ramtha stuff. the star, with the red and the blue, could you explain that? and the nameamtha, as, you know, definitely, like students of the ram, and students of the ramtha. >> i don't know if we have time for all that. >> how about we take on ramtha, and then later we can put in the study guide what the various symbols mean. so how about just the name itself? >> okay. well, the name ramtha is a name that he had from his lifetime, which he says he never died, that he ascended in his lifetime. after 63 years of a great march that conquered two-thirds of another world - he was a warrior, and a brutal warrior at the time. through a sword, through a betrayal, he had a sword thrust in his back, and pulled himself together with blood coming down. they were scared of them - they thought he was a mortal then. but actually, he wasn't - he took seven years to recuperate, on a rock, and becoming one with nature. in that time, he learned many of the secrets of the universe, and ascended in that lifetime. he's known as ramtha - the ram - and that is something that is actually mythic,