in the n.h.s., there's no insurance premium no co-pay, no fee at all. the system covers everybody. you know, when we lived here my family got really good care from the n.h.s., though we often had to wait to see a doctor. and yet the newspapers here are full of n.h.s. horror stories, rationing, waiting lists, terrible mistakes. so i've come to london to see this n.h.s. is it an answer for the u.s. or some horrible, socialist nanny state. >> japanese care is excellent. >> french? >> french care is terrific. >> any place you went that you're a little skittish about, you'd put them lower on the list than the others? >> none of the rich countries, i think they're all fine. india, i don't think i'd want to be treated in india if i could avoid it. there's nothing wrong with it, but i'm not sure their sanitary standards are as high, i don't want to demean india, i got good care in india myself. i'm american, i'd go to an american doctor. i'd get great care. and i have decent insurance that would pay for it. the problem is tens of millions of our fellow citizens don't have that kind of acce