okay. how much land does this say they can own? how much land does it say they can own? you tell me. that's a very good question. in five minutes you can figure out how much land they can own. you tell me. >> the constitution in article 1 section 8 and in the fifth amendment gives the federal government the right to appropriate and purchase land. your state constitution recognizes -- >> for what person? for what purpose? >> for purposes it deems appropriate. >> for what purpose can they do it? no, it don't say that. >> it absolutely does. you should read the book as opposed to just hold it in your pocket maybe. if you look at your state constitution, it says it respects the federal law. that's why your ranchers, your brother and sister ranchers pay the fees t

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it's the bureau of land management. republicans are now absolutely obsessed with this federal government agency. they claim that the blm is out of control, they don't know how to do thingans the new movement against this government agency is being led by none other than sean hannity. these jokers can get enough air time. hannity's shameful and that's exactly what it is. it's not journalism in any sense of the word. it is shameful coverage of a law breaking rancher named cliven bundy and it has literally put the bureau of land management in the crosshairs of sniper rifles. >> there's major concern that the federal government could be eyeing yet another massive land grab, this time it's northern texas. the state's attorney general greg abbott is warning the blm wants to seize over 90,000 acres of land near the red river, close to the border of oklahoma. shocking new video of the destruction left behind of the bur roaf land management after it took over cliven bundy's ranch. a former nevada sheriff claims his sources inside

to make claim for the solar zone adjacent to the grazing land. they call it more than a coincidence. the new director is a former policy to senator harry reid. he endorsed the judge originally ruled against bundy for a seat on the supreme court. while his son is a lobbyist for chinese energy giant, which proposed building a $5 million solar plant in clark county. so here's the irony. turtles and solar also don't mix according to environmentalists who are suing for approving solar permits in torise habitat is. the blm considers him an outlaw and did beat and will go after him in the court. senator reid said late today this is not over and that clyde and monday should not be permitted to break the law. lou: thank you very much. no one should be above the law. our first guest tonight says the problem is and that he didn't pay user fees or fines, it has nothing to do with whether his cattle were bothering tortoises, it is simply he is not a harry reid donor. joining us, conservative radio tatalk show host, anchor of the show on the blaze tv network. g

i too sit on the land use committee and i'm prepared to vote i request for a continuance, however, i was wondering if you could give some kind of indication of how much ground you expect to cover knowing the issue a little bit more it's unclear to how to bring with the two parties parties together >> when i exhibited for a one week continuances it was my hope that whatever the last-ditch effort for both parties to how do you plead u come up with an agreement to move forward or have a positive discussion of trying to resolve it. i wasn't too sure if that was going to happen i left it up to the two parties i feel everyone is an did you want. because of the meeting on monday they can be pretty much this morning and double-checked with everyone there was enough positive discussion for both parties to want to continue it. whether it's going to come to a solution i don't know. as you know this issue has been around for seems like a decade. so for me to ask for this continuance as a desire for both parties compared to 10 years that's been in discussion i would be more than willing to support

the facts aren't in dispute. he has been using land that he doesn't own for over 20 years, and he didn't pay. he broke the law. >> why is the left so determined to make rancher cliven bundy pay a steep price in the nevada cattle controversy? we have a special report. >> sorry. >> [ laughter ] >> a a brand new scientific study says smoking pot will definitely hurt you. we will present the facts tonight. >> i feel sadness for the tsarnaevs who were used as scapegoats. i don't think the act was carried out by the guys blamed for it. >> also ahead, why would a national news program put that statement on the air on the anniversary of the boston marathon terror attack? we will try to find out. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >>> hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. a low point for getting high. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. once in a while, the federal government can actually launch a successful public health campaign. the antismoking the feds trott

he said he was on the land long before the government got involved. the tortoise has the edge on this one. >> i had tortoise soup, and i am in favor of the rancher. >> why are the cows a danger to the tortoise? >> i think they destroy the environment the tortoise live on. it's interesting, because it shows a certainty vied in the democratic party. t one of the main forces in the democratic party besides unions are environmentalist, the battle between the working man and the environmentalist, the insraoeurenvironmentalist will time. >> the fight started when the farmer stopped paying the grazing fees. i would not have moved into pick up these herds of cattle and get them on to other land. it's kick the can down the road. >> they used the tortoise as an excuse. >> this is nuts. we have come a long way. i was watching "big country," and it's always about land and cattle and water, and now it's about the cows and tortoises? are you nuts? there is no way in the world this should have come to this. >> this is united states? what are you talking about? >> wh

the bundy ranch. it's become ground zero between frustrated land owners and the burro of land management. there is a growing number of supporters for rancher cliven bundy vowing to stand behind a man that's become their hero with a face-off with armed government officers. the feds view bundy as an out law of sorts who is refusing to obey the law of the land and pay grazing fees. earlier this week the confrontation turned ugly. [ bleep ]. >> back up! >> bundy's son was tasered and sister knocked to the ground. as the story gets attention, other ranchers, farmers and self-described militia groups are rallying to bundy's cause at meetings like this one held on wednesday. >> so you imagine what happened to those calfs out there right now? we give a dang about these turtles and mustangs. did god not create the cow? they got some less right than any other animal and then, and then, this is where it really gets rough, okay? this is where it goes way beyond. they control an army of men down there with sniper rifles on guys just like you are, people just like you, men, women and children just like

why does the government own all of this land anyway? >> sean, i'm going to make a statement that the government will consider outrageous. almost everybody watching us now will understand it, and i expect you'll appreciate it. the constitution simply does not authorize the federal government to own any of this land. all of it is being held unconstitutionally and all of it should be returned to the private property owners from which it was taken or to the states in whose borders it exists, period. >> i agree with you. not only that, they can't afford to manage it anyway. when you think of the bundy situation, it's about cliven bundy's cattle eating government grass and not paying for it and then snipers and sharp-shooters surround the ranch. good to see you. thank you. >> thanks for having me, sean. >> coming up tonight right here on "hannity". >> i don't think americans want to see another exhibition from the federal government of them coming in with armed troops over an issue that ought to be taken care of with common sense. >> president

to the state land, never asking some key questions such as really, can the state really take caref that land any better than the feds? and does anyone think that cliven bundy who got away with not paying his bills for 20 years that the federal government would have paid the state government? so, yeah, there's still that out there. some of the prominent folks and sean hannity got out his pejorative words and his thesaurus and started spewing all of that. but they still sympathize with this guy. no question about it. >> thank you, up next do you remember the republican presidential candidate who was a pizza king? contestants on "jeopardy" didn't. "the side show" is next. never been a better time to buy a jetta tdi clean diesel. avo: during the first ever volkswagen tdi clean diesel event, get a great deal on a jetta tdi. it gets 42 highway miles per gallon. and get a $1,000 fuel reward card. it's like two deals in one. volkswagen has the most tdi clean diesel models of any brand. hurry in and get a $1,000 fuel reward card and 0.9% apr for 60 months on tdi models. be a sound sleeper,

the bundy ranch in nevada about an hour northeast of vegas. it's become ground 0 a struggle between frustrated western land owners and the bureau of land management. there is a growing number of supporters for rancher cliven bundy in an tense standoff. the feds view bundy as an out law of sorts refusing to pay grazing fees. this week, the confrontation turned ugly. bundy's son, tasered. his sister, knocked to the ground the story gets attention, other ranchers and groups are rallying to bundy's cause and meetings like this one held on wednesday. >> so you imagine what happened right now. okay? did god not create the cow? they've got us on the left, right. and then, and then, this is where it gets rough, okay? this is where it goes way the hell beyond. they can throw an army of men around there. literally. with snipers. on people just like you are. men, women and children just like you are. okay they do believe they have a right to be there. you believe you can be there. some day, they're going to throw that army of men around you. and then, somehow if you're like they got the right to draw the damn tripod on the ground so if you cross the line, t

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that will come to the commission. if this land turns into a park but the planning commission will look at that >> my concern is we'll still have jurisdiction over the lands in the future to consider various options. >> yes. your have jurisdiction if there's proposals for development. may i the commercial uses in the plaza program our goal was to get the general policy out there first so the actions and specific items that might come before you would be consistent with the policy that's why this plan should preseed some of the particular actions you'll see many more acts over the coming years in dealing with public space. the plazas program i reviewed was one of those so our goal was to a get the general policy plans in front of of you first >> thank you. >> thank you commissioner hillis. >> so i'll agree with that comment it will be good to get this general policy adapted first. so, i mean i'm supportive of this i think people are passionate about their open space and paradoxes we've seen this is a great job of balancing that. i u

we are not selling off the land. it's not going to some other corporation. it's being held by the housing authority, in terms of the 99-year lease. there is a 55-year tax credit affordability requirement. there will be requirements related to the project-based rental assistance contract. mocd will have secondary loans on the property. to ensure stewardship of the sites as long-term well-run affordable housing. the residents will have the same eviction protections. will have the same affordable rents. will maintain the same grievance procedures, and maintain the right to file complaints with housing authority and hud. there was some mention about the wait list. this remains a centralized wait list with some modification. residents on the wait list with identify specific sites they wish to be preferenced for, but it's a sprlized -- centralized wait list. >> just to point out the same protections and the same standards, is that going to be codified? >> it would absolutely be codified at some point, whether in the land agreement or loan agreement, it would be cod