among the things he saw or observations of the moon. hese were engravings based on gallegos's original drawings that he made after he looked at the telescope for the first time. he did this in 1609 commesso next year and 2009 we will be celebrating an anniversary of the publication or observations of giglio and use of the telescope for astronomical purposes. galileo was and of course the only one to look at the marin. he may have been the first one to use a telescope but the book on this side of the table is from the 19th century, when telescopes' had improved a lot, and there were two scientists in england who published this book on the moon, based on their observations with the telescope. but although they could photograph the moon, they couldn't take a detailed observations with their telescope and photography, so they made a model based on their observations with the telescope and then made photographs of those observations. so this is the fault of copernicus named after the author we start with with very detailed observations that l

last time we went to the moon. this time our technological genius an entrepreneurial zeal returned to the task of saving the planet. guest: we have the same source of energy as we did have and the apollo project, the american spirit of innovation, entrepreneurship, a can-do spirit. although we are in a recession and difficult economic times, we ought to have confidence in ourselves that we can't innovate to really be the arsenal of clean energy for the world. what i see this as an enormous economic opportunity because we know the world will be demanding this clean energy technology sources. so when i think of this bill, i think of the people will have -- who will have new, clean energy careers, doing concentrated solar energy. the people at clipper win the company in iowa who will be building and installing wind turbines and people out of a company in washington showing companies out to save energy on computer networks. so when i think of this, i see this as an economic opportunity that we need to seize. and i liste

now, whether we'll ever go to the moon, i think we'll just give the moon a miss and go straight to mars. thank you. [laughter] >> we are almost out of time but before asking the last question we have some important matters to take care of. first of all, let me remind our members of future speakers. tomorrow john roe, chairman and ceo of exxon will discussion national energy policy in a time of economic uncertain. on may 21, ray lahood will discuss his eighth's involvement in president obama's $787 billion economic stimulus package aimed at turning around the u.s. economy. on may 28 mary tyler moore, actress and international chairman for the juvenile diabetes research foundation, will discuss research and finding a cure for diabetes. second, i would like to present mr. branson with the traditional npc mug. >> thank you very much. >> okay. for our last question, let's see, so someone is asking in this time of economic uncertainty, what do you look for in individuals to hire. [laughter] >> stay away from from business people. i think the key to, if we are taking on managers at virgin, wha

we can use the same innovation that let us put a man on the moon. let's choose the path of innovation, the path that led to american success throughout history. now is the time to take bold action on our energy policy. i yield back to my friend from colorado. mr. polis: i've heard supporters of this republican inaction task trying to argue this bill costs jobs, that somehow it's bad for the economy. a lot of what you're talking about a solar plant hiring $1,400 people in our district, job growth on the infrastructure side, it sounds to me like by passing this bill it's going to lead to more job growth in your district. is that what you're finding? mr. heinrich: i believe that's the case. what we've seen is that in the midst of this recession, the good nunes our horizon has been the quality high tech jobs in the renewable energy sector. mr. polis: earlier on, as we were walking the floor, we were talking about american ingenuity and innovation and what's possible with solar cars, i thought you could share with us the story of what's possible. the stre

now, whether we'll ever go to the moon, i think we'll just give the moon a miss and go straight to mars. thank you. [laughter] >> okay. we are almost out of time but before asking the last question, we have a couple of important matters to take care of. first of all, let me remind our members of future speakers. tomorrow john w. roe, chairman and ceo of exelon corporation, will discuss national energy policy in a time of economic uncertainty. on may 21st, ray lahood, the u.s. transportation secretary, will discuss his agency's involvement in president obama's $787 billion economic stimulus package aimed at turning around the u.s. economy, and on may 28th mary tyler moore, actress and international chairman of the juvenile diabetes research foundation, will discuss research and finding a cure for diabetes. second, i would like to present mr. branson with the traditional npc mug.

because we believe americans still have the right stuff that we had in the 1960's when we went to the moon. and this bill calls forward americans' future to get off of foreign oil, to put millions of people to work in clean technology and to give our grandkids a chance at a future with a dent atmosphere like we grew up with. the people who are against this bill, i urge them to avoid the pessimism and the lack of imagination that i've heard on the floor of this. now, will this have some investment costs? yes. and what is the best assessment of that cost? it is the congressional budget office, a nonpartisan group that republicans typically rely upon. what have they said? they said this will cost a typical family of four 47 cents, the cost a little more than a stamp. will we pay the cost of a stamp to get rid of five million barrels of oil a day from the mideast? you bet we will, and this bill will do it. will we pay a stamp to give our grandkids a future of an environment that will not destroy their health? you bet we will. will we pay a stamp to give people at the bright source company a ch

h p ℠ this country to put a man on the moon before the end of the 1960's he knew that his bold aggressiveromise required a new culture, a new mindset and ultimately a new administration of nasa to become a reality. this kind of example is something that i think we had should be mindful of today. don't misunderstood me. i have complete confidence in the united states department of transportation and secretary lahood, his colleagues at the federal railroad administration have -- a team including the administration. we have not had a chance to work together. and with karen ray, we had a pleasure of being with her in houston at one of the outreach sessions. they're fully capable of developing the system throughout the nation. in order for america's in the broadest sense of the term moon shot to become a reality we, all of us here, and congress must work in concert with the same bold initiative. we must recognize that the clear view of this administration and congress combined with the mounting public and private sector groups such as the texas high-speed rail and transportation corporation, t

i am religious but i am religious because i believe in the sun and rain and the moon and the process of nature, and history, because most of the histories of history doesn't have -- don't have -- they don't have a end. they have a bright and happy end. we are destroyed or betrayed, but history has no end. when history says, goodbye, history is saying, see you later. >> host: so, what is -- much about 100 pages is devoted to the 20th century. the revolutionary 20th 20th century, that's our century main limp you talk a lot about the latin american -- a good deal about the latin american revolutionaries. you speak highly of -- i made a list -- lenin, not stalin. zappatta, fidel castro. >> guest: the only one who invaded the united states. in 18 126789 but in british -- in less than three days. he was drunk and and -- that's y it's good at wars and good at defense. >> host: and the others, sandio, salvador allende. these are the -- i don't know if i left anybody out but these are the great revolutionaries you write about in at least several places in "mirrors." >> guest: the main one was

geological survey in the '70s as being the closest thing to the moon. >> of the army almost perish because it is so sparse. >> the water table 100 feet below the ground so each province has its own set of problems and there is one long-simmering ethnic rebellion this is where they all came and settled bank karachi and a sort of took over the dominance. there have been all of these revolutions and now have their own sets of ethnic dimensions and dynamics and the northwest frontier province is perhaps the most fascinating of all. >> host: the wonderful world not only of the taliban but cultures that are still vestiges of the day of alexander the great. we will be talking about that. if you had to summarize pakistan today for the american people, one or two sentences, what would you say to them? >> guest: i would say there it is far more at stake in pakistan than any other country in the world. because of the tradition that i said earlier all of these people on the streets there is much more to lose and from a strategic standpoint pakistan is arguably, and arguably the most important. that is

about that and use it primarily invoice count because he was a scoutmaster for years to life is the moon of heat. my older brother came along and he wanted to be able to use the name to so he is a little heat-moon. i came along six years later and i am least heat-moon and i asked what if there was a third child with a b. and he said at least little heat-moon. [laughter] you have been a fine audience. thanks very much, i guess we're going to be over here. [applause] >> william least heat-moon books included "blue highways", "river-horse", and "columbus in the americas". his articles have been in time, esquire, national geographic and other magazines. the seattle public library host of this event. for more information about the library and future events visit the sp alan.org. this summer booktv is asking what are you reading? >> i'm carl:, the co-owner of politics and prose bookstore in washington d.c.. then and got into the business because i love to read more than anything. you can see i don't do too much exercise come instead that lie on my sofa and read instead. so i want to tell you a

he checked my eyes for sanity in the said are you the moon guy? i want to do something, partly because we have the visual audience with us, numbered in the millions. but i thought i would give some kind of the visual aid. i wish i were like mr. rogers, and we could do an experiment to appear but i don't have that capacity. but i can do this because i am often asked this question. the question is this. when i'm on the road in my writing the book then? yes, it depends of course would you call writing. i tried to convince my family, and he will meet one of them tonight for a few minutes. she is sitting over here. she is a character in this book, quite a character. i tried to convince them that i can be taking a nap and work the same time. i have to be honest it does not often work that way but there have been times in which i have been taking a nap and babil little bit of a dream or a relaxation and a different part of the jury-mad brain starts working and i get a good idea. so, that it's happened twice that means it can happen again so naps count, yo

the idea was to help us get to the moon. that was the public statement about why they did it. we didn't think it was a good idea for the simple reason that our country is very unusual. this society is separate from the government. sovereignty is located outside the government. that never really happened before. they take huge pride in the federalist papers in the idea that is the first purely representative form of government ever started. that means that places that trained leadership of the country had always been outside the government. there was a hesitation on our part about that. we did not take any direct money for a long time. in the 1960's there was a debate at the college about it in the members of our board. richman said you are going to go bankrupt if you do not take it. i recommend on the basis of a task force report that we have to start taking this money. the vote was 16-2 against it. this was in 1966 or 1967. i have the minutes. there was a prayer for the college after they voted that day. there is always that. in the 1970's we reached a decision that the aid t

this bill has the ambition of the moon landing, the moral imperative of the civil rights act and the scope of the clean air act all wrapped up in one. all we're hearing here this evening are the same discredited policies from the past that have got us into this economic national security and environmental situation that we live with today. vote no on this substitute and vote aye for the bill that we're considering. the gentleman from california has done an excellent job in bringing us to this point. vote no on this substitute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from virginia. mr. forbes: madam speaker, i'd like to yield one minute to the gentleman from south carolina, mr. inglis. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from south carolina is recognized for one minute. mr. inglis: i thank the gentleman for yielding. this is not the time for a tax increase. it's not the time for another wall street trading scheme and it's not the time to burden american manufacturing. it is the time to inspire innovation through amendments like mr. forbes' and to co

geological survey in the 1970's as the closest thing to the moon. >> host: where alexander the great almost perished it's so sparse. >> guest: the water table is 100 feet below the ground. so the problems are also each province has its own set of problems and baluchistan there is a long simmering ethnic and this is where all of these hopper is to come from india and 47 they settled in the cities of karachi and in the what and took over the dominance of there has been simoni revolutions and all of these provinces have their own set a few will of ethnic dimensions, ethnic dynamics and the northwest frontier province which we will get into in the next was perhaps the most fascinating of all. >> host: certainly is, the wonderful world of modeling the taliban but the cultures of the days of alexander the great and i'm looking forward to talking about that. if you had to summarize pakistan today for the american people one or two sentences and this is a challenge, would you say to them? >>

i said "blue highways" i think he checked my eyes were sanity and he said are you the moon by? [laughter] i want to do something tonight partly because we have a visual audience with us, your number in the millions i will not intimidate and ask any questions but i thought i needed some kind of a visual aid like mr. rogers but i do not have the capacity. one of the many i am lacking but i can do this because i'm often asked the question, i am on the road and my writing the book ben? it depends what you call right thing. i tried to convince my family and he will meet one of them tonight, she is sitting over here and a character in the book, quite a character, i tried to convince them i cannot be taking a nap and work at the same time. have to me honest it does not often work that way but there have been times in which i have been taking a nap and i have a little dream or relaxation and the different part of the brain starts working and i get a good idea. if that has happened twice that means it can happen again. so that means a nablus working writing is i start with a pencil and p

and he's said that himself and his own life, there were certain tibetan squirrels that represent the moon and the sun for example and he says well we know that's not the case. i have no time for those tonga's now and i think the other particular part of his example for many people and maybe including me is that he has never been a wise man sitting on a mountaintop dispensing the golden rule one for precepts for life. he's really in his entire life has been spent in a burning house and as i was saying he was the leader of the people at the age of four come at the age of seven he goes receding and voice from fdr with fairly substantial requests from the transportation of u.s. supplies across tibet in world war ii at age of 11 he was surrounded by a civil war in lhasa and in the age of 15 when most are thinking about our first prom or first date he was made for political leader and up against the leaders of the world's largest nation. and i think it's that in part that has intensified the national debate national pragmatism which means that in my experience it deals with obstructions or wish

a nice shot of the moon. here is george sherrill who has been about as automatic as you can get going all the way back to early may. >> jim p.: they said you can't, he's given up one run in seven hits over his last 19 appearances. it was kind of when dave trembley because he was struggling against right-handed batters. lefties are 3 for 33, that's .091, that's never been a problem. but he change his windup. now all he has to do is lift up his leg, bring the arm up a little bit, better command. the one thing, rob, you don't get to see him as much as i do, but he's starting to throw some change-ups, so he's been around everything, cut fastball, curveball, now all of a sudden an occasional change-up. >> rob: so he's repeating delivery and he's more consistent. >> jim p.: i think the velocity has gone from around 88, in spring training, the ball not coming out of his hand. and dave trembley said we may have to go to somebody else. >> rob: that will change new a hurry. >> jim p.: it's just trying to encourage him.

right or wrong, are all-stars on shoulders, and a four star comes in and tells a guy, you know, the moon is made of cheese, and is a no, it isn't. no, he said it is it is. this program is going to come on budget and so forth, and you guys are wrong about this. get off the back and they go ahead and sanctioning. you know, but lack of guts. yeah, but it starts with believing and wanting to believe what is a true. >> they are already predisposed to believe whatever some general is saying that will increase the budget. if he was saying something that criticized the budget they would be more inclined to disbelieve the. >> only once, shame on once. fool me twice, shame on me. time and time again these things happen. the promises are made at an early decision in the acquisition process about cost, schedule and performance, it's palpable and often identified below any. they go ahead with the program and the problem is that that occurs time and time and time again. it's not just the question of generals or other advocates folding these executives. it's that, you know, the alternative to there bei

how many young people were watching the first step on the moon. how many people chose to be scientists and engineers to go along that path. our community colleges that are there as the campus of choice in so many communities where they can train and retrain a work force to become those stewards of the environment that will help us in this agenda to be most energy efficient and to grow r&d opportunities in the lab. this is a tremendous opportunity to lift up from an economic crisis that has hampered a lot of progress for this country and has denied competitiveness for our manufacturing base. mr. heinrich: this is our generation's apollo project. and we intend to meet it, not cede that leadership to someone else. when you discuss these issues, independence, ingenuity, entrepreneurship, conservation, those are things our nation has been built upon. and we can't turn our back on them now. mr. polis: what started this whole discussion is the cost ofing action and we are talking about the benefits of action. we have made that case, whether it is 750 a ye

also this morning in "the washington times" the have an exclusive interview with ban ki moon. the un secretary general said on sunday he is making a personal effort to try to free the u.s. journalist imprisoned in north korea. illinois is next. your thoughts on the optimism of the white house on the economy? caller: you have afghanistan, iraq, we have health care issues. we have so much on the plate of the obama administration. one of my fears from the campaign is that people would want a quick fix. things were so dire for the last eight years. people's expectations were enormously high in the one a quick fix. we in america have gotten used to having things fixed in a hurry. information at our hands so quickly, so we want quick answers, and unfortunately the economic problems are so deep. host: you are breaking up a little so i will move on to the independent line in ohio. caller: yes, and not very optimistic about the economy. with this stimulus package that the democrats pretty much forced down our throat and did not allow anyone to read before they passed it >> we will leave

in the end, you know, i moon, potentially -- i mean, potentially the countries that are going to be important are india and china. and their trade relationship certainly is growing very rapidly. you know, india's trade with china was almost negligible. today merchandise trade if you look at it if i'm not mistaken, china has become india's largest trading partner, so trade side india and china their relationship has grown enormously rapidly, i think more rapidly than any other trade relationship of india with another country. so that's roughly where -- >> if i might just add to that, though, i think india's relationship with china, trade relationship with china is an interesting and complex one because at the same time that it is rapidly growing, it's filed more trade actions, many trade actions against china because going back to what i said earlier, well, india seeks to compete with developed nations in the manufactured good area, it sees china as a big threat, and india like so many countries who are negotiating in the round and really the backdrop to the wto/doha round is the fear that so

the press is devoted entirely to nonfiction. history, politics, biography, current events in economics and science it is much less general and focused. what do have coming out this fall? >> and this one called half moon the henry hudson and the 400th anniversary of his discovery of the river that bears his name of new york harbor that was an adventure that really changed the course of history in north america that had a very daring voyage the first being he was supposed to go completely in the other direction he was commissioned to sale to china over the northern coast of russia and took a left turn and came to america instead which led him to his discoveries here and exploration of the river. the author is a terrific writer and researcher and also a sailor who he -- so he has done his own navigation and has redrawn the map of his voyage to give us a new insights into what that trip was really about. >> george gibson publisher of walker books it is celebrating its 50th anniversary what is walker books and was the founder? >> walker and company is a division of bloomsbury usa founded 1959 by santa and beth walker a completely independent company until january 1, 2005 when we were acquired by now a div

the general audience in general interest. >> what you have coming out that you are excited about? >> one book is this one called half moon. ry hudson, the september is the 400th anniversary of hudson's discovery of the river that bears his name and his exploration of new york harbor and that was an adventure that really changed the course of history in north america. it was a very daring forge for a lot of reasons. the first one being that he was supposed to go completely in the other direction and commission sale to china over the northern coast of russia and he sort of took a left turn and came to north america and send which led him to his discoveries. his exploration of the river. the author dove hunter is a terrific writer and researcher and also a sailor so he has done his own forensic navigation and redrawn the map that plot hudson's voyage to give us new insights into what that trip was really about. >> finally we are joined by george tipson, publisher and director of walker books. celebrating its 50th anniversary. what is walker books and who is the founder? >> walker and company is a division of bloomsbury usa fo

moon. you couldn't tell. thelouds have been out here forever. >> jim: he squares again and pushes it in the air and it's caught by the first baseman. jorge cantu. so, not a very good effort there by robert andino as he was trying to push that ball towards the hole at first base and he is out and wieters has to hold at first base. we invite you to join us tomorrow. more o's action. the finale of the three-game series iveltion our coverage on masn begins at 6:30 with "o's xtra" presented by at&t and game coverage at 7:00. we have all the access you need right here on masn. >> buck: there's rich hill charting for this game tonight and oftentimes pitchers kind of enjoy charting. some will choose to chart off the television. gives you a better idea of the pitches exactly. mark wiley the pitching coach out to talk to nolasco again. oscar salazar who has -- who has been announced into this game with the game-tying base hit with two outs in the bottom of the ninth last night. time and time again, he's gotten big hits. he

[applause] >> william least heat-moon's books includes "blue highways," "river horse" and "columbus in the americas." is articles have appeared in time, as choir, national geographic and other magazines. the seattle public library hosted this event. for more information about the library and future events visit spl.org. >> this summer booktv is asking, what are you reading? >> bob schieffer, whether you reading this summer? >> well, i just finished a book called big rich which is about the great oil fortunes that were made in taxes and it is by a writer named brian burrough, a writer for "vanity fair." is an absolutely terrific book. the best book i have read this summer and one of the best books i have read in i don't know when is a book called the held by katheryn stockish. and, it is the story of two black made and a young white woman, who lived in jackson mississippi in 1963. and it tells you more about the relations between blacks and whites come with what was going on in the south, the year that james meredith was enrolled at the university of mississippi, the first big story that i

then after an off day off monday, we'll see the seattle mariners again, three straight day all on masn hd, all starting at 7:00 7:00 p.m.. >> gary: ♪ there is a moonbeautiful moon. ground ball towards short. andino again, there is one and there is two. andino playing a spectacular shortstop in this game has made two great plays that have resultd in double plays. does it again here. diving, gets the flip and look how much time they had at first. hey. don't move. for the next minute, i'm gonna show you what it's like to have verizon fios. these are your widgets, they let you put whatever you're watching down here, while you check out local traffic, weather, even your news up there. i've got a news flash you're out of mayo. how did you get in here? door was open. you'd have tons of ways for you to search content: by actor, director, any word at all. what about chicken? chicken's fine. any word. no i mean do you have any chicken? i want to eat some chicken. and one of the coolest things you can do with fios... ...is stream your music and your photos from your computer to your tv. slideshows look and sound better than ever. and now is the best time to