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see what's really in your dog's bowl at iams.com. >>> we're back with the legal panel and jim, first people who are so uninformed about the jury system and how hard jurors work in every single trial. the second guessers. this man just said, i really focused on the witnesses, the questioning. i didn't want to miss anything. and shame on anybody out there who's trashing this jury verdict and thinks that he can second guess it and say it's wrong. we should say thank you to this jury and jurors on every and appalling. maybe you don't feel the same way i do. >> hi, greta. i do. i have my own critiques about the law but they didn't choose to be there. they were picked by prosecutors and defense attorneys, sworn in we the judge. they deserve nothing but respect for what they did. on cases that i lost or didn't get the verdict i wanted, i'd look at myself because i picked the jurors, i put on the best case i could. people ought to look at themselves like the prosecutors in this case and not attacking the defendant or these jurors. i find it despicable to attack the particular jurors. they we
see what's really in your dog's bowl at iams.com. >>> we're back with the legal panel and jim, first people who are so uninformed about the jury system and how hard jurors work in every single trial. the second guessers. this man just said, i really focused on the witnesses, the questioning. i didn't want to miss anything. and shame on anybody out there who's trashing this jury verdict and thinks that he can second guess it and say it's wrong. we should say thank you to this jury and...
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he has more to say and hear more from the legal panel and is the justice department doing something unusual with the george zimmerman case and all about politics? we'll tell you what doj is doing. karl rove is here to talk about that coming up. ming iinout.methrementgh t enar for os ch.oolcexpe how mu protein does your dog food have? enar for os 18 percent? 20? new purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learmore at purinaone.com [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat mo dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions can help you do what you do... even better. ♪ úkúñy]/;o@=swoñofpwgpñÑ @>g74/w?xoóçpnooowvúéñi/ 7k every day we're working too... and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000
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the judge. our legal panel is back. nnis, does this reflect poorly on the prosecution like they can't get their act together? >> well, i don't know how any of them kept a straight case. it was kind of hysterical. on the heels of bernie de la rionda trying to cross-examine someone on their twitter account and didn't know the difference between follower and following. i thought it was appalling today and broke some of the tension, frankly. >> bernie, does it hurt at all? does the jury look at that and say, oh, these guys don't know what they are doing. if they don't know what they are doing with the tech issues, maybe they don't know what they are doing with the case? first of all, in my experience, there is a good chance that my secretary, who has my i.t. skills, set this up phone call. when you are in a courtroom, and diana knows this, and ted knows it, if you are going to try something technological. plug it in, turn it on and i maxed out. better do it before the jury comes in. this happened every single time and it's h
the judge. our legal panel is back. nnis, does this reflect poorly on the prosecution like they can't get their act together? >> well, i don't know how any of them kept a straight case. it was kind of hysterical. on the heels of bernie de la rionda trying to cross-examine someone on their twitter account and didn't know the difference between follower and following. i thought it was appalling today and broke some of the tension, frankly. >> bernie, does it hurt at all? does the jury...
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with me, the best legal panel around. first, the highlights from closing. here's our martin savidge. >> reporter: unlike his profanity laced opening, the closing began with more rev rant tones. >> a teenager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own. he is dead because another man made assumptions. >> reporter: the prosecutor condensed the state's nine-day case into two hours, emphasizing the claim that george zimmerman actively profiled trayvon martin. >> he profiled him as a criminal. he assumed certain things, that trayvon martin was up to no good. and that is what led to his death. >> reporter: the state contends zimmerman is a wannabe cop who had grown increasingly frustrated by a series of break-ins by criminals who always managed to get away. his narrative paused just once for a recess and was interrupted at another point for an objection. the defense attorney mark o'hara says the state was wrongfully interpreting the law. the state often returned to its tactic of using zimmerman's own words against him. >> he does not want to admit at all that
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let's ask the legal panel, benjamin crump, mark car -- mark geragos, sunny hostin, jeffrey toobin. >> you observed this juror in the courtroom every single day, and apparently, you were pretty surprised as she was the holdout juror. why was that? >> i wasn't surprised necessarily she was the holdout juror, i was surprised she basically, wolf, said that her understanding of the law was that she had to determine that george zimmerman, when he left his home, intended to kill trayvon martin. that was shocking to me because all along during the state's case, she seemed to be listening so intently. she seemed to understand the arguments so well, and she in particular when listening to the jury instructions was so attentive. so i was very surprised that she seemed to have just a misunderstanding of the law. that really surprised me. >> i'm sure it surprised a lot of people. caroline, you're a jury consultant. let me play sound from this juror 29 talking about those specific jury instructions. listen to this. >> for myself, he's guilty because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of
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let's ask the legal panel.u've answered this before, but in case we've forgoten it. >> life in florida is natural life meaning we do not have parole. >> greta: so automatic murder 2, gone for life? >> well, 25 year minimum mandatory. best case you get 25 years, worst case, you get life which is natural life. manslaughter in low end of 12 years. high end is 30 because there is a firearm. so it's also serious so you've got serious scary stuff he's looking at. >> greta: lawyers on both sides, i mean they have a responsibility but being a defense lawyer knowing tonight your client could be going away, it's tough. >> i, i can tell you doing trials i don't eat, i don't sleep. i don't do anything but conten trait on the market very someone's life in my hand. i was interested today he seemed to argue strongly against second degree murder. but he barely touch that had underline offense of manslaughter chi found interesting. >> greta: i don't blame him. jim i thought the prosecutor didn't do much arguing for murder in th
let's ask the legal panel.u've answered this before, but in case we've forgoten it. >> life in florida is natural life meaning we do not have parole. >> greta: so automatic murder 2, gone for life? >> well, 25 year minimum mandatory. best case you get 25 years, worst case, you get life which is natural life. manslaughter in low end of 12 years. high end is 30 because there is a firearm. so it's also serious so you've got serious scary stuff he's looking at. >> greta:...
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. >> so we now know as we were just discussing with the legal panel the verdict is in.w all about the postgame analysis. but also the question of whether or not the case is really over. the naacp, they say no. they're calling for federal civil rights charges. we've been discussing them. but you'll hear from the president of the group make the case for why they may be necessary next. you see the scho? oh, you're right. hey babe, i got to go. bye daddy! have a good day at school, ok? ...but what about when my parents visit? ok. i just love this one... and it's next to a park. i love it. i love it too. here's our new house... daddy! you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. >>> welcome back to this special edition of newsroom. it wasn't long after the not guilty verdict came in that the head of the naacp called no more action. they want the department of justice to file a civil rights lawsuit. >> and he spoke with our own candy crowley, the president of the naacp, on state of the union. i want to play you part of that intervie
. >> so we now know as we were just discussing with the legal panel the verdict is in.w all about the postgame analysis. but also the question of whether or not the case is really over. the naacp, they say no. they're calling for federal civil rights charges. we've been discussing them. but you'll hear from the president of the group make the case for why they may be necessary next. you see the scho? oh, you're right. hey babe, i got to go. bye daddy! have a good day at school, ok? ...but...
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aggravated assault but i want to mention that mantei is sort of this prosecutor who is clearly the legal nerd on the panel and most prosecutors have someone like that on their cases. you have a person who does a lot of the legal research, can argue the law, is very, very smart and can make these kinds of nuanced arguments. i've had those people on my case, i've been that person on cases and that's what he's there to do. he's there to sort of push the legal envelope and health insurance what he was doing this morning. >> by proposing this veritable smorgasbord of lesser included charges, how much do you it show they're worried they wront be able to convict on second degree murder? >> i think they are showing their hand. i think they know as well as all of us that second degree murder is a stretch. we've seen many instances by overcharging you end up helping the defense because you lose credibility. in the conrad murray case, the jackson family and many jackson fans wanted second degree murder. i did not. and i explained to family members and to fans. i said, look, if you do that you're going to help the de
aggravated assault but i want to mention that mantei is sort of this prosecutor who is clearly the legal nerd on the panel and most prosecutors have someone like that on their cases. you have a person who does a lot of the legal research, can argue the law, is very, very smart and can make these kinds of nuanced arguments. i've had those people on my case, i've been that person on cases and that's what he's there to do. he's there to sort of push the legal envelope and health insurance what he...
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the legal panel, former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin, legal analyst sunny hostin. on defense side, daenny cevallos and mark geragos. mark, you think today was a big win for the defense? >> well, clearly. i don't think there's anybody who can see it or objectively look at what happened today and not understand that this was about as good a day as the defense is going to have. it also was the police's way of paying back the prosecution. you know, he was not arrested. >> do you think that's true? >> i think this was police payback, their way to kind of stick it to the prosecution because if you remember originally, the state's attorney did throw the police under the bus on this case. and so the police i think today paid them back. >> jeff, do you think that's true. >> i do think it's possible. the answers were so enthusiastically pro-zimmerman. these cops could have answered these questions in a more neutral way but they really did seem to be going out of their way to say zimmerman was a great guy, that he was honest, that they tried all their tricks, that he didn't as
the legal panel, former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin, legal analyst sunny hostin. on defense side, daenny cevallos and mark geragos. mark, you think today was a big win for the defense? >> well, clearly. i don't think there's anybody who can see it or objectively look at what happened today and not understand that this was about as good a day as the defense is going to have. it also was the police's way of paying back the prosecution. you know, he was not arrested. >> do you...
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. >>> next, the legal panel weighs in and more of my interview with juror b-37. >> do you have any doubtorge zimmerman feared for his life? >> i have no doubt george feared for his life in the situation he was in at the time. morning because my back hurt so bad. the sleep number bed conforms to you. i wake up in the morning with no back pain. i can adjust it if i need to...if my back's a little more sore. and by the time i get up in the morning, i feel great! if you have back pain, toss and turn at night or wake up tired with no energy, the sleep number bed could be your solution. the sleep number bed's secret is it's air chambers which provide ideal support and put you in control of the firmness. and the bed is perfect for couples because each side adjusts independently to their unique sleep number. here's what clinical research has found: 93% of participants experienced back-pain relief 90% reported reduced aches and pains 87% fell asleep faster and enjoyed more deep sleep. for study summaries, call this number now. we'll include a free dvd and brochure about the sleep number bed inclu
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let's ask the legal panel, benjamin crump, mark car -- mark geragos, sunny hostin, jeffrey toobin. >> you observed this juror in the courtroom every single day, and apparently, you were pretty surprised as she was the holdout juror. why was that? >> i wasn't surprised necessarily she was the holdout juror, i was surprised she basically, wolf, said that her understanding of the law was that she had to determine that george zimmerman, when he left his home, intended to kill trayvon martin. that was shocking to me because all along during the state's case, she seemed to be listening so intently. she seemed to understand the arguments so well, and she in particular when listening to the jury instructions was so attentive. so i was very surprised that she seemed to have just a misunderstanding of the law. that really surprised me. >> i'm sure it surprised a lot of people. caroline, you're a jury consultant. let me play sound from this juror 29 talking about those specific jury instructions. listen to this. >> for myself, he's guilty because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of
let's ask the legal panel, benjamin crump, mark car -- mark geragos, sunny hostin, jeffrey toobin. >> you observed this juror in the courtroom every single day, and apparently, you were pretty surprised as she was the holdout juror. why was that? >> i wasn't surprised necessarily she was the holdout juror, i was surprised she basically, wolf, said that her understanding of the law was that she had to determine that george zimmerman, when he left his home, intended to kill trayvon...
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the answer. >> joining us, our legal panel. jim is a former prosecutor, when the prosecutor heard the question being posed by the defense. do you think -- wouldn't think have been the time the prosecutor jumps out of his seat and says objection before the witness even answers it? >> good trial lawyers have spring loaded pants, greta. and when something like that happens, you make as much noise as you can, so the witness can't get the answer out of his mouth. the impossibility of unringing that bell is unclear. especially when the judge said, i'm going to read it to you again. ignore that part, impossible. >> it's beyond me, the prosecution should have beaten the answer to begin with. the jury never should have heard it, but then spent the night thinking about, come the next day, and says, let's repeat it to the jury again. >> and the worst possible aspect of all of this, and it's all bad. is that not only did the jury have that to think about all night, they got to percolate on this experienced homicide det t detective, putting
the answer. >> joining us, our legal panel. jim is a former prosecutor, when the prosecutor heard the question being posed by the defense. do you think -- wouldn't think have been the time the prosecutor jumps out of his seat and says objection before the witness even answers it? >> good trial lawyers have spring loaded pants, greta. and when something like that happens, you make as much noise as you can, so the witness can't get the answer out of his mouth. the impossibility of...
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the medical examiner is still on the stand right now. our legal panel weighs in on what the relatives of trayvon martin had to say when we come back. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat mo dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions can help you do what you do... even better. ♪ and ou'll dump your old mop. but don't worry, he'll find someone else. ♪ who's that lady? ♪ who's that lady? ♪ sexy lady ♪ who's that lady? [ female announcer ] used mops can grow bactea. swiffer wetjet starts with a clean pad every time, and its antibacterial cleaner kills bacteria mops can spread around. swiffer gives cleaning a whole new meaning. ♪ lovely lady rick: a fox news alert as we continue to watch the developments in the courtroom of the george zimmerman murder t
the medical examiner is still on the stand right now. our legal panel weighs in on what the relatives of trayvon martin had to say when we come back. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat mo dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you...
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the body of trayvon martin. let's go back to our legal panel, let me begin with you. important from a prosecutor's standpoint, isn't it? >> listen, what they are doing is so transparent to me, the final witness is the primary goal is to invoke anger, sympathy, compassion, all those things the judge will tell the jury, said those aside and don't based on that emotion. gregg: it is probably working, let me read a note we received from one of our producers. one juror looks very sad when they first show the image of trayvon martin's body. the rest of the jury looking straight, somber, taking notes, looking up. that same juror that looks sad size when they show the naked body of trayvon martin. if mark is right, that was the intended effect, it is working, isn't it? >> undoubtedly part of it. have to show what the bone was. it is part of the element here. they had to bring somebody in to do this. and to show that was a homicide or not. certainly to show from his opinion and what he could see on the body is certainly was a homicide of some kind. >> one of the first issues th
the body of trayvon martin. let's go back to our legal panel, let me begin with you. important from a prosecutor's standpoint, isn't it? >> listen, what they are doing is so transparent to me, the final witness is the primary goal is to invoke anger, sympathy, compassion, all those things the judge will tell the jury, said those aside and don't based on that emotion. gregg: it is probably working, let me read a note we received from one of our producers. one juror looks very sad when they...
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throughout the newscast we'll bring you the highlights from the testimony and we'll ask the legal panel if the prosecution has done enough to prove its case and we'll look at the next steps in the emotionally charged trial. >> our other top story this morning, tensions are rising in egypt. deadly new protest threaten to divide the count row further. a live look at ca iro on the screen. they are protesting the ouster of president mohammed morsi and then on the right, images that turn ugly. earlier when the pro morsi forces clash for the new interim government and so much going on. connor powell streaming live to break it down, connor? >> the muslim brotherhood vowed to turn out to protest the removal of mohammed morsi. and the military deployed troops and equipment all over the city. clashes resulted and three people have been killed and many more injured. the military only use teargas and not used live fire. but there are numerous reports of the military opening fire and injuries western media and ejingzs that are protesting. in a surprise move, the head of the muslim brotherhood made a
throughout the newscast we'll bring you the highlights from the testimony and we'll ask the legal panel if the prosecution has done enough to prove its case and we'll look at the next steps in the emotionally charged trial. >> our other top story this morning, tensions are rising in egypt. deadly new protest threaten to divide the count row further. a live look at ca iro on the screen. they are protesting the ouster of president mohammed morsi and then on the right, images that turn ugly....
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including the high stakes legal maneuvering and the question of lesser charges and the decision which one of our panels lost his hat on. let's bring them all in. legal analyst and former prosecutor sunny hostin and jeffy toobin, danny savalos and mark geragos. he said he'd eat his hat if zimmerman took the stand. you do not have to eat your hat because he did not take the stand. i didn't see you putting any money on this, mark. are you as sure as you claim to be? >> i tried to put out there. i said 50-1 odds. i gave 100-1 odds. wouldn't take either of them. >> how significant, mark, do you think it was, the prosecution brought out the dummy to exhibit. they essentially seemed to change their story. they seemed to kind of acknowledge, okay, well, they came up with an alternate theory in case that the jury did in fact believe that trayvon martin was the one on top. that's not what they were arguing when they started this trial. >> no, in fact, mcdreamy, the prosecutor as my friend sunny calls him, was the one who argued beforehand that he was on top. now mcdreamy has got trayvon on top, and the problem w
including the high stakes legal maneuvering and the question of lesser charges and the decision which one of our panels lost his hat on. let's bring them all in. legal analyst and former prosecutor sunny hostin and jeffy toobin, danny savalos and mark geragos. he said he'd eat his hat if zimmerman took the stand. you do not have to eat your hat because he did not take the stand. i didn't see you putting any money on this, mark. are you as sure as you claim to be? >> i tried to put out...
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of course, the best legal panel around. we begin by catching you up by another big day in court. here's martin savidge. >> reporter: unlike his opening, the state's closing began with more reverent tones. almost like a eulogy. >> a teenager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own. he is dead because another man made assumptions. >> reporter: the prosecutor condensed the state's case into two hours, emphasizing its claim that george zimmerman actively profiled trayvon martin. >> he profiled him as a criminal. he assumed certain things. that trayvon martin was up to no good. and that is what led to his death. >> reporter: the state contends zimmerman is a wannabe cop and self-appointed neighborhood watch captain who had grown frustrated by a series of break-ins by criminals who always managed to get away. his narrative paused just once for a recess and interrupted at another point for an objection. the defense attorney mark o'hara said the state was wrongfully interpreting the law. the state often returned to its tactic of using zimmerman's own words against him. >> he does
of course, the best legal panel around. we begin by catching you up by another big day in court. here's martin savidge. >> reporter: unlike his opening, the state's closing began with more reverent tones. almost like a eulogy. >> a teenager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own. he is dead because another man made assumptions. >> reporter: the prosecutor condensed the state's case into two hours, emphasizing its claim that george zimmerman actively profiled trayvon...
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>> kelly: president asking questions about the stand-your-ground law. let's bring in legal panel kesha a former prosecutor. thanks for joining us. president basically stating this has to be examined. is he right in questioning the implementation of stand-your-ground law? >> i think he is. i think these laws need to be examined. i personally they think they should be this incident with mr. zimmerman, law like that, he would not have went in into that swaying. he would have thought, i do have a duty to retreat. i'm not going to go in. if he knew he could shoot and protect himself if something went bad. >> kelly: and he did not use stand your ground but self-defense. president comments on this, is he looking at the possible loopholes in this law? >> this is classic self-defense case. i'm not sure zimmerman went through analysis of your stand-your-ground laws. a lot of times we make overbroad approaches. many situations where you would say, yeah, you would like to stand your ground in that situation. your family gets attacks in a mall and protecting your wife and child, you can stand
>> kelly: president asking questions about the stand-your-ground law. let's bring in legal panel kesha a former prosecutor. thanks for joining us. president basically stating this has to be examined. is he right in questioning the implementation of stand-your-ground law? >> i think he is. i think these laws need to be examined. i personally they think they should be this incident with mr. zimmerman, law like that, he would not have went in into that swaying. he would have thought, i...
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aftermaths and said after just days of the confrontation with trayvon martin zimmerman appeared black eyed and emotionally traumatized. >> let's bring in our panel, legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, sunny hostin, and jeffrey toobin. do you think that mark o'mara scored the points that he wanted to? >> i think at first blush you'd say why would you ever do that? but if you think about it, i think what he was trying to do is set up the closing argument. he wants to argue later on, look, here's somebody who told the police initially that it wasn't him and now he's ekw
aftermaths and said after just days of the confrontation with trayvon martin zimmerman appeared black eyed and emotionally traumatized. >> let's bring in our panel, legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, sunny hostin, and jeffrey toobin. do you think that mark o'mara scored the points that he wanted to? >> i think at first blush you'd say why would you ever do that? but if you think about it, i think what he was trying to do is set up the closing argument. he wants to argue...
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that via tweet and via text and we are working on getting our martin savidge who is in the courtroom and my legal paneling me now is, martin knee jam who came back before the break and also joining us now is sunny hostin. so this is -- we said that there was anticipation building. you thought there would be a verdict now. this live pictures inside of the court. there you see george zimmerman in the courtroom now. they are convening in the courtroom and there you see his defense team joining him in the courtroom. again, there is a verdict in the george zimmerman trial. and obviously, there is some movement because we are seeing live pictures now from inside the court, and we are also seeing george zimmerman and others starting to gather in the courtroom in sanford is, florida. the six-woman jury working yesterday till about 6:00 in the evening, 6:30 in the evening eastern time and then going home and then coming back at 9:00 a.m. and then deliberating all day today through lunch and then through dinner and deliberating for almost 13 hours. 16 hours and 20 minutes total deliberation time. those are the l
that via tweet and via text and we are working on getting our martin savidge who is in the courtroom and my legal paneling me now is, martin knee jam who came back before the break and also joining us now is sunny hostin. so this is -- we said that there was anticipation building. you thought there would be a verdict now. this live pictures inside of the court. there you see george zimmerman in the courtroom now. they are convening in the courtroom and there you see his defense team joining him...
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the courtroom today. i want to get our legal panel's take. joining me is senior legal analyst jeffr toobin and sunny hostin. on the defense side, criminal defense attorneys danny au ser ral los and mark geragos author of "mistrial." i want to throw this question out to all four of you, do any of you believe that the prosecution ha a particularly good day today? does anybody believe that the prosecution is a step closer to proving their case? mark, go ahead. >> anderson, i have a theory about this. i think that was has happened here, this is -- and, jeff, i have no evidence of this, so i'll say that as a disclaimer, but i think when the police did not arrest him as mark o'mara elicited, they found him to be credible. they thought that they weren't going to file. i think that what has happened here, is that when the state's attorney filed this case, they feel like the police were thrown under the bus. and i think the police are now engaging in payback, and when those questions that o'meara asked to get those answers out of the officers, to me is
the courtroom today. i want to get our legal panel's take. joining me is senior legal analyst jeffr toobin and sunny hostin. on the defense side, criminal defense attorneys danny au ser ral los and mark geragos author of "mistrial." i want to throw this question out to all four of you, do any of you believe that the prosecution ha a particularly good day today? does anybody believe that the prosecution is a step closer to proving their case? mark, go ahead. >> anderson, i have a...
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the case. back with me once again is our panel of legal experts. ou what do you think the defense has to do in their closing argument, and what do you think the prosecution has to do in its rebuttal tomorrow. let me start with you, faith. >> the defense is going to say the state has not met their burden of proving this case beyond a reasonable doubt, or proving this was not self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt. on rebuttal the state is going to argue george zimmerman is a liar, you can't believe anything he says. this 17-year-old is dead. he needs to be held accountable. >> lisa? >> the defense needs to explain the inconsistencies and say any time somebody tells a story over and over, there are going to be inconsistencies. that's true with the prosecution witnesses. it's true with george zimmerman. he may be guilty of profiling, of making wrong assumptions, but he is not guilty of murder. for the prosecution, they need to put a theory out there that explains what happened. they could simply say that there were words exchanged, perhaps shoving. tra
the case. back with me once again is our panel of legal experts. ou what do you think the defense has to do in their closing argument, and what do you think the prosecution has to do in its rebuttal tomorrow. let me start with you, faith. >> the defense is going to say the state has not met their burden of proving this case beyond a reasonable doubt, or proving this was not self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt. on rebuttal the state is going to argue george zimmerman is a liar, you...
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we'll talk with one of the martin family attorneys and our legal panel. let's get you up to date. martin savidge begins our coverage. >> reporter: it's been the question dominate thing entire trial. would george zimmerman take the stand? and today judge nelson asked him directly. >> have you made a decision? >> yes, your honor. >> what is your decision, sir? >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> is it your decision not to testify in this case? >> yes, your honor. >> are you making that decision freely and voluntarily? >> yes, your honor. >> reporter: and with that, the defense rested. >> with all that in mind, the defense would rest. >> reporter: much of the day was spent on a witness saying zimmerman was nonconfrontational. but it was a dummy that proved to be one of the strongest witnesses of the day. it begin when the prosecutor grabbed a mannequin to show their version of events. >> do you recognize this as being a human-type figure, right? >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> reporter: it was here the state seemed to concede trayvon martin could have been on top
we'll talk with one of the martin family attorneys and our legal panel. let's get you up to date. martin savidge begins our coverage. >> reporter: it's been the question dominate thing entire trial. would george zimmerman take the stand? and today judge nelson asked him directly. >> have you made a decision? >> yes, your honor. >> what is your decision, sir? >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> is it your decision not to testify in...
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the bench. >> okay. let's bring back in our panel and i want to go to nbc legal analyst lisa bloom. you know, con rafting the jean tell testimony which we just talked about and the testimony today, the one thing lisa, that does seem to be consistent is this story of pursuit. the story that rachel jeantel said that essentially george zimmerman was sewering tray voen and the testimony today where he tried to explain he was walking back to his car but the detective saying where was he hiding? and serino pressing him on were you not going after this young man. how did that strike you? >> i want to make a quick comment about rachel jeantel. i've been watching the entire trial. i haven't seen a lot of the negative comments that people are referring to about her, thank goodness i guess. i can say she was dressed appropriately for kourth on both days if that's one of the negative comments about her, that's silly. in the context of a trial, asking tough questions, cross-examining a witness is what defense attorneys do. that's what they did with rachel jeantel, what they're doing with george z
the bench. >> okay. let's bring back in our panel and i want to go to nbc legal analyst lisa bloom. you know, con rafting the jean tell testimony which we just talked about and the testimony today, the one thing lisa, that does seem to be consistent is this story of pursuit. the story that rachel jeantel said that essentially george zimmerman was sewering tray voen and the testimony today where he tried to explain he was walking back to his car but the detective saying where was he...
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the state that that's not a weapon, that that can't hurt somebody, that that can't cause great bodily injury is disgusting. >> reporter: martin savidge, cnn sanford, florida. >> well let's bring in the panel legal analyst and former federal prosecutor sunny host tin and jeffrey toobin. how do you think mark o'mara did today? >> i think he did well and exactly what i expected, primarily a low-key methodical and talking as opposed to theater or drama to it but pretty much what i expected. i thought he did a nice use of the chart with the degrees showing what is not reasonable doubt, and what is reasonable doubt conversely. so i thought all and all it was effective and he hit the points he needed to hit. >> sunny, you were in the courtroom. how do you think he did? >> i think he did fine. i don't think it was great. i don't think he knocked it out of the park but i thought he was efficient. i thought he was effective. i thought it was good. some theater fell flat like the cartoon that we've been talking about. i expected more out of it. i don't think it was use that well. the slab of concrete. the jurors didn't stand up to look at it the way they looked at other things, but i did like his style in
the state that that's not a weapon, that that can't hurt somebody, that that can't cause great bodily injury is disgusting. >> reporter: martin savidge, cnn sanford, florida. >> well let's bring in the panel legal analyst and former federal prosecutor sunny host tin and jeffrey toobin. how do you think mark o'mara did today? >> i think he did well and exactly what i expected, primarily a low-key methodical and talking as opposed to theater or drama to it but pretty much what i...
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the documents or information. there will be three panels today. the first will focus on legalssues, the second on technical aspect, and the third on policy. after the first panel, we will be taking a lunch break. two board members will moderate each panel and pose questions. and board members may have all the questions. panelist are urged to keep the responses brief to submit the greatest possible exchange of views. at the end of the day there will be time for members in the audience to make statements about the two programs. this workshop is being recorded and transcript will be posted on what we hope will be the website accountive this evening. as well as on regulations.gov. those that wish to submit written comments about the issues are welcome to do so, and comments may be submitted at regulation.gov or by mail until august 1st. i want to start by level setting the discussion. my discrepancy on the programs is based on information publicly disclosed by the federal government. i should not be interpreted as saying anything new about the programs. it's merely a summary of un
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that's a task that we fwif to the jury for the jury to prove prosecution. now back to our legal panel had the advantage in that video of the light from our camera, so it's not an exact republ replica. how much could you see back or not see? >> greta, it was very hard to see at least two to three feet in front of you. as i was talking out there, we had to put mile in the place of an innocent kid, goes to the store to get some skittles, walking through a dark area and he sees a silhouette of a truck or someone following him. that had to put the kid in great fear of bodily farm himself. >> are you saying that trayvon mart hin that fear? did george zimmerman have that fear? i don't think -- poor trayvon martin and his family. but did george zimmerman have a reasonable fear of his life and danger? necessity or no? >> it also borders on who of the aggressor, and i would have to think if that dark -- as dark as it was back there, greta, i could hardly see you. camera man. partial back there. >> diana, when george zimmerman goes, trying to get an address when he heads back to the car, the ini
that's a task that we fwif to the jury for the jury to prove prosecution. now back to our legal panel had the advantage in that video of the light from our camera, so it's not an exact republ replica. how much could you see back or not see? >> greta, it was very hard to see at least two to three feet in front of you. as i was talking out there, we had to put mile in the place of an innocent kid, goes to the store to get some skittles, walking through a dark area and he sees a silhouette...
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the work. all right. i have a feeling our legal panel has some strong opinions about this one. ttorneys mo ivory and mark nejaime. mo, the bank is saying it made a mistake here. tell us what the legal responsibility is in a case like this. >> sure, if the bank admits that they made a mistake which they have, they used the gps, they went to the wrong home. they said that they realized it was the wrong home, even the president of the bank says i admit it was the wrong home. the legal responsibility is to put the person back in the position they were in before the mistake was made which would be to just give her what she is asking for. i don't think that you can say that the item, the list of items that she submitted doesn't line one the list of items that the people that went in and took the items says it does. these people were wrong for going in, in the first place. they're low level employees of the bank who are out there collecting people's items. i wouldn't put any weight on what they're saying as it relates to value. but let's say beyond the legal, you know, recourse that th
the work. all right. i have a feeling our legal panel has some strong opinions about this one. ttorneys mo ivory and mark nejaime. mo, the bank is saying it made a mistake here. tell us what the legal responsibility is in a case like this. >> sure, if the bank admits that they made a mistake which they have, they used the gps, they went to the wrong home. they said that they realized it was the wrong home, even the president of the bank says i admit it was the wrong home. the legal...
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because one is shot to death and the other one lies, why would that person lie? >> joining us, our legal panel in washington, bernie grim, jim hammer, and here in sanford, florida, ted wall yailliams, di tennis. hammering on the issue of liar, why is that such an important point for the prosecution? >> they have a really tough road to hoe, has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that self-defense does not apply. they need the jury to believe not just that this is a follower, profiler, they need to believe that george zimmerman's story is a complete lie. if they believe the essence of george zimmerman's story which i submit has been very consistent, they will believe injuries caused him to draw the gun. that's self-defense in a nutshell. they need to poke holes in the story. i don't think they went far enough today. they will have to really bring this together. we don't know what the prosecution theory is. >> we'll get it into a little later. i was surprised the prosecution in closing argument, i thought they threw in the towel on murder two, and they really pushed manslaughter. that's why the d
because one is shot to death and the other one lies, why would that person lie? >> joining us, our legal panel in washington, bernie grim, jim hammer, and here in sanford, florida, ted wall yailliams, di tennis. hammering on the issue of liar, why is that such an important point for the prosecution? >> they have a really tough road to hoe, has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that self-defense does not apply. they need the jury to believe not just that this is a follower,...
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the case? our legal panel's going to weigh in on what that jury might be stewing over right after this break. [ jackie ] it's just so frustrating... ♪ the middle of this special moment and i need to run off to the bathroom. ♪ i'm fed up with always having to put my bladder's needs ahead of my daughter. ♪ so today, i'm finally talking to my doctor about overactive bladder symptoms. [ female announcer ] know that gotta go feeling? ask your doctor about prescription toviaz. one toviaz pill a day significantly reduces sudden urges and accidents, for 24 hours. if you have certain stomach problems or glaucoma, or can not empty your bladder, you should not take toviaz. get emergency medical help right away if your face, lips, throat or tongue swells. toviaz can cause blurred vision, dizziness, drowsiness and decreased sweating. do not drive, operate machinery or do unsafe tasks until you know how toviaz affects you. the most common side effects are dry mouth and constipation. talk to your doctor about toviaz. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insuranc
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the courtroom briskly. people could feel they were disappointed. >> thanks for your time. i want to turn to our legal panela join us. i want to talk about the legal options now that george zimmerman was found not guilty. people keep talking about a civil suit. >> yes, that's probably where it will end up. i think the family has a great opportunity to go after the zimmerman family, maybe even the compound for eliciting or allowing zimmerman to be a watchman. these are options that exist. they could say allowing zimmerman who was overzealous, he had a gun, in terms of being a watchman. it's a completely different standard and a high likelihood someone will get sued here. >> lisa, if there is a civil suit, the question, of course -- or actually, the fact would be, george zimmerman would have to provide testimony. how would that play out? >> his attorney last night was adamant and spoke of immunity, which i was curious about and wanted to hear more about what mr. o'mara means by that. obviously a guilty verdict -- i'm sorry, acquittal allows him to be a viable target for civil suit. we'll have to see. what we
the courtroom briskly. people could feel they were disappointed. >> thanks for your time. i want to turn to our legal panela join us. i want to talk about the legal options now that george zimmerman was found not guilty. people keep talking about a civil suit. >> yes, that's probably where it will end up. i think the family has a great opportunity to go after the zimmerman family, maybe even the compound for eliciting or allowing zimmerman to be a watchman. these are options that...
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the state that that's not a weapon, that that can't hurt somebody, that that can't cause great bodily injury is disgusting. >> reporter: martin savidge, cnn sanford, florida. >> well let's bring in the panel legal analyst and former federal prosecutor sunny host tin and jeffrey toobin. how do you think mark o'mara did today? >> i think he did well and exactly what i expected, primarily a low-key methodical and talking as opposed to theater or drama to it but pretty much what i expected. i thought he did a nice use of the chart with the degrees showing what is not reasonable doubt, and what is reasonable doubt conversely. so i thought all and all it was effective and he hit the points he needed to hit. >> sunny, you were in the courtroom. how do you think he did? >> i think he did fine. i don't think it was great. i don't think he knocked it out of the park but i thought he was efficient. i thought he was effective. i thought it was good. some theater fell flat like the cartoon that we've been talking about. i expected more out of it. i donl't think it was use that well. the slab of concrete. the jurors didn't stand up to look at it the way they looked at other things, but i did like his style i
the state that that's not a weapon, that that can't hurt somebody, that that can't cause great bodily injury is disgusting. >> reporter: martin savidge, cnn sanford, florida. >> well let's bring in the panel legal analyst and former federal prosecutor sunny host tin and jeffrey toobin. how do you think mark o'mara did today? >> i think he did well and exactly what i expected, primarily a low-key methodical and talking as opposed to theater or drama to it but pretty much what i...
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the process. >> i think today they thought about it. diana, stay with us. george zimmerman is a freeman. his legal whoas are not over. the estate will not work. joining us, our legal panele diana tennis in orlando. ted, civil trial, is the state going to sue him? >> hi, greta. let me give you a ted which had yams jury brought by the 16th. zwr let me stop you there for a second. if you're so certain of that tonight, why is attorney general eric holder, although we're here that they found a side that's not racially motivated. >> okay. the bottom line is i've done a lot of these 1983 cases. i have dealt with the fbi in these cases and i can honestly say the state is in an up heave val. i think they're trying to -- they're bury it in your gonzales. they're trying to let things cool off. >> bernie, civil rights case, no civil rights case? >> obviously anybody can so many. >> you're losing to me, too. go ahead. >> the difficulty is if you get to trial and ted does a lot of those. there's no many there. to get to beach rib, i've poured my heart and soul into it. when you get done and lose, you con 2k3wr59 two late the other party. why? because you have nother plant rerieg on y
the process. >> i think today they thought about it. diana, stay with us. george zimmerman is a freeman. his legal whoas are not over. the estate will not work. joining us, our legal panele diana tennis in orlando. ted, civil trial, is the state going to sue him? >> hi, greta. let me give you a ted which had yams jury brought by the 16th. zwr let me stop you there for a second. if you're so certain of that tonight, why is attorney general eric holder, although we're here that they...