a couple of weeks ago the n.r.a. started running an ad that created a great deal of controversy mr la pierre do you regret putting up that ad the point of that ad was this one taken on the president's kids the president if you'd mentions the president's kids are safe and we're all thankful for it the point of their face the threat that most children do not face and tell that the people in newtown tell that the people who really think that the president's children are the same kind of target as every school child in america i think that's ridiculous and you know it's i'm you know it was later went on to make the point that armed security guards in the schools would prevent children from being caught killed at places like shopping malls or movie theaters and so on so kudos to chris wallace maybe he's starting to get it the n.r.a. is an organization to be feared it's an organization to be mocked the bad texas governor rick perry speaking to reporters on saturday perry defended the boy scouts of america's current policy d

gun is even in the legislation the n.r.a. is against it and the n.r.a. hopes that it can keep up its heavyweight image here in washington d.c. and intimidate lawmakers into opposing any new gun control laws but the new reality is the n.r.a. isn't a heavyweight just look at how successful the n.r.a. was in the last election of all the millions of dollars the n.r.a. invested in politicians last november only point eight percent of it less than one percent went to winning candidates that's not actually exactly a winning percentage that should be feared in fact a new poll from public policy polling shows that an endorsement from the n.r.a. may be a kiss of death the survey asked voters across the nation whether an endorsement from the n.a.r. and n.r.a. would make them more likely to support a candidate or less likely twenty six percent of voters said an n.r.a. endorsement makes them more likely to support of canada but a whopping thirty nine percent compared to that twenty six thirty nine percent said it would make them less likely to support a candidate and

the belief the n.r.a. is the second amendment has to give american citizens the firepower to fight back against you against our government that's now so how do you conduct your business in enforcing the law and not knowing what is behind that door i find it to be it it's scary create a. simply it's just not based on logic but logic and the n.r.a. never got along so this is the n.r.a. his latest strategy defeat all gun control measures by scaring the hell out of america as might have been tonio attorney and host of ring of fire radio mike welcome back. i'm great is wayne la pierre a raving lunatic or is this guy crazy like a fox not at all this is been focused to death look the fear in america is a powerful moving force tom visions of smaller even massive apocalyptic events help listeners become irrational it makes them stupid to the point that it becomes easy and maybe even justified to even for reason we educated americans to stand behind the senseless slaughter of our children in schools because that's th

the n.r.a. school shield program fully implemented schoolchildren will walk on to campus past rows of armed security guards at first the big men in body armor with powerful something automatic assault rifles might be a little frightening to kindergartners first and second graders but eventually the kids are going to get used to these bushmaster toting sentinels understanding that this posse of guards is the first line of defense keeping them safe while they learn their a.b.c.'s case arizona sheriff joe arpaio is armed posse because a few members actually have criminal backgrounds to be extra keen into their insight into how the criminal mind works and how to stop potential mass shooters inside the school faculty with locks on their belts rushed kids along to first period before the morning bell rings first graders don't want to be late to first period as the new law requires them to take the country in classes. school begins in their teacher also armed with a gun as our custom made any shooters a

is against it and the n.r.a. hopes that it can keep up its heavyweight image here in washington d.c. and intimidate lawmakers into opposing any new gun control laws but the new reality is the n.r.a. isn't a heavyweight just look at how successful the n.r.a. was in the last election of all the millions of dollars the n.r.a. invested in politicians last november only point eight percent of it less than one percent went to winning candidates that's not actually exactly a winning percentage that should be feared in fact a new poll from public policy polling shows that an endorsement from the n.r.a. may be a kiss of death the survey asked voters across the nation whether an endorsement from the n.a.r. n.r.a. would make them more likely to support a candidate or less likely. twenty six percent of voters said an n.r.a. endorsement makes them more likely to support of canada but a whopping thirty nine percent compared to that twenty six thirty nine percent said it would make them less likely to support a candidate and am

but in terms of their public posture, the n.r.a. has take an hard line -- in fact, there was a commercial run during the super bowl highlighting the change in the n.r.a. stance and they took a softer position. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say if there were background checks in major states would that force the legislation at the federal level? >> not necessarily. it's interesting. the university background checks it's the sweet spot about what's politically possible in this environment right now. and we're seeing even, you know, new groups start, americans for responsible solutions. and their main focus are the background checks. , both in state house and on the federal level. gwen: let's go to colorado which had some action this week. what did they do? >> here you have a state that's a western state, conservative, independent, purple state. they passed four bills in the house. and these bills for, universal background checks, assault weapon ban, high capacity magazine limits, all these national level issues. these bills goes to th

the n.r.a. school shield program fully implemented schoolchildren will walk on to campus past rows of armed security guards at first the big men in body armor with powerful something automatic assault rifles might be a little frightening to kindergartners first and second graders but eventually the kids are going to get used to these bushmaster toting sentinels understanding that this posse of guards is the first line of defense keeping them safe while they learn their a.b.c.'s case arizona sheriff joe arpaio is armed posse because a few members actually have criminal backgrounds to be extra kenyan their insight into how the criminal mind works and how to stop potential mass shooters inside the school faculty with locks on their belts rushed kids along to first period before the morning bell rings first graders don't want to be late to first period is the new law requires them to take one training classes. school begins in their teacher also armed with a gun as is our custom made tiny shooters to

>>chris: the basic argument the n.r.a. makes, they say, and the supreme court has upheld, there is a constitutional right to bear arms and they say government doesn't have the right to say what kind of gun, how big a magazine, according to the n.r.a. that is tyranny. >>guest: i don't agree. i do agree that every american has the right to own a firearm to protect himself, to protect his family, to protect his property. we are both gun owners. i don't think you will find a person that is a stronger supporter of the second amendment than me. i defended the second amendment with my life over iraq and kuwait. in is not about the 2nd amendment this is about public safety. we have 20 first graders die in class because we do not have sufficient gun violence legislation in the country. in 1934, we band automatic weapons. i would argue that the semi-automatic assault weapon with a high capacity magazine is too dangerous to be on the street where criminals, terrorists, and the mentally ill can get them. >>chris: now, the political rea

the rest, the n.r.a. is too strong. chris: and when we talk about if he gets something done it's this year. the time is now. >> the most likely thing is background checks on gun control. there is a lesson here out of new york. gomp cuomo's approval numbers have fallen by double digities it's going to be whether the 90% of the people that actually want the checks will stand up and make sure that they don't give our local congressman a really hard time -- chris: katty had a good point coming in here. there are a few places, i was think, that you are safe on gun control, california and the new york, but you're right, cuomo's numbers have crumbled. >> if you talk to them, the price is very, very high and the measures they're talking about, they're saying that it won't do enough. it won't stop gun violence -- chris: even joe biden said this week you're not going to do much but it's something. let's check the numbers here the can probe beat the n.r.a., a blunt question, by take the issue to the people? half the meter, six say

the belief the n.r.a. is the second amendment has to give american citizens the firepower to fight back against you against our government that's not so how do you conduct your business in enforcing the law and not knowing what is behind that door i find it a bit scary creepy and simply just not based on logic. well logic and the n.r.a. never got along so this is the n.r.a. his latest strategy defeat all gun control measures by scaring the hell out of america as my cabin tonio attorney and host of ring of fire radio mike welcome back . i'm great is wayne la pierre a raving lunatic or is this guy crazy like a fox not at all this is been focused to death look fear in america is a powerful moving force tom visions of smaller even massive apocalyptic events help listeners become irrational it makes them stupid to the point that it becomes easy and maybe even justified to even for a reason we educated americans to stand behind the senseless slaughter of our children in schools because that's that's the end of th

if we listen away in la pierre and the n.r.a. nd the rest of the gun nuts on the far right about how to make our schools safer from gun violence and actually pass legislation they've supported that a typical school day would look something like this to begin with all those gun free zone signs be taken down there replaced with signs the read gun friendly zone the simple change immediately alerts would be suicidal maniacs that this is their place the n.r.a. school shield program fully implemented school children will walk on to campus past rows of armed security guards. at first the big men in body armor with powerful some of the automatic assault rifles might be a little frightening to kindergartners first and second graders but eventually the kids are going to get used to these bushmaster toting sentinels understanding that this posse of guards is the first line of defense keeping them safe while they learn their a.b.c.'s case arizona sheriff joe arpaio is armed posse because a few members actually have criminal backgrounds to be

again, sponsored by the n.r.a. it set a high burden of proof to prosecute violations of federal gun laws. it limited a.t.f. inspections to one a year. once a year. and weaken the penalty. it allowed unlicensed individuals to sell their firearms as a hobby, avoiding meaningful regulations and leading to an increase in gun shows. so what does that mean when you have to establish a standard that is so high that you end up not revoking any firearm dealers license? well, willfully, not knowingly, but willfully violating gun safety laws as a standard now on the books. extraordinarily high standard. and the loopholes that were created allowed for dealers to hand off their businesses even when they had these horrendous violations to relatives or to convert their inventory of guns into a, quote, personal collection which they then could sell because it was now a hobby without doing background checks. so let me give you one example. the example is sandy adams -- excuse me -- sandy abrams. he was a member of the n.r.a. board o

number their organization america are more extreme than the n.r.a. and that's extreme the truth of the matter is you progress it was once again like to make some financial explanation as the excuse for people's behavior it's possible that people take a rest it was not it was always about the money no if people wanted me to debate about self interest in life and self-interest that's the god's ideal that we are always looking at the dollar but the point here it is the point you are going to malign your entire group of people all the conservatives all want to do this all the conservatives want to do that shot at a car well here's the thing what this all comes down to eventually i mean i've been to hundreds of gun shows i've been going to them since i was a baby with my father and you know the big problem is that when we talk about the gun show loophole it makes people think that it's a loophole that only exists at gun shows it's actually private sales is also a big issue it doesn't have to happen and i'll show you that on your right so. what the whole ar

number of other organizations america are more extreme than the n.r.a. and that's extreme the truth of the matter is that you progress it was once again like to make some financial explanation as the excuse for people's behavior it's possible that people take a rest of the what it was always about the money no it's people want to get out of a debate about self interest in life and self interest that the market is ideal that we are always looking at the dollar but the point of it is the point you are going to malign your entire group of people all the conservatives all want to do this all the conservatives want to do that it was shot at a car well here's the thing what this all comes down to eventually i mean i've been to hundreds of gun shows i've been going to them since i was a baby with my father and you know the big problem is that when we talk about the gun show loophole it makes people think that it's a loophole that only exists at gun shows it's actually private sales is also a big issue it doesn't have to happen if i show you it on your right so.

just goes to show how deluded the n.r.a. is a view that tragedy in connecticut as a national turning point in our disco. over gun control it simply is something like the common cold which. eventually goes away. i don't think it's going to be the case and now is the time to act on gun control because if we don't yet ari will continue spending millions of dollars to keep guns on our streets threatening the lives of americans everywhere raising the profits of the gun industry and that is very very quickly. coming up it's time for the mainstream media to wake up and start telling the truth to the american people about the demise of the u.s. postal service i'll help them do that inside story to. download the official publication to you so choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorite. if you're away from your television just doesn't work so now with your mobile device you can watch on t.v. anytime anywhere. sometimes you know what you know and sometimes you know what you don't know and sometimes it's a virus and thea

the n.r.a. obviously powerful because it's got the music and our liberties and bah, bah, bah in comparison to an online-- but the background check issue, marjorie, has 90% support among the american people. so, i don't know that they need as many bells and whistles to persuade people. nonetheless, they need to persuade lawmakers or it's not going to happen. >> right, and i think what this ad does and what's dangerous about the n.r.a. ad, it sort of remind me of an epic movie trailer for a war film. the thing is, it's not a war and what we need to do and doing a disservice is creating this as a bipartisan issue. 90% of americans support the idea of doing background checks on people who are gun owners what the debate has gun, they're trying to take our guns away or we want to keep our guns and the reality is, that's not the debate at all. it's about coming up with responsible policies to allow people to still go hunting and allow people to have guns to do so and that there aren't people mentally il

wells but the n.r.a. speaking at the n.r.a. is wisconsin state convention this weekend bob welch a lobbyist for that organization so that the n.r.a. will wait until the quote connecticut effect has subsided to continue to push to block any and all reforms of gun control well she went on to say that quote we have a strong agenda coming up for next year but of course a lot of that's going to be delayed as the connecticut effect has to go through the process it's just goes to show how deluded the n.r.a. is a view that tragedy in connecticut is a national turning point in our discussion over gun control it simply is something like the common cold which comes on and eventually goes away. i don't think it's going to be the case and now is the time to act on gun control because if we don't the n.r.a. will continue spending millions of dollars to keep guns on our streets threatening the lives of americans everywhere raising the profits of the gun industry and that is very very. coming up it's time for the mainstream media to wake up an

speed of guns the n.r.a. is giddy today thinking it has the smoking gun pun intended it needs to defeat any new gun regulations the organization says it has obtained a justice department memo that suggests the only way for gun control to be a factor of is through seizing firearms the memo written by a d.o.j. researcher points out that banning the future sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines would only have a limited impact because of the massive number of guns that are already in circulation or as the white house has repeatedly said that they have no plans to confiscate guns and according to the a.p. a justice department official described the leaked memo as an unfinished review of gun violence and that it does not represent the administration's policy on gun control but the n.r.a. doesn't care and they've already used this memo to cut a new ad against gun safety policies. let's look at what obama's own experts have to say this internal justice department memo says quote an assault weapons ban ha

just goes to show how deluded the n.r.a. is a view that tragedy in connecticut as a national turning point in our discussion over gun control it simply is something like the common cold which comes on and eventually goes away. i don't think it's going to be the case and now is the time to act on gun control because if we don't the n.r.a. will continue spending millions of dollars to keep guns on our streets threatening the lives of americans everywhere raising the profits of the gun industry and that is very very ugly. coming up it's time for the mainstream media to wake up and start telling the truth to the american people about the demise of the u.s. postal service i'll help them do that in tonight's debate. let me let me i want to know we're going to let me ask you a question from. here on this network is what we have in the bank we have our knives out. believe this right it's a bad thing never get here in this great way of being i don't even talk about the name and. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so f

number and their organizing for america are more extreme than the n.r.a. and that's extreme the truth of the matter is that you progress it was once again like to make some financial explanation as the excuse for people's behavior it's possible that people take a radical as though it was always about the money no if people want me to they don't know about self interest in life and self interest that the market is ideal that we are always looking at the dollar but the point of it is the point you are going to malign in your entire group of people all the conservatives all want to do this all the conservatives want to do that shot at a car well here's the thing what this all comes down to eventually i mean i've been to hundreds of gun shows i've been going to them since i was a baby with my father and you know the big problem is that when we talk about the gun show loophole it makes people think that it's a loophole that only exists at gun shows it's actually private sales is also a big issue it doesn't have to happen and i'll show you that on your right so.

enemy's list that the n.r.a. has developed. lots of organizations and people's names on it. we have highlighted a few here. the american association of retired persons is on their enemies list. you've got to be kidding. hallmark cards. i had to look long and hard to find out why hallmark cards would be on the enemies list for the national rifle association. and i guess 20 years ago, they contributed to an initiative to try and prevent a mandatory conceal and carry in a state. that put them on the enemies list. the ywca. the young women's christian association. the anti-defamation league. and many other jewish organizations, i might add. the league of women voters. the organization promoting all of the smart voting that goes on in this country, all the opportunities for all of us to be able to access our legislators. and then the american federation of teachers, a national education association. these people, these organizations, can't all be wrong. but the n.r.a. has put them on their enemies list. let me give you some other nam

the n.r.a. sportsman channel. >> there's a sportsman channel? stephanie: tommy in columbus said i don't give a crap what you want to say. if you can't change after newtown, sending out deadly rounds at 3,200 feet per second and was designed to give the fire power of five men -- thank you. and some other expletive. >> the guy wanted white ribbons distributed for the gun owners who are being wrongly blamed. they're the real victims. stephanie: yes who can't agree on that? stephanie: the right to own an arsenal because you're ashamed of your pinky. who received the right of little kids to be shot in the. stephanie: they're jealous that they're not hung like that dog that won the westminster show. the ba in a if a came from somewhere. >> oh, my god! stephanie: the n.r.a. by the way. >> she's do dogs in ways we didn't suspect. stephanie: the n.r.a. responded to the connecticut effect cob troves, the guy caught on tape saying wait until the connect coat effect is over. n.r.a. lobbyist bob welch said th

. >> one of the big questions is whether the n.r.a. is going to prevail in its opposition to any new gun control including universal background checks. there was some hint there might be a bipartisan compromise in the works? >> one of the things that the white house is talking about more privately is that their ambitions or expectations realistically are for universal background checks as a legislative achievement this year than the passage of a strong assault weapons ban or restrictions on high capacity ammunition. that's not necessarily their concession to the n.r.a. it's a concession to the regional issues, where public opinion is, and what might be more doable. privately, also, it's important to remember, the president is talking to groups, this base of people who brought him a second term that immigration reform is his number one legislative priority. he wants to say i'm going to continue to go out there and talk about gun violence and we see that he is going to continue to do events to talk about that, but privately, the discussio

you wonder to yourself, is the all-powerful n.r.a. taking this lying down or is there a pushack. >> there's a push-back. they say that their members and the broader public don't support these efforts to tighten gun control efforts. you're seeing them spending more money in their own congressional races. with mark kelly they're going to spend a lot of cash in the upcoming 2014 election with house democrats trying to win back control of that chamber. the n.r.a. plans to get involved here. >> ifill: is it too soon to say that this is going to be a major issue on a lot of state agendas this year? >> not at all. i was just looking at numbers from state track. there were 2,319 bills introduced just this year. >> ifill: how many? 2,319 bills introduced already. 132 signed relating to guns in general. >> ifill: since january. yes. you're seeing legislatures take on this issue whether it's for it or against it. of course the national debate going. everybody wants to get a piece of that at all. >> ifill: we'll be watching that national debate, o

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