excuse me, the light greenline is all white men, the darker green is white men with no high school the diploma. you can see education have an impact on these numbers. you can see the younger ages, the higher the incarceration rate, and the older it becomes lower. fred patrick, can you talk about that a little bit? age, economic opportunity, and race. guest: sure. as i mentioned in terms of looking at incarceration across racial groups, what you will find is incarceration plays out in minority neighborhoods, and socially and economically disadvantaged neighborhoods. in many states, those areas where you see a high percentage of poor social economic indicators, though seem to be the drivers of the state prison populations. whether you are talking about a place like south bronx in new york city, west park in chicago or they ferguson area in missouri. there is certainly an overlap in that regard. often what you find, too is the lack of education leads to individuals not having opportunity, and certainly when individuals are incarcerated, not only do they now have the difficulty of sort of

excuse me, the light greenline is all white men, the darker green is white men with no high school theiploma. you can see education have an impact on these numbers. you can see the younger ages, the higher the incarceration rate, and the older it becomes lower. fred patrick, can you talk about that a little bit? age, economic opportunity, and race. guest: sure. as i mentioned in terms of looking at incarceration across racial groups, what you will find is incarceration plays out in minority neighborhoods, and socially and economically disadvantaged neighborhoods. in many states, those areas where you see a high percentage of poor social economic indicators, though seem to be the drivers of the state prison populations. whether you are talking about a place like south bronx in new york city, west park in chicago or they ferguson area in missouri. there is certainly an overlap in that regard. often what you find, too is the lack of education leads to individuals not having opportunity, and certainly when individuals are incarcerated, not only do they now have the difficulty of sort of ma