democrats and maybe even a f repubcans-- not very many, you're talking about two or thr at the mosts uck grassley, mike enzire never going to vote fo this bill. but olympia sno, as i said earlie, mig. so i he changes perceptionsut there-- and i don'know that he did, i susct he did-- at's very important, charlie th makes the insid game easier and i uld just go and jump in on this. i had just read about mecare. i wasn't around th, joe. t in reading about that medicare debate, whichis fascinatin that wasn't as easy... lyndon was a a magician but wilbu millswent through all kinds machinions. it took months a monthsand months of changes. that wasn't a simple, easy process. >> no, it wasn't. fairness remember joson real playedills. but think about it. in 1964, in those days social security increases were not automatic. the congress voted them every year just... every two years just before they wen home. johnson got the medare bill attaed to the social security incrse that passed the senate, wilb mills had the social securityncrease in the house he wouldn take it. johnsonliterally killed the social secu

democrats and maybe even a f repubcans-- not very many, you're talking about two or thr at the mosts uck grassley, mike enzire never going to vote fo this bill. but olympia sno, as i said earlie, mig. so i he changes perceptionsut there-- and i don'know that he did, i susct he did-- at's very important, charlie th makes the insid game easier and i uld just go and jump in on this. i had just read about mecare. i wasn't around th, joe. t in reading about that medicare debate, whichis fascinatin that wasn't as easy... lyndon was a a magician but wilbu millswent through all kinds machinions. it took months a monthsand months of changes. that wasn't a simple, easy process. >> no, it wasn't. fairness remember joson real playedills. but think about it. in 1964, in those days social security increases were not automatic. the congress voted them every year just... every two years just before they wen home. johnson got the medare bill attaed to the social security incrse that passed the senate, wilb mills had the social securityncrease in the house he wouldn take it. johnsonliterally killed the social secu