it was done by the n.s.c. a piece of it was sorted out later, was the overall structure of the army. but i am right in saying the reserve work was committed -- commissioned by the n.s.c., and the results of that and the future structure of reserves versus regulars was discussed by .s.c. before announcement. have i got that right? i think if you're saying, look, you should have done the thing in one go, sometimes these things take a few iterations to get absolutely right. >> probably impossible. >> thank you. prime minister, still on security but changing the emphasis somewhat, risk of -- and public perception. mention has been made of flooding. if you ask lots of people they would say flooding. when we had incidents -- i'm wondering to what extent your strategy, which you outlined all the economic benefits, which we all would agree with, who is responsible for engaging the public so their perception of risk is not just a knee jerk reaction to the latest problem? and that when somebody challenges what the govern